MiLB 5/18

Hopefully Tyler Anderson has a better start this time out

by RynoRooter on May 18, 2025 1:53 PM EDT reply actions

here ya go

7 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm interested to see if Andrew Carraway can repeat his performance from his first AAA start

by bp42810 on May 18, 2025 3:10 PM EDT reply actions

Not bad.

But 2 K to 3 BB isn’t exactly the most promising.

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions

Hard to follow up on being perfect through 6 like his previous start

However, he looks promising. I hope he gets a look later this year. He seems to be capable of competing with Erasmo, Beavan, and Noesi for playing time as a backend starter in the Ms rotation.
After 2 starts for Tacoma, he now has:
14.1 IP, 6H, 2ER, 4BB, 6K

by bp42810 on May 19, 2025 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions

We should have posts about the BA Hot Sheet too

I’m too incompetent to do that, but if somebody else is interested, that would be cool

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by OldProspects on May 18, 2025 3:46 PM EDT reply actions

Good to see Biddle get a nod

He’s still a year young for his league, and the BB% is dropping without sacrificing K% or H/9.

Barnes is just nasty - good to see BA take notice. AA might be calling soon in June.

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

yordy getting sum love from BA

Little dude with big time stuff!

by St.Steve on May 18, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Rizzo

Is he going to be at least an average major-league guy? I’ve never been a fan.

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by criminal type on May 18, 2025 5:40 PM EDT reply actions

Should be

He should be an average regular 1B with a chance to be a star. It’s possible he might never hit for AVG but he should at least provide the HR power you expect from 1B.

by sethbeno on May 18, 2025 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

really?

In that park? What about his previous MLB experience?

by richieabernathy on May 18, 2025 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

really?

What do you mean “in that park?” better or worse?

by gghulsebus on May 18, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

worst case...

Carlos Pena

by noelman31 on May 19, 2025 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Carlos Pena has had some kinda good seasons that would be way better than most anybody's "worst case"

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Very true

Worst case would be for him to come up and do what he has already done at the MLB level then get sent down and stay there. Nobody has a worst case of an occasional MVP candidate and MLB All Star. On that note, Pena is pretty much the worst comp you could come up with. You may as well pick Kenny Lofton.

by huztler on May 19, 2025 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions

?

Worst case scenario is always for the prospect to fall flat on his face and never establish himself as a big leaguer. Few players have a floor of average MLB regular, virtually none have a floor of occasional AS player.

by jfish26101 on May 19, 2025 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

…with the exception of maybe RPs

by jfish26101 on May 19, 2025 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Sounds like Adam Dunn

C’est vrai?

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by criminal type on May 18, 2025 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

Tres possible!

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by Marinerfanjake on May 18, 2025 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Nolan Arenado went deep

In the first, vs Springfield

by casejud on May 18, 2025 8:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Oscar

Doubled down the first-base line in the first inning

by casejud on May 18, 2025 8:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

im just wondering, but how do his numbers compare to Howie Kendrick, when he was in AA?

they both had high avg, low OBP, and decent power nuumbers. everyone said Howie would win a batting title because of his pure hitting skills, and it seems like im hearing the same things about OT

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by mathisrocks5 on May 18, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Kendrick

He was 2 years older than OT in double a, his ISO wasn’t quite as good but yeah similar numbers. I know the Texas League today is more of a pitchers league, I wonder if it was when Kendrick was there.

Also saw Jason Parks say this on twitter: I love Myers, but I’d take Taveras. He’s in the Texas League. Slugging over .600 as a 19-year-old.

by 301Madison on May 18, 2025 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought

the Texas League is considered a hitters league

by sethbeno on May 18, 2025 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions

also

2 more BB’s for OT tonight. I bet he ends up with a solid BB rate considering how much he’s picked up the pace. 8-10% at the end of the season wouldn’t be too surprising.

by sethbeno on May 18, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Its only

a hitter’s league; not a hitters’ league. OT is the hitter.

by gghulsebus on May 18, 2025 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

HOME RUNS, WALKS AND AGE ... NOT CLOSE

Kendrick had 7 HR’s in 190 At bats in AA. Taveras has 10 HR’s already in 150 at bats. That is nearly TWICE as often. Not to mention Oscar is 2 years younger than Kendrick was and believe it or not has twice as many WALKS as Kendrick had in AA. Bad comparison

by justinupton on May 18, 2025 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions

No offense

.. I love Howie K but, Oscar does NOT have a low on base percentage! He led the MWL with a .444 last year, has walked twice tonight and, has an OBP over .370 now.

