MiLB 4/16
by auclairkeithbc on Apr 16, 2025 1:01 PM EDT
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PrintHere are some probables for today. I combined A and A+ ball together because there are only a few interesting names and quite a few TBD at this point....
AAA - Jarrod Parker, Casey Kelly, Jeurys Familia, Dellin Betances, Alexander Torres, Christian Friedrich, Brad Hand vs Michael Fiers, Vin Mazzaro, A.J. Burnett rehab start
AA - Get tickets for this double header (GM 1 Robbie Erlin vs Tim Melville, GM 2 Juan Oramas vs Chris Dwyer), Zeke Spruill vs James Paxton, Jarred Cosart, Trey McNutt vs Tyler Thornburg, Ethan Martin, A.J. Griffin, Bobby Bundy
Low A and High A - Archie Bradley vs Noah Syndergaard, Austin Wood, Mike Foltynewicz, Jose Campos, Wilmer Font, Cody Martin, Alex Burgos
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screw erlin-melville/oramas-dwyer
i’d pay triple that to see syndergaard vs archie bradley tonight
by jwa1417 on Apr 16, 2025 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
That's not going to be worth the admission
Syndergaards only ppitching 3 innings per start early in the season. Jays are piggy-backing pitchers at Lansing till after the All Star Break at the least.
by hrv2010 on Apr 16, 2025 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
it isn't on the schedule
goldstein retweeted lansing’s PA guy, who said that is the matchup to start the game
by jwa1417 on Apr 16, 2025 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
3 innings of Trogdor vs Bradley
is definitely at least worth price of admission, plus a few beers and a fat kid talking in front of you the whole game.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
a fat kid talking in front of you
Don’t forget the guy behind you telling his girlfriend how he totally made that play the SS booted last weekend in his softball game.
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
oh my bad
was i talking that loud? haha i keed i keed
i was that shortstop that booted the ball last weekend :(
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 16, 2025 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you wouldn't have booted it if you just stopped drinking inbetween innings.
And start drinking during innings instead.
by ThomasG on Apr 16, 2025 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it helped during my last tourney, might have to try again!
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 16, 2025 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of annoying things at ballgames
how about 90% of the fans booing when they mistakenly think the fake to third to first pickoff is a balk?
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Annoying
is booing throws to check the runner at 1B. Looking at you, Cincinnati!
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i saw that
still…i’d take 3 innings of syndergaard plus whoever else they roll out there vs archie over any other matchup today by far
by jwa1417 on Apr 16, 2025 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's partnered with DeSclafani
so you’ll get good value, two big arms in a row.
by TtD on Apr 16, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
Marcus Brisker just took an Archie Bradley FB off his helmet, bounced off into the stand. Really, really loud, hideous sound. Apparently Brisker seem okay, got up.
Sounded awful. Jesus.
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Cosart was scratched
I guess that blister isn’t quite fully healed yet, based to play something like that safe.
by kyuss94 on Apr 16, 2025 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
Not officially listed yet, but Tyler Matzek is likely to be going for Modesto today
by steakman on Apr 16, 2025 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Good start
6 IP|5 H|1 ER|2 BB|4 K
much more efficient this time around; only 90 pitches
by steakman on Apr 17, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
side note
griffin was texas league pitcher of the week last week
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 16, 2025 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
Nolan Arenado
1-3 1B 1 R 1 RBI 1 BB 1 K 1 Robot Heart…game is in the bottom of the eigth, has an outside shot at getting one more AB
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
I see what you did there
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Casey Kelly
scratched per DSBerk on Twitter - no reason given
Play ball!
by tmannino on Apr 16, 2025 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
yup
hopefully it’s nothing and he just needs a start or two skipped
by jwa1417 on Apr 16, 2025 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
headed to San Diego to have elbow examined
Really shitty considering he was off to such a great start.
by John Black on Apr 16, 2025 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
getting an MRI they say per @NCTPadres
that just sucks.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 16, 2025 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He supposedly was examined in Tucson
and was “OK”. The Padres’ are calling it ‘precautionary’ and that they just want their medical staff to check him out. I hope that it turns out to be nothing.
by polyrhythm07 on Apr 16, 2025 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I must have missed it, what happened to Tai Walker?
Why hasn’t he started again?
by Vegasexpat on Apr 16, 2025 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Mike Foltynewicz
3 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 3 K, 6-0 GO-FO.
Dominant. The run was scored as a result of a Delino DeShields error.
by kyuss94 on Apr 16, 2025 7:49 PM EDT via Android app reply actions
Billy Hamilton 2-5 2B, SB
Ohhhhhhhhhhh Bill-ehhhhhhhhh!
by BryceHarper on Apr 16, 2025 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
yes sir!
Cable Guy is so underrated! Love that movie….
by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 17, 2025 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
yea matt
U aint kidding!
“I know, Jerry, that you are as human as the rest of us, if not more so.”
by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 17, 2025 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think both
are criminally unsung. Nice to see that not everyone assumes you left of “Larry the” when you bring up Cable Guy. I think it’s Stiller’s best work.
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Syndergaard is rapidly becoming the Jays best prospect
by Bravesin07 on Apr 16, 2025 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
He's nasty
but can’t see him ahead of D’Arnaud just yet lol.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 16, 2025 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno about that but definitely Jays best pitching prospect but I already considered him Jays best pitching prospect going into the season.
by Sniderlover on Apr 16, 2025 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Noah Syndergaard
3IP | 3H | 0R/ER | 0BB | 6K
All contact was weak…the three hits were a bloop single, a groundball to the outfield grass, and a bunt that popped out of Syndergaard glove as he applied the tag. 3 other ground ball and a soft liner to SS. 3 K looking, three swinging. 2 of each of curveball, 1 each on FB. 53 pitches, 38 strikes. Good fastball command, struggled a little with CB but stuck by it
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
They changed
the bunt to an error looks like.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 16, 2025 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I'm assuming
it’s the bunt based on your description.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 16, 2025 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
Weird. I’ve refreshed the page 3 times and my computer has my comment ahead of yours. Yet, the time-stamp on mine is 8:04 and it’s 8:03 on yours. /Scratches head
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 16, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Odd
Mine shows yours first, which means you were clearly ahead because when it’s close one’s own comment always shows up first initially then when you refresh it’ll bo below if it actually wasn;t
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
just as i expected
MjwW is certainly some sort of Dr. Who character.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually 2H
The bunt that popped out was (rightfully) actually scored an error
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice
14:3 K:BB in 9 IP. Can’t wait to see how the curve/change are coming along.
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
can I ask
How much of this is literal, and how much of this is your own take on something you’re not actually seeing? I hope that doesn’t sound rude as I definitely appreciate the info.
by mrkupe on Apr 16, 2025 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
A few of us listening on the radio feed
So it’s pretty accurate though dependant on the accuracy of the commentator.
by TtD on Apr 16, 2025 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
As TtD noted
It’s based off the radio feed. I’m scoring the game, tracking pitch by pitch (ball, called strikes, swinigng strikes, fouls, BIP) and noting pitch types as they’re given.
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And then the last little bit is my own commentary
Based on a few notes I made (where was the location, were 2 strike pitch was it left up, etc). Which is kinda secondary since I’m not seeing it.
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
aj griffin dominating so far
night’s not over, but at this point 3 ip’s, 3 hits, 5 k’s, 0 bb’s.
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 16, 2025 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
kind of old but very intriguing
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely old
but still just his second full pro season
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 16, 2025 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
13th round steal!
Kid can rake. Not sure about his defensive abilities, but the bat looks great so far.
by John Black on Apr 16, 2025 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well,
RF is better than 1B, so here’s hoping he can handle it. The arm should translate from 3B.
