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MiLB Saturday 4/14

First Post, so don't kill if I missed a few/many, especially in A ball:

AAA - Alex White, Alex Wilson, Casey Crosby, Henry Sosa, Mike Montgomery, John Ely

AA - Nathan Eovaldi, Tyler Skaggs, Darin Gorski

A Adv - Gerrit Cole, Grant Dayton (being converted from a RP)

A - Aaron Sanchez

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It's alive!!

Aaron Hicks with a single, double, and a SB in his first 2 AB’s. 6 straight games with an XBH.

by ROBERTS04 on Apr 14, 2025 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I have never been a Hicks guy but his progress is worth noting

He does have crazy tools and hopefully they are starting to translate into results!

Big Sexy

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by King Billy Royal on Apr 14, 2025 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

on fire right now in the Eastern League, so much easier hitting environment than FSL.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 14, 2025 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

finished 2-4 , 2B , BB , K

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 15, 2025 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Sanchez

3IP | 1H | 0R | 2BB | 3K

Will add some more notes later

by MjwW on Apr 14, 2025 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I love him too

but in a purely sexual way

by sourstuff on Apr 14, 2025 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notes

52 pitches, 29 strikes. 3 GB, 1 FB, 1PO, 1 fliner. Got 6 swinging strikes on 22 swings for a 27% whiff rate.

Struggled with his command a fair bit, both fastball and secondaries, but also showed how good/effective those premium secondaries can be. Fastball sat around 93 through all three innings according to the announcers, touching 95-96. In the first inning, 5 straight balls to start but used the curveball to punch out two batters, one looking and one swinging, as well as a pick off that sounded like an incredible move. Also struggled with command in the second, but sowcased the change-up getting three swinging strikes, including two to K Aaron Westlake. The third inning was his best in terms of efficiency but still had some struggles spotting the fastball. Fell behind 8 of the 11 batters faced

by MjwW on Apr 14, 2025 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Nicolino

3IP | 4H | 1R/0ER | 1BB | 3K

Most of the contact was weak, very good outing other than loss of command in a 3 batter stretch in his second inning. Only 50 pitches, would have liked to have seen a 4th inning. Showed his polish as he didn’t have his best stuff with the fastball sitting in the high 80s according to the announcers yet still pitched effectively. He could move quite quickly. Will add more notes later

by MjwW on Apr 14, 2025 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone made the point

that Bundy’s going 3 innings now was so that his innings limit could be spread over the entire season, and the piggyback system accomplishes the same goal. The shackles will come off soon enough.

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I understand it, but there’s also a pitch count element to it - if a guy has 3 easy innings, I’d like to see a 4th. It’s one thing to dominate a line-up once through, it would be nice to see how they hold up twice through. I trust the approach of the Jays development guys though.

by MjwW on Apr 14, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not with these guys and at this point at least

It’s been telegrammed they each go 3 IP, unless the pitch count gets too high. It’s written into the Lugnut media notes ahead of time. I know the second half of last year last year Hutchison was on a twin count, 65 pitches or 6 innings, whichever came first.

by MjwW on Apr 15, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

two things I've always wondered about with these kinds of pitch counts

1. Does this mean that we’re seeing better stuff out of these guys than we would if they were pitching full starts? After all, if they know they’re only going three innings, what incentive is there to hold back?

2. Shouldn’t opposing teams just stand there with their bats on their shoulders and only swing at pitches clearly in the zone? It seems like it’d be way too easy to just let these young pitchers work themselves into trouble, push their pitch counts up, and force them into making mistakes . . .

by mrkupe on Apr 15, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't have definitive answers but some thoughts

1. I’d guess maybe a little bit. They’re still going 50+ pitches for the most part, so it’s not like they can just go completely all out. But you don’t necessary see them when they may be fatigued. What I would expect is better results, since they’re not going multiple times through the order for the most part. Sanchez only faced 11 hitters, Nicolino 14.

2. I don’t think that’s really an optimal equilibrium strategy. If a guy’s not throwing strikes, sure (but that’s already done - hence 3-0 takes), but you give a guy like Nicolino that advantage and he’s going to take advantage. I just don’t think it would really work - and really, if it was an optimal strategy, you’d see it more often than just with MiLB guys on pitch counts (to a certain extent you do it see, guys want to work the count, run up the starters count and get him out and into the bullpen). The other thing is, the opposing batters are all young as well and need to be developing, you you don’t want to change their appraoch for one pitcher.

by MjwW on Apr 15, 2025 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my take,

that we’re probably seeing their best velo without much dip but that they are throwing enough pitches that they still treat it like a start. And it’s the second outing of the year for these guys. There will be ample opportunity for them to go deeper and turn the lineup over. Patience.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

more clarity

The Jays are going by pitch count for when they end a players season. From several articles I have read they don’t prescribe to the 130 IP or whatever IP limit. They decide a pitch count for the season and then stick with that.

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have a link on that?

I’m curious, I can’t recall reading about the policy explicitly stated as such

by MjwW on Apr 15, 2025 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Search for the question on McGowan

http://thestar.blogs.com/baseball/2012/03/jays-mailbag-where-will-adeiny-hechavarria-be-in-2012-.html

It mentions how the Jays have a formula for pitches /innings. I have seen this somewhere else, probably a Farrell interview. Huey might mention innings but it’s really pitches Huey focus on. Notice how they are prepping Hutchison to take over September, interesting.

