MILB Gameday Discussion 6/28
by rdf8585 on Jun 28, 2025 12:13 PM EDT
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PrintA strong day of pitching probables is on tap as Jose Fernandez makes his High-A debut and other top arms like Dylan Bundy are also slated to toe the rubber.
Probables:
AAA: Julio Teheran, Tyler Cloyd, and Andy Oliver
AA: Bobby Bundy, Anthony Ranuado, Trey McNutt, Kyle Heackthorn, David Holmberg, Ethan Martin, Zeke Spruill, and Kyle Lotzkar
A+: Jimmy Nelson, Jose Fernandez (A+ Debut), Dylan Bundy, Diamaster Delgado, and Jason Adam.
A-: Noah Syndergaard
Baseball America on Shelby Miller's start last night.
"Miller was skipped for a turn through the rotation so that he could work on his mechanics. On Wednesday night, we saw the results: improved control, a fastball that sat at 92 mph and touched 95 and a more consistent arm slot."
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Rymer Liriano to AA
Nice, although I can’t see him play now.
by walnut falcons on Jun 28, 2025 12:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I concur
The fact that walnut falcons can’t see Liriano pleases me as well.
by Matt0330 on Jun 29, 2025 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It's J.R. Bradley
the one slated to pitch, not Archie.
by dbacks25 on Jun 28, 2025 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
Cuban OF Yasiel Puig signed with the Dodgers
Most opinions I’ve read said Soler is better, Puig should be expected to have contact issues, etc. Yet somehow, Puig got 6 yrs., $42 million despite being two years older than Soler.
by kyuss94 on Jun 28, 2025 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
that's a hell of a gamble
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Jun 28, 2025 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodgers overpaid, by a lot, IMO
Projections last week (even before the botched showcase in Mexico) were that Puig would get in the $15-$20 million range. What surprises me is that (according to one report), the $42M was not even the highest offer. Scouting reports are sketchy at best, so I’m apt to agree with doublestix - huge gamble.
by dbreer23 on Jun 28, 2025 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet somehow, Puig got 6 yrs., $42 million despite being two years older than Soler.
Elasicity of supply, my friend. When the supply is fixed at one, and there are multiple bidders, the price will skyrocket
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even this , although fact
Its simply that the Dodgers have probably Millions on top of Millions to play around with.
Similar reason the Angels snagged Pujols so much money. When you have that much revenue and fans….. you can afford moves like this with some left to spare.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That explains their ability to pay
It doesn’t explain why the market equilibrium price was driven so high for this player (LA has apparently barely seen him at all!), when you compare with what other players have got.
While the Dodgers can certainly afford to a lot for a player, they still want to to maximize the value they are getting: they aren’t going to just throw away money and pay way over the market out of the kindness of their hearts.
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the move
Scouts love his upside and the Dodgers have money to spend. It may be an overpay but if he develops into a good regular it will be a solid value.
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 28, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They do?
Everything I’ve seen has them commenting on his relative polish, but lack of upside.
by RynoRooter on Jun 28, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dodgers were just sold for an insane amount of money
Most in the industry are speculating that they will become big time spenders this off-season. They are rumoured to be salivating for Hamels.
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 28, 2025 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Their ability to pay really doesn't change the analysis
Even if there’s tons of money to be spent, there’s tons of ways to do so - MLB FAs, extending your own players, investing in scouting, development, etc….the focus should be about getting the best bang for the dollar.
In other words, the deal should be justified on the value the Dodgers got, not the fact they have money available.
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is he on your top-100?
This isn’t a great way to measure his talent but just going off the money given to Cespedes and Soler, I’m guessing he has to be top-50 at the very least.
by sethbeno on Jun 28, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Badler said he isn't even in an average org's top 10
by RynoRooter on Jun 28, 2025 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Either Badler and Keith Law are wrong about him (possible)
or the price got driven up on the last international free agent before the new CBA restrictions go into place, much like the price for the last furby gets jacked up the day before Christmas.
by RynoRooter on Jun 28, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Extremely inelastic supply curve of MLB calibre prospects who can be signed before J2
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Re:
I just don’t get this or agree with it.
I get that there was maybe 1 more very good prospect on the market before the deadline. That said, the Dodgers (and at least one other team if you believe Heyman’s report that the Dodgers were not the highest bidder) must have valued him very highly. If not, why not just wait until after 7/2 when you know that you can get comparable talent for much less. In many ways, the 7/2 deadline should be depressing value instead of increasing it. To use the furby analogy above, it’s like knowing that furbies are going to drop in price substantially and there’s no reason why you can’t wait until they drop. Teams don’t outbid each other just to do it which makes me think that a few teams fell in love with him. Plus, for the same money, they could have gotten a pretty useable FA on the open market. It just doesn’t make sense to act like they paid that much for no reason.
I’m guessing that there is a discrepancy between what Badler and Law are saying and what some team’s see in him. Otherwise, this move just doesn’t make sense.
by Dfarth on Jun 28, 2025 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Because teams want to get as much talent as possible
The Dodgers will spend the max after 7/2, as basically every team will (or should anyway).
The mistake in your analogy above is that it assumes everybody wants (or needs) just 1 Furby. But that’s not the case with prospects - more is better. And right now, there was only one significant prospect on the market who was available for a cash price - Puig. Now, theoretically, teams could agree not to sign him, and then someone would get him for $2.9M max in two weeks - collusion. However, that’s not an equilbrium - assuming his true value as over $2.9M, then every team has the incentive to offer him the money now, and then also spend the $2.9M. And so the bidding goes and goes, until someone pays $42M.