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
2 for 4 with a triple, walk, strikeout
Good grief.
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He should be an average RFer
Great bat. If he keeps this up, it will be interesting to see how the tool-centric prospectors rank him at the end of the year.
by cookiedabookie on Apr 17, 2025 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember
seeing him at Aflac and being impressed by the swing, and he certainly has a durable physique. Not the most tooled up guy, but he gets the most out of what he has. Might need to see him a level or two higher before we know what the future holds, as his approach seems to be too advanced for the Sally.
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Luke Jackson
5.2 IP | 4 H | 2 ER | 1 BB | 7 K
22:6 K:BB ratio in 16 innings.
encouraging
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Apr 16, 2025 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah,
I’d say the strikeouts are very encouraging. That’s three good starts, two of them very good.
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't stress this enough
struck out the side in the 7th…something perhaps going down.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
10 Ks
Small guy with a BIG arm.
by John Black on Apr 16, 2025 9:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
could've gone with a
boner joke there dude.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Lost his perfecto
with one out in the eighth…darn.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And this Robert Wooten reliever douche
is promptly f’ing it up for everyone.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Final Line
even though I am the only person that seems to care 7.1 IP 1 H 0 BB 11 K 1 ER (Wooten let him score)
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
big things come in small packages
how did I do?
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm always down for bonerz
…oh wait
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Duffy hit 100 tonight.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Apr 16, 2025 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
the KC announcing crew
made note that the gun is juiced by about 2-3 MPH (not like it’s a surprise), still impressive nonetheless. Great game considering he’s facing Verlander who is also throwing gas.
by sourstuff on Apr 16, 2025 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and yet still better than he was at first
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Apr 16, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly
i watch this guy, and there’s zero reason he can’t be one of the better starters in the game. lefty, unbelievable fastball, great curve, change is better than i’ve seen in the past. needs to be more consistent with command, but good lord the tools are there to be awesome.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Apr 16, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of Derek Holland when he was first coming up
by mdrob on Apr 16, 2025 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I like Derek Holland quite a bit, but I don’t think he’s got anything near Danny Duffy’s raw talent.
by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK
Holland is 95-97 with a plus breaking ball, and he’s actually established himself. I’ve been following Duffy since he was drafted, and I’ll take Holland without a doubt.
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Should say
sometime plus breaking ball. When it’s on, he’s pretty much untouchable, and increasingly it’s on.
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched last inning
Ryan Raburn KILLS lefties and Duffy’s first 5 pitches were all 4-seamers. Mostly between 97.5 and 98.5 according to mlb.com. At no point did Raburn look like he might hit a ball with any authority. The 6th pitch was the curve and got a weak grounder. I’m sold.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 16, 2025 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
then he gives up a HR to a terrible hitter
but i got no problems touting the guy. he’s super talented. once he gets a little more experience learning what he can and can’t do and commands the ball consistently, i think he’s got #1 starter upside.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Apr 16, 2025 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Raburn
Has not killed anything this year. But I do like The way Duffy is pitching this year.
by gghulsebus on Apr 16, 2025 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he's been bad
but that .838 OPS and .501 career slugging percentage against lefties is still indicative of something, present struggles notwithstanding.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 16, 2025 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen....
Bruce Chen hit 94 on that gun/FX system.
by anjichpa on Apr 17, 2025 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i haven't
but we’ll see tonight.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Apr 17, 2025 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Archie Bradley done
5IP | 0H | 0R | 2BB | 1HBP | 8K.
88 pitches by my count, 57 strikes. 7 swinging strikes. Will add a few other notes more
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
From the play-by-play on MiLB
looks like nothing made it out of the infield. He got 9 groundouts
by bbtng on Apr 16, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
7 groundouts that is
Maths is not my strong point :P
by bbtng on Apr 16, 2025 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Mathis is never a strongpoint
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, nothing left the infield
Some decent hitting prospects on Lansing too…Carlos Perez, C. Hawkins, K. Sweeney. A couple other guys have been hot in the early going as .
Very impressive outing, got better as the game went on:
First 2 innings: 42 pitches, 24 strikes. K, BB, HBP (once through the order)
Last 3 innings: 46-33. 7K, BB.
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony DeSclafani
3IP | 2H | 0R | 0BB | 3K
27 pitches, 22 strikes (I’m pretty confident I missed a pitch or two due to a couple of distractions). 5 GB, 2 LD, 1 FB. Really efficient, got 5 swing and misses total, on FB and also his breaking ball.
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Nice bounceback outing for Wilmer Font
3 IP | 2 H | 0 ER | 1 BB | 3 K
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Apr 16, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Justin Grimm
Still going, but 5 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 5 K, 0 BB. Third consecutive great start.
by Ryne Alber on Apr 16, 2025 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
Loss of command for Paxton
4 Innings 2H, 1ER, 6BB, 4K 49-24 pitches/strikes
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Apr 16, 2025 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
Now 8 BB
According to pitch track, there are a lot of the 4 pitch variety, all right on the outside corner. Weird.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He must be getting squeezed by the umpire.
Many of these look very borderline.
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Apr 16, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Or
Is that just how pitch track records strikes….4 in a row (and without noting the proper location). That would explain the low pitch count, bc he’s really over 100 pitches but pitch track reads a lot lower.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not usually at the AA level
They have a stringer who is actually following
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't think so in this case
Going through the pitch by pitch, there are literally 3 or 4 ABs all game that aren’t listed as first pitch in play, 3 pitch strikeout, or 4 pitch walk and they don’t have a single foul ball listed. I’ve noticed similar things in multiple Mississippi Braves’ games this season, so it may just be the Southern League or a few teams therein.
by nixa37 on Apr 16, 2025 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, okay
I usually only use Gameday for the Eastern League (which has been expanded to all stadiums I’m pretty sure). That’s kinda disappointing, hopefully MLBAM expands it
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
However the location on the GameDay application
Should be ignored, it’s not representative relative to the player outline
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah okay.
That makes much more sense.
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Apr 16, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
8 walks in less than 5 innings means he doesn't get to use the "it's okay, he was getting squeezed" excuse
by mrkupe on Apr 16, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Maybe…..maybe he was tinkering with some stuff. Some hubris after starting with a 17-1 K/BB ratio. Or maybe he just had a bout of the yips. I’d wait to hear a report.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This reminds me of what many of his Clinton starts were like.
Tons of walks, some strikeouts, few runs allowed.
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Apr 16, 2025 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
6 IP 2 H 1 ER 9 BB 6 K
That’s almost inconceivable.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
7 IP 2 H 1 ER 9 BB 7 K
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy with 9 BB and 7 K go 7 IP
What is his real pitch count. MiLB reads 76, but that can’t be possible.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't be
9*4+7*3=57 right there. That’s really surprising they left him in for the last couple innings, but he must be finding the groove
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
167
He must be up around there. Nice to show the Big Club you’re a horse.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Either way they're showing real faith in him.
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Apr 16, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
MiLB
is posting a final line for Paxton as:
4.2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 8 BB, 4 K
That makes more sense given the pitch count.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't A.J. Burnett walk 8 or 9 guys in his no-hitter in FLA?
by dbreer23 on Apr 17, 2025 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds right
Francisco Liriano walked six in his last summer.
by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Odd that I own both Liriano and Jackson. I’m sure there’s a lesson there…
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Paxton
really weird start so far
4 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 6 BB, 4 K
Lot of 4 pitch walks according to pitch track. Maybe that’s
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
Whoops
Meant to hit cancel after I saw the above post.