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Had stopped reading the Griff mailbag in the winter so missed it. Last year Hutchison was shut down and couldn’t pitch much in September (EL playoffs), so I imagine it’s just to extend him throughout the season and a possible callup. At this point, Mcgowan’s inning cap won’t matter since I doubt we see him before June.

by MjwW on Apr 15, 2025 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely

wont matter for McGowan. It was interesting to read it was part of an org philosophy, and interesting to know they are setting Hutchison to be ready for a callup.

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notes

50 pitches, 34 strikes. 7 GB, 2 FB, 1 LD. A lot of weak contact, a couple of the hits were ground balls. 7 swinging strikes on 27 swings, for a 26% whiff rate.

Pretty efficient outing despite a few defensive miscues (2 errors) behind him which extended innings. In his first inning, had a decent sequence where he fell behind 2-0 on two missed change-ups, then came back at 3-1 with back to back change-ups inducing swinging strikes. Struggled a little in his second inning with command over a 3 batter stretch but that was it. Got a handful of swinging strikes off the breaking ball in his second and third innings.

by MjwW on Apr 14, 2025 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darvish

He’s a prospect according to Sickels, so I assume he’s fair game here.

Another lackluster showing: 5.2 IP, 9 H, 2 R (1 ER), 4 BB, 4 K, 102 P. Probably lucky to have escaped without more runs.

Through two starts, both against teams with weaker lineups (SEA, MIN)… he’s thrown 11.1 IP, allowed 17 hits, walked 8, and fanned 9. Given up 7 runs (6 earned). Hasn’t completed 6 IP in either, but needed over 100 pitches both times. Between the walks and high pitch counts, it almost reminds me of Matsuzaka.

It’s only two starts, but I thought he would come out of the gates firing, especially with hitters not having seen much or any of him before. Maybe the third time (start) is the charm….

by rdf8585 on Apr 14, 2025 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Twins left bases loaded Twice off Yu. A bit fornutate i came away rather unimpressed with Yu's arsenal.

This talk of him having 7-9 different pitches needs to end.

He threw 3 pitches today.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 14, 2025 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

good velocity, very good movement

serious problems locating his pitches. In Japan it’s much easier to get hitters to chase. Hopefully he starts locating his pitches.

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being a Texas Rangers fan...

…I thought I’d offer a perspective. First off, in a “normal” situation, Yu would have started in the minors, probably at least AA. But the situation isn’t normal. Texas spent A LOT of money and there was no way that money was going to go into the minors. I agree about the 7-9 different pitches. I sure haven’t seen them all. Two starts is not going to sway my opinon of him one way or another…yet. Let’s remember that they put him 4th in the rotation to begin with, so the coaches obviously didn’t think he was ready to head a rotation, which is a good move. If his next start doesn’t go well (scheduled against Detroit on Friday), I think they will move him into the 5th spot and use the “skipped” start method to allow him to work on his control more. There was definite improvement yesterday over the first start. But the # of walks and lack of strikes is obviously a control issue at this point. Again, it is far too early to consider what the Rangers really have here. We’ll know more in a month or so.

by rblythepittsteel on Apr 15, 2025 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly

Gammons said in a radio spot this week that he’d take Henderson Alvarez’ next 5 years over Darvish’s.

by rdf8585 on Apr 15, 2025 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I’m a big fan of Avarez’s, but he still has to prove he can strike guys out and keep the ball in the park. Great stuff but he could have some growing pains, especially in that division. Watching it chew up BAL’s top arms has been instructive.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Alvarez

But that’s tough. That’s Darvish’s prime.

by MjwW on Apr 15, 2025 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I hope he’s right but..did I mention ‘wow’?

by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Astros

Personal favorite Nicholas Tropeano is going today after firing 5 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 10 K last time out.

Brett Oberholtzer starts for AA Corpus Christi.

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Trop is dealing so far

4 IP 2 H 0 R 6 K 2 BB

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still going....

6 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 8 K, 6-1 GO-FO

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's his final line.

I will continue to use my Shaun Marcum comp for him.

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

You’re not trading him for Bret Lawrie

by MjwW on Apr 14, 2025 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's 18k's

In 11IP I do believe. If he could just add a few ticks to his fastball…

by YohannDookeyblue on Apr 14, 2025 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what the latest reports on his velo are

But I’ve read that at times he can sit at 90-92. I think that is about as good as we can hope for, but I think if he could do that consistently, his changeup will make him a successful starter. I can buy #3 here as crazy as that may sound, I look forward to seeing him in AA later this year.

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that is an outrageous ceiling for him

He is still a ways from getting there, but it is possible I think maybe. Good reports. Good results.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can be similar to Jordan Lyles I think

If he reaches his ceiling as it seems Lyles has done.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Apr 15, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lyles has reached his ceiling?

He’s pitching well in AAA for his 2 starts but he pitched ok there last year as well. Then he got bombed in the majors. He may be improving but I don’t think he’s reached his ceiling just yet.

by Looney4baseball on Apr 15, 2025 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andrew Brackman starting again tonight

He had a very good 1 walk start last game

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrible start

2 walks, a bunch of singles, a bunch of balls in the dirt…now a 2 R double…5 R in 2/3 of an inning. Sigh..and he’s out of the game. 21 balls, 21 strikes. There’s the Andrew we’ve come to expect.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole

Not a good first

2 HR, 3 ER, 1 BB……

but he struck out the side!

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 14, 2025 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

holy Bryan Morris

Not actually affiliated with whygavs.

by WHYG Zane Smith on Apr 14, 2025 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

J.R. Graham

Gets the start for Lynchburg

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Maikel Franco

2 for 4 with a double, homer and K.

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Considering...

