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Toronto Blue Jays 2011 Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review

Toronto Blue Jays 2011 Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review

I am reviewing my PRE-SEASON list of Top 20 prospects for 2011 for each organization, continuing today with the Toronto Blue Jays. This list was originally published January 9, 2011. We will look at the Washington Nationals on Wednesday, the San Diego Padres on Thursday, the New York Yankees on Friday, the Pittsburgh Pirates on Saturday, and the Philadelphia Phillies on Sunday.

This is a review of the 2011 Pre-Season Top 20 list. IT IS NOT A NEW LIST.

The 2012 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book.

1) Kyle Drabek, RHP, Grade A-: In my book I warned that his command could be an issue if he was pushed to the majors without Triple-A exposure. It was more than an issue; his command killed him (5.70 ERA, 48/52 K/BB in 73 innings) and he's pitched even worse since going back to Triple-A (6.93 ERA, 27/22 K/BB, 52 hits in 38 innings). Still too young and talented to give up on, but has a lot of work to do.

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2) Brett Lawrie, 3B, Grade B+: Would be in the majors now if he hadn't broken his hand. Hitting .357/.420/.679 for Triple-A Las Vegas, 12 steals, 18 homers. Hitting .368/.438/.684 since coming off the DL. He's ready.

3) Deck McGuire, RHP, Grade B+:   2.75 ERA with 102/38 K/BB in 105 innings for High-A Dunedin, 89 hits. Just promoted to Double-A New Hampshire. So far, everything is going according to plan.

4) Zach Stewart, RHP, Grade B+:  He hasn't lived up to my expectations, but he can still be a useful inning-eater type. 4.20 ERA with 79/27 K/BB in 101 innings for New Hampshire, 116 hits. Made three major league starts. Traded to White Sox.

5) Asher Wojciechowski, RHP, Grade B: 5.42 ERA with 72/28 K/BB in 96 innings for Dunedin, 118 hits. Throws strikes but not as dominant as pre-season scouting reports predicted. Just went on DL.

6) Carlos Perez, C, Grade B:  Hitting .274/.336/.374 with 29 walks, 61 strikeouts in 305 at-bats for Low-A Lansing. Blah season with the bat. Has caught 28% of runners, passed ball and error rates rather high. Still young at 20.

7) Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Grade B:   6.07 ERA with 31/15 K/BB in 30 innings, 35 hits, for rookie-level Bluefield. Sample small of course, good strikeout rate.

8) J.P. Arencibia, C, Grade B-.  Hitting .222/.284/.457 with 17 homers, 23 walks, 89 strikeouts in 293 at-bats for the Blue Jays. Exactly as predicted: lots of power, but a poor batting average and OBP.

9) Travis D'Arnaud, C, Grade B-: Hitting .321/.392/.545 with 14 homers, 28 walks, 68 strikeouts in 308 at-bats for New Hampshire, has thrown out 30% of runners. Breakthrough campaign.

10) Anthony Gose, OF, Grade B-:  Hitting .255/.357/.401 with 48 steals, 52 walks, 110 strikeouts in 384 at-bats for New Hampshire. Stellar defense. Starting to develop some power, plate discipline gradually coming around.

11) Eric Thames, OF, Grade B-:  Hit .352/.423/.610 with 23 walks, 41 strikeouts in 210 at-bats for Las Vegas. Hitting .285/.326/.48 with nine walks, 41 strikeouts in 165 major league at-bats. He needs some strike zone adjustments but overall his rookie season is going quite well.

12) Noah Syndergaard, RHP, Grade B-:   1.41 ERA with 37/11 K/BB in 32 innings for Bluefield in the Appy League, 23 hits. Looks great in a small sample.

13) Dickie Joe Thon, SS, Grade B-:  Hitting .286/.433/.429 with 19 walks, 28 strikeouts, four steals in 77 at-bats for the GCL Blue Jays. Looks good, sample small.

14) Kellen Sweeney, 3B, Grade B-: Went 4-for-35 (.114) in nine games for Bluefield before going on DL with a hand injury.

15) Griffin Murphy, LHP, Grade B-:  6.58 ERA with 25/9 K/BB in 26 innings for Bluefield, 36 hits. Good strikeout rate, other numbers not too hot, sample small.

16) Jake Marisnick, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .310/.383/.481 with 10 homers, 25 steals, 33 walks, 66 strikeouts in 335 at-bats for Lansing. He's successfully turning his tools into skills and his stock is way up with me, at least a Grade B prospect at this point.