Click fail!
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gary Brown
2/5, 2B, 2K
Ehire Adrianza
1/4, BB
Tommy Joseph
2/4. 2 doubles, SF
by wilriv21 on Apr 16, 2025 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
J.J. Hoover
J.J. Hoover
J.J. Hoover
Why is he being ignored? He has been amazing since being converted to a reliever. Amazing. Just notched another perfect inning, 1 pitch flyout for Chisenhall, then struck out Matt Laporta who has been locked in this year on a called strike then 2 swinging. Then struck out the next guy with a foul ball, swinging and called strike.
So far this year just a ho hum 54.5 K% and 4.5 BB%. Just 12 K and 1 BB in 6 IP with a single and double as his only hits. He did give up 2 runs, but his FIP is around 0.12 (it was 0.14 entering today).
And he was just as good last year as an RP. Starting at beginning of August he had a 49.1 K% and 8.9 BB% in 15 2/3 IP giving up 4 hits over that stretch and NO runs. His FIP was 0.58 but I think that is actually not giving him enough credit for being unhittable.
What is going on, seriously?
by auclairkeithbc on Apr 16, 2025 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
why is he not a starter?
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Because his stuff profiles a lot better in the pen. As a starter, he has questionable velocity for a RHP and doesn’t have any secondaries that really project to be better than a 55.
by nixa37 on Apr 16, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what I was thinking
its hard to get excited over a relief prospect (or relievers in general). Not to take away from his early success. Very impressive.
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
I am curious how many relievers in the minors have had stretches like this in recent years.
by auclairkeithbc on Apr 16, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
I think he’ll be a good RP, but I know John still believes he can be #3/#4 type SP if he gets the chance and things go right.
by nixa37 on Apr 16, 2025 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
How exactly is he striking everyone out at such a high level?
He was nearly a K per inning guy as a SP, but he is basically a 2 K per inning reliever.
by auclairkeithbc on Apr 16, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the extra FB velocity makes a pretty big difference
IIRC the move to the pen bumped his velocity up ~3 MPH. I would think having 4 pitches (if he hasn’t dropped any with the move) he can throw for strikes would be a pretty big advantage as well.
by nixa37 on Apr 16, 2025 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
steal of a trade made by Reds....
Well, at least it may turn out that way.
IF Madson isn’t the same when he comes back….
maybe Hoover could close by years end.
Hoover, Marshall, Madson, Chapman, Massett, Herrera, Bray, Ondrusek. Jose Arrenado too, can he regain old form?
One hell of a bullpen right there.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 17, 2025 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
*Arredondo
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 17, 2025 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Alfredo Simon
hasn’t looked half bad either. Everything that guys throws features movement.
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Gary Sanchez
3-4 2B, SB
Anyone seen how his def. has been? Passballs/Errors down?
by BryceHarper on Apr 16, 2025 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Haven't seen him
but he has 0 passed balls and has thrown out 36% of attempted basestealers, so there are definitely positive signs of improvement.
http://www.yankeeanalysts.com
by lemonjello on Apr 16, 2025 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Familia and Harvey struggling early :(
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
Mike Folty
Final line- 7 IP, 3 H, 2 R/1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
THIS is the pitcher the Astros thought they were getting when they took him 14th overall. I’ll go ahead and predict he’s in top 100s this winter.
by kyuss94 on Apr 16, 2025 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
19th
But it is possible he’ll surge way up if he keeps this up.
by auclairkeithbc on Apr 16, 2025 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
it would make sense if you thought he was rushed last year
If you figure that he really should have been in short season ball last year and that this year is his first appropriate exposure to the level, that would bode well for him.
It’s not totally a clear translation (he’s gotten to pitch more innings than he would have on a more conservative track, and experience is a huge factor in player performance when they’re this young), though. Same reason why I’m much more cautious now about the “if he was in college, he’d be a sophomore” arguments applied to some players . . .being in the pros earlier means more at bats or innings pitched, sooner.
by mrkupe on Apr 16, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
His stuff has always been #2/#3 quality
But like you say he was quite young for the SAL last year, especially coming from a cold weather climate last year, I think it’s quite fair to give him a mulligan on 2011.
by kyuss94 on Apr 16, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
John Stilson
3.2IP | 7H | 2R/ER | 0BB | 2K
8GB, 6FB, 1LD, 1PO. Didn’t listen to the game so I don’t know how the outing went, but looking over the recap 3 ground ball singles and 2 fly ball singles, so not necessary giving up a lot of good contact.
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Christian Yelich is a stud
2-3 3B 2BB SB
gotta love the early returns
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Austin Wood didn't do so well :(
4IP 5H 3ER 2BB 1K 1HRA
by miketrout on Apr 16, 2025 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
<3
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by mathisrocks5 on Apr 17, 2025 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It'd be nice to see Szczur get going
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He showed he can take a walk, now he's going to start showing he can actually hit the damn ball.
His start has been very weird.
by bdlugz on Apr 16, 2025 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake Marisnick and Matt Szczur
Marisnick: 0-3, HBP, K swinging
Szczur: 4-5
Marcus Knecht: 3-5, 2Bx2
Michael Crouse: 0-3, BB, 2K
by MjwW on Apr 16, 2025 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Jose Campos
struggled tonight (compared to his 1st 2 outings): 5 IP 4 H, 1 BB, 1 ER, 7 K
http://www.yankeeanalysts.com
by lemonjello on Apr 16, 2025 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
4 Hits is too much....Send him back to eth DSL.
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 16, 2025 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, total bust
Seattle clearly wins the trade
http://www.yankeeanalysts.com
by lemonjello on Apr 16, 2025 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Engel Beltre has 3 walks this evening
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Apr 16, 2025 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
imposter!
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by mathisrocks5 on Apr 17, 2025 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Was thinking body snatchers might be involved...
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Bruins 4 Caps 3
Come on, it was a big goal with a minute left.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Michael Jensen
nice start for Peoria: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO, 9/3 GO/FO
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 16, 2025 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
pleasantly surprised at how good he's looked to start the year
and i didn’t think he’d pound out ground balls the way he has. combine that with the fastball/breaking ball, if he keeps this up, i’d love to see him in Daytona early summer (and open up a rotation spot for someone to eat more innings in Peoria).
by toonsterwu on Apr 17, 2025 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Wil Myers
Apparently out of both games with fever/flu.
by Woodland League on Apr 16, 2025 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
craziness
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 17, 2025 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Matt Adams
3 for 4. Throw it and he will hit it.
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
love Story
anyone believe he can stick at 2B if it comes to that?
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 16, 2025 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oscar Taveras ISO: .311
he’s definitely out to prove the power-doubters wrong
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by purple_haze on Apr 16, 2025 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Taveras
I’m still don’t get where the concern over the power even began at. A slg% of basically .200 in the MW League at 18/19 is impressive despite not having great hr totals.
by hybrid on Apr 17, 2025 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Who questioned his power?
I remember people questioning how he’d adjust to more advanced pitching and the BB rate of ~2% isn’t exactly answering that question quite yet.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions
in fairness, there was a lot of variation in future power grades on Taveras (between 40 and 70)
Of course:
A) It’s early, and if an aggressive hitter is going to put up big power numbers, it’s early in the season
B) He’s gotten to play 7 of his 10 games thus far in hitter-friendly parks
C) His power numbers are probably going to look pretty good moving forward, because he plays in the TL North, where 3/4 parks are very favorable to offense
by mrkupe on Apr 17, 2025 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes I remember that now
People (myself included) did question the people who were throwing a 70 grade on his power seemingly based only on the numbers.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I am Taveras' biggest supported here
. . . and I didn’t put a 70 on his power.
