Community Positional Prospect #18 RUNOFF
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 11:58 AM EST
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PrintWith 20.3% and 18.9% of the vote respectively, Brett Jackson and Jake Marisnick will face off head to head to determine the 18th positional prospect.
POSITIONAL RESULTS SO FAR
#01 - BRYCE HARPER - 59.2%
#02 - MIKE TROUT - 38.8% (In Poll #1)
#03 - JURICKSON PROFAR - 52.9%
#04 - MANNY MACHADO - 31.5% (55.1% In Runoff)
#05 - DEVIN MESORACO - 45.1%
#06 - WILL MYERS - 31.6% (51.4% In Runoff)
#07 - JESUS MONTERO - 61.3%
#08 - ANTHONY RENDON - 53.1%
#09 - TRAVIS D'ARNAUD - 46.6%
#10 - NOLAN ARENADO - 33.3%
#11 - MIGUEL SANO - 37.3%
#12 - YONDER ALONSO - 22.5% (45.3% In 3-Way Runoff)
#13 - FRANCISCO LINDOR - 26.1%
#14 - BUBBA STARLING - 33.8%
#15 - XANDER BOGAERTS - 25.0% (55.2% In 3-Way Runoff)
#16 - ANTHONY RIZZO - 27.8%
#17 - OSCAR TAVERAS - 40.3%
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by casejud on Nov 26, 2025 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
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holding my nose………like marisnick, just not here.
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Marisnick
Went with Marisnick. Showed a surprising amount of power this early in his career, great speed, struck out less than Jackson and I think Jackson is going to struggle to hit for a good avg a lot in the bigs with those strikeout numbers. He should still be plenty valuable with the walks + decent pop.
Jackson PCL numbers were great but his AA numbers, nothing impressive about it. Gose hit similarily while being 2 years younger and has an elite speed tool to go along with it.
Jackson could be pretty damn good though if he can manage to cut down his strikeouts just a bit.
by Sniderlover on Nov 26, 2025 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
For what it's worth
I haven’t read a bad scouting report on Marisnick in center from this year, I guess the concern is that he’ll outgrow the position which is possible but merely speculative.
by The_Bunk on Nov 27, 2025 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Abstaining
I think these guys are both too high … can’t pull the trigger on either one.
by Traindogger on Nov 26, 2025 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a huge fan of either, either.
If these guys were going to be really solid CF, I’d be satisfied with either. But it looks like both will eventually be corner guys or maybe play poor CF on a team that needs it (which does have some value). The K rate for Jackson is a concern, and his upside is lower than Marisnick, but Marisnick is below a lot of other upside types for me, and Jackson is at least sort of near the top of the guys closer to being ML ready. I think I only prefer Grandal to Jackson among guys closer to the majors.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
as a side note
Jackson’s CF play improved a lot this year, and he’s viewed as an above average defensive player. If he gets pushed off CF before his prime years for defensive purposes (and not related to his offense), it’s going to be because someone was better than him, and not an indictment of his defensive ability. I’m not so sure that he couldn’t be an above average CF through his prime years as well, but that’s certainly a bit more debatable.
by toonsterwu on Nov 27, 2025 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well
I’ve read the opposite in recent reports. We’ll find out I guess, but with defense we can probably debate whether someone is below average or above average even after years of data.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 27, 2025 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I like Marisnick but Jackson seems like an easy choice here
power, speed, plate discipline, defense, excellent instincts/makeup, and close to the majors (and will be only 23 next season.)
Ks/average are a valid concern, but even if he’s only a .270ish hitter for his career, he’ll be very valuable. Pitch recognition is not the problem, that’s clear from the walks—a couple BP articles have talked about how the strikeouts are more connected to periods of trying too hard to generate power.
Not sure where the knock on his defense came from—as he slows down, like a lot of guys he may end up at a corner, but most analysts seem to think he’ll play an above average CF for a while.
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Can I get a link
That says he’ll be above average (or even average) at CF?
