Milwaukee Brewers Organization Discussion
I am now working on the Kansas City Royals Top 20 prospects list and book comments. The next team on the list is the Milwaukee Brewers, followed by the Philadelphia Phillies, Detroit Tigers, St. Louis Cardinals, and Texas Rangers.
Use this thread to discuss the Brewers farm system. As always, feel free to point out sleepers, overlooked players, etc. A point for discussion: this farm system was gutted to build the playoff team for 2011. What do you expect for 2012 and beyond? Did they blow it all for this year or can this team compete in the medium and long-term?
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Wily Peralta could make it to the majors next season
He really took a nice step forward from last year and did well in AAA.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 12, 2025 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
him and scarpetta r the only guys i’ve even thought about in their minors, pretty bleak
by Noah McKinnie Braun on Oct 12, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jed Bradley? Taylor Jungmann?
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by mathisrocks5 on Oct 12, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Bradley / Jungmann are 1-2 in my opinion. Both B+/B fringe guys, leaning B+ for Bradley, B for Jungmann. I’m a big big believer of the former
by gore51 on Oct 12, 2025 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely 1-2
I’d flip them and make them both B guys, but they’re both in that general range.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 12, 2025 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
im in a league without a deep farm system, so the only 2011 draftees im looking at r cream of the crop, or any1 that signed earlier and got in playing time (neither did). but yes both are high lvl pitching prospects
by Noah McKinnie Braun on Oct 13, 2025 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thornburg?
Has a ways to go if he wants to start, but he could make a very nice reliever if need be.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 12, 2025 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly Tyler Thornburg....
They still have Scarpetta, Rogers, Thornburg, Perlata, and now Jungmann, and Bradley its not all that bleak.
Plus because of his post-season failures I predict they will trade Marcum to a team like The Twins in the off-season for a guy like a Gibson or Wimmers or Hicks and Kevin Slowey..lets say.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 13, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
ah yes, Brett Lawrie for Alex Wimmers and Kevin Slowey, great way to keep a job
by mrkupe on Oct 13, 2025 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Still think they deal Marcum/
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 14, 2025 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
he looks like a promising young arm
by James Westfall on Oct 12, 2025 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
In the "Not necessarily a prospect" category
What happens to Gamel? Milwaukee 1B next year?
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by Savoy on Oct 12, 2025 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
If they don't sign someone better
Considering the glut of 1B on the market, I imagine they could get one of the second-tier guys while still being players for a Reyes or a Rollins. Would be a heck of a lot safer than throwing Gamel into the fire on a team that wants to contend. If nothing else, I’d look for a platoon bat partner for him.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 12, 2025 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Gamel
He’s been a prospect for-evvvver. For some reason, I think he’ll hit in the majors. Not be a world beater by any means, but but a 250+ ba with 25HR and some walks. The sort of bat that doesn’t grow on trees. The guy deserves a chance, before he’s too old to capitalize.
by GuyinNY on Oct 13, 2025 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Carlos Pena?
especially if Chi goes after Pujols?
by ScottAZ on Oct 13, 2025 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Thornburg
Peralta wasn’t the only brightspot. A lot to like about Thornburg.
by sheetskout on Oct 12, 2025 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
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by Franchise887 on Oct 12, 2025 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
Slim Pickings here.
Love Peralta, but I think he might end up in the pen. With Axford, he’s a little redundant, so I could honestly see him or Axford getting moved in the near future.
by wanderinredsfan on Oct 13, 2025 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
Jorge Lopez
Bradley/Jungmann weren’t the only great arms drafted this year to feed our trade partners…err…re-stock the most valuable commodity in the marketplace, pitching.
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by ILuvDaBush on Oct 13, 2025 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
Lopez is still very raw
Has great potential, but still a project.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 13, 2025 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah, totally blanked on him
I guess he would likely be the No. 6 guy in this system. Intriguing talent, but then again, aren’t they all when they’re from Puerto Rico?
by mrkupe on Oct 13, 2025 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Scooter Gennett
The little sparkplug that could…hit. Continues to defy the skeptics and put up a circa .300 average.
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by ILuvDaBush on Oct 13, 2025 12:36 AM EDT reply actions
Love this kid
Seems scrappy. AA should be interesting in 2012.