I might put an 80 on his hit tool though
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 17, 2025 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
The same peopel also questioned how he would hit in the FLORIDA STATE LEAGUE, now he is mashing in the Texas League, before he turns 20 in June and, we are going to nit-pick the parks he has played in Kupe?
To me this is just an extention of folks nit-picking his awesome results of last season.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 17, 2025 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Dude, he is second in the Texas league in Total bases and, is not 20 yet. Would you prefer the 8 walk performance of Jedd Gyroko? The Buklklpen Banter fellas apparently do.
I try to be understanding and, respectful but, how on gods green earth does anybody look at those two players and, think Gyroko is a better baseball prospect? Extremely puzzling indeed.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 17, 2025 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't answer for other people
As for the total bases argument, guys who don’t walk much will do better than guys with similar power and similar PA because they end up with more ABs. Besides, I’m not even sure how that in any way relates to my post. Like I said, whether or not he had power wasn’t the real point of contention. It was how his plate discipline would play against more advanced pitching. At this point that is still very much in question given his 8:1 K:BB ratio
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He's basically
A tall Jose Altuve, in my opinion.
by kyuss94 on Apr 17, 2025 11:56 AM EDT via Android app up reply actions
8:1 ratio
As a teenager.
In AA.
In less than 45 PAs.
Can we let the kid get through April at least? I know you don’t mean it to come off as harsh as it reads, but it’s beyond early. His OPS is almost .950 by the way & the only position player on the circuit younger is the similarly precocious Jurickson Profar. May as well sit back and enjoy (yeesh.. wasn’t trying to channel Bobby Knight there by the way..).
by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks to me like he's just saying there's still a question about plate discipline.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So you bring up the small sample size problem
Then immediately go on to mention his OPS as if that is somehow more revealing. And maybe you misunderstood my comment, but I am advocating waiting to make any judgments. That’s why I said it’s still in question, as in we can’t say anything either way.
The only reason it comes across harsh to you is because you want to read it as harsh. I didn’t even say a single negative thing about Taveras. I simply mentioned that people had questioned how his plate discipline would translate against more advanced pitching and followed up by pointing out how it is not good now so there is no reason to think that question has been answered. Being harsh would be me saying that it has already been answered in the negative.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That wasn't the intent at all
My whole intended point was that the season is barely underway and that one has to really squint (or go out of one’s way almost) to fault this kid after such a minute sample. I didn’t add the OPS to attempt to trump the other ratio either. It was more or less a reminder that there isn’t a lot that Taveras isn’t doing extremely well in the smattering of ABs he’s compiled so far.
by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was faulting him?
I simply said the thing people really questioned before the season is still in question now.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont get you
Either:
A) Sample size is too small
B) Sample size is large enough to say “There isn’t a lot that Taveras isn’t doing extremely well …”
If you are going with A then Nixa is agreeing with you. If you are going with B then Nixa has countered your point with some facts that indeed he isn’t doing well in the plate discipline aspect of his game which is the primary concern.
The whole “harsh” should be retracted as the only thing harsh was the complaint itself.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Story combined with his Asheville teammates to put up 16 runs on WV
Swanner 3-4, 4 R, 2B, 2 HR, 7 RBI
Rosell Herrera 2-5, 1R
by steakman on Apr 17, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
swanner is a beast
picked him up in fantasy last year… having read his ISOP in rookie ball… had to cut him for rosters, but watch out for him
by daveh33 on Apr 17, 2025 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
just a heads up to those who do not know,
www.firstinning.com is a great site to track your favorite guys, you can mkae a list of players to follow and it has daily stats in traditional and sabermetric forms.
by miketrout on Apr 16, 2025 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
really?
who wouldve known?
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by mathisrocks5 on Apr 17, 2025 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Guess who's still hot
Matt Davidson: 2-5, 2B, HR, K
by BigG'S on Apr 16, 2025 11:38 PM EDT via Android app reply actions
monster start
to the AA season
and he’s only 21
by blue bulldog on Apr 17, 2025 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
and the strikeout to walk rate is down
and the splits against righties aren’t bad
feeling so optimistic as a Dbacks fan right now
by blue bulldog on Apr 17, 2025 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It is encouraging & I'm a big Davidson guy
It’s beginning to look a lot like Goldschmidt in Mobile again.
by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
except better, because of the splits and age
by blue bulldog on Apr 17, 2025 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
XST guy worth keeping tabs on - Javier Baez
Hit for the cycle in XST tonight. On the year in XST, he’s 9-15 with 3 home runs, 3 triples, 2 doubles, and a single. Kid can flat out hit.
by bdlugz on Apr 16, 2025 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
it's still XST
I seem to recall a lot being made a few years ago of Aaron Hicks hitting .327 in extended spring training . . .
by mrkupe on Apr 16, 2025 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Understood - just a top prospect and top draft pick that hasn't really been brought up.
I’m not saying anything more than that.
by bdlugz on Apr 16, 2025 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he's been brought up
he’s been, how shall we say this, somewhat of an ass in XST and needs to grow up a bit. I seem to recall that there were some character issues brought up during draft time and he hasn’t done much in XST to negate or address those concerns.
he’s got LOADS of talent, but LOADS of baggage, too.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 17, 2025 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I just don't see much to think one way or the other yet
On the one hand, as I said, it’s extended spring training. I’m not sure I can remembering ever hearing anything specific about XST statistics other than the aforementioned ancedote re: Hicks. What he does there really doesn’t matter - nobody cares if a player struggles, nobody cares if a player destroys the ball there.
On the other hand, I don’t recall hearing anything about Baez’ makeup pre-draft. Link to anything?
by mrkupe on Apr 17, 2025 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
well
While Baez has his backers, others point to bouts of immature behavior and difficulty in managing his emotions. “You just don’t know what you’re getting,” is a common refrain. Dickerson, who is also Baez’s legal guardian, said Baez “plays with a chip on his shoulder, plays with that edge . . . but he’s a quiet, conservative, stay-at-home kid.”
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2011/05/florida-duo-winds-down/
and
Where Lindor is smooth and lauded for his makeup, Baez is explosive and scouts generally pan his makeup. He lives with his high school coach (who is also his legal guardian), though his mother remains in the picture. His tools fit the catcher profile, but his makeup does not. He plays with energy, but it’s not always positive, and he turns off some scouts with emotional outbursts and an off-field demeanor some describe as aloof.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/2011/2611895.html
and this from Keith Law @ http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/player?id=19043&slug=javier-baez&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2fdraft%2fplayer%3fid%3d19043%26_slug_%3djavier-baez
But the biggest issue for Baez is how he acts on the field. He’s more than just flashy, he’s very showy, and he doesn’t always play like he’s fully prepared or engaged. He has as much potential impact with the bat as any prep player in this draft, but the need for a new position and questions about his on-field demeanor are going to hold down his stock.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 17, 2025 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
that's not "baggage"
that’s just having a bit of a douche-streak. Baggage is a criminal record or a substance problem. If that’s baggage, then Bryce has got his share too
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't think anyone would ever say this of Harper
he doesn’t always play like he’s fully prepared or engaged
I usually don’t have a problem with young prospects doing dumb things, but the story about him yelling at an opposing coach the other day after the guy told him to go ahead and run the bases crossed that line for me.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
the fully prepared/engaged thing is one thing
and I think that indeed would be a problem…but I haven’t heard that from anywhere else, and that definitely hasn’t been a problem so far.
the yelling at an opposing coach to me, frankly, is not nearly as bad as the Harper kiss-blowing incident. Normally, I’d say the coach should probably keep his mouth shut and let his pitcher plug Baez next time, rather than instigating something. I wasn’t there, of course, so I don’t know what the vibe was like.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey PC
Did you want to opay up on that Oscar Taveras vs Matt Szczur bet yet or, wait a while? :)
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 17, 2025 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
we should check in circa April 2015 ;)
defensive value will get me home
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol
Keep telling yourself that buddy. I give you more bonus points the sooner you give up on that one buddy :)
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 17, 2025 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
forget the bonus points
I’ll just collect my $5 when the time is right, lol
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Szczur
I haven’t checked with Biff Tannen’s almanac, but I don’t think the odds are with you.
by Matt0330 on Apr 17, 2025 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's way too early to make claims either way on those players.