The idea that he doesn’t is based on some inane idea that everyone should get the same amount of base hits or… something … but he gets on base a lot.

More nonsensical ideas about Oscar are foisted forward every day, OT seems.

by casejud on May 18, 2025 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I think what he meant, and failed to articulate

Was a low BB rate, and therefore low OBP given his high AVG. In any event, that’s not going to change your mind or influence you, as we’re well aware of your view on BB fetishes

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I find them silly, yes

I have always loved players who control the strike zone but, I love players who sting base hits around and, don’t walk a lot either. There is more than one kind of good baseball player.
That is all I meant there.

by casejud on May 18, 2025 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

John Stilton

5IP | 4H | 3R/ER | 2BB | 3K

79 pitches, 53 strikes. Rough first couple innings, gave up all the damage and need 47 pitches, and then seemed like a different pitcher the last 3 innings, 9 up 9 down with the 3 Ks to the last 4 batters. 8GB, 4FB, 2LD

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 9:02 PM EDT reply actions

Justin Verlander

3 outs away from a no-hitter…throwing in the very high 90’s

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:11 PM EDT reply actions

Freak of nature

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions

base hit in the 9th with 1 out

bummer

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Matt Harvey

6 inn, 3 runs, 4 hits, 2 HR alowed, 11 K, 3 BB’s

still walking too many guys, but the K’s are pretty

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by mathisrocks5 on May 18, 2025 9:20 PM EDT reply actions

coming along just fine

What u think bob? That’s Thuggin and Buggin right Der.

by St.Steve on May 18, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions

CJ Riefenhauser 6 ip 3 h 0 bb 9 k

now 38 1/3 IP, 28 h 3 ER 5 BB 50 K and 20 2/3 currently without allowing a run and a 38/3 K/BB during that span.

Follow @Dbullsfan

by Dbullsfan on May 18, 2025 9:24 PM EDT reply actions

I'm starting to think he can be a solid starter.

by mr. maniac on May 18, 2025 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Marisnick

0-5, K

Marcus Knecht 0-4

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 9:26 PM EDT reply actions

Manny Banuelos

4 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 3 BB, 5 K

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:27 PM EDT reply actions

Cingrani

Why hasn’t he been promoted yet. A+ hasn’t been a challenge.

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by playingwithfire on May 18, 2025 9:31 PM EDT reply actions

Hadn't started

until he hit the minors last year, so maybe the Reds are letting him settle in. Reports are still a little out of synch with his numbers too, as most laud the FB but don’t see the secondaries you’d expect. Also, there has to be a spot for him at Double-A, which may not be there at the moment.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions

That said

2IP 1H 0R 0BB 6K so far tonight. lol

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Myers

2-3, 2b so far.

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 9:35 PM EDT reply actions

3-4

2B, 3B

Homer shy of the cycle.

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Josh Sale homered again

5 in his last 8 games.

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by Dbullsfan on May 18, 2025 9:39 PM EDT reply actions

is he officially back?

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by mathisrocks5 on May 18, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

evidently

Certainly an encouraging start. Switch must have gone on during XST . . .although I’m still a little cautious about him.

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn't be rushing to throw him in any top 50 list

but if he can show this kind of power 30+ potentially and he already has a couple steals as well he definitely become a guy who is borderline top 100 who can really breakout going into next year.

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by Dbullsfan on May 18, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Josh Sale

is the best thing since Oscar Taveras

by sethbeno on May 18, 2025 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Alex White

throwing against SEA, but I’ve been a little surprised at the number of times he’s been hitting 95 on the gun. Still has given up 2ER in 4IP though.

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 9:41 PM EDT reply actions

Good slider tonight

struck out two in the 5th with a good slider - 1-2-3 inning

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions

True

Saw that too. I watched his last start, and I’m surprised at the number of guys that are laying off his sinker low in the zone. I don’t know if they’re executing their game plan really well, but it looks like he’s throwing less sinkers tonight. I’m rooting for him though and I hope he stays with the big club.

Millwood, no hitter through 5. Yak!

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Sigh

Rockies getting no-hit by…Kevin Millwood - only 4 IP, though

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

was touching 96 in the 7th

Impressive.

