2007 Minnesota Twins Prospects REMASTERED!
After thinking about it for a couple of days and considering your comments, I've decided that the Twins list needs revision. So, here it is, the
2007 Minnesota Twins Prospects, REMASTERED and in HIGH-DEFINITION
- Matt Garza, RHP, Grade A- (grade A was too high)
- Kevin Slowey, RHP, Grade B+ (no change)
- Chris Parmalee, OF, B+ (no change)
- Anthony Swarzak, RHP, B+ (no change)
- Glen Perkins, LHP, B (no change)
- Pat Neshek, RHP, B (increased from B-)
- Alexander Smit, LHP, B- (no change)
- Eduardo Morlan, RHP, B- (no change)
- Alexi Casilla, 2B, B- (no change)
- Paul Kelly, SS, B- (no change)
- Jeff Manship, RHP, B- (no change)
- Whit Robbins, 1B, C+ (no change)
- Brian Duensing, LHP, C+ (no change)
- Kyle Waldrop, RHP, C+ (dropped from B- and 12 which was too high)
- Oswaldo Sosa, RHP, C+ (no change)
- Zach Ward, RHP, C+ (no change)
- Joe Benson, OF, C+ (no change)
- Erik Lis, 1B, C+ (no change in grade but dropped from 13)
- Jose Mijares, LHP, C+ (no change)
- Garrett Olson, 3B, C+ (no change)
- David Winfree, 3B, C (I might raise that to C+ but the fact is that I don't trust his plate discipline at all and makeup questions have to be addressed.
- Matt Moses, 3B. Rating him below Olson is controversial I admit, but Moses looked terrible to me in the Arizona Fall League and I am souring on his bat.
I find it ironic that my Twins list proved to be the most troublesome of all the lists. I am most familiar with the Twins of all the organizations, being a life-long Twins fan, and I probably overcompensate for this to some extent by being harder on some of their prospects in order to avoid playing favorites. You guys helped me clarify my thinking about this. Thanks.
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Garza
As it is, he was thrown into MLB action, and actually held his own very well, making 9 crucial starts in a pennant race. Despite his 50 innings at the MLB level capping a long 33-start season, he still managed to put up a 4.76 ERA with respectable strikeout numbers once he got past his first-start jitters.
Garza is unquestionably the best pitching prospect to debut last year, and the only two I think have legitimate claims to the #1 pitching prospect spot besides Garza are Hughes and Bailey (and personally I would put Hughes ahead of him and Bailey even or slightly ahead).
by limozeen on Nov 18, 2025 7:39 PM EST 0 recs
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by Metty5 on
Nov 18, 2025 8:09 PM EST
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Garza
If anything, I think John is overcompensating for his Twins love by minusing Garza's grade. Keep two things in mind: (1) at the beginning of the year, we'd have been thrilled if Garza had successfully transitioned to AA in his second pro season, let alone been a solid MLB contributor, and (2) Garza's numbers were arguably the best in the minors this year despite advancing two levels and making the AA transition.
by limozeen on
Nov 18, 2025 8:30 PM EST
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No way
Given the fact people in the diaries were willing to say they'd take Santana and Liriano (but not Santana and Garza) over Cain and Lincecum is very telling.
I think John did the right thing.
by Jurgen on
Nov 18, 2025 8:22 PM EST
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Re: Lincecum vs. Garza. New toys are often shiny. Hopefully they don't lose their luster (or break) when you take them out of the box.
by limozeen on
Nov 18, 2025 8:33 PM EST
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Trevor
by Con on Nov 18, 2025 9:17 PM EST 0 recs
Romero
John, I see you don't even have him top 20 and he's not even the top OF (by far) in the organization.
What are your thoughts about him?
by Shep on Nov 18, 2025 9:54 PM EST 0 recs
I think Garza should be an A.
4 plus pitches? Check.
Complete domination of minors at 3 different levels this year? Check.