17) Chad Jenkins, RHP, Grade C+:  3.07 ERA, 44/14 K/BB in 67 innings, 71 hits for Dunedin. 4.43 ERA with 41/19 K/BB in 63 innings, 63 hits for New Hampshire. Still looks like a workhorse type.

18) Adeiny Hechavarria, SS, Grade C+: Hitting .228/.265/.333 with 21 walks, 70 strikeouts, 19 steals but 11 caught in 430 at-bats for New Hampshire. I am still doubtful that his bat will be good enough for him to play regularly no matter how strong the defense is.

19) Marcus Knecht, OF, Grade C+:  Hitting .302/.397/.491 with 48 walks, 85 strikeouts, 11 homers in 328 at-bats for Lansing. Impressive campaign.

20) Henderson Alvarez, RHP, Grade C+:   2.82 ERA with 61/16 K/BB in 83 innings for New Hampshire, 74 hits, 1.60 GO/AO. Throws strikes, picks up grounders.

21) Drew Hutchison, RHP, Grade C+: Breakthrough prospect, 2.63 ERA with 84/19 K/BB in 72 innings for Lansing, 68 hits, then 3.43 ERA with 38/10 K/BB in 39 innings for Dunedin, 32 hits. Overall, a combined 122/29 K/BB with a 1.49 GO/AO and two homers allowed. Moving quickly up prospect lists.

22) Joel Carreno, RHP, Grade C+:   3.45 ERA with 136/59 K/BB in 115 innings for New Hampshire, 84 hits. Control needs some work, but very impressive K/IP and H/IP marks.

23) Alan Farina, RHP, Grade C+:  1.56 ERA with 16/7 K/BB in 17 innings for New Hampshire, went on DL in late May.

24) Justin Nicolino, LHP, Grade C+:   1.22 ERA, 51/10 K/BB in 37 innings for short-season Vancouver, 21 hits. Excellent performance, stock is rising.

Well, I don't see how Blue Jays fans can be anything but happy. Even with Drabek being a disappointment, there is a lot more good than bad here, headlined by Lawrie and Thames, and there is more pitching on the way up.  

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Carlos Perez

He’s had a very nice July. 351/421/473 slash, walked almost as much as he struck out. Maybe a rebound will keep him in the B- range?

The MLB Jays will posed for a very nice 2012, if they can upgrade 2B. Too bad they’re in the AL East.

by Croatoan on Aug 2, 2025 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I think long term he's still the best catcher they have

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by t ball on Aug 2, 2025 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, d’Arnaud is

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get the Perez love

He’s a good prospect, but is he not more polish than tools?

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by Jeff Reese on Aug 2, 2025 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nestor Molina

Where would he fit in this current pack of prospects (or what would his grade be)?

by dbreer23 on Aug 2, 2025 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

If I had to guess

I would say C+/B- range, peripherals are unreal but scouting reports are less than stellar (lack of upside). So it really depends on what people value the reports or the stats.

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by achengy on Aug 2, 2025 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

doesn’t he throw in the low 90’s with splitter and I believe a curveball/slider. its his first year as a starter too. The comparison I’ve seen thrown around there is Marcum/Haren. I see good upside in him

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally see good upside in him

just commenting on what’s out there right now. I heard he works mainly in the high 80s. Either way the key point is that he’s on everyone’s radar and another season like this one would probably elevate his stock high, especially if his K rate and BB rates stay relatively the same (likely going to decrease a bit anyway).

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by achengy on Aug 2, 2025 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haren/Kuroda is the comparison I see most fit. Is his ceiling that high? Possibly.

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you see Wojciechowski being a reliever, or potentially a closer in the future? Personally, I think he would do better in that role.

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Very possible

Asher Wojciechowski’s reliance on his FB, present lack of a serviceable change, command issues, etc make this a not altogether unlikely future scenario & the organizational pitching depth on his heels & around him will likely also factor in. His slider has promise, the FB/SL mix could play well in short relief if he focuses on those offerings.