I wouldn’t bet money on Szczur, but I certainly wouldn’t be calling it yet.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely disagree on Baez v. Harper incidents
I have no problem with a little trash talking or whatever between players on the field. Besides, it was pretty obvious something was said to Harper before the kiss. You don’t talk back to a coach from the other team, especially when he is rightfully calling you out for sitting at the plate and watching a HR in XST.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO
coaches should be seen and not heard, unless they truly need to make a point to the umps (or refs, in other sports) to get their team fired up. I don’t even particularly care if he was right—I’m not an arrogant person by any stretch, but if an opposing coach started directly addressing me and telling me off, my response would be “shut the f*** up” also. Maybe not as angrily as Baez did, but honestly, I really don’t mind a guy playing with some emotion, the Cubs could use some of it.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Telling him off?
He told him to run the bases. It’s XST. If you’re staring at a HR all the way down there in such a meaningless game, you’re a douchenozzle in my book. Why you would feel a coach has no right to talk to a player is beyond me. Maybe he should be a little more willing to learn something from someone who has been around the game many years longer than he has.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
perhaps because he's not his coach?
and I suppose you think the coach (who is of indeterminate age and experience, unless you can show otherwise) said politely, “I’m sorry young man, would you please perambulate in a more velocitous manner?”
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares who coach he is
He’s Baez’s elder and he’s been around the game longer than Baez has (unless you think the Angels hired a coach who ~20 and spent no time in pro baseball). And all he said was “run the bases.” The fact that you find that to somehow justify Baez’s actions is beyond me, so it seems like further discussion on the topic won’t go anywhere.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize that you cannot possibly pick up the tone in which that coach told Baez to run the bases.
I’m sure it wasn’t a pleasant suggestion… it was most likely yelled pretty aggressively, given the context.
Once again, just because you are someones elder does NOT give you the right to do or say whatever you want to them. It’s disrespectful not only to the player, but to the entire coaching staff of the opposing team you are trying to show up.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You're arguing against a 'respect your elders' point that no one is making.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
"He’s Baez’s elder and he’s been around the game longer than Baez has "
???
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Maybe he should be a little more willing to learn something from someone who has been around the game many years longer than he has.
That literally screams “respect your elders.”
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That one really doesn't
That is more of a reference to experience and understanding of how the game is played at this level.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course you can't say whatever you want
If he had told Baez to go fu@k himself, I’d agree that Baez was justified in saying whatever he wants. All he did was yell at him to run the bases from the dugout. In no way does that justify Baez’s actions.
And how the hell is that showing up the other team’s coaches. Baez is showing up everyone on the other team and they didn’t say a word. It’s their own fault that the other team’s coach had to speak up.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
"I’m sorry young man, would you please perambulate in a more velocitous manner?"
very nice… lol
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm also not sure how staring at a HR is playing with emotion
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Same way Ryan Braun does
Baez is a supremely talented and arrogant ass. But I want that arrogant ass’s production in my lineup.
by RynoRooter on Apr 17, 2025 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I have nothing against justified arrogance
Not sure hitting a HR in XST really justified his reaction and I have a bigger problem with the reaction to coach’s words.
Also, I don’t exactly consider arrogance an emotion. More of an attitude or character trait.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
not the staring, the responding with anger to a coach sticking his nose where it doesn't belong
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
One problem
Like you said, that emotion had nothing to do with playing the game and everything to do with reacting to what the Angels’ coach said.
by nixa37 on Apr 18, 2025 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
This is extended spring training.
What Baez did was showboat during practice. These games don’t count. To showboat during practice and then blow up like a baby (seriously, “I can do whatever the fuck I want? It sounds like he’s 13”) when he’s confronted about it is pretty ridiculous.
A coach has every right to call out a player for extreme unsportsmanlike acts during a practice, even a coach for the other team.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, since when is admiring a home run an "extreme unsportsman like act?"
It’s showboating, sure. But it happens daily even at the MLB level.
He’s a 19 year old kid that hit a 450 foot bomb and watched it longer than he should - it’s not like he purposefully spiked someone or tried to trip a runner…
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How often do you see a MLB stand at the plate for a few seconds?
You might see a bat flip or something, but rarely do you see anyone just standing at the plate watching. Besides, those guys are playing in actual games that mean something. Baez is in XST.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You've seriously never seen a player watch a home run ball?
Just from the team I follow, I can tell you it’s not uncommon for Soriano to do just that. Or Aramis Ramirez has been known to enjoy his home runs for a couple of seconds before running.
I’m sure there’s a player or two on EVERY team that do this at EVERY level.
Also, it may be XST, and the games don’t “count” towards anything, but these kids still care and these are actual games for them.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone once in awhile you might
And those guys generally get drilled for doing so the next time they’re up. The fact that you rarely see that happen kind of shows this isn’t a nightly thing like you claimed. There’s a difference between flipping your bat, taking a little hop, or walking the first couple steps and literally just standing at the plate and watching the ball.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, and Baez did it once...
It was not a nightly thing for him, and he should have simply gotten a ball in the ribs, just like every other baseball player.
I consider blowing a kiss to a pitcher you hit a home run off of MUCH worse than standing at the plate and admiring the shot. Neither are good practice, but if I had to choose one that my player did, it sure as hell wouldn’t be a kiss.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You're missing the point
The main issue isn’t Baez admiring his shot, but his reaction to getting called out for admiring his shot.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You're missing the point.
The issue isn’t Baez admiring his shot, it’s the Angels coaches reaction to him admiring his shot and taking it upon himself to tell an opposing player what to do.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I'm done with this conversation if this is all we can add to it.
We disagree vehemently on the actions of the Angels’ coach, and it doesn’t seem like anything we say to each other is going to alter the others perspective.
I’m fine with leaving it here, and can respect differing opinions. All I can really say about this is I’m really surprised that this was something that others would debate.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Your a Cubs fan
I’m not so sure you’d see this the same way if it wasn’t a Cubs player acting a fool. As an unbiased third party, I’ll just say I find Baez’s action completely disgraceful.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is, it has nothing to do with me being a Cubs fan.
I agree 1000% that it was a total douche move by Baez, and needs to be addressed by the Cubs immediately.
My concern is with coaches telling opposing players what to do, and that wouldn’t change regardless of what team it happened to/from, because these are ideas I believe strongly in.
I’m in no way defending the player’s actions - I’m admonishing the opposing coaches actions more is all.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Read your comment
You compared Harper’s kiss to Baez admiring his shot. No one brought this up because of Baez admiring his shot.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I didn't bring it up, PC did...