Looks like he might be done. 7IP, 7H, 2ER, 0BB, 7K

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

dan straily, OK performance so far, nothing to write home about

just 13 k’s in 6 innings, 3 hits, 1 run, no homers

Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside

by guessatomo on May 18, 2025 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

1 walk

Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside

by guessatomo on May 18, 2025 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Awesome

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

well I was going to praise him, but okay fine, if A's fans aren't impressed by him, whatever, I don't care

Thanks for convincing me to think nothing more of Dan “Officially Non-Prospect” Straily, guessatomo . . .you showed me the error of my ways, and nothing that anybody (even you) can say or do from this point forward can change my now-permanent opinion.

Dan Straily sucks!

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

i should've made the "sarcastic font" note about the OK performance

haha no worries for missing that though

Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside

by guessatomo on May 18, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions

no, no, you weren't being sarcastic

I can see that you’re being sarcastic now, though . . .don’t worry, I won’t tell anyone else!

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions

67-17 K-BB ratio is absolutely disgusting

if there’s another pitching promotion to sacramento, it should be him.

Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside

by guessatomo on May 18, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions

i've been a fan of his since last year

dude’s been putting up some sick numbers, and apparently last year he developed a quality change up which really helped

Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside

by guessatomo on May 18, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Drew Pomeranz

5.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

Are they just delaying his clock?

I thought it was a little weird they sent him down. There’s not much he needs to work on down there.

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I recall he was sent down because the Rockies could skip his turn and they wanted him to work on something.

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

He's had a lot of trouble pitching with runners on base -- clearly not comfortable doing so at all

and at Purple Row we’re pretty concerned about the loss of velocity (to the tune of about 3-4 MPH) versus reports from 2011 Spring Training with the Indians.

by steakman on May 18, 2025 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Christian Yelich

3 hits, including 2 doubles, an RBI and a run scored

Play ball!

by tmannino on May 18, 2025 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

wow

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on May 19, 2025 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Nick Franklin is back

2-2, BB, 2B, 3B

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 9:55 PM EDT reply actions

Wow

4-4, 2 3B, 2B

Hitting .340. Wonder of he’ll get a bump soon. The Ms have nothing blocking him.

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Technically longtime former prospect Carlos Triunfel is blocking him in AAA.

But Triunfel might never hit enough to be more than a major league backup, so maybe they should put him at 2B in AAA to make room for Franklin. Something tells me he’ll see AAA by the beginning of the 2nd half.

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Triunfel

Light bat, low OBP guy. 11 ER at SS this year, career .938 at the position. I think you’re right that he could have a nice career as a utility man, but probably not enough to block a guy like Franklin. He’s hitting .342/.398/.532. Still can’t believe he fell of some people’s top 100.

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Franklin

What maybe most impressive is 16K in 128 PAs, with 11 BBs. I’m not sure he can stick at SS, but he might get to play there by virtue of a dearth of hitting in SEA. So for a SS with less questions about where he’ll end up ultimately, his bat puts him right behind Profar, Machado, and Lindor for me. I’m not counting Bogarts as a SS btw.

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Franklin's numbers are purty this year

it’s great to see all those MWL teenagers who hit exceedingly well two years ago, after struggling a little in 2011, bounceback and utterly dominate AA right now (Myers, Davidson, Franklin….and of course the crowning jewel is Trout)

teenagers in A-ball who can hit incredibly well are still the easiest signal for a great prospect imo

by blue bulldog on May 19, 2025 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions

great prospects come and go

I’m looking for great major leaguers.

I’ve always regarded AA as the test of a prospect’s true upside . . .even with flaws, the ones with a genuine chance to be stars always stand out in a way, whether it be in the sort of awesome tools or solid tools with a really advanced approach. AAA separates the prospects from the players, though.

I find the argument that “teenagers in A-ball who can hit incredibly well” have a very high major league floor to be a compelling one. The argument that “teenagers in A-ball who can hit incredibly well” are especially likely to be stars seems anachronistic. Too much of a leap projection-wise.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions

" AAA separates the prospects from the players, though."

Comment of the year….+1!

by mlbprospectpulse on May 19, 2025 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions

i don't disagree with you

i’ve been saying for the longest time now, that teenagers in A-ball who can hit incredibly well have the highest probability of making it to the majors and contributing as league average to above league average major leaguers

considering how high the probability of success is relative to the average Top 100 prospect, i don’t understand why ppl don’t appreciate this phenomenon more. you are basically almost guaranteed a major league regular for a kid who is 3-4 years away from the majors. it is an amazing phenomenon.

by blue bulldog on May 19, 2025 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I love Nick Franklin...

…his range and hands are fine for SS, his only real drawback there is his arm is a little short, but with Ackley at second and Seager at third, there’s really no other place for him.

