New York Yankees Prospect Discussion
I'm working on the Giants now. The next team on the list is the New York Yankees, so here is a thread to discuss Bronx prospects.
I like Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero, and Brackman is certainly intriguing, but after that I see a lot of question marks. Who are the sleepers here?
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betances and heredia
dellin had a real nice second half, showing progress with his BB rate and racking up the K’s…..he should be ahead of brackman
heredia was one of the youngest guys in the SAL league and all the numbers checked out - 57% GB rate is especially promising….very under-rated right now
by Wheelhouse on Dec 23, 2025 7:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Pablo Zevallos on Dec 23, 2025 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't 52% avg in the SAL?
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by colintj on Dec 25, 2025 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zach McCallister
This kid just flat out gets results.
by PhillyPhanatic on Dec 23, 2025 8:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’m a huge McAllister fan. Love the fast/change, and a bit more improvement on the breaking ball and I could see a potential “2/3” type starter, if not better if he physically matures some more.q
by toonsterwu on Dec 23, 2025 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cynic's response
So did Tyler Clippard!
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by mckeeno on Dec 23, 2025 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McAllister
has much more stuff than Clippard
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by Pablo Zevallos on Dec 23, 2025 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Zach has a MUCH better fastball.
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by Dewey Finn on Dec 23, 2025 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eduardo Sosa
Good enough to warrant a $525K bonus, and backed it up in the DSL as a 17-year-old by hitting well (.315), showing a little pop despite a frame that he can grow into (27 XBH in 254 AB), showing that he can take a walk (34 BB) and stealing 30 bases. He’s listed at 5’11", 155 right now, and one assumes that he’ll grow another inch or two and add 20-30 lbs. Granted, it’s hard to know how this will all translate to the States, but he is from Venezuela, and I think those guys generally don’t have as many problems assimilating to the States as kids from the Dominican. He’s one of my favorite sleepers, regardless of organization.
And my assertion that kids from the Dominican have a harder time assimilating is just based on gut. I wonder how one would go about quantifying or qualifying that pulled-from-my-ass hypothesis….
by mac37203 on Dec 23, 2025 8:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
damon sublett
i know his numbers haven’t been the best but i think he has a chance to be an average mlb 2nd. Also, got to love Melancon and his hammer curve.
by dewallace on Dec 23, 2025 9:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sleeper
Ryan Pope. A C/C+ guy this year, but he’s supposed to have great mechanics, a pretty good fastball and a developing array of secondary pitches.
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by mckeeno on Dec 23, 2025 9:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Position player to pitcher converts
The Yanks have a couple of guys that failed as position players that are making nice progress now as pitchers, but since they’re old for their leagues they don’t get much notice.
Mike Dunn LHP - Spent 2008 in the FSL at 23 years old. Solid fastball and “plus” slider from a lefty. Lack of change may move him to the bullpen for 2009, but profiles as a solid MLB bullpen arm. Supposedly is a bulldog competitor, and he’s already on the 40 man roster.
Wilkins de la Rosa LHP - Spent most of 2008 as a 23 year old in the SAL, but was bumped up to the FSL for a short stint at the end of the season. He’s been praised for his mechanics, and has a mid 90s fastball, a very good changeup, and is working on a slider. Was moved to the rotation at Charleston midway through the season and things really came together — he’d been posting BB rates over 15% in the bullpen, but ratcheted that down to the 6% range from the rotation. Also on the 40 man roster.
Other arms to consider:
George Kontos - 3.65 FIP, 152 Ks, 134 hits allowed in 151 innings at AA as a 23 year old in 2008 (still needs to improve with walks though).
Christian Garcia - 3rd round pick in 2004, has always had the stuff/numbers, just can’t stay on the field due to injuries. Missed all of 2007 with shoulder problems, but had a very nice return to the FSL in a 50 inning stint last yar.
DJ Mitchell - 10th round 2008 draftee from Clemson. Athletic RHP only started pitching in 2006. Has a heavy sinking 90 MPH 2-seamer, 93 MPH 4-seamer, average changeup and slurve. No pro data yet, but I really like him as a sleeper if the Yanks staff can get his offspeed stuff up a tick.
Manny Banuelos - 5’10, 155 lbs 17 year old put up great numbers in a short stint the GCL in 2008. Low 90s fastball, and has solid command of his curve and change. I think he was simply “too good for his own good” against the hitters there, since I doubt most GCL batters are used to facing pitchers that can control their offspeed stuff like Banuelos can. I’d like to see the Yanks challenge him by sending him to Charleston in 2009.
by jibs on Dec 23, 2025 10:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like
Garcia, de la Rosa, and Kontos the best of those
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by Pablo Zevallos on Dec 23, 2025 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be curious about Garcia
He was an exciting arm to follow.
by toonsterwu on Dec 24, 2025 5:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brackman is a beast but so overrated. Jesus Montero is just incredible. Great swing from what I’ve seen on youtube and at the futures game this year
by sdhman11 on Dec 23, 2025 11:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yankees Prospects
My answer would be Heredia then McAllister. After that, not much else by way of talent in this farm. Here is my top 12 list:
1) Austin Jackson, B, Definitely their best prospect in the system…but I can’t go over a “B” for a guy with so little power and a guy that strikes out 20% of the time.