That being said, Toronto should absolutely keep Wojciechowski as a starter in the minor for as long as possible unless it becomes counterproductive to said pitcher’s career to do so.

by Matt0330 on Aug 4, 2025 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that any team would be wise to keep their best pitching prospects as starters throughout the minors, even if they are projected as closers. The more innings they get to perfect their stuff and work out the kinks, the better they will be at the major league level. There have been many relievers who have struggled in the majors after being promoted aggressively through the minors, with few minor league innings. The most successful (Mariano, K-Rod, Wagner, etc.) were starters through the minors.

by cookiedabookie on Aug 4, 2025 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gose

it will be interesting if Gose turns into a better MLBer than Aaron Hicks. Best friends, were the first two Compton Academy kids drafted, but Hicks was always the star and Gose the project.

Hate to throw out the stereotypical African American comp for Gose, but anyone else think he could turn into a Mike Cameron-light? That is stellar CF defense, speed, power (although Gose is probably 15-20 HR while Cam was 25-30 in his prime), low averages but good plate discipline?

As a bonus Gose swings it lefty and has a much better arm than Cameron. Maybe the best OF arm in all the minors

by ScottAZ on Aug 2, 2025 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Trayvon Robinson begs to differ

I know his deal with the UYA was a bit different, but he’s certainly among their alum, and was drafted three years before those guys.

by realitypolice on Aug 2, 2025 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Academy

Compton didn’t open until 2006, Robinson graduated high school 2005. He was a graduate of the RBI Program however

by ScottAZ on Aug 2, 2025 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitchell Taylor, Adonys Cardona

Two other young SS pitchers putting together good strikeout rates with decent control. Any word on either?

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

24 yr old David Cooper

Leading the entire PCL in BA and OBP, 5th in OPS and SLG, has a 46/32 BB/K ratio, and right now, is he even one of our top 20 prospects?

by JayTeam on Aug 2, 2025 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Doubtful

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by Jeff Reese on Aug 2, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not

But really fascinating. An 8.2% K rate this year, leading the minors in doubles. If he were doing something like this in the majors, he’d be a very unique type of player.

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

People were fairly high on him after the 2008 season

He has had two rough years, but I am a sucker for players who walk more than they strike out. Obviously, there is some PCL and BABIP inflation here, but he should still probably be in the top 20 for next year as a C+/B- prospect.

by cookiedabookie on Aug 2, 2025 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he’s a better hitter than brett wallace, although that’s not really saying much. but it just goes to show how good this system is when cooper isn’t even a noteworthy prospect.

by luckiswithme on Aug 2, 2025 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I still think Cooper can be a serviceable major leaguer, might not have a big role though. I think he’s a solid trade chip for the Jays (C+ with major league readiness some GMs do like).

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by achengy on Aug 2, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calling Ed Wade?

Maybe we can get another high-ceiling prospect for a major-league ready, low-ceiling, defensively challenged first baseman?

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Singleton available?

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this list doesn't include the likes of Molina and McDade

I love this farm!

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I like this game.

How about Michael Crouse? .270/.356/.487 in Lansing with 35/8 S/CS

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO MANY CHOICES!

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's an underrated one

Moises Sierra:

.267/.333/.439

15 HR, 16 2B, 2 3B, 54 RBI

Barfield-esque arm.

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Molina was anyone’s radar coming into the season but he’s had quite a season.

If McDade can improve his walks a little bit, he will become a really good prospect

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

John

Have you got anything on Chris Hawkins and/or Myles Jaye?

by Woodman663 on Aug 2, 2025 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Besides the International haul this summer IF AA can reel in...

Beede and Norris, one of Anderson or Smith, three of: Comer, Stilson, Biggs, Dean and Chin. Musgrove, Gabryszwski and Burns are already signed. WOW. We’ll know by Mid-August.

Wouldn’t Beede and Norris look ever so good mixed in with those other high end young pitchers? WOW.

by Mylegacy on Aug 2, 2025 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

one of Anderson or Smith

He signed Anderson a few days ago.

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome system

such a deep system AA has built up in 2 years. taking out drabek, lawrie, JPA, thames, and stewart to graduation and trades; while replacing them with the 2011 draftees and the system is still looking great!

although, i think a lot of these young arms will be used as trade bait for high end talent at the MLB level in the near future.

by luckiswithme on Aug 2, 2025 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember this system pre-December 2009?

it was the farm equivalent of a leper colony. Great work in the trade market & in the 2010/11 draft processes by Alex Anthoplous, Andy Tinnish et al.

by Matt0330 on Aug 4, 2025 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Marisnick

Any projections on what type of major leaguer he will be? HRs? SB?

by Pappagiorgio on Aug 2, 2025 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

its pre-mature but I think he could be a 20-20 guy, perhaps more. He’s got developing power and has good speed and is starting to hit well, draws walk. Take this comparison lightly but maybe Grady Sizemore lite? He’s got tons of potential

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jake is...