In the Rising Stars last year, he somehow got on top of a shoulder high, 96 FB from Gerrit Cole and hit it 420 to left center.

That sold me as far as his offense goes. Cutting down the strikeouts is a plus obviously, but no questioning his hit tool.

by mlbprospectpulse on May 19, 2025 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions

he's playing at and sticking at shortstop

He’s not getting traded, and even if it turns out he’s a below-average defender there, the Mariners really don’t have anywhere else to play him and an obvious need at shortstop. He’ll play there for the foreseeable future unless he can’t hit at all, in which case the debate about his glove really doesn’t matter.

I will guarantee you this. Within 3 weeks of Franklin making his ML debut and getting regular play at shortstop, at least one person will chime in with the requisite “I’ve been watching him and I think he can stick, in fact he makes some pretty good plays, the scouts don’t know what they’re talking about”.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

in fact, let me add this point in the form of a question

Nick Franklin or Jurickson Profar: which is more likely to stick at shortstop? The answer is obviously Franklin, and no, that is neither a trick question nor a trick answer.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions

I get where your going

Just wanted to point out this is just based off team makeup, Profar is a superior defender then Franklin.

by High Heater on May 19, 2025 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

probably

In the end? Perhaps. These things have a funny way of changing very quickly, especially when it comes to players this age.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Second paragraph

sounds like what happened with Montero.

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

Pretty much the same thing happened with Ackley and Alex Liddi too.

I’ve started ignoring all defensive scouting reports of minor league players.

by WhyGodWhy on May 19, 2025 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I hear what you're saying

I wouldn’t ignore them, but I take them with a grain of salt. A defensive report is a totally different thing than a team’s assessment of its own defensive needs. Players move around on D to get the most offense in the line up as possible. I think Kupe is exactly right - Franklin will certainly stick and folks will come out of the woodwork and say “I was the ONE GUY that said he could field the position!” He’ll play SS not bc he’s the best SS, but bc he’s a good SS and his bat would be special there. It’s a really a great piece to build around for SEA. At SS, we’ve become obsessed with “latin instincts” and a plus plus glove. It’s obsurd that you can’t read a SS report on a HS draftee (or college) without someone questioning whether the guy will stick there. It’s ludicrous. You could say that about almost every position other than P. How on earth are there reports that Cecchini might not stick at SS when people don’t even know where he’s going? Seems silly and Franklin is a great example of just how silly it’s become.

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually differ, I think they're very important

The scouts 1) are professionally trained 2) see these guys play enough to make their own evaluations and 3) see a lot of players who clearly aren’t good enough to play shortstop at the major league level. That they are wrong on some players does not speak to their lack of proficiency, but to the difficulty of projecting development of defensive skills and physical maturation (which often plays a large role). I’d take the track record of the average scout over an avid fan any day. Just my opinion.

That said, we have to realize that this ultimately comes down to the organization’s decision. We can all scream, “JESUS MONTERO IS NOT A CATCHER” . . .but you know what? If the Mariners say, “whatever, we’re playing him at catcher”, then yep, he’s a catcher. Maybe a terrible one, but a catcher nonetheless. We were wrong.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm actually of the same thinking

I didn’t mean to imply that defensive scouting reports aren’t important. They represent probably the most important scouting metric since most statistical defensive measures are….let’s say controversial. Rather, they have to be taken with the consideration that they can’t be read in a vacuum, absent the organization’s needs. If a defensive report on Cecchini said "good instincts, but probably would have to move off short if a better player forces him, I would view that as more accurate than “will have to move off short bc he’s expected to grow to over 6’ tall.” That’s silly to me and viewing a player’s future position 5-7 years from now through a narrow lens.

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Um...

That they are wrong on some players does not speak to their lack of proficiency

Bullshit. While I am with you on the idea of weighing scout opinions higher than… say… my own, since I know jack shit on talent recognition and development, that doesn’t mean I have to listen to people who consistently are wrong just because of their profession. There could be a thousand reasons why they think the way they do, and while you can easily chalk it up to projection issues, I can just as easily speculate that they’re being lazy because they saw a player only a few times on their worst days.

Let me be blunt, not every scout watches every player do everything they do every day. We have no way of knowing if these scouts who are willing to make their reports to media members are the kinds of guys who travel with specific teams and watch those players religiously or if they’re just area scouts who see a player a few times a year.

