Atlanta Braves Top 20 Prospects for 2009
All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change. Don’t get too worried about exact rankings at this point, especially once you get out of the top 10. Grade C+/C guys are pretty interchangeable depending on what you are looking for.
2) Frederick Freeman, 1B, Grade B+: Debating whether or not to move him up to A-. Not as broad a skill base as Heyward, but power and youth stand out.
3) Thomas Hanson, RHP, Grade B+: Looks good to me, though will need some Triple-A to put on the finishing touches. Number Two starter ceiling.
4) Jordan Schafer, OF, Grade B+: I should have put him on the Rotowire Top 100 list. Will be in the 50/50 for the book. Power, speed, defense, OBP, and played well without the juice.
5) Tyler Flowers, C, Grade B: Love the power and walks, main question is glove.
6) Cole Rohrbough, LHP, Grade B: Excellent ceiling. I cannot prove why objectively, but I worry a bit about his arm. Needs sharper command too.
7) Craig Kimbrel, RHP, Grade B: I hesitate to grade relief prospects this highly, but I can’t ignore his early dominance.
8) Gorkys Hernandez, OF, Grade B-: Would like to see more power, other skills coming along.
9) Kris Medlen, RHP, Grade B-: Am I overrating him? Looks like he could be a really good swingman.
10) Jeff Locke, LHP, Grade B-: I’ve liked him since he was in high school. Like Rohrbough, worry some about injuries.
11) Randall Delgado, RHP, Grade B-: Needs better command, but a high ceiling guy.
12) Brett DeVall, LHP, Grade B-: A long way away, but a high ceiling.
13) Zeke Spruill, RHP, Grade B-: Like DeVall, a long way off, but fits into organization philosophy perfectly.
14) Brandon Hicks, SS, Grade C+: Love the power, walks, speed, defense. Hate the strikeouts.
15) Eric Campbell, 3B, Grade C+: If his head is on straight, could surprise people in ’09.
16) James Parr, RHP, Grade C+: Fourth/fifth starter type.
17) J.J. Hoover, RHP, Grade C+: Sleeper call on a junior college guy that I love. Hard-thrower with improving command.
18) Kala Ka’aihue, 1B, Grade C+: Similar to his brother Kila though I don’t think he will perform quite as well in ’09 as his brother did in ’08.
19) David Francis, RHP, Grade C+: Sleeper pick.
20) Edgar Osuna, LHP, Grade C+: Sleeper pick, great K/BB ratio.
Others included are Willie Cabrera, Paul Clemens, Kyle Cofield, Scott Diamond, Steve Evarts, Cory Gearrin, Jon Gilmore (C+), Cody Johnson, Travis Jones (C+) Brent Lillibridge, Jose Ortegano, Benino Pruneda, Todd Redmond, Chad Rodgers, Tyler Stovall (C+), Richard Sullivan, Luis Sumoza (C+), Julio Teheran (C+), Jacob Thompson, and Luis Valdez.
The C+ guys could easily be in the Top 20 depending on particular emphasis.
There are 40 guys in the book, pared down from my original list of 55 worth writing about. If there is someone else that you really think should be included, make your case. I always miss someone. Space is limited and some of the players above will probably get cut if I have to add someone else. In fact, I really need to get that 40 down to 38, but don’t know who to cut.
The Braves could use some additional offensive depth beyond the top guys, but are typically rich in pitching. Injury attrition is going to wipe some of those young arms out, of course, though which ones it is hard to tell until it happens. The Braves are pushing in a lot of junior college guys recently.
The next team up will be the Philadelphia Phillies, then the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
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Question for John
Hi John,
Have you decided whether to go to two 50/50 lists or one 100 list yet?
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by King Billy Royal on Oct 23, 2025 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
50/50
gonna stick with the 50/50
by John Sickels on Oct 23, 2025 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still a very good farm system
Man, the Braves draft well…
by demondeaconsbaseball on Oct 23, 2025 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Two B-minuses and a B...
just from the 2008 draft, in which the Braves didn’t have a selection until #40. Wow.
by vandystu on Oct 23, 2025 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe Francis (#19) and Stovall, both C+, were from the 2008 Draft as well.
by beeniez on Oct 23, 2025 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That draft went very well for the Braves.