One third of the very talented Lansing Outfield of Crouse (21 in 2012), Knecht (21 in 2012), and Marisnick (21 in 2012). All three of these guys are serious talents. The highest end guy is Crouse - he has great speed and power but he’s the roughest around the edges, Marisnick can do most everything very well and Knecht looks to have prodigious power and pretty good other skills as well.

As Gose continues to develop his OBP skills - like he’s starting to do this year - and with some kid named Rasmus in CF for the Jays now - and - with Crouse and Knecht BOTH having more power than Marisnick and looking like quality corner outfielder types - I see Jake being a very good trade piece down the road. Did I mention a kid named Sierra?

by Mylegacy on Aug 2, 2025 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yet

Marisnick doesn’t strike out as much as those other guys and might turn out to be the best guys of them all. I think AA might trade some pitchers, but he shouldn’t trade hitting prospects like Gose, Marisnick, d’Arnaud: guys who can both hit and field.

by Woodman663 on Aug 2, 2025 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything except the highest end guy being Crouse.

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overall tools and ceiling

Crouse has more speed and raw power, but he strikes out a lot
He has more potential but higher bust potential
Marisnick’s ceiling is more realistic than Crouses, thats why hes considered the better prospect

by FenixL on Aug 3, 2025 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At some point in 2012...

FIVE - SERIOUS - prospects are going to challenge for a starters role in Toronto…

Starting from the oldest (ages are as of opening day 2012):

Carreno (25), Molina (23), Alvarez (22), McGuire (21) and Hutchison (21) - not to mention Drabek -IF - he gets his stuff together.

by Mylegacy on Aug 2, 2025 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

McGuire born 06/23/89...

Opens 2012 at the tender age of: 21…

by Mylegacy on Aug 2, 2025 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh?

1989+21=2010. In other words, he turned 21 in June 2010, and he’s already 22 now.

by Woodman663 on Aug 2, 2025 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

ER...

April 09 he was 19. April 10 he was 20, April 11 he was 21 - April 2012 he will be 22.

Woodman663 - sorry about that - I got the red beads and the blue beads on my abacus mixed up - one too many scotch’s I think. Time for a refill.

by Mylegacy on Aug 2, 2025 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

overoptimistic

All could quite possibly need another full year’s experience in the minors. Carreno and McGuire might develop sufficiently to be mid-season call-ups, and Alvarez’s stuff is good enough that he might put it together in short order, but both Molina and Hutchison are almost certainly both going to spend all of next year in New Hampshire.

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I MOSTLY agree...

Hutchison is looking to be a prodigious prospect and may force the Jay’s hand. Molina is FANTASTIC - but is still having his innings stretched as a starter and Alvarez is very near ready for prime time. Of these three Molina is the most likely to not get a look see in 2012. I SERIOUSLY expect both Alvarez and Hutchison to get AT LEAST a September call-up in 12. Both those guys area BIG part of the Ja’s rotation going forward, God willin’ and the river don’t flood. Sometimes - sh*t happens, eh?

by Mylegacy on Aug 2, 2025 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I don’t think they will be rushed. Although maybe McGuire or Alvarez will be brought up mid-season if they’re performing well and/or the rotation needs help.

by Woodman663 on Aug 2, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Such a Strong System

Plus they had a great draft if they can sign most of them.
Arguably the best system in the league.

by FenixL on Aug 2, 2025 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Joel Carreno

Positives: h/9, k/9

Negatives: bb/9 and gb%

I doubt he’ll succeed as a starter in the AL East so unless he’s traded, I think he’ll be a reliever with Toronto. That said, he should be a pretty good reliever.

by The_Bunk on Aug 2, 2025 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Don’t think he has much upside in the Toronto system. May be given a shot and he HAS to run with it. No room for error so he could end up in the pen or traded.

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by achengy on Aug 2, 2025 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s his stuff that is often questioned, the numbers are pretty sound. He’s had plus control in the past, this is the first year it’s really slipped. At the same time, his H/9 are way down this season, so perhaps he’s nibbling, getting weaker contact, but walking more batters.

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s the first year the control has slipped but it’s also slipping in Double A which is considered the hurdle that separates the real prospects. So his control may have been plus in the low minors but his stint in Double A may be more indicative of the true grade of his control.