There’s lots of reason to be skeptical of an outdated and highly prejudicial method of evaluation. It is STILL a necessary method, but it is by no means perfect and evaluators who consistently get shit wrong should be treated with nothing but disdain until they start getting shit right again.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 20, 2025 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions

lots of conjecture here

I see no reason to believe that any given evaluator is “consistently wrong”. Somebody might be completely right on Dustin Ackley at 2B and completely wrong on five other guys. Somebody else might nail just about everything but think there’s no way that the 21 year old Matt Kemp is a major league center fielder.

In other words, you really have no way of knowing whether somebody is generally good or bad at scouting. Other than longevity I suppose . . .I don’t think there is a shortage of people who desire to be scouts. It is probably safe to assume that if somebody has been in the profession for 20 years, it’s because they’re good enough to stick around.

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by mrkupe on May 20, 2025 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Fighting conjecture with conjecture...

It is probably safe to assume that if somebody has been in the profession for 20 years, it’s because they’re good enough to stick around.

There’s no reason to think this at all. And all of your examples of possibilities don’t actually help your argument. If someone is wrong most of the time, but right once, why should I take their word for it in any example? And if they’re somehow down on Matt Kemp, that’s a pretty big pock mark on their record, wouldn’t you say?

When it comes to scout information, sticking to one scout’s opinion is probably a bad idea, no matter how good the scout is. However, even if you discuss someone with multiple scouts, how do you know which of them has actually seen a player perform and how many of them are simply echo-chambering something they’ve heard from someone else? And if you don’t think there’s any echo-chambering going on when it comes to opinions on various prospects, you’re not paying that much attention.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 20, 2025 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions

scouts will say "so and so can't stick at SS"

for example: Machado

People interpret that as Machado won’t be a SS. Which is ridiculous. Maybe he won’t be a SS. But the scout is just saying that when Machado is fully matured he will soon need to move off the position. Which should be around the age of 28. And we all know stars are not moved off their position until they seriously decline.

IMO - the biggest flaw of scouts - is the interpretation of what a scout says. So often it’s taken out of context.

by pedrophile on May 20, 2025 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 20, 2025 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions

I didn't even think about that.

But yes.

Man, if Nick Franklin can keep hitting the way he is and stick at SS, I wonder where he’ll land in a lot of Top 100 lists next year? Top 40? If none of the Mariners’ big 3 pitchers lose rookie status this year, could they have 4 in the Top 40 before 2013?

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

Franklin was in the 40s-50s on a lot of list already and I don’t think I saw him much below 75, so top 40 wouldn’t even be that aggressive. He might be hurt by the depth of SSs in the top of the rankings right now, but if he keep up at 90% of his current production I don’t think top 25 is too out of hand.

So, he’s not Machado, Profar, Lindor, but those guys could all be top 15.

by ADLC on May 19, 2025 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Top 20

Shouldn’t be out of hand. If he keeps this pace, like you say, for a SS can you really find 20 other better hitters at their position? Asking rhetorically, not directly. But this is a ridiculous triple slash for a middle IF.

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember seeing him in the 50s and lower

and absent from a few lists altogether. I’d dance for joy if the Mariners had 5 of the top 40 or so though (considering they pick 3rd and are likely to have whomever that is jump directly into the top 40).

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions

BA left him out of the top 100

KG too maybe?

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope, sorry

BA 77

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Fangraphs left him out.

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

by Woodland League on May 19, 2025 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

After striking out a ton in his breakout year,

I am very happy to see he’s striking out less this year. With regard to defense, are is shortcomings mostly limited to arm strength? Poor arm accuracy? Or does he have poor range? I could more easily forgive poor arm strength than either of the other two. But after dealing with Yuniesky Betancourt at SS for a few years, as long as Franklin isn’t that bad in the field, I’ll be happy with him so long as his bat remains plus.

by the tourist on May 19, 2025 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Swihart

2-3, HR, BB

by Woodland League on May 18, 2025 10:03 PM EDT reply actions

Profar hit streak extended with a 3B in the 9th

1-3, 3B on the day

an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall

by MonkeyEpoxy on May 18, 2025 10:44 PM EDT reply actions

Trevor Bauer

Is pitching tonight for Reno. At the risk of offending, I’m going to call him the “Oscar Taveras of pitching prospects”

He dominated in college … then, bitch, bitch, nit-pick about him. Then he heads to AA ball . . . dominates the league . . . and, if I went by the comments here, I would think he was struggling to get outs or, something.