2) Kei Igawa, B-, Definitely not a “prospect” “per se”, but he has seen a surprising amount of time in the minor leagues so I’ll drop him in there. I still have hopes that he’ll perform at the MLB level…allthough I’m starting to have doubts as well.
3) Jairo Heredia, C+
4) Zach McAllister, C+
5) Jesus Montero, C+
6) Ian Kennedy, C+, Oh how the mighty have fallen.
7) Andrew Brackman, C+
8) Austin Romine, C+
9) Gerrit Cole, C+, Ooops! Well, this is where he WOULD have ended up!!
10) Ryan Pope, C+
11) Jeremy Bleich, C+
12) Abraham Almonte, C+
I’ll post with comments later on the rest of them. The family is pushing me out the door right now for “holiday activities”…
by Aslan on Dec 23, 2025 11:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow
Talk about standing out as a Yankees hater…
by sabernar on Dec 23, 2025 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Some of those are just … odd, to be nice.
I like their system. It’s not a top system, but I think it’s solid, middle of the road. A good collection of arms with some developing positional pieces. Give it another year and I think you’ll see some quality results from their decision to be a bit more patient than in year’s past with theirr prospects.
by toonsterwu on Dec 23, 2025 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
In comparing to the Mets (where I’ll agree on the 18-22 assessment of someone in their thread) the systems looks similar with two upper echelon prospects (Flores/F-Mart v. Jackson/Montero), with Brackman having better upside, but a similar grade to Niese because of his TJ history, and with a lot of strong arms that are lower in the system. After that, Yankees have a few more better upside guys in Romine/Betances. I’m not big on McAllister, so I don’t really see him as more of a filler, regardless of the numbers.
So, Yankees like 14-20 or so as a system.
by thudean on Dec 23, 2025 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget Melancon
Melancon has a LOT of upside as an 8th inning reliever with a transition to closer when Mariano retires. Not sure if that rates as a B, B- or C+, but he has a high ceiling as a reliever and I think a lot of people think he has a strong chance of reaching that level.
by sabernar on Dec 23, 2025 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joba
I thought the closer role was going to be handed to Joba in a season or two…? Unless he can show something amazing as a starter without blowing his shoulder or elbow out.
by Aslan on Dec 23, 2025 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
somebody please
break it down for my. . . what makes Austin Jackson an upper echelon prospect??? aside from an exceptional 67 game stint, his numbers are nothing special. Definitely not the numbers of a guy that will play in NY for several years to come.
by SoCalSoxFan on Dec 23, 2025 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good tools
Not great, amazing, blow the doors off tools, but good ones. I see him as a solid regular, maybe an upper echelon guy if all goes well. Still a fair bit of risk.
by number_twentyone on Dec 23, 2025 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but a B+? seems extremely high for a guy who’s tools haven’t translated into anything special outside of that half a season. There’s a lot of other guys out there w/ tools that have a better track record in the minors. . .
is he part of the traditional overhyping of a yankee prospect?
by SoCalSoxFan on Dec 24, 2025 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is he part of the traditional overhyping of a yankee prospect?
Probably, but his performance is pretty good, albeit not mind blowing. I think he’s overrated a little bit, but tools are a valid reason for doing so.
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tools!
His numbers are pretty good for a plus defensive CFer as well. Basically it comes down to tools and projection, though.
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CF
how many CF’s in the minors are bad defensively though, unless a guy is converted from another position. I don’t recall anyone ever saying this guy is a top ten prospect in CF, but his defense sucks and he has no range.
I haven’t seen much of him in person, but unless he has some pretty good pop in his bat that will translate to power I don’t see a B+ guy. Hell, he looks like Peter Bourjos, who i’ve seen a lot, who is basically WillyTaveras. . .
by SoCalSoxFan on Dec 24, 2025 1:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point
Alot of weight has been put into about 300 ABs of his were he looked really good. Supposedly they reworked his swing. Like I said, I argued strongly last year he was overrated. I still dont see that much ceiling for him, but his performance this year sold me on him as a decent chance at being a league average CFer. That’s a pretty good prospect.