Looks like a grade A prospect to me.
by Justin & Joe on Nov 18, 2025 10:46 PM EST 0 recs
Why wouldnt Garzas stuff be good enough to be a #1
Garza thorws around 95 as well, and has great control and 2 other plus pitches. I see no reason why his ceiling in the majors isnt as high as a hughes.. i understand that bailey because of his upper 90s stuff will have higher upside.
I sitll think with prospects we always tend to look at raw stuff and "potential" and not at what they have actually done. I think we have seen enough hard throwing busts because they cant throw strikes to realize that throwing hard isnt the only way to be an ace. Obviously tools are very important (e.g. i had a great change, but i threw 84 and was righty... i would've been meat in the upper minors let alone the majors) but dont ignore Garzas ability to throw quality stikes with plus stuff.
by jbluestone on Nov 18, 2025 11:08 PM EST 0 recs
LOL
So yes, he can reach 96 but without great command. Yes, he has good movement on his offspeed pitches but major leaguers hammer his mistakes.
Right now, he's not an A grade pitcher. He didn't overpower major league hitters like Verlander and Liriano... he just showed flashes of greatness.
I also don't see an ace in Garza, but he could be a good #2. And yes, I know some of you are going to bring up his walk rates in the minors to defend his command, but the hitters in the low minors aren't the same as the hitters in the majors. Major league hitters will lay off some of those offspeed pitches with movement if they aren't in the zone... and that's why Garza ran into some problems.
If Garza is an A, then Rich Hill should have been an A going into this year with his utter dominance of AA and AAA... and we know he wasn't. A- is the correct grade and I'm glad John made the change.
by youALREADYknow on Nov 19, 2025 2:16 PM EST 0 recs
so
BA says that Garza's curve and slider are plus pitches, as is his fastball. BA also said Garza had the best control in the Eastern League. Yeah, that's the one Phil Hughes plays in too.
Maybe your definition of a Grade A pitcher is one who puts up Nintendo numbers in his first 50 MLB innings. But I think that a pitcher who advanced four levels, who has three plus pitches scouts rave about, whose tremendous control shows in both the numbers and the scouting reports, and who is light years ahead of the rest of his draft class is the definition of Grade A.
by limozeen on
Nov 19, 2025 3:23 PM EST
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grade
If you're going to give Hughes and Bailey A+, then Garza would be an A.
As it stands now, there is no A+ grade and therefore Garza is an A-.
As for this business of 3 plus pitches, I didn't see them when I watched him in the majors. I saw a curve that was consistently hammered and a fastball that lost command when pushed past 95MPH. When he used the fastball in the 93-94 range he was very effective and there were occasional innings where his curveball wasn't hung and was effective. The difference between a plus pitch and a potential plus pitch is how effective it is against major league batters... if his curve was inconsistent in the majors, then it's still a plus potential pitch.
So IMO he has 2 plus pitches and a third potential plus pitch. Still an outstanding prospect and an A- is nothing to scoff at, but not a pure A grade "top of the line Liriano/Felix/Verlander" pitcher.
by youALREADYknow on
Nov 19, 2025 6:32 PM EST
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Faulty logic
High school and college pitchers are apples and oranges when it comes to age and league. Garza moved up the ladder as fast a college pitcher can (better performance at the high levels than Verlander last year despite starting a level lower and moving faster), he dominated a level higher than Hughes and Bailey did, and was productive in the majors, a level two above where Hughes and Bailey ended up.
Finally, A+ pitchers get A's, and so do A pitchers. John doesn't slide the whole scale down for a few exceptional prospects, and neither should we.
A plus pitch is a pitch that can be thrown for strikes and not get hammered at the MLB level. In Garza's first run through the league, he showed that his fastball, curve, and slider are all plusses when he's on. It's unreasonable to expect a pitcher just two years removed from college to dominate his first 50 MLB innings; some inconsistency is to be expected.