…how well Philly is scoring runs right now, he could be playing for them by the end of the month! :)

by rblythepittsteel on Apr 15, 2025 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

I’ll settle for holding his own in A-ball.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Townsend

2 for 5 with a homer, walk and K.

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

a's low A: raul alcantara

high A: blake hassebrock

Snoochies

by guessatomo on Apr 14, 2025 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

alcantara getting bombed

5 runs and 5 hits in 2 innings, 2 Ks and 2 BBs. Also hit Bonifacio with a pitch (Bonifacio returned the HBP favor by doubling in his next at bat).

by scooter on Apr 14, 2025 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

yep

Snoochies

by guessatomo on Apr 14, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Midland leading 3-0 in the 1st

Choice singled on a 0-2 pitch and scored on a double by Peterson.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 14, 2025 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried about his power

It’s early in the season and I believe in his track record enough to count on the power to come around. I think the main concern with Choice is the strikeouts, he had been showing a positive trend in that department but is struggling in AA.

Mostly though, it’s still super early and making the jump to AA is hard. At this point, I believe in his power, I think his ability to make consistent contact is what is going to determine how good he can be.

by OkayJay81 on Apr 15, 2025 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok, he may have gotten bombed

but at least he also had 4 k’s in 4 innings and just 2 bb’s

Snoochies

by guessatomo on Apr 14, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Xander Bogaerts with his 1st HR of the season

he’s 1/3 in the game so far.

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I was a little surprised

to see a .290/.371/.484 triple slash. For some reason I thought he was struggling with contact more. Early days…

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

WV Power guys

Polanco: 2-2 with a HR
Bell: 1-2
Hanson: 0-2 with a K

s.zielinski

by steve_z on Apr 14, 2025 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Highlights from the prospects

Hanson: 1-4 with a 2B and K
Carvajal: 2-4 with a HR
Bell: 2-4 with a K
Polanco: 2-4 with a HR
Garcia: 1-4 with a 2B and K
Gamache: 2-4 with 2 K

s.zielinski

by steve_z on Apr 14, 2025 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Opps

Gamache also had a 2B

s.zielinski

by steve_z on Apr 14, 2025 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco

So what’s the story on his defense? Can he stick in CF?

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco is fast enough

Here is a scouting report on Polanco and Garcia written by a journalist who follows the Pirates minor league teams:

Garcia is a five tool outfielder who was signed by the Pirates for $280 K out of the Dominican Prospect League in 2010. He led the GCL Pirates with five homers in 2011, making the jump to the states after one year in the DSL. He’s got a strong arm, good base running skills, and good power potential.

Polanco is another interesting prospect from the 2009 signing class. He didn’t hit well in 2011, with a .237/.333/.361 line in the Gulf Coast League. He’s a tall, lean player with good speed and the defensive skills to play in center field. He made strong contact with the ball throughout Spring Training, showing some of his power potential. He’s a sleeper candidate to watch in 2012. He’s raw, but if he can carry his Spring Training success over to the games, he could be primed for a breakout season.

s.zielinski

by steve_z on Apr 15, 2025 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just picked him up

in my keeper league this weekend, along with Tyler Austin and Tapia.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Francisco Lindor

3/5

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

how high by the end of the year? Top 15 prospect? Top 10?

Sure feels like sky is the limit with this one.

by mrkupe on Apr 14, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only negative

is 1 BB on the year. If he can’t get at least above a 6% walk rate, I don’t know if you can get him up that high.

by Woodland League on Apr 14, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lindor vs. Profar

Hey, kupe, not to rehash yesterday’s Profar thread, but isn’t there a similarity with Lindor in that exceptional polish may lead to assumptions of a huge ceiling that isn’t there?

by FI2 on Apr 14, 2025 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Lindor and Profar are especially similar, if that's what you are asking

I believe Lindor has an exceptionally high ceiling and not a lot of polish. I have him rated very highly, although I was expecting only passable results for his first couple of years. If he’s picking things up this quickly, though . . .watch out.

by mrkupe on Apr 14, 2025 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciate the clarification

From what I have read, they sound similar, but I’m not as well versed in this stuff as you. Really looking forward to see what Lindor can do.

by FI2 on Apr 14, 2025 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lindor is fairly polished

for a HS bat, and no one who saw him his junior and senior years is surprised he’s off to a good start.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luigi Rodriguez

2/5, 2B, 3B, 2K

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Carlos Perez

2/4, 2B, SB, 2BB

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben Wells

5.2IP, 3H, 3ER, BB, 5K, 8-0 GO-FO

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad first, eventually.settled down. Sinker is there, better pitch counts. Wish he wasn’t piggybacking as id like to see how he carries his stuff, but its early in the year.

by toonsterwu on Apr 15, 2025 12:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Steven Baron

Maybe he is finally figuring things out in his third go around at Clinton now at the age of 21.
2-3 so far today with already his 5th and 6th 2B and 4th SB of the season. It seems more impressive when you consider he only had 14 2Bs and 6 SBs all last year.

by bp42810 on Apr 14, 2025 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Las Vegas

Gose 1/3 2K’s HBP SB (3 for 6 so far)
Hechavarria 0/4 2 K’s
Snider 1/3 BB
Cooper 0/4 2 K’s
Sierra 1/4 K

by Waveburner on Apr 14, 2025 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Tyler Greene

1/3, 2B(4), BB, 2K

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Dunedin

Marisnick 0/2 2 HBP
Knecht 0/4 2 K’s tough start for him

Sam Dyson off to a good post-TJ start: 5.0IP 3H 0R 0BB 4K 8:1 GO:AO

by Waveburner on Apr 14, 2025 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Gerrit Cole

3IP, 4H, 3ER, 2BB, 4K, 2 HR GU, 2-3 GO-FO

Rocky start for him.

