Teixeira to the Yankees
8 years 180 million. This is outrageous! Sabathia, Burnett, and Tex to go along with a team that already has A Rod, Jeter, Rivera, Giambi, Damon, and Matsui among others.
MLB seriously has to look at a salary cap
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I agree
but it won’t happen. The MLBPA is the most powerful union in sports. That’s the reason we’ll never have a uniform set of rules between the two leagues (which is a severe disadvantage to the NL) and that’s the reason we’ll never have a salary cap.
That being said, the Yankees have to win the world series this year. No doubt now they are the favorite with a lineup that will include A-Rod, Teixeira, and Jeter and the three biggest pitcher contracts in the AL.
by was385 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:12 PM EST
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is that like ridiculous
to such a degree that it makes you mad enough to be red in the face?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Dec 23, 2025 6:31 PM EST
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No...
more of a pink. : ) But it really is. The Yankees are buying players to make themselves competitive. I can’t wait until they make it to the World Series and lose to the Mets.
by joegonzo on
Dec 23, 2025 11:08 PM EST
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Giambi...
is a free agent. And I don’t think Damon or Matsui actually cause pitchers to lose sleep at night.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Dec 23, 2025 4:17 PM EST
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Damon and Matsui
Are obviously past their prime, I was pointing out that they both make enormous sums of money along with their teammates.
by thefordhamflash on
Dec 23, 2025 4:19 PM EST
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Yankees still a 3rd place club
1) No one has talked about this yet, but the Yankees have a very poor bullpen outside of Rivera and he could fall apart next with his elbow. Joba will be a starter, Yankees will have to trade for some power arms.
2) Team defense, outside of Tex, who do they have that is very good. Jeter is the worst defensive SS in the majors, Cano was below average, A-Rod could have throwing troubles again, and the outfield defense will be the worst in the majors. You have an aging Damon in center, Matsui/Swisher in left, and Nady in right.
This team will be a repeat of the 2006 Whitesox, all offense but starting pitching will suffer from a poor bullpen and defense.
Yankees in 2009 90-62 3rd place.
by Bravesin07 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:24 PM EST
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Hrm..
1) The bullpen isn’t poor. The lone upshot of the youth movement has been that the Yankees have found very solid arms for their relief corps. Edwar, Bruney, Veras, Albadejo, Sanchez, and Robertson are all good young talents, and there are more viable arms in the minors.
2) Team defense :
C - Posada: Who knows? But I wouldn’t bet on him being even passable. There’s a chance he won’t be viable at the position.
1B - Teixeira: GG
2B - Cano: Very good in 06-07, I’m assuming a reversion to form
SS - Jeter: This has been discussed ad nauseum
3B - ARod: A bit below average
LF - Damon: Very good.
CF - Melky/Gardner: Very good for Melky, good for Gardner
RF - Swisher: Alright.
95-67 or better is my guess. Presumptive favorites in the East, but in a division that tough, it may not be enough.
by GuyinNY on
Dec 23, 2025 4:37 PM EST
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Nady and Posada...
I have a feeling Posada might be spending quite a bit of time in the DH spot, and being the 2nd (or 3rd) string catcher, with the Yankees using someone else as a starter. Also I was thinking the OF would look something like Damon/Swisher/Nady with Melky either being a 4th OF or used to acquire a catcher.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Dec 23, 2025 4:40 PM EST
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gonna be a lot of balls in the gaps with that outfield
by Bravesin07 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:41 PM EST
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Haven't looked at stats...
but by sight, Damon still has plenty of range for LF, it’s just his arm that is a noodle. Swisher has always been a good defensive OF, and I haven’t seen Nady much but I always thought he was average.
Now, you see me “defending” the Yankees. I feel so dirty. I need a shower.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Dec 23, 2025 4:44 PM EST
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Swisher
is above average in a corner, but he doesn’t have good range in CF. If he’s playing there everyday, the defense will not be good.
"So's your mom"-David Sloane
by gatling on
Dec 23, 2025 5:00 PM EST
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But Swisher's bad OF defense
Is nowhere near as bad as Giambi’s 1B defense. They are getting a massive 1B defense upgrade. And you can always push Swisher to a corner and pick up some D by putting Melky in CF every once in a while (especially to keep Nady from facing righties or Damon from facing lefties). Overall, it makes the team much better.