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not really
You have to realize, Jackson is the only top 50 talent on that list. Even if you go AL only, Jackson is the only top 50 talent. Okay, Heredia, McAllister, and Montero might make a top 100 AL prospects list….but not a top 100 MLB list. I think some lists have Montero somwhere around 80-90 in the MLB, but without much else, I don’t see how you can start dolling out A-s and B+s to an organization that has historically not had a very deep farm system.
by Aslan on Dec 23, 2025 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Montero is on BA's Top 100 list. Just a hunch.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 23, 2025 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Montero is a much better prospect than Vilallona, for example
He has shown similar levels of power, and a much better eye, even if Montero doesn’t manage to stay at catcher. I also think he is a better prospect than Jackson, who will probably be a solid major leaguer but littler more, while Montero could be an All-Star.
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by OldProspects on Dec 24, 2025 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Montero could be a top 50 guy
I think it was John Manuel who said he was on his list, or maybe I’m thinking of Callis.
The Yankees admittedly don’t have a lot of talent at the top, they do have depth though.
by number_twentyone on Dec 23, 2025 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Montero
only a C+??? What are you basing these rankings on?
by PhillyPhanatic on Dec 23, 2025 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Montero should be higher
But I’m dead on with with the assessment of Jackson. He looks solid to me, but unspectacular. The solid CF defense, above average speed, and ability to take just enough extra walks make him look like he has a future in the big leagues, but the lack of power and middling contact skills suggest he might not be much more than average. I did a comp using Jackson in the comments of Dewey Finn’s top 99 list, take a look:
Player A, age 21, Eastern League batting 2008: . 285 / .354 / .419
K% 19.4, BB 9.5, LD 13%
Career MiLB batting totals: 284 / .355 / .410
26 HR 1696 ABs
Player B, age 19, Easter League batting 2008: .287 / .340 / .432
K% 19, BB 7, LD 19%
Career MiLB batting totals: 280 / .337 / .427 22 HR 929 AB
Player A: A-Jax
Player B: F-Mart (the other NY CF prospect)
Their contact rates are almost identical. They strikeout at the same clip and hit for the same batting averages. Jackson walks just a bit more, but Martinez is making harder contact and hitting with a bit more power. Otherwise, Jackson probably gets a defensive edge, although I’m pretty sure if the Mets had Johnny Damon instead of Carlos Beltran we’d be talking F-Mart as the Mets future in CF. Martinez gets hurt by his health. But Martinez is also two years younger and has been playing his entire career against more advanced competition, while Jackson was at an age appropriate-level and has been his whole career.
So as of now, they make a virtually identical amount of contact, the big difference is in the walks and the power. Even if you value OBP over power (which you probably should), I’d still rather have the 19 year old who’s already flashing some power over the 21 year old whose already flashing some plate discipline. The 19 year old has plenty of time to learn plate discipline as he continues to advance and develop, it hasn’t been pretty yet for F-Mart but it hasn’t been a major red flag either. Plus he’s still filling out and adding more power. The 21 year old may add a bit of strength and maybe a tweak to his swing yields a bit more power, but he’s probably a lot closer to his power ceiling than the 19 year old is to his batting-eye ceiling. Jackson’s speed and defense, which by my impression are both a touch better than Martinez, give him some extra points. But I still don’t see how if you agree with John’s B+ for F-Mart, you can make Jackson any more than a B.
by Mark Himmelstein on Dec 23, 2025 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Him, Stanton, and Heyward are WAY overrated.
by schmosterballs92 on Dec 24, 2025 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
montero
Montero and Romine have exactly the same numbers. So why does Montero rate superstar status and not Romine?
by Aslan on Dec 24, 2025 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Age
Montero is a year younger and is seen to have more upside.
by J-Gao on Dec 25, 2025 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez
I forgot Humberto Sanchez. I’d have him at the #3 spot with a B- and bump everyone else down one spot.
As for the reasoning;
1) Austin Jackson, B, Definitely their best prospect in the system…but I can’t go over a "B" for a guy with so little power and a guy that strikes out 20% of the time.
2) Kei Igawa, B-, Definitely not a "prospect" "per se", but he has seen a surprising amount of time in the minor leagues so I’ll drop him in there. I still have hopes that he’ll perform at the MLB level…allthough I’m starting to have doubts as well.
3) Humberto Sanchez, B-, Same as above.
4) Jairo Heredia, C+, Throws Ks impressively, but gets knocked around UN-impressively.
5) Zach McAllister, C+, So far his stats are solid. Low ERA, strikes people out, gets grounders. Just needs to start showing something at AA before getting too excited.
6) Jesus Montero, C+, Can hit .320 and showed some power last season. Again, I’d like to see what he can do at AA before getting too excited.
7) Ian Kennedy, C+, Oh how the mighty have fallen.
8) Andrew Brackman, C+, It’s early, but I think this one’s a bit too over-rated based on what he’s done so far.