Just a thought, I don’t know for sure.

by The_Bunk on Aug 2, 2025 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strikeout rates generally erode more dramatically than walk rates as players move up the ladder, but for Carreno it’s been the opposite, which I think is, on balance, better than the alternative. He’ll have to regain his control, but I think that’s easier than acquiring a new skill.

by gabrielsyme on Aug 2, 2025 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much depth.

What teams have more depth?

by mr. maniac on Aug 2, 2025 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rays

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by Frag on Aug 2, 2025 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

and probably Rangers

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by Jeff Reese on Aug 2, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought Hutchison was going to be good from seeing him in his minor league debut last year in Auburn

Thought he had an advanced changeup for his age, solid fastball, and solid breaking ball. He is now much better than when I first saw him, but I thought he was going to be a good one.

by Bravesin07 on Aug 2, 2025 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Any idea where Hutchison fastball sits? I heard low 90’s somewhere

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

as for this year

I believe BA mentioned earlier this season that Hutchison has added a couple of ticks to his fastball and now sits in the low 90s.

by mrkupe on Aug 2, 2025 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard he touches 95 now and then

by ayjackson on Aug 2, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, he is putting up excellent numbers

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, he ends up going 5 IP, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 K’s. 8-1 GO/AO.

Anyone know where his velocity is at now? Has it improved or is it still high 80’s to low 90’s?

by Sniderlover on Aug 2, 2025 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Class A SS is too easy for him.

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by Frag on Aug 3, 2025 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

will try to post a more detailed report later...

but I’m rushed right now. Just saw Nicolino pitch live tonight and wow-way too good for this league. The one hit was a ground ball hit exactly 1 1/2 steps to the 3B’s left and Fuenmayor just kind of waved at it. The air out was a lazy pop fly to LF that resulted in a spectacular catch. Everything else in play was a slow rolling grounder. The changeup flashes true plus potential, with some truly awful swings by the opposition. Still inconsistent though. Nicolino was getting squeezed by the ump big time, did not get a single call on the corners. Curve didn’t look like much most of the time, although he did throw a really nastly one in his final inning for a swinging K. Sat 90-92, hit 93 a bunch of times. Saw one 94, but I didn’t see the gun on every pitch. When you consider how skinny he still looks out there-I don’t think even more velocity is out of the question. Also perhaps most impressive-his mechanics are impeccable, he finished every pitch in the same spot, never once off balance,

Keep in mind-I am not an expert, just a fan. I have pics and maybe some vid, but it’ll take a while to post as I am busy.

by Waveburner on Aug 3, 2025 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds good to me. I appreciate it.

by Sniderlover on Aug 3, 2025 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the report.

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by Frag on Aug 3, 2025 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds right, thanks

Meshes with the Churchill report from about a month ago.

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by Jeff Reese on Aug 3, 2025 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saw the game as well, largely in agreement with Waveburner. I think Nicolino was working on his curveball - I think he threw it as much as his changeup. Didn’t catch the 94; I would have said the stadium gun had him at 89-91, getting up to 93 - perhaps Wabeburner had a different gun he was looking at.

by gabrielsyme on Aug 3, 2025 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s been sitting 90-94, and has touched 95 here and there.

by Alfamale on Aug 3, 2025 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Nicolino’s velocity tonight according to the Nat Bailey scoreboard readings:
Fastball around 90 mph (I saw him dial one up to 94 last time out)
Change-up around 80 mph
Curve around 75
I sat behind home plate tonight to get a good look at the change-up & the curve. The change (from my untrained eyes) looks just like the fastball in terms of motion & spin. A couple of the curves hung a little bit but it seems like a pretty good 3rd offering. His key is his control & the change. It is enough to dominate at this level but it will be interesting to see how he does at higher levels.
I do like that the Jays are trying to limit his innings (3 IP relief stint last week, only 5 IP tonight even though he had a 1 hit shutout going at the time).

by brangle on Aug 3, 2025 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

that’s good to hear, thanks!

by Sniderlover on Aug 3, 2025 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alex is doing everything he can to help the Jays compete

It will be interesting to see if he’ll turn any more Olivo type deals to get a pick or two for next season…

What happens to GMs that have this kind of success to start their careers? Will he get bored and want another challenge? Or is this the kind of role he could keep for a decade and lead the franchise to some serious glory years?

by LimeyJaysFan on Aug 3, 2025 6:02 AM EDT reply actions  

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