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
sure
BA link is here:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2012/2612583.html
summarized: “Jackson isn’t a blazer, but he has plus speed that enables him to get the job done on the bases and in the outfield…Likewise, he gets good jumps and takes nice routes in the outfield. He has played all three outfield positions in pro ball, and his average, accurate arm is enough for right field if he eventually moves to a corner…He has the upside of Jim Edmonds at the plate, if not the same Gold Glove ability in center field.”
that’s average to above average, I’d say. Even in the recent BP list, KG said “He’s a solid center fielder and even better in a corner thanks to his arm, which is also a tick above average.”
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Well
The BA thing is definitely not saying he’s average or above. That reads as below average CF, more likely a corner OF. KG seems to be an exception by saying he’s solid (which still probably means a tick below average) in CF.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Several other recent reports
Are down on his CF ability as well. Here. And here.
I think the universal view is he could be an above average corner OF or a serviceable below average CF that might need move off the position, but might be able to stick there as well, depending on the team needs.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Without going into specifics
I am fairly confident that a lot of … folks that watched him this year view him as an above average defensive CF with above average defensive CF potential in the bigs. The issue for many, that I’ve heard, is whether or not he can be an above average CF around the 29-32 age range, and that’s certainly more debatable. I don’t know where those two reports got their defensive information, but they are more in line with the views last year, and there were legitimate concerns about his defense last year in CF.
Now, all that said, it doesn’t mean Brett is definitely going to be an above average CF.
by toonsterwu on Nov 27, 2025 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
to expound a bit further
Jackson’s got above average range. Not plus range, but he can cover the ground without concerns. Arm strength is fine, a tick above average for most although I’m aware some folks have it as average.
The issue last year was that he was a bit … for lack of a better term right now … sloppy on his reads and took some bad angles at times. I know one guy that thought he was more Eric Byrnes last year - able to make the occasional flashy play, often due to his own mistake, but the consistency as a good defender wasn’t there. The general sentiment around has been that he’s largely cleaned things up on his reads and angles, and I know some folks that feel that he actually showed more range this year (I always find year to year range changes to be debatable, I’m more likely to believe that the better range he showed this year was more a by-product of improved reads and angles to the balls than it was pure “range”).
Now, some wonder how his body will change at it matures. He doesn’t look like the type of kid that should get into a lot of trouble body wise (unless he doesn’t work at it, and there’s no indication of that), so the bigger question is when he loses that extra step that allows him to have above average range right now.
All that said, barring a surprise, he’ll likely come up in the Cubs system, and the Cubs have two better defensive centerfielders behind that show some level of intrigue for the pros (Szczur is the obvious and most likely to stay solid, but Ha might be the best defensive centerfielder of the trio but he too has some concerns about how well his defensive abilities will be in his late 20’s - that said, his bat is a big, big question mark as of now).
by toonsterwu on Nov 27, 2025 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
disagree
how does the BA article, which concludes with saying that Jackson could have Edmonds-like ability in CF, read as him being “below average”? That’s a pretty bizarre conclusion based on what was written…plus speed/good jumps/nice routes/average but accurate arm=?
here’s PP: “Defensively, Jackson wasn’t challenged but he showed quick instincts and reactions to the balls hit his way. He only had one opportunity to show off his arm, but he held a runner at third and cut his throw down to make sure he hit the cutoff man. His arm action was excellent and even though it was a short throw, you could see the ball had good carry and flight. It’s hard to give a grade based on seeing a tiny morsel of his arm strength, but it was at the very minimum average for center field.”
http://projectprospect.com/article/2011/08/10/brett-jackson-and-ryan-flaherty-game-report
I think the view you’re espousing is far from “universal.”
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
The BA article says “He has the upside of Jim Edmonds at the plate, if not the same Gold Glove ability in center field.” That means Jackson doesn’t have “Edmonds-like ability in CF” in their view, not that he might.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
I read that to mean the opposite, as “if not” = “maybe even” or “possibly,” e.g. “This trip will take at least three hours, if not four” or “Abraham Lincoln was one of the greatest presidents, if not the greatest president.” I can see how you might read it that way though. Based on context, I think my interpretation is more likely to be correct, but ymmv.
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
ymmv?