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Re:
I don’t think there’s really a flaw in my argument because of the fact that money spent doesn’t necessarily have to go to the finite supply of foreign prospects. As you mentioned above, there are any number of things a team can spend money on to improve — scouting, development, facilities, free agents, medical staff, technology, etc. Clearly, regardless of the supply of prospects, the Dodgers think that spending $40+M on this one is a better use of their money than those other things.
I realize having more prospects is better — but that doesn’t diminish the fact they are spending an extraordinary amount of money on one unknown commodity. If the Dodgers even thought they could get even 1 comparable talent after 7/2 for $2.9M — and are paying this one $42M — that seems really stupid to me.
Again, I think the Dodgers and at least one other team must have fallen in love with him. There’s no other reasonable explanation to me.
by Dfarth on Jun 28, 2025 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodgers didn't even offer the biggest contract
according to most experts.
Also people keep saying well why not just wait to 7/2 and sign a similar talent. If you have the money why not sign both the guy on 7/2 and Puig?
Also we all know Law can be a bit of an arrogant douche. I still follow hi and read his articles but whenever he has a habit of saying outrageous things that get people riled up. He’s the Skip Bayless/Stephen A. Smith of the scouting world.
You have to realize that none of these guys have seen him play much if at all. Especially with his suspensions. There’s a bit more unknown about PUig because of how quickly this has happened. The only thing people seem to agree on is he’s a very good athlete, faster than both Soler and Puig and has great body(no homo) like both guys.
Basically no one really knows much about Puig. Goldstein questioned his bat but how can you question the bat of someone you haven’t seen play?
by mcpeepants23200 on Jun 28, 2025 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also I wonder if Dodgers have a scout in Cuba
this may seem ridiculous but they have signed/drafted 5 Cuban players in the last year and a half. Their biggest international signing of 2011 was RAydel Sanchez, their 3rd pick this year was Onelkis Garcia, their 26th round pick was Alfredo Unzue, also signed 27 year old catcher Selme Angulo and lastly Puig who is probably their biggest international signing(although Bryan Munhoz has tons of potential).
by mcpeepants23200 on Jun 28, 2025 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
‘He’s the Skip Bayless/Stephen A. Smith of the scouting world’
I can’t believe this never occurred to me before. Bang on.
by Matt0330 on Jun 29, 2025 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
To be clear
The Dodgers do have to value him around $40M for it to be rational (not necessarily quite that amount - if you valued at say $35M, you could maybe justify the extra amount since this one opportunity won’t come again). And they would have absolutely had to fall in love with his skills, to justify that tag. And personally, I think it is a massive overpay.
But, what I’m getting at is that the market for this player is not set at all by what you can get in terms of IFAs on July 2 and afterwards (as you focussed on initially, and still a little bit in your second response). It’s set by what the alternate uses of cash are - the things I mentioned above and you listed directly above). So basically, at $42M, and around $5M/WAR, that’s valuing him at basically 8 discounted WAR - that’s a lot.
Finally, the reason for initially focussing on the inelasticity of cupple for driving up the cost is that under circumstances that prevailed prior to the new CBA, the exact mechanism that you’re talking about - comparison/substitution to other J2 players - would serve to not drive his price so high. Even if you had a international budget of $40M, you would aim to maximize what you got for that $40M, and that would be far more than Yusel Puig. But that’s just not an option with the new CBA.
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Re:
We basically agree. My main point was that it isn’t the 7/2 deadline by itself that drove that price. That wouldn’t make sense…
by Dfarth on Jun 29, 2025 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Making a huge assumption of a fixed budget where you should maximize value
And ignoring an owners directive to sign a player regardless of cost in order to impart goodwill in a very toxic situation because of the previous owner.
There will always be deals that are outside of the budget and this appears to be one of them.
by pedrophile on Jun 29, 2025 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Making stupid moves
In not a good way to build goodwill from your fan base.
by realitypolice on Jun 29, 2025 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sure it is
look at the internet after the Fielder signing. Of course in the long run it’s a stupid move. Even in the short term it is.
by pedrophile on Jun 29, 2025 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
how exactly could be the fielder signing be a stupid move in the short term?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 30, 2025 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
D matters
Miggy is now playing 3B, when he was a decent 1B. Fielder is playing 1B. Their D is absolutely horrible. Their hitting is no better.
by pedrophile on Jun 30, 2025 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
miggy and fielder
are no better than miggy and inge/betemit? i’d like to take massive quantities of whatever it is that you’re taking. please and thank you.
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 30, 2025 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Or Peralta could have moved to third and then Detroit could
Play quality middle infielders and have a vastly improved D.
by pedrophile on Jun 30, 2025 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Their hitting is no better.
regardless of how you want to rearrange the guys, the offense is significantly better…as is the overall IF.
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 30, 2025 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
victor was out for the season when they signed prince...
so it’s not prince or victor at all. thats not difficult to see. unless of course you think that one of boras’ guys sliced victors achilles in his sleep or something.
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2025 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure
And that would have played some factor.