He’s been predictably great through 3 tonight, punching out 5 and, walking none.

by casejud on May 18, 2025 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Just 1 walk so far

What’s more impressive to me is how he managed to get out of trouble with the K when OKC got runners in scoring position

by bbtng on May 18, 2025 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh and it looks like he can handle the bat a bit too

0-2 but seen 18 pitches in his 2 ABs by fouling off a lot pitches

by bbtng on May 18, 2025 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions

12 pitches

Gamecast screwed up. 10 pitches in his first AB

by bbtng on May 18, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Out of curiousity

What exactly are the rules for pitchers hitting in the minors? Is it only NL affiliate teams face each other? Or at the discretion of the team?

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

If I remember correctly

Only AA and above, and when NL meets NL

by bbtng on May 18, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions

this is correct

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks

I figured it had to be something like that, since I really only listen to Blue Jays affiliates but couldn’t recall pitchers ever hitting.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Keury de la Cruz

3 for 5 with a double, triple. 35:8 K:BB.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:01 PM EDT reply actions

Ben Gamel

3 for 4 with a strikeout. Fourth multi-hit game in his last six.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:04 PM EDT reply actions

Danny Mateo

3 for 4 with a double, triple, walk, strikeout. Solid walk and strikeout rates. Doesn’t turn 21 until August. Nice start to the year.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:07 PM EDT reply actions

A.J. Cole

Seems like I say it every five days, but in TROUBLE: 1IP 6H 6R 6ER 1BB 1K and 1 HRA. Trying to remember the last time I saw the wheels come off like this for a pitcher.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

Tyler Matzek would like a word with you

Perhaps Cole’s having issues with his secondaries, but I’m wondering how much of this we can attribute to being an unlucky flyball pitcher in the Cal. Walks and strikes look fine, BABIP is astonishingly high.

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe,

but Matzek never had a year as good as Cole’s 2011. So, Tyler’s gonna have to talk to someone else.

by charles wallace on May 19, 2025 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions

And I've seen

starkly different reports on the secondaries compared to last year. Lots of “All he had was a FB”’ stuff after games.

by charles wallace on May 19, 2025 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Elvis Araujo

6IP 5H 1R 1ER 1BB 6K.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:13 PM EDT reply actions

Victor Payano

5IP 4H 3R 3ER 2BB 4K and 1 HRA.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:14 PM EDT reply actions

Gregory Polanco

2 for 5. Steady.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:16 PM EDT reply actions

Matt Adams

2 for 2 with a homer (8) so far. Three homers in his last six games.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:17 PM EDT reply actions

In same game

Hechavarria 2-2, HR, 1B off wall thrown at 2B
d’Arnaud 2-2, HR
Gose 1-2, K, 2B (line drive up middle, CF took his time so Gose took 2nd)

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow

Ball’s flying.

by charles wallace on May 18, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Indeed

David Cooper also has a dinger too, went back to back with Hech. That’s 5 HR in the top of the 4th. Gotta love Vegas.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Now up to 7 HR in the top of 6th

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions

d'Arnaud matches Adams

Hits another HR, 3-3, 2HR.
Hech 2-3
Gose 2-3, 2B, 3B

I can’t wait to see Gose on the bases, has turned a routine single into a double and now a routine 2B into a 3B. Led off the inning with a ground ball down the line, rounded 2B aggressively and apparently stopped momentarily to go back, induced the LF to throw in behind him and then continued into 3B.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Make that

3-3, 2HR. Adds a grand slam on a FB down the middle with the count 0-2.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions

somebody threw an 0-2 fastball down the middle with the bases loaded?

In tonight’s edition of “It’s the minors, don’t read too much into the numbers” . . .

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

lol

According to the announcers at least, I’m not watching. I’m sure it won’t surprise you that someone was 27 yo old org guy Robert Coello

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions

and his catcher was 23 year old top prospect Travis d'Arnaud

On the other hand, who would expect an 0-2 fastball on the plate with the bases loaded?

Besides Matt Adams, I guess.

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions

What does TdA have to do with it?

Coello was wild, had walked the last two batters. We can certainly infer that he wasn’t aiming over the plate in that situation, just missed his spot and paid the price, consistent with the poor control/command he had the whole inning.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions

pitch call?

Yes a pitcher has the final call . . .but what catcher lets his guy throw a fastball in that situation?