I’m most interested in the 2Bs…even though he cut down on his Ks, and almost all his other numbers stayed even in 2011 vs. 2010, his doubles were half of what they were the year before
by Domino427 on Oct 13, 2025 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
The system is far from a barren waste land, I think
they had a great draft and a few of their arms that were already there took a step forward. Rough estimate, but I think they’re around ~15-18 in the league. Maybe higher.
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by CaptainCanuck on Oct 13, 2025 1:38 AM EDT reply actions
not seeing that
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by doublestix on Oct 13, 2025 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya
it’s pretty barren. The draft helped, but still…
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 13, 2025 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
not a very good system, but decent in depth of "good not great" talent
I’m assuming the first 5 in some order are Peralta, Thornburg, Scarpetta, Bradley, and Jungmann. That’s really not bad at all . . .not a single truly premium type among the bunch at the moment, but five MLB-caliber arms sounds awfully good to me.
The real problem for this system is when you try to go to No. 6. I don’t have much of a clue who that would be. Fiers? Maybe, John loves the guy. Scooter? Hard time seeing that one. Hunter Morris is talented but did not have a very good year, ditto on the other kid, the one from Tennessee, Kentrail Davis?
This is definitely one of those systems where if you or anybody else has some sleepers to watch, I’m all ears. And I don’t mean “hit in A+ but he was 24” type of sleepers.
by mrkupe on Oct 13, 2025 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Morris had an ok year
Decent power numbers, but the drop in BBs was discouraging. IsoP has been consistent (~.190), BABIP has been below average so the BA could see an uptick towards .285-.290. He ought to be in the top 10, around 6 or 7.
by dbreer23 on Oct 13, 2025 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just not really sure what to think of him
He is a better raw talent than the numbers show, but he’s been remarkably inconsistent from year to year for a LONG time now.
Feels like Morris has been around forever. He was an unsigned 2nd rounder out of high school by the Red Sox.
by mrkupe on Oct 13, 2025 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The draft can only do so much
i.e. the post-’09 D-backs system. Bottom-third, maybe bottom-sixth system.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 13, 2025 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this group a lot more though
the DBacks ’09 draft was filled with long term projects, and a low upside guy in Pollock.
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by CaptainCanuck on Oct 15, 2025 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We're 19 comments in
and no Zelous Wheeler references??? As a group, we should be ashamed of ourselves! He’s 2-for-10 in the AFL.
by realitypolice on Oct 13, 2025 8:39 AM EDT reply actions
The Javelinas
Wanted to make sure I got his first name spelled right, so I took a quick trip to the Javelina’s roster page… they certainly wound up with a roster full of guys who don’t look the part! I hope at least once this month, Pedro Lopez roles out an infield of Gyorko-Gennett-Wheeler-Adams just to see if it disrupts the space-time continuum.
by realitypolice on Oct 13, 2025 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Any cooler names available at 1B?
Rest of the infield has suitable monikers, but I’m not sold on Adams….. :-P
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 13, 2025 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
Zelous is worth a mention.
can play anywhere on the field decently and has enough power/discipline/speed to be dangerous.
Don’t see why he can’t be a floater that plays for a while as a super utility type. There have certainly been guys with less offense that made a long career as utility guys in the Bigs
by ScottAZ on Oct 13, 2025 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The Brewers better take advantage of extra draft picks from Fielder leaving for FA
despite Bradley, Jungmann, and Lopez, if this team can’t get some more high-ceiling talents they might look similar to the Astros in the long run.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 13, 2025 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
worst part about this is that it could only be a 2nd rounder
If a lower tier team trades him such as the Cubs or Nats
all the while they can be dreaming about how nice Daniel Hudson would look in the middle of the rotation….
by backtocali on Oct 13, 2025 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
And how they wouldn't be still playing in the playoffs right now?...
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 13, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
From a numbers point of view
The Brewers would have made the playoffs without Fielder this year, especially if you replaced him with Hudson and a prospect. Not only that but they probably would still have had either Brett Lawrie, or the players involved in the Greinke trade if they had had Hudson in the rotation….’11 no Fielder, Hudson, plus prospect and much brighter future is much better than what they have right now…not to mention the additional $16 million on hand.
by backtocali on Oct 13, 2025 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
The thing about the brewers organization is that they are so focused on being a competetive team that they will ship away prospects for veteran players without remorse. They completely disregard the importance of high ceiling prospects and have too much pride to admit that they need to rebuild starting from the farm sysyem. Now although they did make it to the NLCS, their eagerness to ship away prospects may bring long stretches of mediocre seasons.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 13, 2025 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You sure about that?
