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Prospect Retro Redux: Kevin Youkilis

Prospect Retro Redux: Kevin Youkilis

I wrote a prospect retro for Kevin Youkilis back in October of 2007. I've received several requests over the last month or so for a look back at his development, so let's revisit his minor league career and see where he now stands in context.

Here is what I wrote back in 2007:

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Kevin Youkilis was drafted by the Boston Red Sox in the eighth round of the 2001 draft, from the University of Cincinnati. He'd hit .405/.549/.714 with 22 steals, 59 walks, and 21 strikeouts for Cincinnati, but scouts didn't like him much. He wasn't toolsy, looked slow and awkward on defense, and they didn't think he'd hit for power with wood. Youkilis hit .317/.512/.464 with an incredible 70 walks in 59 games for Lowell in the New York-Penn League, earning the sobriquet "The Greek God of Walks" from statheads. I gave him a Grade B- in the 2002 book.

Youkilis began 2002 with Augusta in the Sally League, but earned a promotion to the Florida State League after just 15 games. For Sarasota he hit .295/.422/.388 in 76 games, then moved up to Double-A Trenton where he hit .344/.462/.500 in 44 games. I gave him a Grade B+ in the 2003 book, and noted that his defense, while not wonderful, was underrated in my opinion. He was still downplayed by some scouts and traditionalists, but his contact ability was special, his strike zone judgment was superb, and he had enough pop to keep pitchers honest.

2003 began similarly: he hit .327/.487/.465 in 94 games for Double-A Portland. But a summer promotion to Triple-A Pawtucket was a disaster: he hit just .165 in 32 games. Granted he continued to control the strike zone, drawing 18 walks in 109 at-bats, but all the skeptics were now out in droves and claimed he couldn't hit advanced pitching. I still gave him a Grade B in the 2004 book, and figured that there was a "better than 50/50" chance he would adjust and resume raking soon enough. Scouts did note that he'd worked hard at his defense and was rated as an average defender by this point.

Youkilis ended up spending more than half of 2004 with the Red Sox, hitting .260/.367/.413. He's gradually boosted his production from that point, and while he hasn't hit .300 in the majors, he's shown enough power and on-base ability to make himself a regular, albeit now at first base rather than third. Statistically at least he's turned into an very good-to-excellent defender at first base.

I can't prove it, but one of these years, either 2008 or 2009, I think he's going to go on a tear and hit .340 or something. He won't repeat it, ending up back at the .280ish with walks level the rest of his career, but I think he's capable of one huge season.

Well he didn't hit .340, but I was right about his breakout potential. On the other hand, I was wrong about his ability to sustain the breakout: he's had not one but two outstanding seasons (.312/.390/.569, 143 OPS+ in '08, .305/.413/.548, 145 OPS+ in '09.). He hasn't come to Earth yet either, hitting .303/.431/.533 so far in 2010.

Youk is a terrific hitter, due greatly to his terrific knowledge of the strike zone. Keep in mind that scouts never liked his physical tools, and even the ones who respected his college performance at Cincinnati were unenthusiastic about his power potential and ability to sustain his hitting at higher levels. This was a stathead pick that really panned out well.

Historical comparisons:

SIM SCORES: Tommy Henrich, Moises Alou, Wally Judnich, Trot Nixon, Brad Hawpe, Hank Leiber, Bob Nieman, Jeff Conine, Juan Rivera, and Jeffrey Hammonds.

PECOTA Comps: John Jaha, Ryan Klesko, Bob Watson, Gil Hodges, Tino Martinez, Todd Helton, Bill White, Sal Bando, Richie Hebner, and George Scott.

Lots of good players here, no Hall of Famers yet although Helton will have a case once he's eligible. Youkilis is on the wrong side of 30 now, and it will be interesting to see what kind of age curve he has. I'm not convinced that he will age well, but given his tendency to disprove doubters, he could very well last longer than expected.

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haha

Truly, worthy of Dorothy Parker.

by DevilsAdvocate on May 15, 2025 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course he does
look up the numbers. almost identical to Teixieras.

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by bestbostonsports on May 16, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes really

In fact, Youkilis has had a better average wOBA in 2008-2010 than Teixeira.

by OremLK on May 17, 2025 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was only kidding about Youkalis sucking

but Im sorry Tex is better than Youkalis he does everything better

by Yankees10 on May 17, 2025 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Yankees Fan

Even I wish we had Youk rather than Tex, even more so once the contracts are factored in.

by cookiedabookie on May 16, 2025 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yankee fan?

No Yankee fan would say that

by Yankees10 on May 16, 2025 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that case

Tex must’ve been a real bum before 2009.

by cookiedabookie on May 17, 2025 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

No actually Tex has been one of the best 1B in the league since he entered it

Your crazy if you truly are a Yankee fan and would rather have Youkalis over him. Which probably means you arent

by Yankees10 on May 17, 2025 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny how some guys "without tools"

can turn to good players.

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by feslenraster on May 15, 2025 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I missed on this guy

I’ve been swingin’ on John Sickels’ nuts since the late 1990s. He told us about Youk, said he would be at least decent, foreshadowed a breakout.

I thought Sickels was wrong. Everyone said he had a bad body, no athleticism.

Stupid me.

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by criminal type on May 15, 2025 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't buy it either.

Thought Youk would be ok and have a short career. Never though he would hit for the power he has. He’s got a great feel for hitting and a great appoach… and that carried him. Unusual development pattern… became LESS patient midcareer and started driving the ball more. Weird guy with the smarts and drive to make it work and surpass his tools.

Fun player to watch. I find it hilarious how he’s hated around the league for some reason.

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by alskor on May 16, 2025 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you watched him bat/bitch/dramatize everything?

if so, you shouldnt wonder why he’s so hated

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on May 17, 2025 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy kills the ball

and doesn’t get into trouble off the field. I’d be thrilled if Youk was on the A’s.

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by gatling on May 17, 2025 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big fan of these Retros

Another interesting segment would be players with similar Retros but different results, and why one went up and one went down.

by SagehenMacGyver47 on May 17, 2025 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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