MiLB 05/07
Since I'm up earlier than everyone else today...
Class A: Zach Lee, Austin Wright, Tyrell Jenkins, Austin Wood, Cam Bedrosian, Noah Syndergaard, Dylan Bundy, Michael Foltyniewicz, Ben Alsup
Double A: Nestor Molina, Tyler Skaggs, Chris Withrow, Justin Grimm, AJ Griffin
Triple A: Julio Tehran, Manny Banuelos, Garrett Richards, Everett Teaford, Martin Perez, Alex Sanabia, rehab start for Diasuke Matsuzaka.
Must be bad weather on the East Coast, Eastern League probables today are all the same...TBD.
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Not sure if he still has rookie status, so I included Sanabia
because I like him.
Maybe not a rookie, maybe not a sleeper, but he’s got some cajones. Not overpowering stuff, but he’s not afraid of the strike zone, either.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 7, 2025 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
YUCK
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on May 7, 2025 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
not just going, but quickly gone
3.1 IP, 10 H, 8 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, gave up a grand slam to David Lough.
by mrkupe on May 7, 2025 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
For those who care . . .
It sounds like Oscar Taveras is probably okay after colliding with his teamate yesterdayon a flyball. It also sounds like Kolten Wong was not seriously hurt either.
http://www.news-leader.com/article/20120507/SPORTS02/305070032/springfield-cardinals-arkansas-travelers-wong-taveras?odyssey=nav%7Chead
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by casejud on May 7, 2025 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Oh thank God!
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 7, 2025 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to know
I’m not sure you could survive very long without having Taveras to talk about ;)
by nixa37 on May 7, 2025 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Word on that
Taveras is having such a super campaign thus far that I wouldn’t care to see it derailed. I realize I’m sort of moving the figurative needle back to previous comments, but I have to say again that I was really just pleased with the aggressive assignment initially & figured that the player - as talented as he is - would likely need some sort of adjustment period (granted, it wouldn’t likely be a long one considering his #s in A ball). The fact that Taveras pretty much is turning AA on its ear & has been from the drop only inculcates how impressive a prospect this kid is (19 until mid/late June). One of my faves.
by Matt0330 on May 8, 2025 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Carlos Martinez
Is going as we speak.
Currently through 4 inn, 1H, 0BB,4K
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 7, 2025 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
5IP, 2H, 5K
This makes me happy. I was hoping he wasn’t hurt.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 8BB in 27IP is what makes me happy.
Very much improved from last year.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 7, 2025 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Definitely making progress on his primary area of concern.
6IP, 3H, 0ER, 1BB, 6K
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
struggling in the 7th
2 HB already, a double and a WP….
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
out of it
strike out and a fly out to strand runners at 1st and 3rd.
7IP, 3H, 1ER, 1BB, 7K
7-6 GO-AO
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Up to a 30:9 K:BB now
Impressive. Still want to see some video to see if/how he’s ironed out his delivery. That was his primary area of concern for me when I saw 2011 Palm Beach footage.
by charles wallace on May 7, 2025 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He has an easy, whip type arm action.
I never thought the delivery was a problem. He didn’t repeat it too well, but that presumably was due to inexperience.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The arm action is fine,
but he had a ridiculously exaggerated step over and fall off to 1B(reminded me of early Johnny Cueto), he rarely landed in the same spot and his release point was a mess. He was way out of whack at Palm Beach last year, and it showed in his performance. the walks were a result of the delivery, so, delivery = primary concern for me.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
He does fall off to that side,
but I think if anything, the exaggerated step back is more of a concern for repeatability than the step over. That said, neither are much of a problem in my eyes. Just needs more repetitions and added strength.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Well,
primary area of concern doesn’t necessarily equal “problem”. There is some effort in the delivery, he’s well-conditioned but small-ish and the front side was a train wreck at the and of last summer. When I’m a fan of a player I tend to be even more scrupulous and objective in my opinion. He’s not without his flaws, and noting them doesn’t mean I’m worrying about them per se. Whether it’s a fundamental defect or a need for reps, improved delivery is the goal, which is my point.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
he will be a nice pen arm
For stl in a few years.
by St.Steve on May 8, 2025 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Because he’s short? I think he’s a potential frontline starter. He’s having a really impressive year.
by kyuss94 on May 8, 2025 12:38 PM EDT via Android app up reply actions
Relax
St. Steve’s just doing his usual trolling.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Too soon to know
Based on the way he’s been pitching this year, there’s a 5% chance Stl sticks that arm in the pen.
by Woodland League on May 8, 2025 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
just getting kerms' panties in a bunch
I think he will/should start, but I think stl will bring him up via pen first, that’s really all I meant. Lance Lynn style.
by St.Steve on May 8, 2025 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Skaggs
no hitting Jackson.
4IP, 1BB, 4K
and a double to boot! The next Micha Owings I hear…lol
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
only Skaggs can actually pitch well.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 7, 2025 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
There were plenty of Owings fans in 2006 or so.
He made it to AAA before he hit 100 innings in the minors. 99/21 K/BB in 96.1 IP up to that point.
by PissedMick on May 7, 2025 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Owings
i was one of them. he seems to be a guy that was overworked in high school/college and lost a lot of his stuff at an early age.
In 2005 he was a guy with a 95 sinker and a power slider. When he came up in 2007 he was 91-92, the slider regressed, and he was without a true out pitch. When he came back to us in 2011 after a 3 year tour in Cinci he was 87mph throwing everything but the kitchen sink getting by on guile.
by ScottAZ on May 8, 2025 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Had to get 5 outs in the 5th
Error by Davidson at 3B, double, ground out, ground out, strike out dropped third strike (run scores unearned), flyout.