Love a discussion about language. I understand the point. I’d argue that when “if not” is used within a class of things, it is inclusive of the alternative - your examples show this common use. However, I’d say that when it is used between classes, it expresses skepticism at best and often exclusion: “He’s very charismatic, if not the sharpest knife in the drawer”.
I think the confusion arises because “if not” is more often used within a class than otherwise.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
ymmv="your mileage may vary"
there have been more than a few random linguistic discussions on this board. Your point about usage between classes is well-taken—whether this is one of these cases (different attributes of the same player: same class or different?) seems ambiguous to me. I suppose I’ll tweet @jimcallis to see if he can clarify.
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm, perhaps “class” wasn’t quite the right word. I suppose I should have said that if not can be used to describe amounts or degrees of a given thing or quality (your examples); but when used disjunctively, “if not” excludes the other category.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I voted for Jackson so I don't think he stinks or anything
But you are totally misreading the BA quote. "He has the upside of Jim Edmonds at the plate, if not the same Gold Glove ability in center field." That is conceivably ambiguous if you don’t read anything else they write about him, but with context it is fairly certain that they mean he has the offensive upside of Jim Edmonds, even though he doesn’t have Edmond’s Gold Glove ability.
The project prospect quote was almost exclusively about his arm, which is generally not considered the most important CF quality. Saying he wasn’t challenged, just means he didn’t have an opportunity to show whether he would be good in CF or not, only that he seemed to have good instincts, which I don’t doubt based on the common (if not universal) opinion that he has potential to be a plus corner outfielder.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
see above
also, whatever your reading of the last quote, that doesn’t address the other things they wrote about him, which you seem to think were negative, but they don’t read that way to me at all…
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
no, they are positive
he should be a good corner outfielder, and can probably hold down CF if needed. that is without any doubt, positive. it just isn’t glowing.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
as far as BA goes
i agree, it is used many times the way you read it, but the context just makes it obvious what they are saying. if you think they are saying he might be a gold-glover in CF, why wouldn’t they have him listed as the long-term CF. why would they say the other things they said about his defense? that he doesn’t have blazing speed, but can “get the job done.” that screams “serviceable” and definitely below average.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough
I disagree about the context and meaning, but I think reasonable minds can differ. He’s not listed as the long-term CF probably because while Jackson is average or above average longterm, Szczur is phenomenal.
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I would disagree
“if not” is a defined term meaning “and perhaps.” It’s used to signal a potential and better outcome. I don’t know how BA could write all those positive things about his D and then bring up a Jim Edmonds comparison for defensive purposes? If he’s not a JE comp, both for offense and defense, why not bring up another comp? There are plenty of comps for Jackson’s bat in and of itself.
by Mike Kaluk on Nov 26, 2025 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
then the rest of what they say
makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the best way
to explain is that not all baseball scouts are good writers. You know, unless they’re old History majors.
by Mike Kaluk on Nov 26, 2025 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
yes agreed
they used the “if not” in an unconventional way. but the context made it pretty clear.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 26, 2025 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jackson v. Marisnick v. Gose
I voted for Jackson originally, and am reconsidering, in large part due to Jackson’s strikeout rate. He seems to have a lot in common with Anthony Gose, both with real questions about their swing-and-miss. Jackson has more power and more walks, but Gose adds more speed on the bases and better defence, and is two years younger. If Marisnick is ahead of Gose (as the general consensus seems to be) then I probably should reverse my vote.
Where am I going wrong here, if at all?
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 4:45 PM EST reply actions
Jackson has shown he can hit for average, even with the strikeouts
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by Pikachu on Nov 26, 2025 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
nobody’s true talent level is a .400 BABIP, and that’s what it took for Jackson to get a good avg in AAA. Bill James seems optimistic to me, projecting Jackson for a .330 BABIP and that still only gets him to a .250 average.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
his career minor league AVG is .292
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by Pikachu on Nov 26, 2025 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
With some very high BABIPs. He probably has some BABIP skill, but he’s almost certainly benefiting from some luck there as well. He also didn’t strike out quite as much at lower levels.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I would think after 100+ AB we can start drawing some conclusions
by cookiedabookie on Nov 26, 2025 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I did say Jackson probably has some BABIP skill, perhaps I should have been stronger. But BABIPs in the minors don’t always translate well, given the poorer fields, generally poorer defence and inferior pitching.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
don't know
what really to think of Jackson’s AA year. Some stats pre- and post-injury:
April 7 to May 11 (112 ABs): .295 AVG, 21%BB rate, and 27%K rate.