But the controlling partner is Guggenheim Capital, and they didn’t make their money by being idiots. As far as spending money to engender goodwill, extending Andre Ethier went a long way in that respect
by MjwW on Jun 29, 2025 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
being smart in one field does not equate to being smart in another
I know nothing about Puig and whether it was a good signing or not. I do know there is often a second, separate, budget for special signings. These can be fantastic players. It can also be for a last shot at an international star prospect.
by pedrophile on Jun 29, 2025 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what happens
when you pair a lousy GM with deep-pocketed owners looking to make a splash.
by realitypolice on Jun 28, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems
We aren’t the only ones confused
by realitypolice on Jun 29, 2025 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
SourPrediction:
8 & 2/3 IP 2H 0ER 5BB 12K
by son.of.sourman on Jun 28, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
5 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 4 BB, 5 K, 87 pitches
http://twitter.com/doublestix
by doublestix on Jun 28, 2025 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
5.1 innings
4 walks, 6 k’s, 3 runs
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 28, 2025 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
close to mine
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It all depends on whether I start him on my fantasy team or not
If so, 4 IP, 4 BB, 3 K, 6 R
If not, 7 IP, 2 BB, 9 K, 1 R
by dnc on Jun 28, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
So true!!!!!
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 28, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't start him! I'm starting him!
At least, if Ottoneu lets me… he’s still listed under minor leagues and I can’t move him into my lineup…
by oplaid on Jun 28, 2025 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't start him
I guess that means his rough start was your fault
by dnc on Jun 29, 2025 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
17IP 0H 11BB 43K
That alone wins Him the CY.
In all seriousness I’ll give him
6 2/3 IP 5 H 4 BB 8K at around 95 pitches
Down 2 in the bottom of the ninth?
Lets Bring in Willie Harris!
by ShaqKazaam on Jun 28, 2025 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ment to add 3ER in there
Down 2 in the bottom of the ninth?
Lets Bring in Willie Harris!
by ShaqKazaam on Jun 28, 2025 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
5 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 5 K, 1 HR
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Jun 28, 2025 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
4 IP 2ER 4K 2BB
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Jun 28, 2025 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
6.1IP, 4H, 2R, 4BB, 7K, 88 pitches
He gets in trouble in the 6th and the pen gives up his second run.
by High and Inside on Jun 28, 2025 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
not a prospect
but andrew cashner goes for the Padres
by miraclemets on Jun 28, 2025 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
first inning
averaging around 98 on his fastball, topping out at 100. nice change at 88. guys got some sick stuff.
by drewlev on Jun 28, 2025 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
was that a slider to k Lee? It was filthy
by miraclemets on Jun 28, 2025 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
change
he threw only fastball and changeup in the 1st. though he has a nice slider as well.
by drewlev on Jun 28, 2025 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks very composed
doesn’t throw many bad ones in a row. Really impressive.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If he can keep the BBs in check
and stay healthy, both huge ifs, I think he has ace potential
by sethbeno on Jun 28, 2025 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like he is having
a little difficulty getting slider over consistantly
by miraclemets on Jun 28, 2025 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
great call by the catcher
calling for the slider to k martinez. it wasnt close to a strike but it fooled Martinez so much, expecting the fastball, he swung.
by miraclemets on Jun 28, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Cashner continues dealin'
6 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 9 K
80 Pitches
by polyrhythm07 on Jun 28, 2025 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at 80 pitches...
wonder what his limit will be tonight?
by dbreer23 on Jun 28, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
bad call by hundley
shouldnt have called that fastball down and in to a lefty
by miraclemets on Jun 28, 2025 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Made it thru 6.1 IP hitless
then the wheels came off…
IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST
6.1 2 2 2 1 9 1 101-60
Great job for only his third start since the beginning of 2011.
by dbreer23 on Jun 28, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hultzen will start in AAA today, very possibly against Jamie Moyer
The statistics you don't compile never lie.
-Stephen Colbert
by kentcheesehead on Jun 28, 2025 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
Moyer
Had 100 MLB starts when Hultzen was born.
by ADLC on Jun 28, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Gregorious
Anyone see his highlight from the other day: http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=22645783
I know his numbers are so-so, but his D is unreal.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
I've been pegging him for a while
Hope the Twins and Reds can work something out for him this deadline ! :)
Burton back to cinci? lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
It’s self-depecating though, no?
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Snydergaard
Hoping he has another good day today.
by Jeremy Valley on Jun 28, 2025 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
Bauer
5.2, 5 h, 2 r, 3 bb, 5 k…winning pitcher.
by mlbprospectpulse on Jun 28, 2025 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Fernandez FSL debut
1IP, 0H, 0ER, 0BB, 1K
Got Dykstra looking on a good backdoor breaking ball in a 1-2 count.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 6:49 PM EDT reply actions
couple of singles and a BB in the 2nd lead to 2 runs
2IP, 2H, 2ER, 1BB, 1K
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
2 more ER!
Two IF singles weakly hit, then a shot in the gap for a 3B.
3IP, 5H, 4ER, 1BB, 2K
Got Dykstra looking again, with a FB then two change ups.
Yelich with a bomb…2-2, HR (8)
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked good in the 4th
2K, one swinging on a CB out of the zone, and one looking on a CB.
4IP, 5H, 4ER, 1BB, 4K
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Listening
Maybe I should say “sounded good.”
Sun Sentinel just posted the entire first inning though. Not great video but awesome that they posted so fast.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/videogallery/70761288/Sports/Video:-Prospect-Jose-Fernandez’s-first-FSL-inning
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot better video than I would have expected
Especially that quickly. Really crisp
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, real sharp
choppy, but really, I’m not complaining. I would have liked to see the break and closer location on the off speed stuff. I’m still hoping to get some videos of his change up. I think he’s thrown 3-4 so far and got one guy looking for a K.