Using inconsistency to say that pitches are "potential plusses" and not "true plusses" is ridiculous. Under this logic it is impossible for any rookie (read: inconsistent) pitcher to have plus pitches. Guess what? Liriano, Cain, Billingsley, Verlander, and Hamels are possibly the five best recent pitching prospects to debut, and all were inconsistent in their first 30-50 innings at the MLB level. Do they all have "potential plusses" too? Of course not! This is ridiculous logic.
Garza didn't put up Nintendo numbers in his first run through the league, but that should never be the criteria for whether a pitcher has plus pitches or not.
by limozeen on
Nov 19, 2025 7:41 PM EST
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Overstatement
by cmathewson on
Nov 19, 2025 7:53 PM EST
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Slowey Allure
They seem like comparable pitchers; they have the exact same build and both use average stuff with pinpoint control. Sonnastine is older but has also had more succes at a high level.
I don't know, I like Slowey... but it seems like he is similar to other guys who have to "prove" that their stuff can play in the upper minor leagues before anyone takes them seriously.
by FI on Nov 19, 2025 5:44 PM EST 0 recs
Slowey dominated
by cmathewson on
Nov 19, 2025 7:54 PM EST
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sure, but...
I'm not arguing that Slowey isn't "for real" or that he doesn't deserve a B+ grade. I guess I just don't understand why the two pitchers would be evaluated so differently.
by FI on
Nov 19, 2025 11:38 PM EST
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Sonny
Slowey was a year younger, made the AA transition in-season, had a decently stronger K/9 ratio, and has continued to be effective in AAA and the AFL.
I still have my doubts about Slowey's ceiling, but he's better than Sonnanstine (maybe not by a full letter grade; I'd probably give Sonny a B- or B).
by limozeen on
Nov 19, 2025 7:58 PM EST
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Better? By How Much?
I guess I'm just trying to understand the difference of a B+ vs C+ grade when I see so many similarities between the two pitchers. If Slowey was a B and Sonnanstine a B- I wouldn't bring this up.
"...had a decently stronger K/9 ratio"
Not really; Slowey was a bit better at AA but Sonnanstine had the better K rate at A-ball and high A-ball so I don't think that's a discriminating characteristic.
They're both striking out about 7.5 guys per 9 innings and walking fewer than 2 batters per 9 innings in double-A. Sonnanstine's walk rate has been a bit better but, again, they're so close I don't think it's worth reading much into that.
And while I appreciate that Slowey had a nice little run during the triple-A playoffs, I think there's also something to be said for the fact that Sonnanstine was able to sustain his success for 185 innings; he didn't have the benefit of being unfamiliar to hitters all year long like Slowey did.
The average stuff, good command, excellent control, bit of deception in the delivery... it's all there for both pitchers. I think they're both intriguing but I don't see why one would be rated significantly higher than the other.
Maybe I'm just missing something.
by FI on
Nov 19, 2025 11:32 PM EST
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Well
by limozeen on
Nov 20, 2025 12:07 AM EST
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cherry picking small differences.
And honestly, I think the 0.47 K9 difference in strikeout rates is to be "taken lightly" given that the pitchers' peripherals are so similar overall and if you wanted to cherry-pick small differences you could always look at Sonnanstine's slight edge in walk rate, HR rate, etc. to argue that the other pitcher is better.
by FI on
Nov 20, 2025 3:42 PM EST
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Sonnanstine
I really don't see how Slowey ranks anything more than a half grade over Sonnanstine... but then again, John hasn't released his Devil Rays grades yet so I'll wait and see.
Also, this talk of Sonnanstine having weak stuff is off to me. He gets strikeouts and his FB velocity has been recorded at 92 but sits anywhere from 88-91. There have been plenty of successful major league pitchers who work in the low-90's.
by youALREADYknow on Nov 20, 2025 1:36 AM EST 0 recs
Robert Delaney - Prospect for 2007
Watch him this spring after some rest --at the Fort Myers Miracle. He's got a good 90 Plus fastball and a baseball head for the game. He's won some big games at St. Johns University.
Look for him to continue to climb through the Organization.
by Rock09 on Nov 20, 2025 2:22 PM EST 0 recs