May 30 to July 11 (134 ABs): .224 AVG, 16%BB rate, 33% K rate.
He was promoted to AAA despite that horrible performance after coming back from injury.
My initial thoughts are they were truly thinking about calling him up if they could deal Byrd or Soriano. But they didn’t. Perhaps on July 11 they thought they needed to get him to the next level regardless to keep him positive. Again, just trying to piece this together a bit b/c his season, and his promotion mid-slump, were puzzling.
Also of note, his K rate in high A and AA was 20% and 23% respectively. This year it jumped in both AA and AAA. Perhaps pressing a bit or trying to hit for more power? Regardless, if his K rate were to drop again and he became more of a gap hitter, he’s a no brainer for me here.
by Mike Kaluk on Nov 26, 2025 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
agree with you on a .400 BABIP being unrealistic
but I would direct your attention to #17 on this same list, however, and a certain .440 BABIP in A+…
Jackson has bounced around in terms of BABIP, way down in AA in last year and way up in AAA. Across the minors, he’s hit .292 with around a .355 BABIP (roughly.) So I don’t think James is all that optimistic—and even still, I’ll take a projection that puts him at a 780 OPS/.342 wOBA in his first half-season in the majors.
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
whoa there
two totally different situations
it’s not about who’s BABIP is higher/more likely to regress. in fact, i’d venture to ask which good prospect turned major leaguer did not have a relatively high BABIP in the minors?
Taveras, however, struck out only 15% of the time last year. In contrast, Jackson struck out 30% of the time. If you want to say that they were at different levels, when Jackson was in A-ball, he struck out 25% of the time, despite being two years older at the time than Taveras is now.
i just don’t see how Jackson is going to be able to be an everyday player given his absurd strikeout rates.
by blue bulldog on Nov 26, 2025 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
"i just don’t see how Jackson is going to be able to be an everyday player given his absurd strikeout rates"
that’s a strong statement—I would tend to agree with you on guys who have bad pitch recognition, but Jackson’s not one of those guys. Lots of high walk/high strikeout guys are valuable every day players. I also think Jackson’s K-rate will likely decline as he improves at letting his natural swing do the work, and not pressing for power.
The BABIP point was only meant to note that at #17 there’s a guy who made it there primarily based on an extremely high-BABIP year at A ball (not A+ as I said originally.) Not sure how the strikeouts affect this point—Jackson walked twice as much as Taveras did, but I don’t think that affects it either. I may be missing what you mean though.
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 26, 2025 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
"lots of high walk/high strikeout guys are valuable every day players"
……..in the majors, not in the minors
http://www.fangraphs.com/minorleaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=6&qual=150&type=1&season=2008
i tried to look for Southern League hitters who had at least a minimum of 150 PA. if you sort for strikeout rate, and you look at guys who strike out around 25% of the time (i’m actually giving Brett Jackson the benefit of the doubt here, as i’m using his AA numbers as opposed to the 30% rate in AAA) you don’t get a pretty picture. you’re essentially hoping he turns into Lorenzo Cain. Jordan Schafer is also really similar. both these guys were 22 when they were in the SOU league (just like Jackson).
if you look at the 2007 and 2009 list of SOU players, and guys around 25% strikeout rates, it’s equally depressing.
i don’t have enough time to look through every year, but the only prospect in history that i can think of who had a high strikeout rate at AA in the Southern League, and still turned out to be above average, was Mike Stanton. and he posted his 29% K rate there as a 19 year old. when he got a second chance to go through the Southern League, his strikeout rate dropped down to 22%.
anyway, just trying to show that history has the odds heavily stacked against Jackson for being able to be an everyday player at the major league level.