I had heard they hoped to get Stovall, DeVall, or Spruill at 40 and somehow they ended up with all three of them.
by parish on Oct 24, 2025 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Julio Teheran
He was mentioned as a potential ace by some. How do you think that projection still holds up?
by themurph on Oct 23, 2025 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Teheran
This was, to me, the biggest surprise of the list. Not in the top 20? Wow. I understand that he got hurt this year, but his numbers were great when he did pitch, and all scouting reports I’ve heard are still very positive on him. He’s a C+, so presumably he was close to the list. I’m just surprised he didn’t end up higher on it.
by mraver on Oct 23, 2025 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I thought he would be around #10.
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by King Billy Royal on Oct 23, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
teheran
Sorry,I’m skeptical regarding pitchers his age with nothing but scouting reports
by John Sickels on Oct 23, 2025 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I would rank him as a C+ as well until he actually proves something!
by Jay212033 on Oct 23, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got no problem with the C+
I just think I’d have him ahead of, say, James Parr.
by mraver on Oct 23, 2025 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
But I will remember that when Inoa’s grade is given. ;)
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by King Billy Royal on Oct 24, 2025 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i was going to ask
Does this mean your not going to have Inoa in the top 20…
Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus had this to say shortly after Inoa was signed by Oakland.
Where Does He Rank As A Prospect In The Oakland System?
This could be an article in itself, where one talks about ranking philosophy, but for me, he’s their No. 1. The two strongest competitors for the title would be Double-A pitchers Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, and while both are very good prospects, neither comes close to Inoa’s ceiling. It’s too early to think about Top 100 rankings, but it’s easy to see him in the upper third come January.
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by jbluestone on Oct 24, 2025 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dunno
I don’t know yet. I am not as paranoid about 18-19 year old pitchers as I used to be, but the 16 and 17 year olds witn no performance track record and nothing but hype and scouting reports still worry me.
by John Sickels on Oct 25, 2025 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John
Is Heyward’s ceiling still in the Willie McCovey range that you said last year. BA has said that he could be the next Dave Parker which they may have stole from me since I said it in March on a prospect list.
by Bravesin07 on Oct 23, 2025 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
?
Doesn’t Heyward walk too much to be the next Dave Parker?
by vandystu on Oct 23, 2025 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heyward comps
If I remember correctly, they compared specific skills to McCovey, Parker, and Frank Thomas. The Frank Thomas comp was based on his patience. The Parker comp was for something else.
by ajones2522 on Oct 23, 2025 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Parker comp was because he's a 6'5 230 rightfielder with a strong arm
by Bravesin07 on Oct 23, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the next Jesus
That might be selling him short though.
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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2025 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
Compared to everyone else here, hate might actually be the right word.
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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2025 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit
So many good jokes, none of them appropriate
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by OldProspects on Oct 24, 2025 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
If BA starts stealing ideas from Bravesin07, isn’t that a sign of the apocalypse?
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by gatling on Oct 23, 2025 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while
by demondeaconsbaseball on Oct 24, 2025 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early Question on the Rays top 20
Is Barnese another Hellickson in the making?
by Bravesin07 on Oct 23, 2025 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't have the breaking stuff. Right now, he's basically he throws a 2-seam fastball with heavy downward bore. Curve and change aren't as advanced as Hellickson's were at the same age.
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by Tyler on Oct 23, 2025 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like another Masterson or Lowe type
by Bravesin07 on Oct 23, 2025 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he could be
He’s a really interesting prospect but it’s still awfully early.
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by OldProspects on Oct 23, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't throw as hard as either of those guys. And both guys have better breaking stuff.
As oldprospects said, he could be quite good, but he’s got a long way to go.
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by Tyler on Oct 23, 2025 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Moore
Moor > Barnese
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by sully10x on Oct 24, 2025 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stuff. I've got Moore at 10 and Barnese at 12 in my Top-20.
Moore is a lefty that throws 92-94 touching 95 with a developing curve and a change-up that shows sink and fade. They’re both a long way away, Moore has better stuff and a higher ceiling.
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by Tyler on Oct 25, 2025 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 more?
2 guys off the top of my head that I’d love to see included. Deunte Heath and Dimaster Delgado. Heath is an enigma because of his command but has a lot of potential. I don’t think Dimaster Delgado is too far behind Randall, who you have ranked #11.
I’d leave off Cabrera, and maybe Cofield and Gearrin even though I like both of them. Also, what about Ernesto Mejia? He put up some impressive offensive numbers at Myrtle Beach this year.
by ajones2522 on Oct 23, 2025 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hanson is an A-
Only the long ball really keeps him from an A in my book. I guess I’m quibbling.
I really like Medlen too.
by wobatus on Oct 23, 2025 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think of him more as an A- than a B+. I figure he’s in the top 10 for starting pitchers, and I figure there’ll be at least 10 A/A-’s on the pitching side.
by mraver on Oct 23, 2025 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Extreme flyball tendencies and iffy command make him a B+ in my book
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by PaulThomas on Oct 23, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True enough, but
You seen that hit rate he’s posted? It’s crazy. Something like .190 BAA. I think the degree to which he dominated AA last year pushes him into that higher range.
by mraver on Oct 23, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I really thought he’d be an A-, he actually lowered his FB rate in AA and in the postseason and AFL his GO/FO ratio is very good.
by Jay212033 on Oct 23, 2025 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since I don't care a fig about hit rate, no, I did not see it
or rather, I didn’t notice it…
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by PaulThomas on Oct 24, 2025 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best
I think he led the minors in BAA, and he had to transition to AA early in the season.
As much love as is given for MadBum, one would think that such a performance at AA rather than Low-A from a guy with a professional track record would at least equate.
by parish on Oct 24, 2025 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he an A- now
His AFL numbers are borderline ridiculous!
11.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 5 BB, 21 K
I know some of you are going to say that those number don’t mean anything.
by Jay212033 on Oct 25, 2025 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Osuna
Glad to see Edgar Osuna getting some love. He’s put up terrific numbers for two years in a row now, and I’ll be interested to see how he does when he starts facing higher-level competition next year.
by mraver on Oct 23, 2025 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The B-s for teenage pitchers in rookie ball who were just drafted are too aggressive
given John’s general policy on young players. I don’t know if it’s overoptimism or what the deal is. Odds are of the 5 guys in the 9-13 range, 2 of them will never even sniff the majors and 2 more will be mediocre to average. That’s not B- material. There really isn’t any of those guys I’d give more than a C+ to unless he had an absolutely knockout scouting report, and I doubt all five of them have that… although I’m willing to be proven wrong if someone has something at their fingertips…
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by PaulThomas on Oct 23, 2025 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I'd put Medlen
in the category of young pitchers. He’s 22 and has already done very well in a full season in AA. As for the other guys, I guess either John is getting softer with old age, or he’s more optimistic about them than you are.
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by OldProspects on Oct 23, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Only two of the 9-13 guys (Devall and Spruill) fit the description of “just drafted rookie ballers.” And both were pretty well-regarded prep prospects based on their scouting reports and as John notes have high ceilings.
-Medlen spent the entire year in AA.
-Locke the entire year in Low A.
-Delgado was dominate in high rookie ball, so I suppose he is also drawing your ire. His scouting report: 92-94, above average CB, projectable
Additionally, the difference between a B- and C+ is not that great, so your criticism seems a bit nitpicky.
by aCone419 on Oct 24, 2025 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's 2 more high end prospects
That might be C+/B- at this point.
Luis Avilan, 19, LHP
2.58 ERA, 38.1 IP, 31 H, 15 BB, 47 K, .217 AVG
Robert Brooks, 20, 2B(GCL)
.329/.426/.497, 7 2B, 5 3B, 3 HR, 15 BB, 27 K in 155 AB. Also 12 SB - 1 CS
by Jay212033 on Oct 23, 2025 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good call
on these guys.
I don’t know that he should be on the list, but one guy I will be keeping an eye on next year is Erik Cordier. If he ever puts his arm troubles behind him, he could vault up the lists.
Lastly, I love the Kimbrel and Hoover picks, both look like they have dominating out pitches.
by JFP on Oct 23, 2025 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's an enormous IF with Cordier
I wouldn’t be shocked if someone nabbed him in the rule 5 this winter either.
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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2025 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbrel and Hoover
They have similar stuff, mid 90s FB with a wicked slider! The only difference is Hoover is a starter but Kimbrel was a starter in JUCO and I wish the Braves would put him back in the starting rotation.
by Jay212033 on Oct 24, 2025 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 in the GCL?
That hardly rates a C, let a long a B-
by mraver on Oct 24, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*a lone
How ’bout an edit function, no?
by mraver on Oct 24, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was just drafted this year.........
He can’t help if he didn’t get moved up.
by Jay212033 on Oct 24, 2025 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reponse
I think he’s saying it’s hard to put much into stats from a 20-yo in that league no matter how good they are, let alone a guy who was drafted pretty late (20th round). He’s going to have to prove more before you can call him anything more than a ‘C’ prospect.