9) Austin Romine, C+, I like him similar to Montero, same reasons. It’s very early on..but he’s looked good so far.
10) Gerrit Cole, C+, Ooops! Well, this is where he WOULD have ended up!!
11) Ryan Pope, C+, So far he looks alot like Heredia as far as stats go…I just don’t believe it’s a mirage with Pope. Same grade, but not the same ranking.
12) Jeremy Bleich, C+, Very simlar in stats as Brackman, but like Heredia vs. Pope, I don’t see Bleich pulling out of it.
Others (C+s); Abraham Almonte, Brett Gardner, Damon Sublett. And what do they all have in common? They have NO power and strike out like it’s fashionable.
by Aslan on Dec 23, 2025 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Top 20 & More
Jesus Montero (B+)
Austin Jackson (B+)
Dellin Betances (B)
Andrew Brackman (B)
Zach McAllister (B)
Austin Romine (B)
Mark Melancon (B-)
Alfredo Aceves (C+)
Jairo Heredia (C+)
Bradley Suttle (C+)
Jeremy Bleich (C+)
Phil Coke (C+)
Brett Gardner (C+)
Humberto Sanchez (C+)
Juan Miranda (C+)
Francisco Cervelli (C )
Brandon Laird (C )
Alan Horne (C )
George Kontos (C )
Pat Venditte (C )
Christian Garcia (C )
David Robertson (C )
Jonathan Albaladejo (C )
Jonathan Ortiz (C )
Eric Hacker (C )
Edwar Gonzalez (C )
Damon Sublett (C )
Ryan Pope (C )
Kelvin de Leon (C )
Yaikco Calderon (C )
Eduardo Sosa (C )
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by prestonb1291 on Dec 23, 2025 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Juan Miranda
Does he have any chance to win the 1b job?
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by mckeeno on Dec 23, 2025 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This question
was a lot more relevant when it was asked, but now just looks dumb.
The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.
by mckeeno on Dec 23, 2025 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks solid
at first glance, I buy the grades. Maybe I change my mind if I ponder it longer, but overall, nice job.
by toonsterwu on Dec 23, 2025 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No shot...
not any more with Mark Texeira signed.
by joegonzo on Dec 23, 2025 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
George Kontos
I’ve always like him and he has put up good numbers almost every year. I’ve also heard his stuff is slightly above average across the board. Can someone explain to me why he isn’t as highly touted a prospect? Is my information on him just inaccurate?
by thudean on Dec 23, 2025 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kontos
He’s already 25, so not much more upside.
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by prestonb1291 on Dec 23, 2025 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kontos turned 23 during the 2008 season
by jibs on Dec 23, 2025 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I’ve also heard his stuff is slightly above average across the board
I dont believe that is true. His stuff is averagish and he doesnt have any MLB out pitch, so he doesnt project well against higher level batters.
He’s also been old for his level most of the time.
He is a guy I always kept an eye on as a sleeper because he ends up with totally decent numbers at the end of each year… but its hard to see him doing much in MLB. I guess he could be a useful swingman/utility arm.
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone really believe
that any of these prospects will ever play for the Yankees? There is not a potential star among these players and the only two prospects that have shown the upside to stay in the system, Chamberlain and Hughes, appear to been rushed and have health issues. Hughes looks unlikely to even be in the ML rotation this year. It looks like the yankees will not risk using any systen player other than Chamberlain. The yankees are all about buying the best developed talent, either in FA or using these guys in trade.
by sdtribefan on Dec 23, 2025 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes there are potential stars
in fact, this list will have more boom or bust types than most
by number_twentyone on Dec 23, 2025 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that some of these will play for the Yankees
Namely, I think Austin Jackson will be given a shot in in CF in the near future. I think Melancon could be in their pen at some point in 2009, along with perhaps a guy like Sanchez.
Also, “potential star”? How is Jesus Montero not a potential star? Keyword being potential. Furthermore, Betances/Brackman have high end SP potential. There’s a lot of boom/bust guys in this list.
For all the talk about the Yankees buying talent or dealing for guys … they haven’t touched the farm. Yes, they’ll lose some picks for signing guys, but they haven’t moved guys with the, for lack of a better word, idiocy of the early part of this decade. Cashman’s kept most of his chips, for better or worse. They are trying.
by toonsterwu on Dec 23, 2025 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the very least, they should be able to stock the bullpen and 4/5 rotation spots for a few years
by jibs on Dec 23, 2025 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys, it isn't that they have no value.