5IP, 1H, 1R, 0BB, 5K 65 pitches
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
you have a report / description handy on the Davidson error?
thanks! (I’m hoping you are listening on the radio a/o taking game notes)
by BigG'S on May 7, 2025 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
7IP, 5H, 0ER, 1BB, 7K
Sorry - no description of the Davidson error…
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops
Didn’t see you already posted this lol
by CaptainCanuck on May 7, 2025 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just went back and watched the inning
The camera man missed the Davidson error but Skaggs looked shocked. The next guy hit a not-so-hard grounder past Davidson as well. His range looks pretty awful.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent outing for Skaggs
7 IP, 5 H, 1 R (unearned), 1 BB, 7 K.
by CaptainCanuck on May 7, 2025 1:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Skaggs' numbers on the year
Are pretty sick:
32.1IP, 30H, 7BB, 43K 3.06ERA. He’s been a little prone to the long ball, but he’s stlll pretty young. In my mind, and based on the strong control numbers, he’s certainly surpassed Bauer on the AZ top 10, only behind Bradley.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
plenty are gonna disagree with your order there
But I’m not one of them.
by St.Steve on May 7, 2025 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I really liked the Bauer hype coming out of college
and his short stint in pro ball looked good, but I was always a big Bauer fan. But it’s close, and it hard not to disagree with those that prefer Bauer. It’s interesting, both big time college arms - Bauer and Hultzen - are struggling with the walks. Skaggs looks comfortable living in the zone and is still getting tons of swings and misses. Tough not to love that from a lefty.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, so here's the thing with Bauer and some other guys "struggling" with K/BB rates.
It’s not all on them.
You know who carries just as much blame?
The home plate umpires.
Just like you might have a player or two in the opposing lineup who may have played Division II or even just high school and has never faced a pitcher of Bauer’s caliber, the same can be said for the umpire.
Look at his numbers.
1.96 ERA, nine earned runs in forty one innings. Despite the 25 walks he’s given up just 27 hits.
Consistent opponent’s average, .192 against lefties and .185 against righties.
More groundballs than fly balls, with just one homer allowed.
That means his ball is moving
Not only do the hitters have problems with deciding balls and strikes, the umpires do to.
A lot of young umpires haven’t yet learned it’s where the ball crosses the plate, not where the catcher receives the ball. I’d be willing to bet Bauer’s hit quite a few corners that have been called balls.
And…the Southern League uses three man umpire crews, which means Bauer gets no help on check swing calls.
His walk rate concerns me not in the slightest.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 7, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
Then could you say the same for Hultzen and Paxton? Seems like some of that has to be on him. Can’t chalk it all up to umps. Anyone with 25 walks this early in the year is struggling with control. Skaggs’ curve ball is a big looping mother, and he’s still not walking as many. Hard to buy the ump argument.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course you can.
I’m not saying its’ all on the umps, that’s silly, but how much better would you like Bauer if he had six fewer walks?
Hultzen’s actually allowed more walks than hits and is averaging more than a strikeout per inning.
Last start he walked seven in four and two thirds, the start before, one in four and a third.
Paxton’s had six starts and has a 5 and 8 walk game, which means in his other four starts, covering 21 innings, he’s walked five.
His walk rate isn’t even worth discussing.
And do you think there’s just a little irony in the fact they all play in the same league?
Manny Banuelos is in his fifth season as a pro and can’t find the strikezone. He’s had all that time working with pro pitching coaches to refine his mechanics or his command enough to be able to throw strikes consistently.
His inability to do so after 400 innings is strictly in his head.
For a guy like Bauer who has 66 pro innings under his belt and to be worried about his command?
Come on, not worth the time.
His biggest concern is how many pairs of socks to pack for a road trip or how to budget his meal money.
He’s putting up solid numbers for a kid with his experience in an advanced league, his walk rate is irrelevant.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 7, 2025 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, if I read you right
and I’m not trying to say you’re wrong, but bc of Paxton’s couple of starts with high walks - much like Bauer - you’re inclined to look to other factors other than a lack of control that night? Same with Hultzen? So other than those few games, which may be due to a few bum umps in the SOU, they have had little-to-no control issues this year?
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes..there are always other factors.
You just can’t look at a guy’s walk rate and think he’s overrated.
Bauer’s WHIP is pretty high…1.26..yet he’s only allowed 8 ER all year.
His GB rate isn’t all that great, so it’s not like he can throw a DP whenever he wants.
He’s playing AA, so it’s not like he can rely too much on his defense.
So the difference is he’s getting a lot of 2-2 or 3-2 counts and he’s throwing the same stuff then as he did 2-1 or 3-1, it’s just the hitter is forced to protect.
You can’t possibly put up the other numbers he does with the H/IP or K/9 rate he does and point to control as the problem.
Yes, Bauer has a unique delivery with a lot of moving parts and it’s naturally harder for him to stay in sequence pitch by pitch, but you can’t have his other numbers and point to one thing and say it’s strictly control.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 7, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually have no problem with the delivery
I tend to think he knows what he’s doing when he’s been doing it for so long. but Bauers steady 3-6 walks per outing tend to worry me more than the occasional walk-fest from Paxon, or the one 7BB outing from Hultzen. MiLB is tough to follo - maybe the conditions were poor than day, bad landing area or mound, etc. It’s still early no doubt. But Bauer can’t seem to get through a start with 0-1 walks. It’ll probably start happening, but he’s got more a red flag to me than Hultzen. Paxton still has something to prove leftover from last year too. I’m gonna hold off on holding the umps culpable though, but I’d love to see some video if you ever catch some.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Walks are a result of control and command
Command is on the pitcher, control isn’t, at least not always.
How many times have you watched a ML game on TV and have seen a pitch hit the “K Zone” and the umpire call it a ball, or even vice versa?
Multiply that by ten in Double A.
That’s all I’m saying.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 7, 2025 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, I disagree
Pitchers adapt to different strike zones every day.
If Bauer has such great moving stuff that makes it difficult for umpires then wouldn’t he be able to throw it more in the zone?
Also, do you realize that moving stuff can also help you get strike calls you shouldn’t? If the umpire isn’t seeing the late hard movement then they will call based on where the ball was before. This is why some of the hard late breaking curves that drop for strikes dont get called. It’s also why some of those same pitches that drop below the zone do get called for strikes when they shouldn’t.
I disagree with your premise. If I had to guess Bauer is trying to hard to strike everyone out. He will adjust.
Personally when I see numbers like his I don’t worry about the walks and don’t give credit for all the K’s. I will just wait until he changes his approach, it will come, and see how he fares when he lives in the zone more often.
by pedrophile on May 8, 2025 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
"sorry, I disagree"
Which is fine.
We’re not trying to reinvent the wheel here, just throwing out ideas.
It happens, that’s a fact, to what extent no one knows.
But it does happen.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 8, 2025 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I do remember
observers saying that Kerry Wood’s Triple-A walk totals were signficantly inflated due to umpires’ inability to call his curve for strikes, though I’m not sure this was borne out by his major league walk totals. BTW, just went back and looked at his Age 21 season. ha ha ha ha ha…uh, wow.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah... he was... pretty good.
Depressing to look at that stuff as a Cubs fan.
by bdlugz on May 8, 2025 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It is depressing
that you guys didn’t win during the Wood/Prior era. I’m a Reds fan and even I was pulling for CHC back then.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
re: "Just throwing out ideas"
Actually, you sounded very assertive and sure that this was the case. If I were to re-read this thread, I would interpret your comments in a very different light if I had seen they were merely a hypothesis. As it was, it seemed like a difficult-to-defend insistence.
by siddfynch on May 9, 2025 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like Bauer has the best stuff any ump has ever seen in AA...
He may not even have the best stuff on his own team.
He’s an incredible pitcher, but I think it’s really a stretch to blame the ump for 25 walks… maybe a couple can be attributed to that, but these umps are better than you’re giving them credit for.
by bdlugz on May 7, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Bauer has the best stuff on his own team
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by mrkupe on May 7, 2025 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Overall yes, I wont really try to debate that.
But although he’s great, it’s not like he’s a once in a generation talent that the umps can’t get a read on.
by bdlugz on May 7, 2025 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he was just a curve ball artist?
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-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
92-95 with the FB,
and he throws a 2-seamer as well. The change and self-anointed “reverse” slider are also avg to above pitches. Plus velo and at least five pitches.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks (sarcasm)
There was a bit of an inside joke/jab in my comment that you missed. I’m well versed on Bauer.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
is it a joke or a jab?
If it’s a joke, cool.
If it’s a jab, whatever, who knows what I did to you. But I’m glad you let that out after about 10 months, it must have been killing you.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was killing me
It took 300 some odd days to finally have the opportunity to throw that back in your face.
It was a joke/jab, not a jab/joke. You’ll be fine.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad,
Just noticed you haven’t been a member here for very long.
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/7/12/2271866/bas-midseason-top-50-with-new-draftees#71745812
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-Frank Sinatra
by Kerm on May 8, 2025 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah. Gotcha.
hadn’t seen you around in awhile and I should have remembered that you actually have a sense of humor, unlike so many.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
How would you even know that?
AA umpires are young and inexperienced too.
It’s not like you can be there for 10 years, if you can ‘t cut it, you’re gone.
Unfortunately, the minor league umpiring system is much better than the major league system.
In the minors, there’s no such thing as a “job for life”.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 7, 2025 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty safe to assume every ump that Bauer has had this year is inexperienced
You ask how I even know that? How do you know enough to make a claim like that? You’re the one making a massive assumption and blaming a lot of this on the umpires, which really isn’t fair in my opinion.
by bdlugz on May 7, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
but torres has had forever and a half
That guy isn’t changing.
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by mrkupe on May 7, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I hardly consider Torres a prospect at this point.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 8, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
He fits your description.
Doesn’t give up hits, gets groundballs, strkes out batters, has stuff that moves like crazy. I think it is fair, as you said, the blame his control problems on some umpires, right?
by mr. maniac on May 8, 2025 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the comments in principle
After all, Kershaw had huge BB concerns when he was skyrocketing through the minors. The MiLB umps just had no clue how to call his curve.
That being said, would you agree that umpiring at the AA level is better than umpiring in college? And if that is the case, why is Bauer now having more issues with walks? Could it just be that he is facing more patient hitters, and the AA hitters are not swinging at pitches in the dirt that college hitters would whiff at on a regular basis?
This is my way of saying I agree with the premise, but I disagree that this is a complete non-concern. It looks to me like Bauer just needs to make the adjustment in his sequencing.
by guru4u on May 8, 2025 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Did MiLB umps have no clue how to call his curve either?
Because the problem certainly didn’t get a whole lot better once he got in front of MLB umps. I think the bigger issue is that it is simply hard to get called strikes on slower curves in professional baseball. Is it really a surprise that Kershaw’s BB rate suddenly stopped falling once he replaced the curve as his primary breaking pitch with the slider?
by nixa37 on May 8, 2025 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
"Could it just be that he is facing more patient hitters"
I think that would be the premise. One of my reservations about Bauer — and before the kvetching starts I like him — was that I saw college batters swinging at pitches out of the zone that I expected advanced hitters to lay off. That and the number of high FBs and the so-so command of that pitch were pretty much my only reservations I guess.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
walks are the norm for young pitchers
i’m optimistic that Bauer will figure it out eventually
Skaggs’s numbers are definitely monstrous, and i think he probably has a higher floor than any other prospect in our system….but i’d still take Bauer’s ceiling over Skaggs’s
we’ll see. apparently Skaggs said he had his changeup working very well in this outing. if that can happen consistently, then he will be a monster.
by blue bulldog on May 8, 2025 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilmer Flores went 3-4 with a HR today
He’s now .314/.345/.505 on the year.
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by Russ on May 7, 2025 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
I picked this guy up really cheap in one of my leagues
hopefully he taps into that raw potential
Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
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by mathisrocks5 on May 7, 2025 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nestor Molina Promoted
Makes his AAA debut for Charlotte tonight.
by ajake57 on May 7, 2025 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Why?
He hasn’t been very good in Birmingham. Why promote him?
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by criminal type on May 8, 2025 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Took the place of Quintana
Who was promoted for the Sox DH yesterday. Not sure if Molina is going to stay there or not, but they had to get somebody up, and it was his turn, so it makes sense.
Molina, for the record, got pounded.
4 IP 9 H 6 R (6ER) 2 HR 1 BB 4 K
by ajake57 on May 8, 2025 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyrell Jenkins
6IP 4H 2ER 4BB(Only real blemish, but hey he’s only 19)10 K’s.
by CoolCat23 on May 7, 2025 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
Jenkins and Martinez were both supposed to pitch yesterday....
But didn’t I guess because of previous weather rain outs?
C-Mart and Jenkins makes for a fun pair to follow in Cards system for a long time.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 7, 2025 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
starting to really like this guy
Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
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by mathisrocks5 on May 7, 2025 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The efficient Martin Perez showed up today
7 IP | 4 H | 1 R | 1 BB | 4 K | 86 pitches, 60 strikes.
dunno if he’s done yet
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by MonkeyEpoxy on May 7, 2025 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, he's done
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by MonkeyEpoxy on May 7, 2025 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
he's on fire, and Lakeland has such a sick lineup...
Tyler Collins, Castellanos, Avisail Garcia, Dixon Machado, James McCann….
Westlake must be in single A ?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 7, 2025 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
23 year old Westlake is hitting .223/.302/.321 in the Midwest League
:(
by mrkupe on May 7, 2025 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
o0
Ooo thanks Kupe for that one, that suprises me, he better pick it up.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 7, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Arenado
if someone spots this kids power please hit the alarm button
by High Heater on May 7, 2025 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
Wilmer Flores
3-4, HR.
Salvaging his (nearly) lost prospect status? Third year in the FSL, but still just 20 (turns 21 in August).
His YTD line is 314/345/505 per MiLB.com. Anybody seen him this year or have a recent report?
by FI2 on May 7, 2025 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
look who got called up
The Denver Post reported on Monday that Rockies pitcher Christian Friedrich will be called up from Triple-A Colorado Spring to start Wednesday’s series finale against the Padres. Friedrich has gone 2-1 with a 3.00 ERA in five starts for the Sky Sox this season. 27-to-4 strikeout-to-walk ratio
Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
If you didn't know by now, my screen name is sarcastic
by mathisrocks5 on May 7, 2025 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
White is getting called up to start Tuesday too
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
as a long time friedrich fan
I’m intrigued to see how he looks. I still remember his start at the end of last spring when he 1 hit the rox opening day lineup in Colo. Walked the first two and then gave up like nothing the.rest of the way with 10+ k…might as well see how he responds, that rotation is terrible.
by St.Steve on May 7, 2025 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
EKU Colonels represent
Yessir.
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by criminal type on May 8, 2025 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad Bettis
Anyone know what is going on with him? Stopped posting on Twitter/Facebook, mention of an MRI a few weeks ago and now nothing….anyone have any news?
by Ralpho316 on May 7, 2025 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
bundy
2 ip 1h 5k
Nothing to see here folks
by davetrembling on May 7, 2025 7:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what the hell
the box score says bundy gave up an earned run. here is how the run scored:
batter strikes out swingin on a wild pitch by bundy. then a throwing error by the catcher, then a throwing error by the cf, runn scores. bundy then strikes out the next hitter, end of inning. please tell me, how the hell is that an earned run?!
by rangersfan24 on May 7, 2025 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
never mind
box score corrected. man i was cursing up a storm
btw, id love to see the pitch that struck a guy out but was off enough to be a wild pitch. that must have been one nasty pitch
by rangersfan24 on May 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
This is great. Bundy is going to be this site’s sacred cow. Curse the man that drives in the first run against him.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i refuse to believe
that bundy will give up a single earned run in his entire professional career
in all seriousness, i was more amazed that somehow that mess resulted in what an official considered to be an earned run. i was really beginnin to doubt my baseball smarts. i have a feeling when he finally does give up an earned run, it’s gonna be on a night where he is just way off and prob gives up 4 or 5, not just one. either that or it will be in his double A debut once the orioles figure out that’s where he belongs. A-ball hitters just dont stand a chance against him
by rangersfan24 on May 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Last time this site had a sacred cow
His name was Lincecum. That one turned out pretty good :)
by guru4u on May 8, 2025 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I'm on board
Didn’t mean it as a knock. Bundy-Myers 2012. Hope, Change ups and Bombs!
by Woodland League on May 8, 2025 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
final line
3 ip 1h 1r (unearned) 0bb 8k…… 61pitches 40strikes
by bluechipper on May 7, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Gunning for that #1 Spot
Just silly PWR numbers to start the year
by BigG'S on May 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT via Android app up reply actions
i think Bundy and Myers at least have something to say about that....
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 7, 2025 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And Profar, Walker, etc...
There’s going to be some tough competition for that #1 spot.
by bdlugz on May 7, 2025 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
my top-10 as of right now
1. Dylan Bundy — until he gives up a run ;)
2. Jurickson Profar
3. Miguel Sano
4. Manny Machado
5. Taijuan Walker
6. Oscar Taveras - I’ve got a fever and the only prescription is more OT
7. Will Myers
8. Anthony Rendon — sure some will have a problem with this one but there is too much talent IMO despite the injury
9. Francisco Lindor
10. Archie Bradley
Just missed — Trevor Bauer, Nolan Arenado, Zach Wheeler, Tyler Skaggs, Bubba Starling
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm doubting you'd get too many arguments here
Just never show that list to a Pirates fan
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
These will probably shift a lot even before midseason
Bogaerts could be in my top-10 by season’s end too
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
OK
Gerrit Cole gets an honorable mention too in case any Bucs fans see this
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Taillon
might be the one deserving the HM, actually.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
+1, at least.
If I had to plug him into the list above, it would be in the 6-8 range.
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by Kerm on May 8, 2025 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm waiting to see if he does this for 10-12 starts,
but he’s looking great for a 20-year-old in the FSL. I’d figured him for the Shelby Miller path, making some Double-A starts this year if he keeps showing well, though I’d be surprised if it was as few as Miller had. Had to look it up and he only made nine appearances at Palm Beach before heading to Springfield. That makes all the “fatigue” where he’s concerned even funnier. He’s absolutely rocketed through the minors, so my expectations for Taillon following that road map are almost certainly not going to be met considering how he was babied last year.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Cole is on your list and Taillon isn't?
by mlbprospectpulse on May 8, 2025 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Cole will make a nice pen arm for the Bucs in a few years.
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by Kerm on May 8, 2025 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i have actually heard someone else proclaim that
During your hiatus, hmmm.
by St.Steve on May 8, 2025 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't take
all this sexual tension, you two. Just do it already.
by charles wallace on May 8, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Taillon has been in pro ball too long
he is getting too old for the top 10!
by huztler on May 8, 2025 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not digging Bradley or Starling quite that high yet.
or for that matter Sano.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 8, 2025 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It is an aggressive ranking of Bradley
but I feel like his ceiling is higher than Miller and Teheran at this point. Starling is currently 15 on my list, possibly far too high but he’s also someone with the potential to be #1 on this list at some point.
I’m really interested to see where people have Jorge Soler. He’s probably the one I’ve struggled most with placing as I’ve been moving people around on my list lately.
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
"I feel like his ceiling is higher than Miller and Teheran at this point"
Well what reason is there for believing that other than SNTS? Both Teheran and Miller were more dominant in low-A at 19 years old than Bradley has been thus far. I see nothing in his current scouting report that makes me think his current stuff is any better than those two. Basically, Bradley hasn’t struggled because he hasn’t been pushed, so you now think he’s better than guys who have actually been pushed despite the fact that they were better at the same level and age and have at least comparable stuff.
by nixa37 on May 8, 2025 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i'd take Teheran over Bradley
but upside-wise, i think Bradley probably has higher upside than Teheran
i don’t think Teheran’s upside is a consistent top 10 pitcher in baseball…
by blue bulldog on May 8, 2025 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
This gets into the whole age automatically equals upside debate
I just don’t see much reason to think Bradley has more upside at this point based on anything other than age. He doesn’t have a significant stuff advantage over either guy, he has less projectability left in his body, and he’s behind where they were at the same age.
I mean I don’t think either Teheran or Bradley has a chance of becoming a top 10 pitcher in baseball without significant improvement in their stuff and/or command. I also don’t see a reason to think Bradley is a much better bet to improve in either category than Teheran is.
by nixa37 on May 8, 2025 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It does.
It shouldn’t but it does. Everyone becomes human at some point. When you are mowing down 18-year olds and guys with zero prospect status, the sky is the limit. When you actually start facing talent-appropriate competition, people start to knock you down. It is also funny that everyone’s secondary pitches go from plus to average or less as they climb the ladder. Plus-plus power projection becomes average and so on… When guys are in A ball or lower there are only a handful of scouting reports and mostly accounts of die-hard fans. As guys get older scouting reports become accurate, hence upside declines.
by huztler on May 8, 2025 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i just thought from a traditional scouting perspective
that pitchers like Miller/Bradley are supposed to have the edge on a pitcher like Teheran. power curveball with a mid-to-high 90’s fastball right? with a good pitcher’s frame? athleticism on the mound? yadayadayada….
my comment about upside had nothing to do with age
also, as a side note, you should know by now that i’ve always felt guys like Teheran/Delgado are overrated relative to guys like Minor/Beachy (not that Bradley is anything like Minor/Beachy…..but just as a partial explanation for why i might appear more bearish on Teheran than others)
by blue bulldog on May 8, 2025 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused
Yes, scouts like high velocity guys better than lower velocity guys. I’m not sure what this has to do with this discussion as all 3 are big velocity guys. That was Teheran’s whole calling card in his early days as a prospect. His average velocity in the majors last season was 93 last season and he touched as high as 95-96. I don’t see Miller or Bradley having a real advantage in that department.
As far as scouts loving power curves, that seems like a completely personal and/or organizational thing. Some scouts and teams love change ups, while some love power curves (some love sinkers, some probably cutters, etc.). I don’t think there is any actual reason to think one is universally preferred over the other. Elite change ups still get elite whiff rates for any secondary and they aren’t subject to the same sort of platoon split issues as breaking balls.
As far as frame and athleticism, I’m not sure I see the advantage for Bradley here in terms of ceiling. I think he pretty clearly has the least room for projection left on his frame. He’s already pretty much maxed out at 6’4" 225 pounds, compared to 6’3" 195 lb Miller and 6’2" 175 lb Teheran. As for athleticism, I think that is pretty clearly Teheran’s biggest advantage here. Is there any real question that he is the better athlete than Bradley? I’d argue that Teheran is one of the more athletically gifted pitchers in baseball right now.
I realize where you stand on K rates and why that might lead to prefer Minor/Beachy to Teheran/Delgado, but I don’t see how that is at all relevant to a discussion of Bradley’s upside versus that of Miller and Teheran. Like I said, he’s behind where they were at the same age. At his age, Teheran struck out 10.3 per 9 in low A and 10.8 per 9 in high A. Miller struck out 12.1 per 9 in low A. Bradley is currently sitting at 9.9 in low A. How does that at all support Bradley having the higher ceiling? Just because he hasn’t had the chance to face more advanced hitting and see his K rate drop yet or something?