I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin
by Wonko on
Dec 23, 2025 6:03 PM EST
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Sure
I guess I should have put “OF defense” to avoid confusion, but since we were only talking about OF defense in those last three posts, I figured it was implied. Boxkutter was talking about an OF of Damon/Swisher/Nady from LF to RF, which wouldn’t be a good defensive OF.
"So's your mom"-David Sloane
by gatling on
Dec 23, 2025 6:57 PM EST
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Girardi
uses comments that would lead one to believe that Swisher won’t play CF. Melky, Gardner (?) or maybe they’ll sign someone else.
by Lovejoy on
Dec 24, 2025 12:41 AM EST
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Makes sense
Swisher isn’t a good option in CF. The problem is, now you’ve got Matsui/Damon/Swisher/Nady and possibly Posada fighting for AB’s at LF/RF/DH. There needs to be a trade somewhere, too much of a logjam by adding Tex to the mix. Someone has to go.
"So's your mom"-David Sloane
by gatling on
Dec 24, 2025 1:08 AM EST
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Damon has no arm.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Dec 23, 2025 4:51 PM EST
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Jeter...
as much as I am not a fan on his, he is not the worst defensive SS in the majors. For one, HanRam is probably the worst. Jeter haas a bad reputation among fans as an awful defender, but the fact of the matter is that he has great range to the 3B side, but his range to the 2B side leaves a lot to be desired.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Dec 23, 2025 4:30 PM EST
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Which one?
Also, scouting reports (which are usually at least somewhat favorable to Jeter) should be included since metrics remain imprecise.
UZR has Jeter at -.4 and Hanley at -1. Point for Jeter.
by GuyinNY on
Dec 23, 2025 4:51 PM EST
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The scouting reports and the numbers both say Hanley improved by leaps and bounds this year.
He’s always had the tools, just wasn’t polished at the position. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was an above-average defender.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on
Dec 23, 2025 5:32 PM EST
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Uh..
Defensive metrics, especially UZR, fluctuate wildly from year to year. If you want to only use a single year’s worth of UZR to make your point, then yes 2008 was Jeter’s best defensive year since 2002.
To properly use UZR, make sure you’re taking into account at least three year’s worth of data. In which case you’ve got -5.2, -20, and then -0.5.
Defensively speaking, Jeter sits somewhere around -5 < x < -15 as a shorstop. While that still makes him one of the better defensive players in baseball (UZR is adjusted for position), it makes him a very below average short stop.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on
Dec 23, 2025 6:37 PM EST
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Bullpen - Completely Untrue
The 2008 Yankees bullpen had the 7th best ERA in baseball and the 5th best in the AL. Rivera has never shown any sign of injury trouble the last few years and the same baseless comment can be said about any pitcher in baseball.
Rivera, Marte, Coke, Bruney, Alabaladejo, Ramirez, Veras, Robertson, Melancon, Giese. That looks like one of the best bullpens.
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:45 PM EST
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And
if they resign Pettite they might put Joba back into the pen.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Dec 23, 2025 6:49 PM EST
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No
The Yankees have basically said a million times that Joba is a starter. That makes zero sense.
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on
Dec 23, 2025 10:50 PM EST
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3rd place?
get that crap out of here
by IHateMitchMustain on
Dec 23, 2025 11:04 PM EST
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Hey
third place in the AL East in 2009 could mean 93 wins! Some really good team IS going to be left out of the playoffs… and if the Yanks underperform their pyth by 4 games it could easily be them - and underperforming your pyth by 4 games aint exactly hard to do.
by alskor on
Dec 24, 2025 1:09 AM EST
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A better way of looking at it...
The Yankees now have the 4 highest total value contracts in all of baseball on their team with Arod, Jeter, Tex, and Sabbathia all ahead of 5th place Miguel Cabrera.
by nixa37 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:26 PM EST
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Ha!