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions

To be honest

I’m only half listening when Memphis is hitting, since Las Vegas pitching is completely uninspiring. Coello was having trouble finding the plate, it could be the case that the breaking ball wasn’t working at all. We don’t really know, and I think it’s a little unfair to pin it on the catcher.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I wasn't pinning it on the catcher

Managing a pitcher and calling pitches is nonetheless part of a catcher’s development.

Throwing an 0-2 fastball anywhere around the plate with the bases loaded, to a guy who absolutely crushes fastballs no less, is a ridiculously bad idea. It’s such a bad idea that it leaps out as something that I’m genuinely curious about why it actually happened in a game.

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions

A high fastball with the bases loaded isn't a bad plan.

You’re pretty likely to get the hitter to pop it up or swing through it. You gotta make sure it’s UP though.

by PissedMick on May 19, 2025 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions

tough to do that against a big guy (Adams is 6'3") with a lot of power

If he struggles with anything, it’s breaking stuff that stays down. With Adams you’re basically hoping for the second situation to occur, because even if he doesn’t get good wood on the ball, he has enough strength to get the ball deep and score a run (there was 1 out in the inning). The ideal play would be to get him to chase offspeed for the K or a DP.

Calling for offspeed there is such an obvious play that I’m almost surprised that Adams DIDN’T pop that ball up - he must have been shocked. So maybe that was the idea.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions

Depends on the pitcher

and how Adams handles pitches way up. I see no problem with wasting a pitch neck-high and hoping the hitter chases in that situation. Sets him up for that low/outside pitch on 1-2. Getting it low enough for Adams to have any hope of making solid contact was the mistake.

by PissedMick on May 19, 2025 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually now that I think about it

To the previous batter, with runners on 1st and 2nd, Coello threw a wild pitch to the backstop that advanced the runners, and I’m reasonably sure that was a breaking ball, and I believe d’Arnaud went out to the mound. So maybe they shelved it due to that. Who knows.

by MjwW on May 18, 2025 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions

that situation is a perfect one to re-establish the breaking ball, though

If it works then you’re out of the inning. If it doesn’t then it’s still a 1-2 count and the pitcher is still in control.

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by mrkupe on May 18, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Sure

But if he bounces it to the backstop again, then a run scores to tie the game, and the runners move up, removing the double play (which would end the inning. Or, worse, with no control and no confidence in the pitch, he grooves it and gets belted. There’s the old axiom that if you’re going to get beat, may as well be with your best stuff.

Anyway, to also address your comment above, I completely agree managing the game and pitcher is critical to development. I’m just saying, that given that it’s Coello (an org guy without great stuff), and that he had just entered the game that inning and struggled, including walking two and a wild pitch, there are reasons they may have gone with that, if indeed that was the initial plan and not a shake-off. There’s just so much we don’t know

by MjwW on May 19, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Final lines

Adams 4-5, 2HR, 2B
Gose 2-5, 2B, 3B
Hechavarria 2-3, SF
d"Arnaud 3-3, 2HR, BB
Cooper 1-3, HR, SF

by MjwW on May 19, 2025 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Also, Hech with a HR

by The_Bunk on May 19, 2025 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Whoops

Indeed. Had it above, neglected to carry down here

by MjwW on May 19, 2025 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah,

I don’t know about the confab above, but that’s a nice line for Adams.

by charles wallace on May 19, 2025 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Hendriks pretty much dominated in International Lg. tonight.

(against weak lineup)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 18, 2025 11:43 PM EDT reply actions

Bauer with his second straight fabulous outing

7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 9 K’s. Got a ton of whiffs and K’s on the curve.

He’s at 97 pitches, but he’s on deck in the bottom half of 7th and there’s no one up in the ‘pen so I think he’s still going. I am giddy.

by CaptainCanuck on May 18, 2025 11:44 PM EDT reply actions

gives up a HR

just over the wall. I’ll blame that on Reno…

by CaptainCanuck on May 19, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions

The Youthfull BJ Hermsen doing his thing again in the Eastern LG.

7.2 IP - 6 H - 2 ER - 3 K’s, 0 BB’s

he’s been really good , even after skipping The pitcher friendly FSL completely.

But the K’s were a touch down in this outing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 18, 2025 11:51 PM EDT reply actions

Purposely

didn’t post that so you could. ;)

by charles wallace on May 19, 2025 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Aaron Hicks 1-3 , HR (5) , K

batting around .245…. he needs to get going before too long…He’s got some time.