I saw it discussed a few times and simply went with it. Fair enough that it was brought up by someone else arguing my same point - making it pretty moot.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I brought it up
as comparison between kiss-blowing and then cussing at an opposing coach who yelled at you
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
but if an opposing coach started directly addressing me and telling me off, my response would be "shut the f*** up" also
your OWN coach would have you do wind sprints for WEEKS if you did that. the coaches take care of #@#$ other coaches say to their players. the players should just shut up and play.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 17, 2025 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a fair point
(but it would feel good.)
doesn’t change the obvious point that coaches should coach their own players, not yell at the other team’s guys.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
who cares what the coach did?
We are discussing prospects and how much of a tool Baez is. This whole blame the coach thing is just distracting from how much of a tool Baez was.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
well
the staring is one thing. yes, douchey, as I’ve said repeatedly—but not a mortal sin, given how much it happens. but everything else was thanks to the coach sticking his nose in, in my view, which I think is the focus of the debate
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
the staring happened twice in one week
If you keep doing it someone will say something. Baez went off the handle reacting to it.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Bottom line to me is
that this kid has some growing up to do if he’s going to make it in the majors. Yet that’s true of many players - some do (Josh Hamilton) & some don’t (Milton Bradley).
I hope he does because he clearly has loads of talent that it would be a shame to waste.
Let’s see what happens. I imagine it’s tough to be mature when you get so much so young. I’d probably be pretty full of myself too.
by Jersey Transplant on Apr 18, 2025 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
100%
These guys are kids. They will act like asses at times. Some of them will never grow up but might become superstars.
When I see what Baez did my concern isn’t that he was a complete jerk. That happens. My only concern is whether he is coachable. And this incident doesn’t say anything about that, not in itself. IMO this is the type of thing you file away and then ignore. Until it becomes relevant.
by pedrophile on Apr 19, 2025 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely agree.
A lot of kids act like jerks, and most of them grow out of it.
I only stepped in to this mess when somebody argued that the Harper “kiss” incident was much worse, because that’s ridiculous. I wish I would’ve let it go, but damn me, that’s easier said than done.
by PissedMick on Apr 19, 2025 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
To call the Harper "kiss" incident worse is laughable.
The way that happened, I’m surprised anyone but the pitcher even saw it. Baez’ extreme showboating and then screaming F-Bombs from towards the opponents’ dugout after he’s called out on it is clearly a different level of douchebaggery.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
so yeah
that’s a bit of an exaggeration
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Am I supposed to be swayed somehow by the fact that what I said is backed up completely by that article?
I don’t get it.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
you'll have to point me to where he was "screaming F-Bombs from towards [sic] the opponents' dugout"
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure thing boss
"I can do whatever the fuck I want!"
That’s at least one F-bomb and I kind of doubt that’s the only thing he said. Would you really expect a writer to quote all the expletives that were uttered?
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
but nixa
that’s the only thing reported. unless you were there, you shouldn’t say “f bombs”. just day “f bomb”.
seriously, people? we’re arguing singularity here?
Baez has proven he needs some coaching in life. but he’s young. he’s 18. give the kids some time.
i bet ALL of us here did stupid stuff when we were 18. but the level of public scrutiny is pretty ridiculous.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 17, 2025 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
I didn’t say F-bombs, someone else did
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, I'm always happy to help.
“upon reaching home plate Baez stopped and yelled back at the Angel bench, "I can do whatever the fuck I want!"’
See, ‘F-Bomb’ is a polite euphemism for the word ‘fuck’, which is a word most would consider untoward in genteel conversation.
You’ll want to focus on the part where the writer of your linked article described Baez as stopping and yelling at the opposing dugout. That’s primarily where you will find the answer you’re looking for.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
sorry, I actually read what you wrote as saying he was yelling from the dugout. adding the sic was actually important..never mind. (still only one f-bomb though.)
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah. Well I'll blame that on the lack of an 'edit' button.
That ‘from’ was a remnant from an abandoned phrasing attempt. F-Bomb/s is just semantics.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It's kind of hard to get a read on something like that from a HS kid that hit nearly .800 on the year.
He may very well have been a bit bored with the competition. I think that you’ll see a different type of work ethic from him in professional ball.
Also, I think that his character issues are minimal at this point. The kid had a crappy life and is working towards having a great one - I think that with some good direction, he’ll be able to channel that emotion into productivity.
In regards to the incident with coach, I think both parties involved were wrong. Baez shouldn’t admire shots, but a lot of kids do that crap. That said, the opposing coach has no right to tell Baez to get his ass in gear - leave the coaching to the Cubs staff and have him worry about his own team. Baez didn’t respond well either, but you can understand why he’d be a bit pissed about it.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
So you would have preferred them just drilling Baez the next time instead? You can’t pull that crap and expect no reaction at all from the opposing team.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, if the pitcher felt that Baez showed him up, let him know with some sore ribs
The game is played by the players, let them do their own work while the game is being played. The coaches have no business communicating with players of the OPPOSITE team during a game - it’s simply asking for trouble.
I’m honestly shocked this is even a discussion.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Respect your elders
And the Angels coach wouldn’t have had to speak up if the Cubs coaches were doing their job.
Besides, you’re getting on a coach for essentially stopping a dugout clearing brawl from happening in an XST game?
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
again
you know the Cubs weren’t addressing this/going to address this…how? and why was simply admiring a homer—sure a douche move, but one that happens every day at every level—going to start a dugout clearing brawl? You’re just exaggerating.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Take off the homer shades
It is not common for guys to stand at home plate for a few seconds and watch a HR. The ones that do almost invariably get drilled their next time up. Guys may do other things that slow down their trot or whatever, but they don’t just stand at home plate for a couple seconds.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
not IMO
Prince does it on practically every home run. So does Soriano. And it’s even more prevalent in the minors. This may be a judgment call, but this happens frequently IMO in the fair number of games I go to.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you arguing that what is borderline-acceptable in a major league game and in a practice for 16-18 year olds is no different?
Because when I played, you might not even get to first base if you showboated like that in a practice.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
not necessarily
but I’m not sure why it’s any worse for it to happen in instructs than on national TV in the bigs
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They don't stand at the plate
They start walking while they’re watching the ball and then enter their trot. Again, if the description is accurate and Baez STOOD at home for A COUPLE SECONDS, that is not at all normal. Feel free to provide a video of them doing what Baez supposedly did if they do it all the time.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem here is you're assuming what happened with Baez based on one report
And we don’t know if that person considers “standing at the plate” slowly taking a few steps towards first while watching the ball. Or literally not leaving the batters box for a 3 count watching the hit.
I don’t like to go too deep into assuming things like that, personally.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the source
This is coming from a Cubs reporter. You seriously think he’s making the Baez’s action out to be worse than they actually were?
And Baez was at home long enough for a coach to watch the ball, see it was gone, turn back to home plate, and see Baez was still there. That tells me this wasn’t some short thing. Prince is generally trotting within ~2 seconds of when he hits a HR. He’s certainly not still standing at the plate at that point.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair, you're assuming once again.
It’s a Cub reporter, but he’s been known to be pretty brutally honest about the Cubs teams and events that take place - if you choose to assume it’s biased, I can’t fault you, but I don’t take it with much bias personally.
Secondly, Baez’s shots have gotten out of the park QUICKLY, and just because the Angel’s coach yelled at him doesn’t mean Baez wasn’t already slowly walking down the line towards first and the coach simply felt he should be running.
Once again though, I’m not saying it wasn’t bad form by Baez. I don’t think it’s nearly as big of a deal as some, obviously, but it’s behavior i’d like to see corrected quickly.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say he was biased
I said I don’t buy that he’s making the situation out to be worse for Baez than it actually was. You’re essentially implying he is biased against the Cubs.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you didn't say he was biased... you certainly implied it with this statement
You seriously think he’s making the Baez’s action out to be worse than they actually were?