I see above that the 2 HR were in the 1st inning so he settle in nicely after that.

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

color me

Not slightly concerned.

by St.Steve on Apr 14, 2025 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're not slightly concerned

does that mean that you’re not at all concerned or that you’re very concerned?

by KentuckyPirate on Apr 15, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be

I’ve always thought he profiled much better as a power pen guy.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised that the Pirates are being so careful

with Cole’s workload. For a college kid that would often throw 100+ pitches for the Bruins, I expected that they’d give him a longer leash. I’d assume they stretch him out more as the year goes along but still…

by KentuckyPirate on Apr 15, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cole vs. Salcedo

good matchup now and in the future.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 15, 2025 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Eibner

2/4, 3B

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Levi Michael

2-4, BB against Cole et al

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 14, 2025 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

FYI

Joe Wieland starting in a few minutes at Dodger Stadium.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 14, 2025 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough start for the rook

BB, FC, HR, HR, 2B, 1B…..still going.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 14, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

92-94

in the second inning. Looking better.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 14, 2025 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemp went to work on him

2 oppo bombs. definitely a rough debut.

5 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 3 HRA

by jwa1417 on Apr 14, 2025 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was brutal

BB to Gordon to start the game. Bunt sac to move Gordon (one out). Kemp comes up (with 1B open). Strike one is a perfect strike taken on the outside corner. Pitch two is a perfect strike taken on the inside corner. What to do with pitch three? He grooved one right down the heart of the plate, which Kemp deposited 400 feet over the CF fence. Wieland hadn’t throw a single off speed pitch to that point, and Kemp must have knew that he had a plan of establishing his fastball. Why he didn’t pitch around him more with 1B open?? Rookie hubris? Either followed up that AB by hitting a HR of his own. The Kemp bomb in the next inning was truly impressive. Curve ball on the low outer half of the plate that Kemp too high and deep to right center. As the announcers were saying, it was a nice pitch, just Kemp is too good. That was a 2 run bomb. So other than Matt Kemp (lol), he actually had a pretty good inning against other MLB comp, giving up 2 ER over 4 H and 2 BB over 5IP.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Why not take out Ethier too? Then he did well against all crappy major league hitters.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

To be fair, if you want to call the LA lineup trashy, it should be noted also that Kemp is on another level from all MLB hitters right now. It’s a very tough assignment for any pitcher. A bomb to someone like Eithier is fine and is bound to happen. So to give up 2 ER over the balance of an MLB lineup isn’t horrendous. but to say he got tagged for 6 ER without the caveat that the rook was pilliaged by Kemp is a bit colored. The bottom line, from my view, is Wieland will have to not live in the zone so much against good hitters. He refused to try and get Kemp to chase and paid for it. Who strikes out Kemp on 3 pitches??

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 15, 2025 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know

I’m just saying, if you take out Kemp, that is a bad bad lineup, even with Either. If you leave Kemp in, it still isn’t a great lineup. He got rocked. Now, granted, he was pretty good against weak hitters and terrible against all-star to MVP quality hitters (couldn’t be worse really). Obviously 1 start doesn’t mean all that much either way, but even if we could draw conclusions based on it, it would only be that he could get out below average major league hitters and he will be lit up by very good hitters, and we don’t really know about average to slightly above average hitters.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone say SSS?

I think “conclusions” are inapplicable at this point. He had good success against 7 MLB hitters in the lineup (sans Kemp and the pitcher) - 5 IP, 3 H, 2 ER. Kemp is hitting everyone right now - hitting around .500. Is it a surprise he went 2-3 with 2 bombs against him - especially when it’s his first start? No. Just call it how it was - he pitched well for most of the game, but he (like many others right now, including many good MLB pitchers) got tagged by the hottest hitter in baseball and blew up his line.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh

“Obviously one start doesn’t mean all that much either way.” Read what I wrote.

You are the one trying to make the small sample size here even smaller. You are trying to find meaning in that small sample, not me. My point is that even if I go along with you and pretend that this small sample means anything, what is means is that he did well against lousy hitters and he got rocked by 2 very good hitters, one of whom is possibly the best hitter in baseball and on a crazy tear right now.

I think the overall line is probably a bit worse than he actually pitched, but we have no way of knowing what other all-star quality bats would have done against him last night (if we HAD to make assumptions, we’d have to assume they’d knock him around pretty bad). We have NO way to make assumptions about how average or slightly above average hitters would have fared against him. But we can assume that with the stuff he was bringing last night, he could be successful against lousy to sub-par hitters.

Again, YOU are the only trying to interpret and micro-analyze his start. I think the general thought that it was just 1 start and nothing to worry about, but a bad start, is the correct view. I think there are some positives to take from it, again, if you insist on micro-analyzing the start, but the negatives are are least as bad as the positives are good.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

Micro-analyze? That’s a new one. I’m simply breaking down his start which was notable because it had 2 big events that accounted for the preponderance of damage. You were the one that tried to draw conclusions from his start, saying that you could “assume” how he would fare against other MLB players of similar ability. “Assume?” Why are you trying to assume anyhting from one start? I’m not trying to assume anything, I was simply trying to provide context from a start where the final line doesn’t seem to tell the true story. Are we not to analyze starts now, or is that “micro analyzing?”. What ever that is. Again, I didn’t say he would be successful in the future, etc. YOU were the one that tried to “assume” the opposite.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 15, 2025 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

All I am saying is

He got rocked by Ethier and Kemp. They happen to be the only 2 good hitters in their lineup. You tried to spin that into a positive. Sneaking into Ethier’s HR into the mix is plain weird and worse than any example of end-point data manipulation. If you want to break down the game, it isn’t just ignore Matt Kemp and he did ok. It is ignore any average or better MLB hitter, and he did quite well.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

But I like Wieland

And I don’t think anyone should be worried about this start. If he struck out Kemp twice and got me to pop up twice, but gave up a HR to Rivera and one to someone else capable of hitting a HR now and then, I think that would have been better, but really, it doesn’t matter much and doesn’t prove much. You need to slow down. It was only one start, and not a good one at all.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

Either went 1-3 with a HR and 2 groundouts. Not exactly “rocked” but hey, it furthers your argument so if you think so. The fact of the matter is that it sounds like we pretty much agree. You simply aren’t willing to give Wieland a free pass on Kemp. The problem is, that I’m not either. I’m simply saying the total damage is somewhat mitigated by the fact that it came against the best guy in baseball. The rest of the outing was pretty good, which includes his effort against Ethier. So that’s all I’m saying. In fact, I thought I was clear that I criticized Wieland’s pitch choice to Kemp in the first AB. Two very well placed fastballs on the corners at 90. Then he tried to sneak a fastball by him at 92 in an off speed pitch count. Come on. No one strikes Kemp out on 3 fastballs, especially the guy that sits in the low nineties. That was dumb. His game plan seemed to be “throw strikes and establish the fastball early” since he threw 1 curve ball in the first. But no plan calls for 3 straight FB to Kemp. He should have thrown one of his 3 off speed pitches, regardless if it was expected from Kemp. So I think I’m being fair while giving some context to the start since the immediate assumption upon looking in the box score is “he got rocked.” Again, the conclusion if this were a book report is that " the final line doesn’t tell the whole story.". Not “if you take out Kemp, he’s a sure-thing HOFer.”. But it’s you that said we can assume that he can’t get good big league hitter out. Not only is that unfair, it’s inaccurate by Ethier’s two weak groundouts. So please, slow down.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 15, 2025 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that.

I said IF IF IF IF IF IF we are going to read way too much into who got hits and who didn’t in this one start, and IF IF IF IF IF IF YOU YOU YOU YOU think it is at all predictive, then all we can predict is that he will be destroyed by good hitters, and he will be very good against lousy hitters. And that we have no idea what he’ll do against roughly average hitters (since no slightly below or above average hitters played against him…no Rivera that game who would have counted I guess).

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did say that

I never said wew should extrapolate future success. I simply said he did well against everyone else but Kemp. That’s a fact - he did do pretty well. You were the one that said IF….. It’s right up above. I refer you there.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 15, 2025 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I don’t think we should read into who got hits and who didn’t. But it seems like you think it makes a difference…that we should read something into it. Now, I know you don’t think we should extrapolate all the numbers and assume all good players will hit at least 1 HR off him and all bad hitters will be kept in check, and I don’t think we should extrapolate the numbers like that either. But you seem to think that it is good that the only two decent hitters in that lineup hit HRs off him and the 6 or 7 other hitters, none of whom are necessarily better than AAA players, didn’t do much.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I tend to give him a bit of a pass in this game, but again, I think he made a terribler decision to Kemp in the first. The homer to Ethier doesn’t bother me that much, he’s a decent hitter. The second homer to Kemp was an insane piece of hitting….low and away curve that Kemp took oppo. But the other hitters? Since Wieland has pitched all of 7 IP over AA, I’m encouraged by the start, even if they were glorified AAA hitters. It’s still a positive.

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 15, 2025 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the first inning sacrifice bunt against a rookie pitcher.

It’s like managers go out of their way to do stupid things sometimes.

by PissedMick on Apr 15, 2025 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty much why I will not watch NL baseball when an AL game is on.

Anyone sacrifice bunting in the first 3 innings should be suspended for 50 games and the manager for 100. No exceptions, no explanations.

by Looney4baseball on Apr 15, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Get [expletive, expletive] little fleas on the [expletive] bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. Get them big [expletives] that can hit the [expletive] ball out of the ballpark.”
- Earl Weaver

by MjwW on Apr 15, 2025 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaleb Cowart

1-4, HR(1) K

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Apr 14, 2025 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Matt Lipka

2/4, HR

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Mark your calendar for June 14, 2013. That should be the next time both Lipka and Rey Fuentes manage to go deep.

by realitypolice on Apr 15, 2025 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

In- Progress

Skaggs struggled in the 4th inning, and gave up 4 runs (an error by Matt Davidson didn’t help). Personal fav, JC Sulbaran is pitching for Pensacola and is cruising.

by sourstuff on Apr 14, 2025 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Final line for Skaggs

5 IP 7 H 4 R 3 ER 2 BB 8 K 1 WP 1 PO 4:1 GO:AO…bunch of singles, but got a little wild at times, not bad

by sourstuff on Apr 14, 2025 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trayce Thompson

1/3 HR(2) 0K

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Oscar Taveras and Jurickson Profar

with Home Runs tonight, 2nd for both. Game still in progress.

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Wil Myers

3-3, 1B, 2B, HR (3) - game still only in the 5th

by FI2 on Apr 14, 2025 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Hitting .333 now with 3 HR

but the K rate is way up, and the traditional BB rate is way down! Maybe he’s pressing and determined to get called up with Omaha? Why the change in approach?