I’m just trying to understand your argument for Bradley having a higher ceiling than Teheran and Miller that isn’t based on age and/or SNTS. What does he have on those guys right now other than those 2 things?
by nixa37 on May 8, 2025 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
my impression
and of course this might be wrong
is that Bradley/Miller are expected to have better velo than Teheran if/when they are all in the majors
as for changeups v. curveballs, i don’t even disagree with you. personally, i prefer elite changeups to elite curveballs. my impression though, has always been that scouts prefer their pitching prospects to have a great breaking ball, as opposed to a great changeup. maybe it’s because they think the changeup is easier to develop. i don’t know.
maybe i’ve just been skewed by what i’ve read recently at BA. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2012/2613349.html
my impression has just been that recently, scouts have downgraded Teheran’s upside, whereas everything i’ve heard about Bradley has been positive.
as for strikeouts, Bradley is projected to strikeout a lot of guys as he moves up. i’ll downgrade him accordingly if/when he doesn’t…but until then i can only trust the projection right? so yeah, exactly. he hasn’t had the chance to face more advanced hitting yet and see his K rate drop. if/when that happens, i’ll downgrade his ceiling accordingly.
finally, i never claimed Bradley had a higher ceiling than Miller.
by blue bulldog on May 8, 2025 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if the upside is "downgraded" so much as it comes into focus
I suppose this is only logical. When a player is younger, facing less competition, and less is known, the range of reasonable potential outcomes is much broader.
This happens all the time with pitching prospects.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this
a much a more concise version of what i was somewhat trying to get at
by blue bulldog on May 9, 2025 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
But the upside hasn't actually changed
I think this is why most of us stick to “realistic ceiling” instead of “ultimate, perfect world ceiling.” Teheran’s realistic ceiling is no lower now than it was in low A, especially not because his strike out rate has gone down. He still has the same tools/skills/stuff that he did back then. While it may be harder to dream on him now that he’s in AAA, the ceiling is the same. I simply don’t see an advantage for Bradley in terms of tools/skills/stuff that makes his realistic ceiling any higher. It just happens to be a heck of a lot easier to dream on Bradley right now since he hasn’t actually been challenged yet.
by nixa37 on May 9, 2025 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yes it has
imagine two distribution curves, one with wider tails but a narrower middle (Bradley) and one with narrower tails but a wider middle (Teheran)
as i’ve said recently, ceiling is simply a concept where you create some arbitrary line of like, each individual’s top 5 percentile outcome
you integrate the distribution curve to figure out at which point along the high tail that you get the top 5 percentile, and whichever prospect has the higher outcome at that point has the higher ceiling
this is a basic mathematical explanation of what everyone on this site talks about with “ceiling”
in fact, this is exactly what “realistic ceiling” is instead of “ultimate perfect world ceiling” (which would entail going to the infinitesimally small end of the upper tail)
by blue bulldog on May 9, 2025 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Has he changed as player?
Basically have his skills/tools/stuff changed in a significant way? Because if they haven’t, his ceiling hasn’t changed. You can go into an esoteric statistical argument if you like, but it isn’t addressing the fundamental difference in our opinions. To use your example, you seem to think that the tails of Teheran’s distribution curve have somehow been altered because of his performance in the upper levels. I on the other hand, only think the skew and/or density function of the distribution have changed, while the realistic ceiling has not.
Personally, I hate your definition of ceiling, and this is coming from a huge math geek. I don’t think realistic ceiling has anything to do with a top X% outcome for a player. I think it is entirely based on their tools/skills/stuff/etc. I don’t think all players have similar chances of reaching or surpassing their realistic ceiling. I just don’t think you can try and simplify it into the sort of mathematical model you’re using.
by nixa37 on May 9, 2025 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
upside is not real
it is whatever people say it is. It means nothing. We just talk about it here to argue with each other. Nobody here has a crystal ball.
by huztler on May 9, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure where that impression on velocity would come from
Other than of course age and/or SNTS. Teheran has always been a big velocity guy. It is the reason he was already rated #51 by BA before his age 21 season despite the fact he had no real curve and a mediocre at best change. This gets into Hultzer’s point. Right now, you’ve only heard the rosiest of reports on Bradley because not many people have seen him live. With Teheran you know exactly what you’re getting velocity wise because everyone’s seen him and we have pitch f/x data. When he was down in low A though, you better believe he was talked about as sitting mid 90s and touching higher. That’s just the nature of low minors scouting reports and the prospecting industry.
I’ve honestly never noticed scouts placing significantly more emphasis on breaking balls than change ups. If anything, I’d argue a breaking ball is easier to develop. I’m almost with Keith Law, where if I was advising a high school prospect with an elite arm, I’d suggest not focusing on a breaking ball until you senior season at the earliest, so take my opinion FWIW.
As for the BA mention of Teheran, I’m not surprised that a scout seeing him now would be down on him and think he isn’t progressing. He hasn’t been the same pitcher since August of last year. I don’t know if its a slight timing problem, an injury problem (he missed time in ST with elbow pain which is what really decided the race between him and Delgado), or what, but it is certainly a concern. It doesn’t actually affect my view of his ceiling however, it just affects how I view his riskiness.
On strikeouts, Teheran was projected to strike out a lot of guys as he moved up too. He also struck out more guys at the same age at a higher level. This is my whole point about age and SNTS. Teheran’s ceiling is no lower now than it was when he was in low-A, despite the fact his strikeouts have dropped. That’s just not how I view ceiling. Ceiling is a function of tools and skills, not a function of stats.
by nixa37 on May 8, 2025 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
On Bradley v. Miller
I got confused because the guy I initially responded to brought him up as having a lower ceiling than Bradley (which to be fair is a big part of what my initial post was aimed at) and then you brought him back up in your response to me about Teheran.
by nixa37 on May 8, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
and the Minor/Beachy v. Teheran/Delgado comment was simply to explain that i’ve always been relatively low on Teheran, and that may influence my relative assessment of their ceilings
by blue bulldog on May 8, 2025 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Sano, too ..
… but I’m not sure he’s that high for me. Bundy is far more filthy.
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by criminal type on May 8, 2025 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, one other thing
Can I presume you’re not happy with Shelby Miller or Julio Teheran?
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I love Shelby
and I’m sure he’ll be a great pitcher in the Majors but I’m not really sold on him being an ace. I could certainly be wrong about that.
I don’t love Teheran, I don’t think he’ll be an ace but like Shelby he clearly still projects to be a good MLB starter.
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
ah, okay
I think there’s a lot of fatigue setting in with both, and some are staying on board and some are getting off. I can’t blame either side. More experience tends to make what these players really are in the end come into focus, and sometimes these guys just don’t stand out when facing higher level competition (especially AAA, where most everybody is competent). And then on the other side, both are 21 years old. Neither of them are supposed to have the consistency expected of older players. “Could” still takes precedence over “is”. Very tough decisions on both.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Great performance in Daytona tonight
Jokisch went 7IP, 4H, 11K
Szczur also had a great night going 3-4, 2B
by bdlugz on May 7, 2025 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Gary Sanchez
Left game, it appears with an injury, after he got CS.
3-4 2B before being taken out.
Anyone that can pass on any news on the injury is appreciated.
by BryceHarper on May 7, 2025 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
can't find anything yet
though he was the first guy to have an xbh hit off Bundy, 90mph change up…
by hybrid on May 8, 2025 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG.....I'm scared of him now, literally, Wil Myers, Bryce Harper, Mike Trout scary trio
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 7, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a hint of that feeling a few years ago when Mike Stanton would hit one like every other night
I’m not saying Myers = Stanton…he’s just on one of those crazy runs right now! Fun to watch.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting comparison, though
Would you take today’s Myers or Stanton from a couple of years back?
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by mrkupe on May 7, 2025 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
tough
i didn’t fall for giancarlo til i saw him regualrly in mlb. i’ve loved myers since he was drafted.
by daveh33 on May 7, 2025 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I would - but I'd expect different things
I just would value Myers’ more complete package more than Stanton’s raw power.
by Woodland League on May 7, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
complete package
Stanton is pretty solid defensively by visually and by UZR. 4.5 win player in his 21-year-old season in MLB.
by richieabernathy on May 8, 2025 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
idk bout easy
Stanton was striking out more, but that could have been on some bad strike 3 calls by umps ;)
by St.Steve on May 7, 2025 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This
I’m sure the umps had never seen someone with the plate coverage of Stanton, and had to call bad K’s for the sake of fairness.
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by Kerm on May 8, 2025 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Stanton
is only 1 year and 1 month older than Wil Myers. He was rushed obviously (zero career Triple-A games) but already has hit 62 career MLB bombs and has a .862 career ops. I forget how young Giancarlo is sometimes. Pretty impressive.
by richieabernathy on May 8, 2025 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Giancarlo for shizzle
They’re not that different in age as of now.
by Matt0330 on May 8, 2025 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I assume given that we don't know what happens to Stanton the last 2 years
I would have easily taken Myers. Even with the changed approach, Myers has displayed more patience than Stanton had at that point. I was very cautious with Stanton - mainly because we had never seen a prospect like him before. I really thought the K’s would catch up to him. I was clearly wrong.
by guru4u on May 8, 2025 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Myers bomb
Again today, Tuesday. #11 in the year. Someone start the daily Wil Myers HR thread!
by Woodland League on May 8, 2025 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well... he certainly answered the question on his power potential...
by bdlugz on May 8, 2025 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
because a quarter of a season answers a lot of questions authoritatively.
by huztler on May 9, 2025 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Also worth noting that OT is back in the line up today after his knee injury and went 2-4
Good to see that he didn’t get seriously hurt from that collision.
by bdlugz on May 8, 2025 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
video of Myers' HR
good to see him turn on the low insde fastball
by Woodland League on May 8, 2025 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Folty
6 IP, 5 H [3 2B], ER, 4 BB, 4 K .. 7-4 GO/FO … not bad considering he’s facing a pretty good lineup.
same game:
T Story / 2-3, 2B, BB
Swanner / 1-3, HR, BB
by daveh33 on May 7, 2025 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Syndergaard 3 IP, 2 H, ER, BB, 3 K, 4-2 GO/FO
DeSclafani 4 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, BB, 5 K, 6-1 GO/FO
by Waveburner on May 7, 2025 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
Must suck
to be facing Lansing. On any given night it’s several innings each of Sanchez and Nicolino or Syndergaard and DeSclafani.
by charles wallace on May 7, 2025 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Stilson
4 IP, 5 H, 3R/0ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 3-5 GO/FO
by Waveburner on May 7, 2025 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Evan Gattis
1 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 BB
4th HR in 7 games at AA
by Mashi139 on May 7, 2025 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
best case scenario, who does this guy end up resembling?
is the sky the limit here, or is everyone all excited because he’s gone from having no career to a shot at being a solid team’s 4th OF?
by Lucretius on May 8, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that's the thing: No one knows.
Prospecting isn’t necessarily all about comparables, but we do try to match prospects up to particular paths of development. Who else has ever had Gattis’ path? Josh Hamilton? Obviously that doesn’t work, tools-wise. Is there literally ANYONE else you can come up with who spent so much time away from the game, and came back mashing?
by PissedMick on May 8, 2025 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
good point. my comp is
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I like it.
I mean maybe there are dozens of guys who have come back after long layoffs and hit, but they flame out and we don’t remember them. It’s possible (much more possible than Gattis being another Hamilton). I just can’t come up with any. Especially not any that have hit like Gattis.
I don’t know if that means he can hit big league pitching or not. It’s impossibly hard to do even if you spend most of your life getting ready for it. That said, he’s clearly a special case already, and I’m trying not to manage my expectations just because I don’t know what else to do with him.
by PissedMick on May 8, 2025 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I think
Ankiel is probably the best comp as a guy who came back as a hitter in his late 20s and earned his way back into the majors (and had a respectable career).
by ADLC on May 8, 2025 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Middlebrooks 2 HRs today and a double
Not exactly facing Pedro but still impressive
Brandon Jacobs of Lowell > Brandon Jacobs of NYG
by Lesterfan on May 7, 2025 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
off-topic but Giancarlo's broken bat laser tonight
…was ridiculous. dude is just so scrong
by daveh33 on May 7, 2025 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
I've seen scronger
(Are we at the point of diminishing returns yet?)
by Matt0330 on May 8, 2025 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a scrong chance we are well beyond that point.
by bdlugz on May 8, 2025 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what will happen when Stanton faces off against "big and scrong" Deck McGuire?
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Gose goes deep back to back games
Gose 2-5, HR (2)
Also at Vegas:
Hechavarria 2-4, BB
d’Arnaud 2-4, 2B, BB
Cooper 1-5, K
Sierra 3-4, HR (6), SB (1)
by Waveburner on May 7, 2025 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Josh Sale in his 3rd game at BG
2-3 2B K
Same game
Tyler Goeddel 1-2 BB K
No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.
by thedudeofdudes on May 7, 2025 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
Nice
to see Sale get off to a solid start in A ball. 3 hits and 2 walks through 10 PA’s.
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
He was clearly a major disappointment last year
But he didn’t strikeout at a high rate and his BB% was solid. If the power shows up he could really make a big jump back onto the prospect radar.
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Gary Brown
1-5, K
Off to a really disappointing start — .242, 0 HR
by sethbeno on May 8, 2025 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
Donn Roach's first start with the Storm:
5IP 2H 0R 1BB 6K
6 GO-1AO
Not bad at all.
by walnut falcons on May 8, 2025 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
Profar
1-3, 2B, BB, K
hitting streak extended to 18 games and he’s reached base in every game but 2 this year
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on May 8, 2025 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Justin Grimm
6 IP | 3 H | 1 ER | 1 BB | 5 K
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on May 8, 2025 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
Jaff Decker
After a real hot spring training off to terrible start, has anyone seen him? Is it more of the same problem (too patient)?
by gobruins12345 on May 8, 2025 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
I've only seen a couple of games.
He was hitting line drives, just right at OF’s. There’s probably some horrible luck involved, but I can’t shake the feeling that if he had a little more power this might not be happening. Maybe his shoulder is hurting him or something. I’m still observing, maybe I’ll see something I can pass on later.
"When you find your way. Then you see it disappear."
by padmadfan on May 8, 2025 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I think there's gotta be an injury, although his tendencies probably don't help
He’s a pretty strong dude, either his swing is completely messed up or he’s hurt.
Very unfortunate as this was a pretty big year for him.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, He's got pop, I'm just not seeing it.
3 more line outs. I’m watching tonight’s game to see what they looked like.
"When you find your way. Then you see it disappear."
by padmadfan on May 8, 2025 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks more like he's getting under everything. I'd go with the swings messed up theory
Or he’s trying too hard to hit home runs.
"When you find your way. Then you see it disappear."
by padmadfan on May 8, 2025 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Garin Cecchini
after a slow start Cecchini is starting to hit.
today- 3/5 with 2 doubles and a tripple, 1k
last 7 games- 11/28, 5doubles, 1 triple 1bb, 4k raising his season average to .290/.350/.402
on the downside still no home runs from him, and his 8bb:24k is a bit disappointing.
by bk11 on May 8, 2025 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
since complaining about Cowart's lack of HRs a couple of nights ago
he has hit two including one tonight for his fifth of the year. He’s still very flawed, but it’s been nice to see him do something valuable without striking out
I’m also unhappy about the Angels’ lack of WS championships and the lack of money in my bank account
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on May 8, 2025 1:17 AM EDT reply actions
oh and word on the street
Richards did not pitch today because he is traveling with the team in case Downs officially enters the DL
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on May 8, 2025 1:33 AM EDT reply actions
Juan Oramas isn't dead yet
April line:
5 starts, 15.1 IP, 23H, 19ER, 14BB
2 starts, 15 IP 9H 2ER, 2BB
I love baseball.
by realitypolice on May 8, 2025 6:53 AM EDT reply actions
Cory Spangenberg, professional hitter
It’s been a while since I broke that out, but why not?
2-for-4 with 2 doubles. After an ice cold start, he’s back to what he does…
last 10: 415/429/561
by realitypolice on May 8, 2025 6:56 AM EDT reply actions
Some guys
Matt Davidson - 1/3, 2B, BB (About the only one of my ‘prospect circle of trust’ - dudes that I felt like I was higher on than the general consensus & blabbed about - that’s really hit the ground running this April/early May & practically force people to reassess their perceptions of him besides OT of course. I still like Davidson more than Nick Castellanos)
Marcell Ozuna - 1/4 with his seventh HR, 2K.
Mike Mahtook - 2/4, RBI. Of course it is early, but I felt he would be shining in the FSL at this point. Obviously, he really hasn’t.
Alex Dickerson - 3/6, 2B, 3 RBI
Corey Dickerson - 4/5, 3B, R, 4 RBI (yea, friendly environs throughout & he’s almost 23, but I think there’s something of substance here)
Eric Dickerson - Just kidding.
Taylor Lindsey - 1/4, 2 R
by Matt0330 on May 8, 2025 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
Mahtook
I’m really pulling for him, but his performance isn’t terrible. Just not great. He needs to find more hit,s but his B% and K% are great. He still has speed and good D. Arm, I imagine, is still just OK. I’d be interested to get the take of a FSL scout that’s seen him a few times and see if he’s driving the ball at all. Basing a guy’s power potential from playing the FSL is tough, but he needs at least a dinger or two to his name.
by Woodland League on May 8, 2025 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
matt davidson
would you rather own Davidson or Gattis at this point?
by Rupert Pupkin on May 8, 2025 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Davidson
and it’s not even remotely close
by blue bulldog on May 8, 2025 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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