I’m not implying he’s biased against the Cubs, I clearly stated he tends to be pretty unbiased in general. Being honest about what happens doesn’t mean bias against.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
How is that implying he's biased?
I’m saying there is no reason to think he’s making it out to be worse than it was. I’m not saying he’s making it out to be better than it was.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL... okay...
That entire first paragraph SCREAMS implied bias to anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of the English language.
I’m fine with discussions, but at least back up what you write, don’t try and skirt around it.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You're ridiculous
Anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension can see I was saying he’s not biased against the Cubs, not that he’s biased towards them. If I was implying he was biased towards them, I would say it was probably worse than he made it out to be.
You’re no longer worth the time. Have a good one.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
“with a rudimentary knowledge”. Can you be more of an asshat? Really?
Many/most think Baez was a complete jerk. You apparently think it’s no big deal. You believe the coach was worse. Fine. But when you disagree on semantics you have to act like an asshole? Step away from the keyboard. Breath.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Woah, woah, woah. Are you serious right now??
First of all, let the play finish and I assure you the Cubs coaches will do what needs to be done. The only complete douche is the Angels coach for feeling the need to coach the other teams players. If he was concerned the Cubs wouldn’t work on that with Baez, address the Cubs coaches directly after the game - you never need to start crap with an opposing player as a coach.
As far as the dugout clearing brawl? Talk about assuming a little too much there. Chances are, Baez gets drilled, stares the pitcher down and walks to 1st base like 99.9% of players would. The brawl was much more likely to occur from a coach telling an opposing player to run the damn bases.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What needed to be done is Baez needed to run the bases
The fact that Cubs coaches didn’t speak up before the Angels coach tells is all I need to know.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You're kidding me...
Find me one example in all of baseball where a coach of the team at bat yelled at one of their own players to get moving.
You do your coaching in the dugout and the clubhouse, not on the field.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Find one example of a player doing this in XST
Baez was acting like a jackass out there and his coaches didn’t tell him to get going.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
At the end of the day, our entire debate comes down to
What we feel coaches have the right to do, the responsibility to do, and where they should do it.
I think we differ on all 3 of those, which makes for a big old circle.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
do you actually think
coaches should show up their own players on the field, or instead take them aside for a lecture?
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
How is that showing up?
Like I said, he was embarrassing himself and his team. Baez was the one doing the showing up. That’s not a time when you wait to teach the kid a lesson. You keep him from compounding the mistake by getting him going earlier.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
if he was embarrassing himself and his team
his own team should take care of it by punishing him or taking him aside. all the Angels coach was doing was making it worse.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Or by getting him to stop
Before he made a small issue much, much bigger, exactly like he ended up doing. If his coaches had just spoken up this would be a complete non-story.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd prefer them to apologize to the Angels and tell them they'll address it
and then address it with him. I think that’s a more effective and respectful way to do it for all parties.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
It’s NOT a game. It was a practice. In practice coaches will communicate with players.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a scrimmage - it's a baseball game against another teams XST team.
Does it count in standings? No, but it’s more than just a practice.
Coaches communicate with THEIR players, not opposing teams players.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's NOT a game
when I played in a scrimmage against other teams there were a lot of unwritten rules. There isn’t the dirty plays, no showboating, no real tough plays. It’s a friendly competition.
And when someone does something like Baez that isn’t acceptable in a game, and much less acceptable in scrimmage, a coach or a player will tell him to run the bases.
BTW - we see coaches communicate with OTHER players in MLB all the time.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This is absolutely ridiculous
You don’t think these guys are all going 100%, knowing that if they perform really well in EXST that they will be the first ones called up to A ball if an injury happens? You think it’s just a practice to these guys, who are fighting for spots on short season teams, instead of going back to the rookie league? I can assure you that you couldn’t be more wrong on this one.
by RynoRooter on Apr 17, 2025 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
did I say anything about not trying?
Players will not be called up because they took out a promising second basemens knees in a scrimmage. They won’t be called up for twice in a week taking a long admiring look at their HR. They won’t be called up for bench clearing brawls. Etc.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on "watching HRs" and "bench clearing brawls"
But if they are making good slides to break up double plays by taking out the 2B, then I would definately say that would help their cause to be promoted. The cocky stuff obviously doesn’t help anyone get promoted faster. But these guys are viewing this much more than a mere “practice”.
by RynoRooter on Apr 17, 2025 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for it is practice.
The games don’t count. There’s no Extended Spring Training Championship. Trying hard in practice gets you noticed, too.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If you need to take out someones knees
In XSP, in practice, to move up to A ball
You are not a prospect.
Further, if you need to go to this level to justify a jackass watching a HR for seconds in practice twice in one week ants then going ballistic for being told to run the bases, then I would say you are stretching it.
And the coach arg. Is stretching it. The whole “opposite team coaches should shut their mouth and let the home coach handle it” skips a couple major things. First it ignore it’s a practice. Secondly it ignores that if you piss off the oppo team enough they will say something.
Third it ignores the home team will handle it - Baez did the same thing 3 or 4 games previously. Obviously he hasn’t taken the lesson to heart. Other teams do notice these things.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The coach absolutely had the right to speak up.
Baez was blatantly insulting the players on his team. Telling Baez to move his ass could even have defused a more serious situation, as the players didn’t have to take it into their own hands.
by PissedMick on Apr 17, 2025 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I am in absolute shock that people here can actually advocate that coaches have any right to talk to opposing players at ANY level
I’d be upset if a coach playing against my kids little league team told him to do something - it’s not his place. EVER.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You've never coached little league have you?
As someone who has you better believe I’m more than willing to talk to a player on the other team about something if I think it is warranted. As it’s little league baseball, pretty much everything you say is nice and positive, but I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that a coach doesn’t have a right to yell at a grown man for doing something so obviously disrepectful.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I do coach, and have enough respect for the other team that if I have a problem with a player
I take it up with the opposing coach AFTER the game. The only time I’ll ever get involved with another teams players is if a fight breaks out.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
precisely.
If I ever saw this, me and the other coach would have MAJOR problems. talk to me if you want, not to the kids.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So if you saw a 12 year old cursing out an opponent
You wouldn’t say a word to him while it was happening?
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd make sure my kid didn't do something stupid back
And after the game I’d address the issue to the opposing coach.
That kid on the other team isn’t my responsibility or my concern. My kid is, and I handle what I have the authority to handle.
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
"a right to yell at a grown man for doing something so obviously disrepectful"
12/1/92. that’s Baez’s birthday. he might be able to smoke and go to war, but he’s not a grown man. The fact that he’s a kid is clearly missing from your calculations.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You cut 19 year olds much bigger breaks than I do
Your damn right I think that’s old enough to get called out for your jackassery.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
you seem to be very sure
that the Cubs weren’t going to address the situation. I’m not sure why.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't wait until the situation gets much worse
If I was the coach I would have been yelling as soon as I noticed what he was doing. It would have defused the situation too since the other team is making it clear that they agree the actions are completely unacceptable.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what you would have done
it’s not what a lot of coaches would do. I don’t think we need to take this further
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"it’s not what a lot of coaches would do"
And you’re basing this on what exactly?
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel pretty comfortable with that claim based on the fact I've followed baseball my entire life
And I’ve never once heard of a coach yell at another teams player like that?
Notice no coaches yelling at these players? They tend to stand and watch a while too, since we seem to be stuck on this being a rare occurrence:
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Did you not notice that most of those are walk off HRs? Of course guys are going to react a little differently there and that’s much more understandable than Baez reacting similarly in an XST game.