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think BB and K rates stabilize after a week

Too soon to call this a change in approach.

by FI2 on Apr 15, 2025 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True

but the flip flop is extreme, suggesting a change in approach. This is reinforced by the increase in power, showing that he’s being more aggressive.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too soon to reach a verdict

but not too soon to start wondering. Small sample size, but it’s 100% of the evidence since the start of a new season, on the heels of the instruction that comes with spring training.

by siddfynch on Apr 15, 2025 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

No one is saying Myers HAS in fact changed his approach. But a trend is a trend is a trend. And right now, after 40 PA, there is a trend of walking less and striking out more. There’s also a trend of more power. So it appears he’s being more aggressive and it’s worth tracking. If I’m right and after two months from now we’re all wondering what happened, I’ll claim a higher knowledge!

Duh, no doy.

by Mike Kaluk on Apr 15, 2025 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm worried about this too

14 Ks to 2 BBs for a player who traditionally walks well. Increase in power. I would agree that he’s pressing and trying to get a call up to AAA.

by noelman31 on Apr 15, 2025 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we at least wait 50 at bats before calling it a trend?

If he hits .333 he can strike out 200 times and it won’t make a bit of difference.

by Looney4baseball on Apr 15, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

add in that players on hot streaks tend to walk less

but hey, when we are talking SSS, in the first couple of weeks lets extrapolate our hearts out. After all it’s outright stupid to extrapolate a HR in the first game, but for some reason it’s normal to do it after 10 games?

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe its early to make any conclusions.

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by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I wouldn’t be shocked if he had a stretch like this at another time, but it wasn’t to start the season so it didn’t get picked at.

by hybrid on Apr 15, 2025 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample sizes are more meaningful in some situations than others

this is sometimes lost among the “SSS” warnings

by siddfynch on Apr 15, 2025 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other times it's just a SSS.

Either way, if he hits .333 he can strike out all he wants, as it really won’t matter.

by Looney4baseball on Apr 15, 2025 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

AA Richmond (Giants)

Gary Brown
0/4

Michael Kickham
6 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 6 K

by wilriv21 on Apr 14, 2025 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

No

The appropriate time to start worrying about Brown was June 2010 when he was totally over-drafted. People simply forgot to stop worrying about him last year.

by realitypolice on Apr 15, 2025 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Overdraft?

Not really sure. Didn’t BA have Brown rated in the Top 20 - (thought it was 14)? Let GB get 150/200 ABs at AA before we begin to worry.

by wilriv21 on Apr 15, 2025 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Posted Jun. 7, 2010 8:16 pm by John Manuel
Filed under: Draft Day

Gary Brown was hurt down the stretch and wasn’t a consensus first-rounder. Some teams doubted his bat and feel for hitting. But he was 14th on BA’s Top 200 with top-of-the-line speed and excellent defensive ability in center field, and Brown should be able to move quickly to San Francisco. He gives the Giants another position player prospect, an area the Giants have thrived in since John Barr took over as scouting director.

by wilriv21 on Apr 15, 2025 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lo A Augusta (Giants)

Kyle Crick
3.2 IP, 2H. 2ER, 5BB, 3K, 2WP, HBP

by wilriv21 on Apr 14, 2025 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

this was a rough one.

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just

read a report of his last start, against Tapia, and he was rough there too. Velo down by the end of a short outing and he beaned some poor guy. Significant control issues to start the year.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two Starts

and two full scorecards. This kid knows how to fill up the entire scorecard from HBP, balks, WP on and on. Young wild horse with plenty of time to develop. Let Tidrow whisper in his ear and voila!

by wilriv21 on Apr 15, 2025 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Filling the score card

Ha! True that. I’m very, very high on him based on stuff and physical tools. I definitely didn’t come into the year expecting him to be on the fast track.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Jackson

2-3, 2B, HR (2)

by Woodland League on Apr 14, 2025 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

not a prospect

But he hasn’t been in the majors that long. What a start by Mike Minor tonight. 7 1/3, 2 hits (the 2nd was to the last batter he faced), 4Ks, 1 bb.

by noelman31 on Apr 14, 2025 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only person

who really just doesn’t think Garrett Richards is going to be very good?

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's your definition of good?

I think he will be a pretty good 3/4 starter, and I consider that good.

by sourstuff on Apr 14, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see a #4

While there is definitely the potential for him to be better than that, his numbers simply don’t live up to his stuff in the strikeout department and seeing as he’s somewhat old for prospect standards I’m not so confident that they will any time soon. He could be a late blooming type and I wouldn’t be shocked, but for now he’s not that exciting to me.

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Old?

He’s 23 and he’s already seen MLB. First year in AAA. He’s right on schedule. His numbers have improved almost every year he’s touched a ball. I’d say there’s a lot to be excited about. #3 potential is very good.

by Woodland League on Apr 14, 2025 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always seen 23-24

As the age past which big improvements start to get increasingly rarer than the 18-22 range. Maybe it’s a misconception on my part, but its always seemed that way from my point of view. Yes he has seen MLB, but he averaged just 6.5 K/9 last year in AA, which isn’t what you want out of a stuff-first guy. I think he’s going to be a major league pitcher for a long time, but I don’t see him as a #2/3 type as a lot seem to think. I agree with kupe that a move to the pen could be beneficial as well.