5IP, 5H, 4ER, 1BB, 4K
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple of quick thoughts
FB was anywhere from 92-98, but mostly 95-97
Threw first pitch FB a lot
Didn’t fall behind guys
Wasn’t afraid to throw his CB in any count after that
Went to the CB for an out pitch a lot
Threw 3-4 change ups according to the broadcast, with one a called 3rd strike
Couple of soft hit balls in the second led to two ER
Couple of IF singles, then a really hard hit 3B led to 2 ER in the 3rd
With the man on 3rd, another hard hit ball to the gap that Yelich bailed him out on
After that, there was one other pretty routine ball out to the waring track. No other hard hit GB or LDs
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I should note
that this was a pretty weak Mets line up (sorry St Lucia). So it’ll be interesting to see how he bounces back.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Though
They have the best record in professional baseball (or did as of a week or so ago)
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
From watching the video again
He seems to have reduced the effort in his delivery. Looks pretty good - not extra smooth but not strained either.. He still has a bit of a shortened follow through, but it’s not a violent pull back. But what I really like is his closed front shoulder. I think it’ll make him very consistent.
by Woodland League on Jun 29, 2025 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
honestly
Dude throws mid-high 90s. There’s effort and a lot of it in that delivery somewhere, just a matter of where that effort is coming from and what it happens to be affecting.
Can’t say I’m worried about it.
by mrkupe on Jun 29, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
If one more person
Tells me Bauer is going to “redefine the science of pitching” I am going to punch them in the throat. He’s a talented kid, but he is doing nothing that 100 guys before him haven’t done.
by ADLC on Jun 28, 2025 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Well he is doing one thing new
He gives those things exciting names and talks about them a lot, but I agree that nothing he is doing is actually new.
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
He throws long toss, foul pole to foul pole, before his starts, not on his days between starts. I’ve never seen anybody do that before. Am I wrong?
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jun 29, 2025 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
im not trevor bauer...far from it...
but i always long tossed from around 275-300 before starts in high school and college…not a huge quantity of throws, but i always built up to that distance
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 29, 2025 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Same here with long toss...
Long toss is like lifting weights for your arm. I have never heard of an injury from it and guys that take it seriously always have strong arms.
by huztler on Jun 29, 2025 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This is something Skip Bayless might say
by kyuss94 on Jun 29, 2025 2:40 AM EDT via Android app up reply actions
Casejud has been called a lot of things on this site
But comparing anybody to Skip Bayless is crossing the line.
by dnc on Jun 29, 2025 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right
I apologize, honestly
by kyuss94 on Jun 29, 2025 11:11 AM EDT via Android app up reply actions
It's okay
I klove Skip Bayless. i am noty that intense though lol
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jun 29, 2025 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
he gets on my nerves sometimes
. . he is ultra-intense but, he does know his shit. Watching Bayless and Steven A Smith go at it is something though. lol
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jul 1, 2025 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey ADLC
Bauer is going to redefine the science of pitching.
;)
by dnc on Jun 29, 2025 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Bundy
2IP, 0H, 0ER, 0BB, 3K
Still nasty.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Went 6 for the first time
Final line
6IP 5H 1ER 1BB 5K
AA! AA! AA! AA!
Or better yet
Bullpen! Bullpen! Bullpen!
by oriolekid on Jun 28, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
doing better at everything except power and average
FSL for ya. Still really like him as a prospect, always loved those really athletic catchers that can steal bases.
by endlessprisoner on Jun 28, 2025 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He's an interesting case
Striking out much less than last year but not getting great results on balls in play.
by charles wallace on Jun 29, 2025 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yelich
deservs his own line tonight
4-4, 2HR (GS), 7RBI
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bauer done
4 IP, 5 H, 2 R 2 ER, 3 BB 3 SO 74 pitches/42 strikes.
by dbacks25 on Jun 28, 2025 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
Surprised they kept him at just 75 pitches
but he did about expected against a good Atlanta offense
by bbtng on Jun 28, 2025 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
He did pitch 50 pitches on Sunday.
by dbacks25 on Jun 28, 2025 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Forgot that he was pitching on 3 days rest
by bbtng on Jun 28, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Also might have had something to do with the fact that it was still in the mid 90s at first pitch.
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Bauer
Did Cashner and Bauer switch bodies?
by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 28, 2025 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
One was pitching against the Astros, the other the Braves
by bbtng on Jun 28, 2025 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I also think people are forgetting the kind of potential Cashner had/has
The guy was always a legit TOR arm.
by bdlugz on Jun 29, 2025 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
For me, the most importnat thing about Cashner
is his potential to walk 5 guys per 9 innings. He does throw hard though…
by huztler on Jun 29, 2025 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't really say I am
He really struggled the last two innings. Braves announcers mentioned that 21 of his first 29 pitches were strikes, so that means only 21 of the last 45 went for strikes. Unless he suddenly turned it on again, he was going to have trouble making it through the 5th and the middle of the Braves order.
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I always did have the worst timing.
by polyrhythm07 on Jun 28, 2025 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dbacks25
On the RBI double off Bauer…..Upton could have maybe had that ball, and was the relay really slow? Can’t believe that run scored….
Figure a true homer has already analyzed that play!
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what happened to Upton
on that play, I guess he lost the ball the second he took the eye out of it to check the wall.
by dbacks25 on Jun 28, 2025 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Did well to limit the Braves to 2 R
I didn’t get to watch the first two innings, but he didn’t have any command in the third and fourth which is when he really got in trouble. He struggled to get swings and misses, which was pretty surprising. The Braves also didn’t seem to have any trouble picking up his offspeed stuff, which I think is probably something he’s going to have to deal with at the MLB level.