The Yanks stopped winning championships when they decided to try and buy winners rather than groom them. Let them spend all the money they want; in the end, they’ll pay much more for what those players have already done than for what they’ll do in pinstripes. Free agents should be complimentary players, not the backbone of your franchise. They’re primed for deep playoff runs for the next three years or so, but then they’ll have more than any other team spends on their entire payroll tied up in dubious contracts. Honestly, they’re probably better than the Red Sox and worse than the Rays, but I could see them missing the playoffs all together, too.
Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/
by ejruiz on
Dec 23, 2025 4:30 PM EST
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look at the '96 yankees
They don’t even look like a great team, really. 92 wins. In ‘98, which was a great team, sure, they had home grown players. Guys they could afford to keep. But they also had David Wells, signed as a free agent, El Duque they paid for, Irabu, Cone they got from the Jays for 3 minor leaguers, but they could keep him on because they could pay him, etc. Not like they didn’t throw money at people back then, and I don’t think throwing money at A-Rod hurts them. Their home grown players weren’t exactly lights out last year, Melky, Cano, Brett Gardner, Hughes, Kennedy…Me, I’d rather have A-Rod than Brosius or Boggs at the end of his career, or Cano rather than Mariano Duncan or Knoblauch, guys from their championship teams.
Long and the short, it is too simple to say they groomed them then, they try to buy winning now. They always tried to buy it, and the still try to groom.
by wobatus on
Dec 23, 2025 6:01 PM EST
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Everyone is forgetting...
their payroll is still likely going to be lower in 2009 than it was in 2008. They had a lot of large contracts falling off which left them plenty of cash to spend. Giambi, Pavano, Abreu, Pettite, Pudge, and who knows who else I am forgetting. The Yankes had 88.5 million falling off, the combined yearly totals of the three big contracts so far is just a little over 60 million. They could reasonably sign another big name free agent and still have a lower yearly average salary.
Now, that doesn’t mean that nothing should be done. But like someone above said, the MLBPA is the most powerful union in all of sports. Donald Fehr is the most powerful person in baseball. Something does need to be done to change the way that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. But the rich are not the only ones to blame, the poor are too. Teams that spend less on player salaries than they get with revenue sharing are just as at fault.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Dec 23, 2025 4:36 PM EST
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you forgot
Moose. He was making a big chunk of change.
The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.
by mckeeno on
Dec 23, 2025 4:54 PM EST
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Thanks...
I knew I was forgetting someone.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Dec 23, 2025 5:03 PM EST
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You're forgetting that their payroll is increasing
outside of the coming and goings of free agents.
by Lovejoy on
Dec 24, 2025 12:45 AM EST
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A-Rod will never win a title
Football-Romo-A-Rod of Football
Basketball-McGrady
Baseball-A-Rod
3 of the bigger names in sports and they will never win a title.
by Bravesin07 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:40 PM EST
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uhh...if you're going to compare Arod to someone...
for his lack of winning, which is stupid in the first place…at least make good comparisons….Dan Marino and Karl Malone would work….Lets not compare him to decent NFL and NBA players
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Dec 23, 2025 7:00 PM EST
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And he never won a title.
If you’re going to set up goofy, team-oriented, cross-sport criteria, you should at least be consistent about it.
by aap212 on
Dec 23, 2025 7:49 PM EST
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Why?
The Yankees lowered their payroll this off-season and every other team had a chance, they were just too cheap.
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on
Dec 23, 2025 4:41 PM EST
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YESSSS!!!!!
I’m actually loving what Cashman did this offseason. CC and Tex were two must gets and he went out and got them. I think they overpaid for Burnett (because of his injury history), but if he can stay healthy, even that was a great deal.
In past years they gave a shitload of money to above average players (Pavano, Damon, Abreu) and that is why they were struggling with the high payroll. If you are going to spend big bucks, at least pay guys that are stars.
Now, on to Manny….
by nyy601 on
Dec 23, 2025 5:05 PM EST
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Being from Vallejo
which is C.C.‘s home town i am pulling for him, but he will be exposed in the A.L. east. The patience of the Sox and Rays will expose C.C.’s control problems. Look at his 2 starts int he play offs against the Red Sox. His numbers will be good, just not as good as people think. Tex is the only one that scares me. Burnett is a strike out machine, but also has control problems. his arm should fall off somewhere around the end of June.
by jbg3004 on
Dec 23, 2025 5:31 PM EST
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Actually?