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of players could go either way

but his K/9 was down last year as compared to his previous full year of pro ball. However, it’s back at 10 K/9 after two starts this year. He’s not a truly overpowering FB pitcher and needs to refine his command with his 3 pitches. All in all, a 2.5 BB/9 rate with a 7-10 K/9 rate for a pitcher isn’t bad. But this is a big year to see if he can take a leap. He’s impressing so far in the PCL.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he ends up as a No. 4 quality starter, I'd just shift him to the pen

He’d probably sit high-90s as a reliever, so he’d be a natural late-inning guy.

by mrkupe on Apr 14, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I think this is a fairly reasonable outcome myself.

by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex White

Nice start. Needs to get going.

5 IP, 6H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

Only 67 pitches. Must be on a pitch count as he gets stretched out.

by Woodland League on Apr 14, 2025 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Matt Adams

2 for 4 with a double, strikeout

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Dom Brown

2 for 4 with a triple, strikeout

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Glynn Davis

3 for 5

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Realmuto

2 for 4 with a walk

by charles wallace on Apr 14, 2025 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Nate Eovaldi

6.0 IP, 3.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 9 SO, 1 BB

by Ryne Alber on Apr 14, 2025 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Allowed a homer,

but a stellar start otherwise.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Christian Colon

2/4, HR. BB, K

by wilriv21 on Apr 14, 2025 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Jurickson Profar and his huge celing

3/4, HR(2)

Take a bow son.

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 14, 2025 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you meant

Jurickson Profar and his polish.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has a huge ceiling

That people don’t want to believe it because he is also polish then its there problem.

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who doesn't believe he has a big ceiling?

Who? I think C.W. was making a joke anyway.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Not a very good one, but yeah. lol

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Specifically?

… both of these guys are entitled to thier opinion and, correct often enough on thier evaluations over the years, I am not criticising them but . . .

Mr. Kupe said he may have been overrated based on last year’s numbers becuase he was such a polished player in the SAL

and, Pedrophile said that Profar’s tools OFP ect., don’t equal a top 5 prospect.

As to whether they still believe his upside is “big”? Well “big” is rather subjective and, you’d have to ask them how big they think his upside is. I’d say they were saying it isn’t as big as some think though.

Just to be on record though. I think his upside is even bigger than most think, even some of his biggest supporters.

"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers

by casejud on Apr 15, 2025 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think

He’s a future MVP?

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I don’t see him ever in that category. Guys like Machado, Montero, Cole, etc. I see having that potential.

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I respect the possibility that you can see these things before they happen

Personally I do not see this from Gerritt Cole but, I do see it from Trevor Bauer. I don’t see Machado as having better tools or, future potential t5han Profar. I think Montero will win a batting title or, two though, despite his lack of speed.

"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers

by casejud on Apr 15, 2025 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's of that caliber, yes

Players who are good ballplayers in AA at the age of 19 is where MVP’s and, even hall of fame ballplayers come from. So, yes I do think he can become that.

"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers

by casejud on Apr 15, 2025 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you see him at that level than 5th overall is understandable

Many rank him around 4 or 5 but when asked what Profar will do put out rather solid but unspectacular numbers. The top 10 prospects should be studs.

by pedrophile on Apr 15, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a big difference between guys who show early polish with big ceilings, and guys who show early polish with more moderate ceilings.

There’s also a reason that scouts list current and future grades for tools. Profar is a very good prospect who should be a very good player. The chances of him being a great player aren’t as high as you’d think they’d be though, and that’s because of a lack of elite tools.

Melky Cabrera hit .280/.360/.391 as a 21-year-old, in New York of all places. In 500+ ABs. Do you remember anyone projecting superstardom for him? Why not? Why has he been passed around from team to team, if such early polish at a young age is evidence of his huge ceiling? How about Elvis Andrus? Can we expect him to be a top-3 shortstop any day now, given how good he was at 20?

Profar has a chance to be better than both of those guys, sure, because his tools are slightly more impressive. They’re not THAT much more impressive though, and that’s why it’s tough to project him as a future superstar along the lines of Harper or Trout.

by PissedMick on Apr 15, 2025 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

George Springer with a HR

Another K, his K-rate not the greatest early on.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting

The tale of two college prospects continues:

Springer with the 278/333/500 slash line over 48 ABs, with 9 K and only 2 BB. Of course, playing in the Cal League has helped the power numbers. Both the K rate and BB rate are worrying, but perhaps he’s familiar with CAL’s second-most-hitter friendly reputation and is trying to hit bombs every time up there (though a terrible approach to embrace).

Mahtook is 290/410/323(!) over 31 ABs with 5 BB but only 3 K. Playing in the FSL is horrible for power numbers, but Mahtook’s gonna have to show a little something over the course of the year. But his K and BB rates are excellent and suggest he’s much more comfortable with this level of pitching than Springer.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

That should read 36 ABs, for Springer, for a 25% K rate.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

K rate is based on PA

By most sources, and I’m pretty sure that is the standard used around here. He has 39 PA so far and a 23.1% K rate. Not great, but small sample and not insanely scary.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

Thanks.

by Woodland League on Apr 15, 2025 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Terdman

Hit a HR too. His K rate is really looking great after the 6 K in his first 2 games. And he’s got 2 HR. I’d love to know more about what he is doing defensively at 3B though.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 14, 2025 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

me too

Despite the poor first few games, i’m confident in his bat. Read something about a bad defensive game, but that’s the thing to keep tabs on over the course of the season — will he improve enough to stick at 3B? If so, he’s a top flight prospect.

by scooter on Apr 14, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be clear

I meant he’s kept his K rate quite low following that 6K in 2 game start to the season

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jiovanni Mier

He kinda lives.

2 for 3, HR, K

Hitting .321 as a 21 year old in High A, I guess it’s something?

by kyuss94 on Apr 14, 2025 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, it's something

Not much, but In Houston, he might not need to hit at all to get a shot.

by mrkupe on Apr 14, 2025 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't going to go there, but yeah

While you’re at it, though, you might as throw in the fact that he’s still striking out once a game in the early going, and that he has the benefit of having had substantial experience at the same level last year.

Still, I imagine his glove is really what matters at this point . . .I don’t think anybody is expecting him to do much at the plate but draw some walks.

by mrkupe on Apr 14, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So glad Bobby Heck and Ed Wade

Got their guy for slot. sarcasm

Infact, the ONLY Heck pick Ive liked is Springer.

by YohannDookeyblue on Apr 15, 2025 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah bad track record

But I do think there was an economic pressure that hopefully will be gone now.

by auclairkeithbc on Apr 15, 2025 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

games still in progress

tj walz: 5 ip’s, 4 k’s, 0 bb’s, 1 earned run, 3 hits

miles head: 2-3, 2 singles

grant green: 2-3,

stephen parker: 0-1, bb, k

Snoochies

by guessatomo on Apr 14, 2025 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Head just hit a homerun

His third of the season, he’s off to quite a hot start in the Cal league. Must be enjoying the friendly confines.

by OkayJay81 on Apr 15, 2025 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha seriously

i semi-predicted he’d rake in the super friendly cal league

Snoochies

by guessatomo on Apr 15, 2025 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oscar Taveras 1-4, HR

by notsukao on Apr 15, 2025 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Eddie Rosario 2-5, 2B , K (E , 4)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 15, 2025 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Miguel Sano 2-5, K

*Rosario didn’t actually strike out

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 15, 2025 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Angel Morales 4-5 , HR(1) off Cole , 2B , K

time to have him bumped up to the Eatern League to join Aaron Hicks in the OF.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 15, 2025 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

You,solid month so far by Angel

Back up the Minn prospect list he goes

by Jack203 on Apr 15, 2025 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yordano Ventura

3 ip, 3 h, 2 r, 3 bb, 6 k

Parks had some ridiculous reports on him tonight. throwing 95-98 with future plus-plus curve and decent changeup. probably a future reliever but really no need to go that route yet.

R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
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by doublestix on Apr 15, 2025 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Domingo Tapia

7 IP 3H 0R 8K 0BB

by secret defense on Apr 15, 2025 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

also

13 GO: 0 FO

by secret defense on Apr 15, 2025 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Tapia supposedly threw between 95-98 mph with heavy sink in his first start. Haven´t read about today´s outing, though I suppose he can´t have been all too bad. However, if he can come up with a solid enough breaking pitch & changeup, he could shoot up lists.
Actually, the Savannah 6-man rotation of Tapia, 1st round Michael Fulmer (who also sat in the 92-96 mph range in his first start), RH Rafael Montero, plus college righties Tyler Pill and Logan Verret and lefty Alex Panteleodis could be pretty special. Doesn´t even have space for LH Jack Leathersich (12 K´s in 7 IP in long relief so far after 26 K´s in 13 IP last year in Short Season ball) who remains in pen for now.

While the Mets may not have a lot of advanced / high ceiling hitting prospects right now, they do have a ton of high-ceiling and projectable arms in their system behind their “Big 3 1/2” Wheeler, Harvey, Familia and rehabing Jenry Mejia.

by Doob on Apr 15, 2025 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Secondaries

are definitely the question. He’s huge, young, with a legit plus FB and a pretty good delivery, so there’s a lot to like.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I agree

that Tapia follows in the steps of Mejia and Familia. Mejia had more usable pitches but nowhere near the sturdiness. Familia is probably the better comp based on plus FB and physique, but I don’t think anyone will find fault with Tapia’s delivery as was the case with Familia. I don’t know if the Mets teach it, or just scout it, but all three guys have great sink on their FBs to go with plus velo (bowling balls). Just down to health and development of the other pitches.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Vidal

3/4, 2B, HR(2)

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Leon Landry

3/4, 2 2B, HR(2), 2 SB(5), BB, K

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

C.J. Cron

2/3, 2B

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

the guy can just rake

I’m concerned about his position in that organization, but these things have a tendency to work themselves out (Pujols moving to DH, Morales and Trumbo being traded, etc.).

How far away do people think Cron is?

by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 15, 2025 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

2014, maybe fall 2013

A+/AA this year
AA/AAA next year with a cup of coffee in September

If all goes according to plan, of course.

by another know it all on Apr 15, 2025 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Randal Grichuk

3/2, 2B, 3B, BB

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

2/3

XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1

by DominicanDandy on Apr 15, 2025 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he was 3-for-2, they’d have to really consider bringing him up right away!

by realitypolice on Apr 15, 2025 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Belfiore

After Anthony Meo put up a line of 4 1/3 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 6/4 K/BB, Belfiore came in and struck out 7 of the 9 batters he faced, 6 of them swinging for a neat line of
2 2/3 IP, 0 H, 7/1 K/BB

For the season, he’s given up just a hit and 2 walks in 5 2/3 innings with 11 Ks. He’s a bit old for the Cal League so should be interesting to see how he does at Mobile or Reno.

by bbtng on Apr 15, 2025 2:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Tyler Austin

4 for 4 with two doubles and his first walk of the year. 4 doubles, 3 triples and 3 homers on the year. Move to RF could expedite things.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously underrated, even by most Yankees fans

If he can be average in RF defensively, he should get some attention this year.

by cookiedabookie on Apr 15, 2025 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odubel Herrera

3 for 5 with a double. First XBH of the year.

by charles wallace on Apr 15, 2025 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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