by blue bulldog on Nov 26, 2025 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Depressing reading
There literally is not a single impact big-leaguer with a 24%+ K rate in the 6 or 7 AA seasons I just looked at. I’m hoping Gose makes an impact in the Majors, but the strikeouts are an big negative.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 27, 2025 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
exactly
if guys like Jackson turn into quality major leaguers, it would be pretty damn historical
to be honest, i’m pretty surprised Jackson is so well-regarded by some
as for Gose, the strikeout rate is still worrisome, but at least, he was insanely young for AA. there’s a not insignificant chance he can improve his contact ability. i wouldn’t exactly lump him in the same category as Jackson, and i would definitely consider him a better prospect than Jackson.
by blue bulldog on Nov 27, 2025 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
I (obviously) don't find it surprising at all
those are interesting (and not promising) numbers for sure, but while strikeouts are strikeouts, Jackson has much better plate discipline and pitch recognition skills than most of the guys on those lists (certainly more than Schafer or Cain.) So I don’t think you can quite lump him in with the rest of them and say it will be an extraordinary feat for him to be a solid major leaguer, especially when he also has a better all-around game than those guys as well.
And just a sampling of some of Jackson’s comps’ minor league K-rates:
Jim Edmonds, age 22 in AA: 33.7%
Mike Cameron (another comp), age 22-23 in two AA seasons: 26.9%
Curtis Granderson at AAA: 29.0%. at AA: 20.6%
some other more recent guys:
Mark Reynolds in two partial seasons at AA: 27.9%
Drew Stubbs across A+/AA/AAA in his age 23 season: 26.2% (28.6% at A)
BJ Upton across two AA partial seasons: 25.4% (younger at the level of course)
Jay Bruce across A+/AA/AAA in his age 20 season: 25.9%
by PrincetonCubs on Nov 27, 2025 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Your Math looks off
Are you using K/AB rather than K/PA? Stubbs, for example just had a 19.8% rate at AA according to FG, Reynolds at 24.5 between two seasons, and Bruce around 23%.
I don’t have the time to look at all of them, but these comps aren’t as heartening as at first glance.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 27, 2025 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
just curious
why do you think Jackson has better pitch recognition/plate discipline than Schafer did, back then?
Schafer: 14% BB, 25% K, .202 ISO, 130 wRC+
Jackson: 15% BB, 25% K, .187 ISO, 124 wRC+
they look incredibly similar to me, especially in terms of pitch recognition/plate discipline
note: scouts seemed to really like Schafer back then too, since he was BA’s 25th prospect prior to 2008, and BA’s 42nd prospect prior to 2009.
by blue bulldog on Nov 27, 2025 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Injury
Jackson had an injury too if I recall correctly…his splits in AA were really good pre-injury. Then obviously took off again in AAA. Also worth noting: prior to his injury and his AA stats dipping off, he was heavily rumored to be called up to the Cubs if they could make the right moves before the deadline. Not getting the call might have been demoralizing for his last few weeks in AA. This is just conjecture, but a definite possibility.
by Mike Kaluk on Nov 26, 2025 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Choice
Also, just to offer, I might put Choice in this discussion of CF as well. I might vote for him over Jackson and def over Marisnick. He showed a steady and impressive decline in his K rate throughout the year without losing his power. He also maintained a nice BB% and was killing the ball from July through the end of the AFL. While Gose may always be a better D, I think he showed in the AFL (by way of playing CF over Gose) that his D is more than adequate for CF.
He might move quickly through AA and get a Sept call up next year.
by Mike Kaluk on Nov 26, 2025 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure that I read the AFL decision the way you do. Clearly the A’s specifically wanted Choice to play centre, probably to work on his defence. Maybe Choice’s D is good, maybe adequate, maybe poor, but him playing centre over Gose in a development league probably indicates the A’s are a little concerned about some aspect of his play there.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I know that pre-draft Choice was expected to have to shift to a corner; maybe he won’t, but that doesn’t speak well of his CF defence.
by gabrielsyme on Nov 26, 2025 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Voting closed
Jackson wins this one by 10 votes, with 58.9% of the vote.
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 27, 2025 12:03 PM EST reply actions
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