It is they don’t have enough value to play for the Yankees or a place on the ML team. When the Yankees add Ramirez they will have 7-8 ML contracts for OFs. Several of these cannot be traded. If anyone is serious about Montero as a catcher, I cannot help their delusions. But if they think of him as a 1B/DH, then where is he going to play. Where is a pitcher to pitch with the long term contracts?
by sdtribefan on Dec 24, 2025 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably true for the position players
But they can always flip pitchers. Everyone needs pitching. Say Joba pitchers 180+ innings at < 3 ERA for two more years. They could get whatever they wanted for him and backfill him with someone else that is “ready”.
by ekh1210 on Dec 25, 2025 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, huh?
Arodys Vizcaino still hasn’t been named?
He’s a great sleeper in this system. BA put him 11th in the GCL this year, ahead of guys like Esmailyn Gonzalez, Issac Galloway, and Derrik Gibson. Vizcaino signed for 800k in 2007, and back then the only thing separating Jairo Heredia from him was his command. He has since took some nice steps in that category, keeping his BB% at 7% this year. All the reports I’ve seen regarding his fastball have been extremely positive. And, oh yeah, he just turned 18. This kid has huge upside.
Also, I’m very high on McAllister and Kontos. I see McAllister as a fringe top-100 spect (though he’d probably fit better around #125), while Kontos has been a nice sleeper for a couple years now.
by RedSoxFaithful on Dec 23, 2025 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I should have put Vizcaino alongside Banuelos in my earlier post. The big red flag for me was that I read somewhere that his FB sits in the high 80s rather than the “91-95 MPH” that was quoted when he first signed. Supposedly has a very nasty curve though, and he’s considered by some to have a higher ceiling than Heredia. Definitely an interesting sleeper to keep tabs on.
by jibs on Dec 23, 2025 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kontos has a silly slider
to go with a nice fastball, but I don’t know that he can work long-term as a starter.
by ekh1210 on Dec 25, 2025 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, Garcia and De La Rosa should be top ten
both are very risky (Garcia coming off TJ, De La Rosa converted from OF last year), but have very high ceilings.
IMO this system has a lot of depth, especially when it comes to starting and relief pitching. Obvious attrition at AA and a lack of top level hitters bring it down. The Charleston team was very good last year - those guys and the GCL team are the future the system.
My intuitive top 20 (not based off John’s scale):
1. Montero B+
2. Jackson B - like him, don’t love him. However, I do like him better than Andrew McCutchen.
3. Betances B - command came back in 2nd half last year.
4. Brackman B- - lottery ticket
5. Melancon B- - nearly finished product.
6. Garcia B- - high risk, high reward
7. McAllister B- - would be very good if he had an out pitch. Good innings eater for now.
8. Romine B-
9. Sanchez B-
10. DeLeon C+ - bonus baby
11. De La Rosa C+
12. Cervelli C+ - Overlooked because of Elliot Johnson taking him out last year.
13. Suttle C+ - Along with Sublett, one of a few hitters who could break out and give them a decent trading chip
14. Horne C+ - bleh, injuries.
15. Sosa C - Leadoff hitter type they signed for a decent bonus.
16. Angelini C - Bonus baby who will repeat Single-A.
17. Sublett C - Never heard from him last year after the injury.
18. Almonte C - Good tools, needs to repeat Single-A.
19. Whelan C - Good velo, command issues.
20. Cox - C - Could do better a year removed from TJ.
others: Phil Coke (needs more of a track record), Ramiro Pena (no bat, good glove), Colin Curtis, Kontos (just a reliever), Jairo Heredia (very overreated), Marcos Vechionacci (hey, he wasn’t terrible before getting hurt in 2008), Stephen Jackson, Laird, Bleich
by number_twentyone on Dec 23, 2025 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jackson & Cutch
In no way do I agree… Cutch gets on base more, walks more, K’s less, is a much better baserunner, and plays a much better CF than Jackson. Cutch had a better year at a higher level. If we’re talking power potential, maybe, but I don’t think McCutchen is devoid of power.
As a Yankee fan, I pray that Pittsburgh offers that trade straight up. Solves the CF problem for a decade.
by jc3 on Dec 23, 2025 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Jackson would stop being so streaky...
It would be a different discussion. As it is, though, McCutchen could lead and offense, and Jackson is likely in the bottom third of the order.
I do think that Jackson is a very good defensive CF, so I don’t see that one item as a big differentiator.
by ekh1210 on Dec 25, 2025 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Betances
Has the stuff to be a dominant starting pitcher.
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by Dewey Finn on Dec 23, 2025 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yep
I think that kid has some promise.
by sabernar on Dec 23, 2025 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Yankees even need prospects?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 23, 2025 6:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1) Matt Holliday, LF (A)
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 23, 2025 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It becomes an interesting experiment though, doesn't it?
Only one team in baseball right now has the financial resources to essentially continually build upon their team through free agency. As long as Hank is conjuring his inner Dad and Dean (Hal) keeps his mouth shut, we could see this very well happening.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 23, 2025 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
Other than maybe adding an OF next year, I do not see the Yankees adding any elite guys for a few years. Catcher is set (unless Posada can’t throw and Cervelli isn’t ready), 1B through 3B is set and CF MAY be set (if Gardner can have a .350 OBP he’s fine.) That leaves Swisher in left or right, with a corner spot and DH open, with Jackson possibly ready. So maybe they need to get one OF/DH type guy?
The SP should be set with CC, AJ, CMW, Joba, and some combo of 5th starters (Hughes, IPK, Aceves, Horne, etc.) The pen is good to go and Mo has shown no sign of regression at all.
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by hallofamer2000 on Dec 23, 2025 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
go team venture?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 25, 2025 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My little jab at the Steinbrenners.
When presented with the easy joke of turning Hank and Hal to Hank and Dean I just couldn’t resist. I do refer to them as the Venture Brothers, as well. Not sure who this makes Brock Samson, though.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 29, 2025 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
Derek Jeter
Mariano Rivera
Jorge Posada
Andy Pettitte
Robinson Cano
Chien-Ming Wang
Joba Chamberlian.
hmm, I’d say yes.
by RollingWave on Dec 24, 2025 5:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you missed my point.
The Yankees financial situation allows them to continually do what they do through free agency if necessary. Even if they don’t pick up big contract guys through that route, they tend to go and snag other people’s large contracted players (A-Rod, initially, Abreu, etc) through trades. Generally that does mean trading prospects, but the last few trades (Abreu, especially) have been less about prospects being sent back and more about New York taking on the entirety of a contract.
And even then, of the people you listed, only three are recent prospects. The others have all been around a long time and are seeing decline or near retirement without any reasonable replacements available in the next couple of years. As it stands right now, Rivera could be replaced internally, but Jeter, Pettitte, and Posada would be replaced with more free agents.
It’s not as if New York COULDN’T use more prospects. Their recent acquisitions of Sabathia and Burnett show an apparent lack of confidence in Huges or Kennedy and unless something weird happens, Garnder will be a 4th outfielder (if Melky is let go somehow). Their strongest use of farm help right now is the bullpen, which is common to most clubs.
My overall point is that with the overwhelming economic advantage they have over the rest of major league baseball, they could not need prospects to survive. I’m sure it wont happen. They like all good teams will find a home grown talent here or there to use, but it would be a worthwhile experiment in determining the overall viability of building a roster through free agency.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 25, 2025 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My List
I might have forgotten a guy or two though:
#. Name (Rating) - (Projected Opening Level)
1. Jesus Montero (B++) - (High-A)
2. Austin Jackson (B+) - (Triple-A)
3. Dellin Betances (B) - (High-A)
4. Mark Melancon (B) (Triple-A)- will get some heat for this I bet
5. Andrew Brackman (B) - (High A)- if the reports that he was hitting high-90s are true, I don’t see why not. He might take a little time with the control though.
5. Zach McAllister (B-/B) - (High-A)
6. Jairo Heredia (B-/B) - (High-A) - what he did for his age and level is just plain impressive
7. Austin Romine (B-) - (High-A) - hopefully Posada’s replacement
8. Brett Gardner (B-) - (MLB) Historically a slow starter at new levels; his combo of speed and walks could make him an excellent leadoff guy in the Yankee line-up; solid D also
9. Jeremy Bleich (B-) - (High-A)
10. Christian Garcia (C+/B-) - (Double-A)
11. Francisco Cervelli (C+/B-) - (Double-A)
Then the C+ guys:
David Robertson (Triple-A/MLB?), Jon Albaladejo (Triple-A/MLB), big fan, Wilkins de la Rosa (High-A), Brandon Laird (High-A), Bradley Suttle (High-A), Phil Coke (MLB), Kelvin de Leon (SS?), Alan Horne (Triple-A), Humberto Sanchez (Triple-A), George Kontos (Triple-A), Juan Miranda (Triple-A), Alfredo Aceves (MLB), Damon Sublett (High-A), Arodys Vizcaino (SS?)
Then the C guys: Justin Snyder (High-A), Eduardo Sosa (SS?), Carmen Angelini (Low-A), Kyle Higashioka (SS/Low-A), JB Cox (Triple-A), Abraham Almonte (Low-A), Kevin Whelan (Double-A), Anthony Claggett (Double-A), Ramiro Pena (Triple-A), Pat Venditte (High-A)
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on Dec 23, 2025 8:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
By the way
I cannot wait to follow Tampa’s battery next year…
SPs: Andrew Brackman, Jeremy Bleich, Jairo Heredia, Zach McAllister, Dellin Betances, Wilkins de la Rosa?
C: Austin Romine, Jesus Montero
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by hallofamer2000 on Dec 23, 2025 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa will be fun
As Suttle could also put up a nice year. I’d guess AA for De La Rosa.
by ekh1210 on Dec 24, 2025 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys I like
Chris Garcia, Jairo, Romine, Angelini, and Betances.
by Omar Little on Dec 23, 2025 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Venditte
The kid isn’t just a circus act, he’s pretty good with both arms.
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by prestonb1291 on Dec 23, 2025 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
disagree
90 mph as a righty, and he’s not viable from the other side. Lots of players pitch well at shortseason A ball and flame out. Good story, would be stunned if he even makes it to AA.
by number_twentyone on Dec 23, 2025 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what's Montero's set position.....ahhhh
thats why I only give him a B….
A. Brackman no higher than B-
I do like Humberto Sanchez as bit of a sleeper……
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 23, 2025 10:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let me ask you all this
What’s the difference between Montero and Wilmer Flores or Villalona? Assuming here theyre all going to end up at first. I realize many of you wont agree, but I think its pretty likely that is the case. So, for the purposes of this argument, try to make me a case for one over the other assuming they all end up at 1B…
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
even then
he showed solid plate discipline and contact ability, and the power is highly likely going to come. combine those together that’s still a good prospect
by RollingWave on Dec 24, 2025 5:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who...?
Are you talking about Montero? That’s my point. He’s generally well below Flores and VIllalona on prospect lists, and I dont think its deserved. I might like his bat best out of all of them.
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tough
Yankeee system right now is tough, there’s a lot of depth but very little up top right now due to recent graduation and flamouts. my thoughts is that they have a ton of B to C+ guys but no truely B+ or A guys right now.
by RollingWave on Dec 24, 2025 5:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Montero
I am a big follower of Jesus and I agree, at this time he is not a B+ or A - YET. He definitely will be, it will be a couple of years though. The good news is, I think if he has the patience, and works his way through the minors system, he will be the #1 contender as Posadas replacement. Posadas contract should give him the time. He will certainly have the talent and ability to take over when the time is right. He has the power right now, and is working on his defense. Although the Yankees have a lot of talent at the catchers position, I honestly think he will be the future starter. (So long as the Yankee organization has the PATIENCE)
by pjeahnj on Dec 24, 2025 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
He is NOT a catcher… Again, Goldstein was pressed on the issue in a chat and said that every single person he’s talked to who gets paid for their baseball opinion (ie scouts, front office) thinks Montero has no chance to catch at the MLB level. Further, he said all the people he’s talked to with the Yankees dont view him a catcher.
by alskor on Dec 24, 2025 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better depth than one might think - Nik Turley sleeper
As they have guys like Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Al Aceves, Humberto Sanchez, Dave Robertson, and Frankie Cervelli that have touched the MLs but will likely start out in AAA.
I’m a big fan, so I try to read a good deal on the system. Here’s my best guess on where they would stand:
Jesus Montero - B+
If he can stay at catcher, he’s an A/A-, but I think he makes it to B+ on the bat alone;
Austin Jackson - B
Not sure what the grade should be, but I think he’s going to be avg/slightly below avg O with + D. He’s very streaky…like J Upton without the same upside;
Dellin Betances - B
Seems like he finally put it together in the 2nd half (like some others have mentioned). Top of the rotation stuff;
Zach McAllister - B-
Probably good for the 3/4 as an innings eater when all is said and done. I’m a big fan. I think he could rise fast if needed;
Mark Melancon - B-
Again, I don’t know what the ranks should be, but he’s got a + FB, + CB, avg+ CU, with good command, an efficient approach, and the “closer” mentality. I think he could work a 7/8 innings for NYY out of ST, but they’ll probably keep him in AAA until they can work out some 40-man issues or he forces their hand;
Andrew Brackman - B-
True he’s a great talent, but he is very, very raw, and already 23;
Christian Garcia - B-
I’m very big on him. If he can get his FB completely back after him TJ surgery, then he has top-of-the-rotation stuff;
Austin Romine - B-
I’d put him at a B if not for the marginal reports coming out of HI. He had a monster 2nd half at Charleston;
Other B-/C+ guys for me would be Bleich (good job by Opp and team on scouting him), the latin trio of Vizcaino, Heredia, and Banuelos, Suttle (who had an ok year despite the injuries), and maybe Sosa and Laird could be C+. I’m not a big fan of Kontos, as I think he’ll end-up in the BP, or DeLeon, as he strikes out way too much in the DSL for my taste.
I think Alan Horne, and Nik Turley could surprise this year. Horne could work out if 2008 was related to a non-arm or shoulder related injury, and he reverts to 2007 form. Nik Turley is a 6’6" or 6’7" LHSP drafted out of high school. After working with the staff, he showed a plus curve and flashed a plus change. If he can get to the gym and increase his weight from 195 to 220 or 230, then hopefully his avg fb can jump from 89ish to 92 or 93. Nardi Contreras, as well as the GCL coach, both raved on the guy’s ability and work ethic.
by ekh1210 on Dec 24, 2025 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
depth???
The Yankees have depth in their pockets…but not in their prospects.
We’re talking one top 30 guy (Jackson) and about 7 that are merely C+ guys with potential to become organizational depth. “Maybe” the yanks get lucky and one fo the arms develops into a replacement for Rivera…or “maybe” they get at least 1 good catcher to come up between Montero and Romine…maybe both…but Tampa Bay/Oakland/Texas…the Yankees are NOT. I don’t know where I’d rank them…it wouldn’t be in the top 9 of the AL…probably somewhere in the 10-13 range. Probably ahead of Seattle…maybe Detroit.
by Aslan on Dec 24, 2025 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Different type of depth
The depth to which I was referring is the type that wouldn’t show up on John’s list, as they have had exposure to the majors. I wasn’t trying to say that they are deep in all positions, or from AAA to the DSL. Just that they have, say, six C+ or better guys in AAA that wouldn’t show up on these rankings.
I think the 2008 draft really set them back, and I don’t like their “total track record” guys like Ian Kennedy and David Adams.
by ekh1210 on Dec 24, 2025 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
depth
I’m just saying as of today, I’d take any other AL farm system with the exception of Seattle. Detroit would be a toss-up. I’d be tempted to take them because they have Porcello…but I might take the Yanks because I think there are more top 100 (AL-only) guys in the Yankees farm right now than the Tigers.
But every other farm in the AL is better at the top and deeper than the Yankees at this point.
by Aslan on Dec 25, 2025 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Again
I’m not saying that they have a deeper system than anyone or everyone in the AL or NL or the NPB (although I disagree with you on the comparative state of their system). I’m saying that they have some “prospects” that will start in AAA that won’t show up on John’s list, such as Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Al Aceves, et cetera. The fact that you put Kei Igawa as 2nd on your list shows either your extreme bias or ignorance of the system.
by ekh1210 on Dec 25, 2025 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Igawa
I put Igawa as 2nd because he has the best chance of all the pitchers of making an impact at the MLB level next season. Thus far he has been a dissappointment…as has Hughes…as has Kennedy…as has Sanchez…ETC… I’m just saying I’d like to see what he can do with 10 starts or some real middle relief time…to really see what he’s got.
You talk about all these other players as if they are solid AAA players ready to make an impact at the MLB level, yet I see nobody on your list that is definitively better than Igawa right now. Betances is younger…had a good season of A ball last year…but has shown similar stats to Igawa except 3 levels lower and with a much higher perpensity to walk hitters.
Igawa may have failed at the MLB level, as did Hughes and Kennedy…but he’s performed at AAA ball and has at least made it to the show as a starter. I can’t name more than 2-7 prospect pitchers in the Yankees entire system that will even accomplish that with any degree of certainity.
by Aslan on Dec 25, 2025 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"J Upton without the same upside"
That’s a pretty useless prospect comp. J Upton’s elite upside is what makes him who he is.
by jibs on Dec 25, 2025 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry. I thought I made it clear that I wasn’t comparing their overall talents, but that they are both very streaky hitters, and that is what holds them both back.
by ekh1210 on Dec 25, 2025 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Garcia fully healthy yet?
How was his stuff in ’08?
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by OldProspects on Dec 25, 2025 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Garcia healthy
But his fastball isn’t all the way back, according to two reports I’ve read. He’s currently sitting 91 - 93 vice 93 - 95. He put up some nice numbers, with a 65/23 K/BB in 55 innings in his first season back from TJ (outside of his first three GCL starts in which he was trashed), so thankfully it looks like the spinner is there.
by ekh1210 on Dec 26, 2025 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I have two more questions - first, I see that he pitched 15.2 IP in May, 9 in June, and then in August more. Did he get hurt another time in June/July? Was it serious?
Second, is his curveball back to what it was?
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by OldProspects on Dec 26, 2025 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cervelli
I like Cervelli a lot. He has every, single tool you want in a receiver except for power. He can hit for average, he has a great eye that draws walks, and most importantly, his skills behind the plate grade out very, very high. He calls a great game, mows down runners, blocks the plate, pitchers love working with him and he’s a fiery team-leader type. After being injured for most of the year, he came back to hit .315 and post a .432 OBP for the year in his AA debut, so he seems to have no problem raising his level and assumed a team leadership role in winning the Eastern League.
Everyone raves about his intangibles, and if his receiving skills are as good as advertised, he won’t need to hit a ton of homers to be a big asset behind the plate for a major league team. He seems to have a very similar profile to Dioner Navarro.
by Tom Gaffney on Dec 24, 2025 3:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs