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Worth noting that 4 of the 5 hits came on offspeed stuff
For all the talk of pitch tunneling, he didn’t seem to have the Braves confused at all as to what was coming. Might have had something to do with getting just 3 whiffs on the night.
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He was getting squeezed quite a bit out there
But he wasn’t all that efficient either.
Down 2 in the bottom of the ninth?
Lets Bring in Willie Harris!
by ShaqKazaam on Jun 28, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely disagree on that
Only really questionable call I remember was on a curve up in the zone, and you just aren’t going to get many slower curves called for strikes in the majors.
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
No decision for Bauer
Kubel ties the game with a 2-run double
by bbtng on Jun 28, 2025 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Bauer Done
4 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, HBP
74 Pitches - 42 Strikes
Pat Corbin now in
by polyrhythm07 on Jun 28, 2025 8:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
it happens
not everyone can pull a Strasburg their first time
Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
If you didn't know by now, my screen name is sarcastic
by mathisrocks5 on Jun 28, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially when the player is dwarfed in talent by Stras
by gore51 on Jun 29, 2025 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't speak such blasphemy on this site!
Bauer is the new blood diamond!
by guru4u on Jun 29, 2025 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's pretty much everybody
Young Nolan Ryan (maybe) excepted.
by Matt0330 on Jun 29, 2025 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny Diekroeger
2-3, HR (2)
Love how MiLB lists him as Kenneth.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
Kenneth
should have been picked a round higher, but ohh well
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda odd to start him in the Apy League, no?
Considering he came out of a major program?
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Rebuilding his swing...
A little more mechanical work needs to be done with his swing, better to try and accomplish that at a lower level, IMO. If the changes take (and early result are promising), he’ll likely jump up in about a month.
by dbreer23 on Jun 28, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't seem to be an issue anyway
He’s likely due for A+ ball to start next year in any case, no reason that they need to be aggressive with him this year unless he really justifies it.
It’s going to be really interesting to see what he makes of himself. Seems like the type who might find himself in the pros.
by mrkupe on Jun 29, 2025 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering he came out of a major program?
No when that program is Stanford. dbreer is right on with thr swing overhaul.
by charles wallace on Jun 29, 2025 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Austin Wilson will probably have the same issue this time next year.
by charles wallace on Jun 29, 2025 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Byron Buxton 1-2 , BB
first pro level hitt after starting off something like 0-13…is a single
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
in game 2
it was a doubleheader
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Shoot
I meant to put that under Bubba
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ji Man Choi vs Miguel Sano
Choi 2-2 already
Sano 1-1, 2B, BB
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
5 innings to play
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sano 2-4, HR (16) , 2B , BB , 2 K's
He is ugly right now
K’ing almost all of his outs away.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Parker Markel
2.2+IP | 7H | 5R/ER | 1BB | 4K | 1HRA
Don’t know too much about him, but was really good the first time through, pile of swings and misses. Unravelled the second time through…couple baserunners on ground balls, then a 3 run bomb to Andy Burns, and then couldn’t find the strike zone.
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
I have no idea why a guy of his caliber struggles to much, especially at getting strikeouts.
by mr. maniac on Jun 28, 2025 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ouch, i really liked him . And still do.
makes you wonder if he’s hurting a bit, or just lacking confidence with 1 or 2 of his pitches right now….
something doesn’t seem right
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
"Don’t know too much about him, but was really good the first time through"
It was for this very reason that even last year, a few writers were wondering if Markel should be converted to a RP sooner rather than later.
by dbreer23 on Jun 28, 2025 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Teheran continues to be the most enigmatic prospect out there
3.2 IP 9 ER 10 H 0 BB 4 K
by nixa37 on Jun 28, 2025 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
Eh, we can make him a throw-in on a Volquez deal :)
by padmadfanman on Jun 28, 2025 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
traded ...A-Rod and Andrelton Simmons
pre-season for Edinson Volquez, Chase Headley, and Mason Williams
Was up and down on it, now I"m LOVING it :)
*24 team dynasty lg.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Twins #1 1B prospect
Rory Rhodes all 6"7" of him
4-5 , HR (3) , 2B the man is tearing up the Appy Lg. in the early going.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Well,
he is hitting .189 with a ~26% strikeout rate. It’s not all puppy dogs and rainbows. lol
Looks like he missed a month, and he has been very hot since returnign on June 19.
by charles wallace on Jun 29, 2025 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Rommy Trinidad
3-4, 2 Hr’s (4)
The 20 yr old OF’er in the Twins system needs to dominate so he can get bumped up and play W/ Sano in the MDWL
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
SHS
what’s going on with Levi Michael? Tough numbers all around and looks like he’s officially off SS.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
RE: Michael
NOt sure, but even long before the Twins drafted him, During the North Carolina run to the NCAA’s omaha last year he was showing significant signs of Letting up offensively.
His bat slowed down even before the Twins drafted him, and obviously its carried over into the season.
I think the guy just doesn’t have the stick to cut it, don’t give up on him completely yet, we’ll see how he does the second-half and April/ May of next year…..but if he doesn’t turn it around by then, i think he’s a Quad A type or even a bust.
Defensively at 2B , he’s probably above average where he’s much more average at SS…..but you gotta hit at some point. I don’t think he will. the 79: 63 BB/ K ratio in college hasn’t carried over either has he’s Striking out at a higher clip, and walking significantly less.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Niko Goodrum 3-5 , 2B , 3B , K
one of the Hitts was his 5th Triple !!!!
man something about those three baggers for Niko (cartier) good ..rum
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
David Dahl is locked in right now
1-1, 2B in his first AB
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
Cashner
Dealing.
Had a no hitter through 6 1/3 w/ 9Ks, 1 BB
by ADLC on Jun 28, 2025 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
Oscar Hernandez 3-5 2 R RBI 2B
.927 OPS through 8 games
by Dbullsfan on Jun 28, 2025 10:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
OT
Is better than the Texas league south all stars.
by Dfarth on Jun 28, 2025 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
71 pitches, 48 strikes (missed one batter). 11 swinging strikes.
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
1st: 95. 93
2nd: 96.95
3rd: 96 near end of 23 pitch inning, nothing after that
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the Bowling Green gun
Don;t know how good it is, announcers didn’t seem to either. Maybe mr. maniac or one of the other Rays guys can chime in with some context
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno how useful this is
But this is how I track outings when I do, so it gives pitch by pitch info for the outing:
Key: B=ball, C=called strike, S=swinging strike, F=foul, P=ball in play
^=slider, *=surve, +=change, ’=fastball
Characters after the dash identifying the batter are the pitches, the info after the colon the result
by MjwW on Jun 28, 2025 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This is cool, thanks
Looks like a lot of good change ups.
by Woodland League on Jun 29, 2025 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Ross vs AZL Rangers
That’s a tough draw on a rehab assignment. 2B, lineout, single, walk, walk, strikeout, and done.
by ROBERTS04 on Jun 28, 2025 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
i know it's Arizona and stats likely don't matter a bit
i really like that mazara and gallo have been walking
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Jun 28, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
now they chase Eflin
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Jun 28, 2025 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
of course he stayed hot
Two of the three Binghamton pitchers were lefties.
BIG handedness splits here.
by mrkupe on Jun 28, 2025 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Marisnick is another guy showing the non desirable side of the platoon split
by The_Bunk on Jun 28, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
not a super prospect on the levels of these guys
but Rangers 3B prospect Drew Robinson has some severe ones, too
.323/.456/.529 vs RHP in 155 AB
.200/.341/.271 vs LHP in 70 AB
an allegorical tale of fallopian fungus contemplating life beyond the cervical wall
by MonkeyEpoxy on Jun 28, 2025 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to butt in
But I was just looking at Brett Jackson’s reverse platoon split and thinking it might be somewhat encouraging.
http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=571804&split=2012
Then I glanced at the K rate again.
by Woodland League on Jun 28, 2025 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny Hultzen so far
2 inn, 1 hit, 3 BB, 3 K’s
struggling with the command a bit. 42 pitches-22 strikes-20 balls
Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
If you didn't know by now, my screen name is sarcastic
by mathisrocks5 on Jun 28, 2025 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
1 run also
Nick Adenhart will always be my favorite baseball player
If you didn't know by now, my screen name is sarcastic
by mathisrocks5 on Jun 28, 2025 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Franklin with a triple in same game.
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 28, 2025 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
2-3 so far
From the right side at that. Well, Jamie Moyer.
by Woodland League on Jun 29, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Done after 4
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Danny Hultzen 4.0 3 1 1 4 6 0 7.71
by Legalize It on Jun 28, 2025 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Owings
5-6, HR, 2B, 4 RBI, 3 R
Small sample size and a 7/1 K/BB ratio, but pretty impressive start for the 20 year old in AA ball.
by bbtng on Jun 28, 2025 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
solid prospect
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
McNutt ugly...
0.2 IP, 6H, 8R, 4ER, 1BB, 1HRA, 1HBP
by bdlugz on Jun 28, 2025 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
Next time, buddy. Next time....
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 28, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
k rate way down
and has only gone over 5 ip twice all year
by gobruins12345 on Jun 29, 2025 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
top 30 overall for me
A month + ago i had him 23-28 range.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 28, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not shocked he's hitting, but the SBs are very surprising to me at this point.
by bdlugz on Jun 28, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Same
Don’t see him being much of a threat on the basepaths in the bigs, but it’s interesting
by kyuss94 on Jun 29, 2025 2:44 AM EDT via Android app up reply actions
Currently hitting
.294/.381/.494 with 11SB and 0 CS.
I’m supposed to make it down to Peoria in July, I hope the kid is till playing there.
by bdlugz on Jun 29, 2025 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Baez:
Greatest Player Ever?
or merely Greatest Cub Ever?
by Philly:Blunt on Jun 29, 2025 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Seth Rosin
4 IP 2 H 1 ER 1 BB 7 K
4-1 GO/FO
Hi A San Jose Giants RHP was finally moved into rotation for his first start of the season
by wilriv21 on Jun 28, 2025 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
not done yet, but I'd be remiss if I didn't note this
With one AB still to go, Lancaster’s Telvin Nash is getting ready to go for the platinum sombrero.
Even for a guy who had 128 Ks in 68 games going into tonight, that’s an impressive feat.
by mrkupe on Jun 29, 2025 12:38 AM EDT reply actions
no K for Nash
Instead hit a HR, 21 on the season for him.
Some significant differences, but obviously Astros fans are hoping he’s on the Glenallen Hill path.
by mrkupe on Jun 29, 2025 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Until he breaks a bat on his shoulder during follow through and/or injures himself dreaming of Spiders, he is not in Glenallen’s class.
by realitypolice on Jun 29, 2025 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still never seen anything like that...
Who the hell figures rooftop seats have a shot at a home run?
by bdlugz on Jun 29, 2025 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The violent, ugly swing
Like Paul Bunyan trying to chop down a sequoia with one swing of his ax.
by cookiedabookie on Jun 29, 2025 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
.337/.434/.632 in June
8 HR.
Where’s the power? Oh. There it is.
And he doesn’t turn 20 until after the season. Will he see AA before that?
by PissedMick on Jun 29, 2025 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"Will he see AA"
I’m hoping, but I wonder if they’ll just let him have a full season there with a AA cup of coffee.
by charles wallace on Jun 29, 2025 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Grossman
12 game hitting streak
1-4, bb, k, cs.
he needs to refine his base running skills 7/14 in sb
by bk11 on Jun 29, 2025 1:25 AM EDT reply actions
AZL Rangers 6/28
Lewis Brinson: 3-5, 2 2B, 3B, BB
Nick Williams: 3-6, 2B
Ronald Guzman: 2-6
Joey Gallo: 2-5, 2B, BB, SO
Nomar Mazara: 2-4, 2B, 2 BB, SO
Luis Marte: 2-5, SB
by Tex2044 on Jun 29, 2025 1:32 AM EDT reply actions
Bruce Maxwell promoted to Vermont
goes 1-3, 2 BB’s, and a K
John Wooten (37th round pick this year) goes 3-4, BB, K
Fun with Small Samples, so far he’s started the year hot: .429/.435/.714, 2 HR’s, 2 BB’s, 8 K’s
Snoochies
You gotta Fister, Recker, then Parker outside
by guessatomo on Jun 29, 2025 1:37 AM EDT reply actions
Anthony Fernandez
escaped High Desert and now has 2 consecutive CGs for Jackson
9 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 8 K
by bp42810 on Jun 29, 2025 1:46 AM EDT reply actions
High Desert makes hitters mirages; makes pitchers men.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 29, 2025 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Seon Gi Kim
Promoted to Clinton following his 6 IP, 13 K performance with Everett
5 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 4 BB, 6 K
by bp42810 on Jun 29, 2025 1:50 AM EDT reply actions
Hanser A
1-4, 3b
so far 3k in 31ab (no walks)
love the low strikeouts, and even though he has a remarkable contact ability i wish he’d take a few more walks
by bk11 on Jun 29, 2025 2:00 AM EDT reply actions
Matt Barnes
1 IP, 3 ER, 4 H, 1 BB….anyone see what happened?
by gobruins12345 on Jun 29, 2025 2:12 AM EDT reply actions
Simon Castro
finally a good aaa start in his career
7 IP, 4 H, 9 K, 0 BB
by gobruins12345 on Jun 29, 2025 2:13 AM EDT reply actions
A few Padres guys
Yasmani Grandal 3-for-4, 2B, IBB; For June 365/478/554
Cory Spangenberg 0-for-3, but he’s back from the concussion-like symptoms quickly
Donavan Tate 0-for-1, BB in his Cal League debut as the back end of the Liriano promotion (appropriate, because he is definitely a back end)
Yeison Assencio 1-for-5, HR #7 in 35 games; he has one of the strangest sets of numbers I can remember: IsoP .214; Krate 8% BBrate 4%
Vince Belnome 2-for-5, 3B, HR in a rehab game in the AZL; should be back in Tucson this weekend.
by realitypolice on Jun 29, 2025 8:23 AM EDT reply actions
tate
He hasn’t been nearly this bad as a pro previously . . .his season line basically reads “checked out and waiting for his valet to bring his car up front”. Unfortunate as there was/is definitely talent here.
I’m thinking we’re going to hear a not-terribly-surprising announcement at the end of this season regarding which sport happens to be Tate’s new favorite sport.
by mrkupe on Jun 29, 2025 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You are likely right
He’s managed to wait out the three years over which his bonus was spread. When he was suspended last year, the club talked about either holding back or restructuring the last of the bonus, but ultimately decided not to. I understand they just figured it wasn’t worth it because at some point, he’d have to be motivated by something other than the signing bonus (and the rush of smoking fake pot) if he was going to succeed.
I was one of the folks who argued to give him a shot this year because, when his head wasn’t shoved up his ass last season he actually performed well. But I’ve now heard enough comments on his propensity for sleeping on the couch in the clubhouse while people who actually want to be baseball players go do drills, and seen the exact same “seems to be sleepwalking” phrase more than once. Heading into the draft, someone with the club told Byron Buxton will be “what Donavan Tate would have been if he gave a shit.”
Matt Bush might be the biggest bust of a #1 overall pick ever, but he’ll go down as only the second-most expensive waste of a pick by the Padres last decade.
On the upside, one of the take-aways from those twin experiences is that the Padres now employ one of the largest scouting staffs in the game, and they may do more in-depth work to get to know their picks today than any other team.
by realitypolice on Jun 29, 2025 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Jaff Decker
is he hurt? havent heard from him since may
by gobruins12345 on Jun 29, 2025 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Foot injury. After an MRI, they sent him out to Peoria. I’m guessing the fact that Cody Decker just got shipped back to San Antonio to get additional at-bats means that the 4 week time period they put on it at the start of the month was overly optimistic and they might not get him back for a while.
by realitypolice on Jun 29, 2025 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Brody Colvin with another excellent outing. Another month like this and he’ll regain his prospect status
by Nikk.m on Jun 29, 2025 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
Relief stint seems to have done him well.
3.13 ERA and 27:7 K:BB in 23 innings (four starts) since.
by PissedMick on Jun 29, 2025 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Olt
Anybody know why he hasnt played since the 22nd?
by miraclemets on Jun 29, 2025 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
Hammy/All Star Break
Will be in there soon
by kyuss94 on Jun 29, 2025 11:13 AM EDT via Android app up reply actions
Jackie Bradley Jr.
Cannot be stopped right now:
2-4 R, 2B, RBI
Hitting .382 through his first 34 AA AB’s
by miraclemets on Jun 29, 2025 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
So glad I picked him up in my dynasty league...
I thought he’d show a little this year, but this is 10x more than I expected or even could have hoped for.
by bdlugz on Jun 29, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
CF Oscar Taveras
3-4 including a HR & a double, 2 RBI in the Texas League All Star Game.
MVP of the game too, obviously (although he probably could’ve been designated just that pre-game with reasonable certainty too).
by Matt0330 on Jun 29, 2025 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Amen Brotha
Amen Brotha, he is amazing. Here are some good highlights from the game. . .
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/6/28/3123482/milb-gameday-6-28#106763442
Oscar’s blast is at :59 or so. With the simple, short step, quick turn, with the hands in an efficient starting place and, the ultra-stylish but, fundamentally sound finish, I have zero idea why anyone wouldn’t like his baseball swing.
i don’t rerally care much if anyone feels this is enciting an argument (it is, so what) or, trollish. It is the height of aroogance to take a very good minor league player and think that you know how they are supposed to swing the bat.
It is even more weird when said player clearly has a very, very sound baseball swing. The oddities surrounding Oscar never seem to cease.
It wasn’t so much that people had doubts but each one … one by one … were so absurd.
1) His BABIP in A-Bal?: Not a concern at all . it’s pretty clear he wasn’;t lucky last season, not enough to say anything negative as a prospect anyways.
2) His power on a scouting scale before the season?: He clearly has big-time power and, I’ve heard a scoutinjg concensus of 7 (from Jason Parks) on hjis power, which is backed up visually.
3) His makeup? Yes, makeup concerns were brought up: Now considered a positive in every report
4) Defense and athleticsm?: He is still learning there but, it is also clearly not a problem. Playing CF now, he has more than enough athleticsm for RF and, plenty of arm strength
5) Walks?: He walked a decent enough amount last year and, he is walking enough this year… aniother non-issuer. He recognizes pitches and can get into good counts. He just doesn’t come up there to walk, that’s all
6) The swing itself
Each and every one of these questions about him, are positives to his game and, they were before this season too, for the most part.
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jun 29, 2025 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
How about this
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120629&content_id=34134486&vkey=news_l109&fext=.jsp&sid=l109
by odbsol on Jun 29, 2025 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
Sorry, i shoukld have just posted that. i woke up cranky.
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jun 29, 2025 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Tiny little question for you
If it’s the height of arrogance for us to think how he should swing, and you are saying he has a good swing ( which is stating how someone should swing ) are you not castigating yourself?
by pedrophile on Jun 29, 2025 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right
perhaps if my initial reasons for liking him as a prospect were based on analysis of his swing but, they were based mostly on his age and, his results. Then again, it depends on who is doing the evaluating as well. All of it, after all, is just my opinion. I say look at the swing, from differtent angles, and tell me what you think. I am just moreso surprised that anyone would object to it, that’s all.
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jun 30, 2025 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
BABIP
of course its gonna be high when you hit .386
amazing someone could find that to be an argument/doubt.
by Jake Rafferty on Jun 29, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You realize that's the entire point?
Things normalize over time…. even BABIP. I’m not even making this a discussion about OT, because that’s like beating my head against a wall with his fans on this site, but rather a general baseball point.
by bdlugz on Jun 30, 2025 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
No it isn't like that
I’m the only one who is likie that among his fans,that I know of
AND, I’m perfectly willing to talk about any point about him or, any generall baseball point :) I have just never found a point being made about him - a negative point, that is - that held any water for me.
The point I was making, relating to your poiunt and to Oscar’s BABIP last year, wasn’t that it wasn’t high but, that people used it to make a larger point about him as a prospect because of it … he isn’t so good, he has much to prove and was just lucky, etc. I said he was both excellently great and, perhaps a bit lucky also. Good hitters tend to create nice BABIPs for themselves though.
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jun 30, 2025 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
No they don't normalize to the mean.
If that was the case all hitters would have almost the same batting line.
by pedrophile on Jun 30, 2025 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, it is crazy
i had this debate last season here with a kid who wanted to say that the .260 hitting Xander had more power than the .386 hitting Oscat and just, calmly, “normalize” all of thier other hits and voila, all even. I just disagree with that entire way of looking at things.
"The worst things that you say sound better than the best things that some other people say" - Hannah Horvath
by casejud on Jul 1, 2025 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
It's like when someone is on a hot streak or cold streak and everyone talks about normalizing
That is just nonsense. Like when Josh Hamilton was tearing it up. It’s not like he was getting lucky. And then Josh was hitting poorly. It wasn’t “normalizing”, it was a player getting anxious and chasing everything. In his poor stretch he wasn’t unlucky, he actually was a worse hitter. For that stretch.
by pedrophile on Jul 1, 2025 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Brandon Jacobs
3-6, 2b, his 6th HR, 2 R, 2 RBI. Now .272/.323/.426 as of yesterday.
by Matt0330 on Jun 29, 2025 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
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