BTW, I didn’t see a single person in the video who actually stood at the plate for a couple seconds like Baez supposedly did.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you show me the video of what Baez actually did?
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course not
We’re both going off the report of the Cubs reporter who has absolutely no reason to make it out to be worse than it is since he doesn’t have a bias against the Cubs (is that explicit enough for you to understand I’m not saying he’s biased towards the Cubs or do I need to speak more slowly and use smaller words?).
Like I said above, I’m done with this conversation.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You kind of missed my point with that one....
by bdlugz on Apr 17, 2025 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No
You make valid statements that nixa is not 100% sure of. Then you state as fact that the oppo coach is yelling at Baez. I think you are missing the point.
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
well
I think we can be pretty sure he wasn’t whispering
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
only on SB Nation can
We have a situation in which a teenager with something of an attitude problem was clearly doing something well beyond the bounds of civil play . . .and the focus of discussion gets shifted to whether or not we should be really talking about the opposing team’s coach, lol.
It’s like Hotair.com for sports nerds of particular persuasions.
by mrkupe on Apr 17, 2025 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
does that make deadspin by reference drudge?
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 17, 2025 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding
10 minutes of my life I’ll never get back…4 minutes to read enough to realize there wasn’t really any info worth reading for, and then 6 minutes to tab through the rest of the comments :)
by MjwW on Apr 17, 2025 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
and are you surprised fans of said player/team shifted the focus away from the player to the opposing coach?
by pedrophile on Apr 17, 2025 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps
I’m also not surprised that people can’t respond to meritorious arguments without using accusations of homerism as a crutch.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 18, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Leading the league
in cursing out opposition coaches too!
by charles wallace on Apr 16, 2025 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Christian Friedrich
7 IP|4 H|1 ER|0 BB|6 K
against a lineup with Gose/Hech/Snider/d’Arnaud 1-4 as well
by steakman on Apr 17, 2025 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
what's with this guy?
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 17, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it at all
he looks like he’s back to his 2009 form, in the PCL no less
by steakman on Apr 17, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm very tempted to pick him up
i want to give it another start but it might be too late
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Apr 17, 2025 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
WTH?
I bagged and tagged this guy two years go. Sheesh! Good for him.
"Hosmer right in between Carter and Alvarez…. what is this list based on? height?" -- okteds, visionary (1/28/10)
by criminal type on Apr 17, 2025 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i have been a big backer of him around here
But I know of this narrative goes, just when he takes a couple steps forward he often makes a giant leap back…anybody have stuff reports?
by St.Steve on Apr 17, 2025 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The beat writer for the Rockies from the Denver Post
has been raving about his improvement all spring long. I wasn’t able to listen to the game last night, so I don’t know exactly how his stuff looked, but the main concerns the past couple of years have just been straight-up hittability, and he’s posted a 5.6 H/9 thus far this year against some very good lineups.
by steakman on Apr 17, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Friedrich now at 18/3 K/BB 1.79 GO/AO over his first 3 starts supposedly his Curve is back to evil
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
by TomCat009 on Apr 17, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Matzek
6 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
Another excellent start. ERA down to 1.72 on the season. 8 walks in 16 innings, which isn’t too bad considering(steadily improving, at least) and 19 strikeouts. He’s getting me excited again.
Alanna Rizzo is my dream girl.
by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Apr 17, 2025 12:57 AM EDT reply actions
Considering that 3 of his last 4BB have come in the final inning of his outing
he really seems to be headed in the right direction
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
by TomCat009 on Apr 17, 2025 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Tommy La Stella and Joey Terdoslavich updates anyone?
Also Jarek Cunningham stinks… right now
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 17, 2025 1:59 AM EDT reply actions
huh?
Jarek is at .273/.351/.455, with 4 of his 9 hits of the XBH variety… he’s doing fine in his first taste of AA
by daveh33 on Apr 17, 2025 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
also hit a 400 foot oppo homer last night
Via Tim Williams’ retweet
by Woo! on Apr 17, 2025 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
nice
dude definitely has power. just needs to up his BB% and stay healthy. great bat for a 2B
by daveh33 on Apr 17, 2025 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
jarrod parker, final line
6 ip’s, 7 k’s, 2 bb’s, 1 earned run, 1 hr, 6 hits
grant green and miles head had a triple each, both went 1-4
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 17, 2025 2:33 AM EDT reply actions
Matt Dominguez 3 - 4, doubled three times
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 17, 2025 3:06 AM EDT reply actions
Kyle Waldrop
2/3, 2B, 3B, 2BB
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 6:46 AM EDT reply actions
Good name
Saw him in ST last year and he showed a surprisingly good approach. No doubting the physical tools.
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Mr. Odor has taken off
3/4, HR(2)
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 6:49 AM EDT reply actions
Aaron Altherr
3/4, 2B, 3B
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 6:50 AM EDT reply actions
Christian Yelich
2/3, 3B, SB, 2BB, K
2nd game of the season.
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 6:57 AM EDT reply actions
Sean Coyle
3/4, 2B, K
Had gotten off to a tough start but appears to be back on track.
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 7:01 AM EDT reply actions
Chris Owings
3/4, 2B, HR(2), K
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 7:03 AM EDT reply actions
yeah
he depresses me
but still young at least, so you can at least dream that the strikeout rate comes down
by blue bulldog on Apr 17, 2025 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Scooter Gennett
3/4, 2 HR
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 7:10 AM EDT reply actions
My favorite Yankee sleeper Nik Turley
7 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 7 K, 10/2 GB/FB
On the season:
18 IP, 20 K, 5 BB, 17 H, 1.00 ERA
by cookiedabookie on Apr 17, 2025 9:43 AM EDT reply actions
Interesting
What’s the scouting report on his stuff?
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
intriguing kid
if i’m not mistaken, he has a good sinker that peaks at 92/93, good curve and a decent change. big lefty.
by toonsterwu on Apr 17, 2025 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
His change is his second best pitch
Curve is good, but command of it is erratic. His fastball has seen a spike so far this year, from 89-91 to 92-94. He is a 6’7" lefty with a low 90s fastball. He was drafted in the 50th and final round of 2008, but signed for sixth round money, $125,000, to break his commitment to BYU. He has moved along slowly in the Yankees system. Last year, as a 21 year old in Charleston, he had a 3.53 FIP, a 9.0 K/9, and a 3.90 K/BB. He missed the last month to a broken hand from a line drive in his second start in Tampa.
by cookiedabookie on Apr 17, 2025 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome if you know what I mean
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 12:34 PM EDT reply actions
Zachary Cone, OF, Rangers
3-4 with a HR.
Very toolsy athlete who looked like a first rounder before biting it his junior college season (a season when his best friend and teammate was paralyzed from an on field accident), but who was still taken as a supplemental first-rounder because of potentially all-star caliber tools.
310/383/619 in 11 Sally League games. 11 strikeouts/4 walks.
by gogotabata on Apr 17, 2025 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
I'm a big fan
I have to think he played a big role in the Rangers drafting Johnathan Taylor late in the draft as well. I thought that was pretty cool on the part of the club, and presumably Cone.
by nixa37 on Apr 17, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean seriously
the Rangers’ scouts and FO are the best in the business.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 17, 2025 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Javier Baez is humble.
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 17, 2025 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Don't start that again...please... lol
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a crazy discussion
about him earlier in the thread…he’s young, dumb and talented…who cares…he’ll grow up sooner or later
by miraclemets on Apr 17, 2025 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wish
I could say I’m surprised. Let’s just say that Baez isn’t the only one who thinks he can do what ever the f*** he wants. lol
by charles wallace on Apr 17, 2025 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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