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 18, 2025 11:52 PM EDT reply actions

Levi Michael 3-4, 2B

maybe about to bust out of this slump?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 18, 2025 11:55 PM EDT reply actions

C. Carter... another HR

come on Mr Carter…

by zeuspower on May 18, 2025 11:56 PM EDT reply actions

mammoth power

mammoth strikeout rate

Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside

by guessatomo on May 18, 2025 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Pat Dean and Jimmy Nelson went at it in FSL tonight:

Dean : 8.0 IP - 7 H - 1 ER(HR) 8 K’s/ 1 BB’s

Nelson : 9.0 IP - 6 H - 2 ER(HR) , 5 K’s/ 1 BB’s

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 18, 2025 11:58 PM EDT reply actions

wow

Somebody forgot to tell Jimmy that you NEVER go Full Nelson

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions

I just traded all my prospects for Miggy

I need you people more than ever.

Machado 2/4 3b,k
Schoop 0/5. 3Ks Hitting .235

by ADLC on May 19, 2025 12:04 AM EDT reply actions

Tyler Austin

by JoelGuzman'sScout on May 19, 2025 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Bauer

probably done now. Masterful outing.

8 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 11 K’s

aaaaaaaaaaahhh….

by CaptainCanuck on May 19, 2025 12:06 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah, but can he sac bunt properly?

Seriously though, when is the earliest they can call him up with regards to the Super 2 status?

by bbtng on May 19, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Late June or July

Now that the new CBA has made a higher proportion of 2+ service time players Super 2 eligible, it’s going to push that date back some

by MjwW on May 19, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions

And he gets his 1st AAA win

and 8th of the season thanks to Adam Eaton throwing out the tying run at the plate with 1 out in the 9th

by bbtng on May 19, 2025 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Bauer looked absurd today

especially later in the innings, when the fastball command actually looked good

curveball was disgusting, and he flashed a plus changeup

by blue bulldog on May 19, 2025 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Trout

3 for 3 with a triple and a steal. Now at 343/403/582.

by pedrophile on May 19, 2025 12:33 AM EDT reply actions

Bryce who?

by mlbprospectpulse on May 19, 2025 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Bryce "I'm still doing a heck of a lot better in the majors as a 19 year old than Trout did" Harper?

by nixa37 on May 19, 2025 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions

actually

he isn’t.

Trout was a 0.6 WAR player in 2011 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/troutmi01.shtml). Harper is 0.0 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harpebr03.shtml) at the moment.

by JoelGuzman'sScout on May 19, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Harper 2011 wRC+: 110
Trout 2010 wRC+: 89

Of course, that’s just offense. By fWAR it’s 0.8 to 0.2 in favour of Trout, but that’s a counting stat so Harper has some PAs to try and catch up to that.

by MjwW on May 19, 2025 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions

and if you want to get REALLY technical

Trout turned 20 in August 2011. He sucked in the majors in July (as a 19 year old), then blew up in August (as he was turning 20). So if you want to claim 19 year old Harper in the majors > 19 year old Trout in the majors, I think the evidence is heavily in your favor.

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by mrkupe on May 19, 2025 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions

i agree that a 19 year old Harper > 19 year old Trout

but RIGHT NOW, i think it’s fair to say that Trout’s surpassing everything that Harper is doing RIGHT NOW except for time on ESPN.

by JoelGuzman'sScout on May 20, 2025 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

does the ability to nearly self-bludgeon yourself silly in a baseball dugout mean nothing to you???

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by mrkupe on May 20, 2025 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions

lol you said “favour”

Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
If you didn't know by now, my screen name is sarcastic

by mathisrocks5 on May 19, 2025 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

lol

Well, I imagine the way you and I both say “favour/favor” is no different. But that’s just me trying to be humourous, I’m not trying to insult your honour or start any rumours that you might speak oddly. I promise this isn’t clamouring for attention, the Queen’s English is a labour of love for me and I hope you don’t let this colour how you think of what I write. So to sum up, I hope with every fibre of my being this won’t cause any lasting rancour, and we can continue to vigourous analyse propsects - offence, defence, and centrefielders of the calibre of Mike Trout. In this respect, I endeavour to continue, however meagre my contributions might be.

Oh, and I find it really insulting that Firefox has underlined about half of the above words. Damn linguistic imperialism.

by MjwW on May 19, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Canadians are a strange breed

by nixa37 on May 20, 2025 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions

on top of that

Trout’s doing LIGHT YEARS better than Harper at the moment. Yes, the age is an issue. But if you bring THAT UP, can’t i bring up the character and asinine antics, too?

by JoelGuzman'sScout on May 19, 2025 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions