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Prospects in the Mike Adams Trade

Prospects in the Mike Adams Trade

The San Diego Padres traded reliever Mike Adams to the Texas Rangers for two pitching prospects, right-hander Joe Wieland and southpaw Robbie Erlin. Let's look at this haul.

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Robbie Erlin, LHP: Erlin was drafted by the Rangers in the third round in 2009, from high school in Scotts Valley, California. Extremely polished, the 20-year-old southpaw works with a fastball with mediocre velocity at 87-92 MPH, but he locates the heater well and mixes it effectively with an above-average curveball and changeup. He is a fly ball pitcher and his main problem is a high home run rate. Erlin posted a 2.14 ERA with a spectacular 62/5 K/BB in 55 innings this year with just 25 hits allowed for High-A Myrtle Beach, then a 4.32 ERA with a 61/7 K/BB in 67 innings for Double-A Frisco, with 73 hits allowed. I gave him a Grade B pre-season and he's at least that now, despite the lack of superior velocity.

Joe Wieland, RHP: A 21-year-old right-hander, Wieland was drafted in the fourth round in 2008, from high school in Reno, Nevada. He was rated a breakthrough candidate pre-season and indeed has broken through, with a 2.10 ERA and a 96/4 K/BB in 86 innings for Myrtle Beach, 78 hits, followed by a 1.23 ERA in 44 innings for Frisco with a 36/11 K/BB and 35 hits. He threw a no-hitter in his last start. Wieland has an average heater at 88-92 MPH, but his command is excellent and he mixes in a good slider and curveball. His changeup still needs some work, but his command is among the best in the minor leagues. I gave him a C+ pre-season but put him in the B/B+ range now, along with Erlin, despite his lack of a huge fastball.

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According to scouts Weiland is up to sitting at 90-92

topping at 94 now… one of the reasons why Texas was very hesitant in dealing him.

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes;!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2025 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Say if Wieland masters his change

Which he’ll need to do to find success in the majors, is he the a Greg Maddox clone in terms of stuff?

by Kyle Schnitzer on Jul 31, 2025 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

that's just silly

there aren’t any Maddux clones ANYWHERE.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 1, 2025 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

my tinfoil hat

Those things can get pretty tight.

by blackoutyears on Aug 1, 2025 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe “My TInfoil Hat” is my new band name!

by realitypolice on Aug 1, 2025 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, the only position of real weakness for us

was bullpen. between Uehara and Adams, we made that a position of strength moving forward, without giving anything up too major (keep in mind just how deep the texas system really is. Erlin and Wieland, in the community prospect ranking (take with a grain of salt), were only number 4 and 8 in the system. they would be much, much higher in most other systems.)

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2026 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Jul 31, 2025 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait until you have to watch this relief pitcher snuff your rally's.

You’ll see why the price was high.

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by padmadfan on Aug 1, 2025 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing as how Oakland and the Mariners...

have no shot at catching Texas, what the hell would they care since there were very few successful rallies happening against the Rangers before they had Adams and Uehara?

Angels not so much… but fuck the Angels.

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by jameslcrockett on Aug 13, 2025 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Erlin and Weiland are exactly the types of players the Rangers can afford to trade away

Neither player has a truly high ceiling yet both players have rather sturdy, high floors. Both will be decent ML pitchers and their numbers will probably play up going to Petco. But neither would have likely made much of an impact on the Rangers staff in the coming years. Between the high ceiling young guys like Ogando, Harrison, and Holland we currently have in the majors and Martin Perez and perhaps Neil Ramirez in the upper minors and the group of youngsters in Low and High A the Rangers could afford to part with Erlin and Weiland for a guy in Adams who is one of the best in baseball at his position and is under control for 2012 as well.

Had the Rangers made this trade for a rental in Bell I think the reaction would be different amongst Ranger fans but given we got back Adams it is fine even though losing two top 10 prospects from your system is a pretty good blow

by bigsteve on Aug 1, 2025 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a lazy generalization

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Aug 2, 2025 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Erlin's grade

Unless I’m missing something, it looks like you gave Erlin a B+ in the 2011 book, not a B.

by walnut falcons on Jul 31, 2025 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yeah

John’s original grade for Erlin was a B+, but it was changed to a B along with other grade corrections.

by auclairkeithbc on Jul 31, 2025 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erlin or Wieland?

For dynasty league purposes, which of these two would you prefer to own if given the choice?

by Pappagiorgio on Jul 31, 2025 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

wieland

For me, he looks outstanding in petco with his stuff improving across the board.

by St.Steve on Jul 31, 2025 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erlin for me

I like Wieland, but I don’t think he’s as safe and I don’t see him having much more of an upside.

by auclairkeithbc on Jul 31, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wieland

I think Wieland has the higher upside, but Erlin is both safer and more likely to reach his upside. Would still be a good move to try to flip one of them or Casey Kelly for a bat.

by mattp31 on Jul 31, 2025 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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