You’re “actually” loving it? You’re a Yankees fan! Who the hell said you wouldn’t!?
This is insane. There NEEDS to be a salary cap.
by Lt Melmo on
Dec 23, 2025 7:36 PM EST
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I meant
for the first time I am actually loving the choices Cashman is making.
A no their doesn need to be a cap. Only a non Yankee fan would say that :)
by nyy601 on
Dec 23, 2025 10:36 PM EST
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shut up
the salary cap is the worst thing to ever happen to sports, we don’t want equality, we want every team to have a truly EQUAL chance to make decisions such as spending money the way they want, we don’t need to help poorly run teams and those who don’t like spending money to make their fans happy
by IHateMitchMustain on
Dec 23, 2025 11:07 PM EST
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So you propose completely changing the current system. When you speak of teams’ money, it is often a direct result of taxpayer subsidies, like the Yankees.
by Lovejoy on
Dec 24, 2025 12:50 AM EST
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you are terrible
just bad
horrible
Who's world is it? It's yours.
by BlackOps on
Dec 24, 2025 2:54 AM EST
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No title no problem
As long as they keep losing in the first round of the playoffs I have no problem with all the money. I don’t know why the public does either. How many teams did the Yanks steal Tex from -4? (Sox, Angels, Nats, O’s)-3 of those having high payrolls to begin with. I think after 8 years of watching this, we see that money doesn’t necessarily = championships.
Stop quibbling.
by sagecoll on
Dec 23, 2025 5:24 PM EST
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You think it's unfair that they have Damon?
Teixeira’s the only decent contract among the three they signed.
by aap212 on
Dec 23, 2025 5:45 PM EST
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sabathia was a great contract...
they basically signed a front line pitcher for a market value 3 year contract….he’ll more than likely opt out when he’s able to like every player does and the yanks can then reevaluate his performance, health, etc…
every team if given the chance would love to sign front line pitchers to three year contracts…
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Dec 23, 2025 7:02 PM EST
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No way he opts out.
The chances of him getting a bigger contract than the six remaining years are very slim.
by aap212 on
Dec 23, 2025 7:15 PM EST
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You say that...
But Alex did the same thing and just re-upped with the Yankees.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on
Dec 23, 2025 8:31 PM EST
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in 3 years the economy will likely be better...
and baseball salary inflation will kick in and he’ll sign a bigger contract…or maybe he’ll decide he doesnt like NYC…or maybe he’ll win a couple titles and realize he wants to go back to cali, ,etc
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Dec 23, 2025 8:36 PM EST
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A-Rod never had any injuries and isn't a pitcher
At best, one of those two things will be true of Sabathia in three years. His contract wasn’t hurt by the economy. It’s the guys lower on the totem pole who are hurt.
by aap212 on
Dec 23, 2025 9:16 PM EST
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uhh...sabathia has had no history or injuries...
and he’ll be 31 when those 3 years are up…6 months younger than aj burnett…who just got 5 years, so theres nothing to say that he wont get 5 years at more money in 2011…i think its pretty likely
TPJ...you're dead to me
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Dec 24, 2025 8:30 AM EST
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This is why it is a bad signing for the Yankees and great for the Sox and RAys
Year Round Tm Opp WLser G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H ER BB SO
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2001 ALDS CLE SEA L 1 1 3.00 1 0 0 0 6 6 2 5 5
2007 ALDS CLE NYY W 1 1 5.40 1 0 0 0 5 4 3 6 5
ALCS CLE BOS L 2 2 10.45 0 2 0 0 10.1 17 12 7 9
2008 NLDS MIL PHI L 1 1 12.27 0 1 0 0 3.2 6 5 4 5
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3 Lg Div Series 1-2 3 3 6.14 2 1 0 0 14.2 16 10 15 15
4 Postseason Ser 1-3 5 5 7.92 2 3 0 0 25 33 22 22 24
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HIs control has a lot to be desired
by jbg3004 on
Dec 23, 2025 7:38 PM EST
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The postseason performance problems are over-stated
If you work a starter into the ground and are surprised when he doesn’t have his best stuff in the playoffs, you can’t blame the pitcher for not being a robot.
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Dec 23, 2025 7:50 PM EST
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how about these numbers
I Split G GS GF W L S CG SHO IP ERA H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP
May 6 6 0 2 3 0 2 1 44.1 2.44 41 12 12 4 8 0 41 1
June 5 5 0 3 1 0 1 1 38 1.89 29 9 8 1 7 0 44 1
July 6 6 0 4 0 0 3 1 47.2 2.27 36 15 12 4 12 0 39 2
August 6 6 0 5 0 0 3 2 48.1 1.12 40 7 6 2 8 0 51 0
Sept/Oct 6 6 0 2 2 0 1 0 42.2 2.11 37 14 10 2 7 0 43 2
Who's world is it? It's yours.
by BlackOps on
Dec 24, 2025 2:56 AM EST
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Coup for the Yanks
Sabathia and Burnett werent going to help as much as people assumed… but run scoring was a problem, as was infield defense. Tex was always the perfect fit and should have been their #1 priority. This one scares me. The Sox and Rays are still about as good, though.
by alskor on
Dec 23, 2025 6:31 PM EST
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+1
I’d say this puts them behind the Rays in the division, but not by much.
I’d say the following for the East next year
Rays: 99 wins
Yankees: 98 wins
Boston: 95 wins
by demondeaconsbaseball on
Dec 23, 2025 9:37 PM EST
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-1
Flip the Rays and Sox
www.thebaseballuniverse.blogspot.com
by prestonb1291 on
Dec 23, 2025 9:53 PM EST
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Yeah...
I would say the Rays are easily #3.
Yankees: 95 wins (dont hold me to these! just eyeballed it!)
Sox: 94 wins
Rays 90 wins
The Rays outperformed their pyth last year by a decent amount. All things being equal the Sox win that division 75% of the time. The Rays are a really good ball club, but they arent quite on the level of the Sox or Yanks. It wouldnt be a shock to see them finish 1st , by any means, but true talent wise they are not quite a half step behind. They would be the favorites in pretty much any other division in baseball, sadly… well, probably not NL East, too, but you see my point Im sure.
by alskor on
Dec 24, 2025 1:14 AM EST
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If you're predicting three teams to be separated by five games or less...
Then you’re really projecting a dead heat. You guys have them separated by less than margin of error. Who cares what order you have them in?
by aap212 on
Dec 24, 2025 1:25 AM EST
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Pretty much
Though if we continue too much with that logic, Tampa is really the same as a team projected for 85 wins - who would be roughly the same as a team I project for 80 wins…
Its just a fun little exercise to put numbers to them.
by alskor on
Dec 24, 2025 1:37 AM EST
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Good move by the Yankees
He was not a must sign but they got him to fill a void for a long time at a reasonable price.
Now please be smart and save your money. Trade Igawa for Marquis or something and let Hughes + Kennedy battle for that final spot.
by BLieve on
Dec 23, 2025 6:36 PM EST
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Man,
What happened to the Kei Igawa days? Jeter, Matsui, Damon, Posada, and Rivera will begin their tailspins (please).
by Colorado Fan on
Dec 23, 2025 9:58 PM EST
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hopefully
Founder of the Johnny Giavotella fan club.
by doublestix on
Dec 23, 2025 10:04 PM EST
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Sadly
another benefit of the Tex signing is that they have Nady/Swisher to backup any injuries… they look a lot better today than they did yesterday. Forget Rivera - he’s a freak and will never decline Im convinced. Posada, Matsui and Jeter may have already begun their “tailspins” - but they have a long way to fall… Who the hell knows with JD… he’s a weirdo.
by alskor on
Dec 24, 2025 1:16 AM EST
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The Yankees WILL win the World Series this year.
And, I hate the Yankees. They should sign Manny now and just sew the whole thing up for absolute certain to go with their new stadium.
by NLaloosh on
Dec 23, 2025 11:05 PM EST
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Always take the field
I’m not confident these moves make the Yankees the best team in baseball, and even if they are, how often does the best team in baseball win the world series?
by aap212 on
Dec 23, 2025 11:19 PM EST
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Shades of 2004
Before the 2004 season, the Yankees acquired A-Rod, SHeffield, Vasquez, and Brown, all coming off of outstanding 2003 campaigns.
We’ll see how it plays out.
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