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by doublestix on Oct 24, 2025 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also John
I curious to know why Homser got an A- and Freeman got a B+? Freeman has actually proved he deserves and A- with his on field performance. Homser is still basically all scouting report and high school numbers.
by Jay212033 on Oct 23, 2025 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Yeah, like I said above, Freeman might end up at A-.
by John Sickels on Oct 24, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but scouting reports matter
I don’t really seewhat the issue is.
by nms on Oct 24, 2025 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schafer vs. Hernandez
I’m very high on Schafer, but I don’t know much about Gorkys Hernandez. How do the two compare?
by Little Lady on Oct 24, 2025 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schafer
What’s a guy gotta do to get an “A” ranking?
by Omar Little on Oct 24, 2025 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schafer
I wouldn’t give him an “A” but I would give him an “HGH”.
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by King Billy Royal on Oct 24, 2025 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mistakes?
- Im guessing the Brian Cofield is actually Kyle Cofield. (Though maybe he goes by Brian for some reason.)
- Cody Gerrin is actually Cory Gearrin correct?
- You list Tyler Stovall. There is a Tyler Stovall in the Reds organization. There is a Robert Stovall in the Braves organization. Not sure that Robert deserves the C+ as Tyler would, so you may have the two confused.
by yankees095 on Oct 24, 2025 6:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no
No there are two Stovalls, Robert Tyler Stovall in the Braves and Tyler Stovall in the Reds. Very confusing. Before the draft, the braves guy went by Tyler, but now is starting to show up as Robert T. in sources. I will make it more clear.
by John Sickels on Oct 24, 2025 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gearrin
Yeah, it is Cory Gearrin and Kyle Cofield. Both are listed properly in the book. When I’m typing in a hurry I make mistakes. will fix.
by John Sickels on Oct 24, 2025 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cole Rohrbough
Any change in his scouting report from 2007 to 2008? How hard was he throwing in 2008 once he was back in the saddle?
by siddfynch on Oct 25, 2025 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peavy...
Is Tommy Hanson, Jordan Schafer, and one of Kelly Johnson/Yunel Escobar too much?
What would you guys trade for Peavy???
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by 5150bosox on Oct 25, 2025 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!!
That would be such a dumb trade for the Braves.
The point of getting Peavy would be to win, but trading all those guys that are supposed to be on the 25 man roster at some point during the season would be counterproductive.
No way do I trade Schafer or Escobar.
by Little Lady on Oct 25, 2025 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as trade proposals...
I wouldn’t be opposed to a deal centered around Gorkys Hernandez and Tyler Flowers for Peavy. There are a ton of good pitching prospects…Rohrbough, Locke, Osuna, etc…I honestly don’t know how many of those it would take.
by Little Lady on Oct 25, 2025 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Omissions
I generally like the list and I thought that I would give you a few more names to consider.
Johnny Venters, John Mark Owings and Conception Rodriquez all stand out (in addition to those that other posters have added). Angelo Paulino, Steven Kent and Brett Oberholzter (as does Cory Rasmus—if healthy)from the lower minors stand out as pitchers in the lower minors. The Braves also have two young catchers—Matthew Kennelly and Daniel Elorriaga-Matra. Between Rome and Myrtle Beach the Braves have Yeliar Castro (notice his improvement over two years), Ryne Renoso ( a converted OF), Carlos Rivas and Brett Butts. At AA and above Stephen Marek, Carlos Sencion and Jon Gunderson are worth a look.
Teheran’s numbers are actually terrible—right now he is all hype. Still, it says something about a 17 year old that he could start at Danville….
by Stephen in the UAE on Oct 26, 2025 6:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I meant Kevin Gunderson….
by Stephen in the UAE on Oct 26, 2025 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
todd redmond
why is redmond getting so little love? He gets a straight C grade but Medlen gets a B-? Now I haven’t read detailed scouting reports on them lately, but a look at the performance last year doesn’t show much difference. Redmond is 5 months older and they both spent the whole yea at AA.
ERA BAA SO/BB GO/AO
Medlen 3.52 .268 4.44 0.99
Redmond 3.52 .257 4.03 0.63
With the exception of Medlen being better at keeping the ball on the ground is there that much difference? So is Medlen (whose grade I like) being overrated, Redmond being underrated, or am I missing something?
by B_Agate on Oct 27, 2025 5:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stuff
Medlen’s definitely s’posed to have better stuff, but if Redmond keeps striking people out he could start making a case as a control guy.
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