Downgrade Fielder to Gamel and Greinke/Yuni to Hudson/Escobar, and that could very well have cost the team six wins. Or if you undo the Marcum deal instead of the Greinke deal (totally hypothetical…), who knows if a) Lawrie develops the same, or b) when the Brewers bother to call him up.
Even if they make the playoffs, I’d bet that that team most certainly does not topple Arizona in the first round - this is speculation, of course, b/c w/ Hudson in Milwaukee, who knows what happens with Edwin Jackson in Arizona… D-backs certainly don’t need Colby Rasmus with their outfield. Still, even if you just assume Arizona keeps Jackson, it’s not like Hudson had a good start in the playoffs.
That downgrade for Milwaukee and possibility of Arizona getting a better Game Two start could mean that Arizona takes it from Milwaukee and the Brewers don’t have a chance to make the World Series right now.
And an increased chance to make the World Series is plenty of reason to gut the farm. And, of course, you’re completely forgetting the two compensation picks (even if one is a second-rounder, they’ll get a very high comp round pick) that Milwaukee will receive for having Fielder depart in free agency. I really don’t think you can fault Melvin for making a run at the World Series. He did a darn good job of building this team for the window they had while Prince was around.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 13, 2025 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm pretty sure
You would replace Fielder with Hudson for production, and Hart swings over to 1B and Morgan/Cain take care of RF. You sign (as was rumored at the time) Carl Pavano, and your rotation consists of Gallardo, Wolf, Narveson, Hudson and Pavano. Your lineup is then Lucroy,Hart,Weeks,McGehee,Escobar,Braun,Gomez,Morgan/Cain…..and then you have prospects on hand like Lawrie, Odirizzi, perhaps Davan Viciedo….
The move Melvin made was foolish because he unloaded the farm system from a position of weakness not strength, and it was only for a one shot or northing year. He makes the move for Hudson, retains his prospects and has high quality players for 5 or 6 years, and an additional $20 or so million on hand. It was risky, and without a WS championship, was foolish.
by backtocali on Oct 13, 2025 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Prospects
Is he a Hudson Hawk or a Jose Capellan though? If we’re going to question any move in hindsight, it’s choosing to keep Corey Hart over Nelson Cruz. :)
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by ILuvDaBush on Oct 14, 2025 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Hudson Hawk?
Is that the one with Bruce Willis or the one with Dice?
by Matt0330 on Oct 14, 2025 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
re
Hudson Hawk = Willis
Ford Fairlane = Dice Man
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by ScottAZ on Oct 14, 2025 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ford freaking Fairlane
Exactly! Thanks for the clarification.
by Matt0330 on Oct 14, 2025 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree
1. The Brewers are making extra money from the postseason.
2. Brewers management showed their commitment to doing what it takes to support their players and to put a winning team on the field. Not something us fans always appreciate, but it clearly means a lot to the players who are there now, and certainly makes for a nice marketing story to sell to potential signings in free agency.
It’d be hard to see this team sniffing the playoffs this year without the contributions of Greinke and Marcum. A high price in the short-term (always hard to say how prospects will turn out, especially over the full course of 6 team-controlled years), but clearly the emphasis on putting a winner on the field impressed Braun and Weeks enough to get them to sign extensions outside of free agency. That alone probably saved this team an astonishing amount of money, unless of course either/both left in free agency at some point . . .which obviously sucks and is not in the organization’s best interests.
by mrkupe on Oct 14, 2025 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Well put
I agree with you in an overall sense. I doubt that Prince Fielder & Ryan Braun spent the offseason fretting the departure of Jake Odorizzi.
by Matt0330 on Oct 14, 2025 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
agree
you go for it when the situation presents itself.
teams that are in constant rebuilding mode or are always gearing towards 3-4 years down the road are not very attractive to potential free agents. A team that shows they are willing to do what it takes is.
Take the Fielder situation. Sure they will lose him, but if they win it all this year they are obviously that much more attractive to potential replacements then they would have been if they traded Fielder in the Spring and gone 80-82 this year.
by ScottAZ on Oct 14, 2025 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
But in the end, the Brewers are always going to be outbid for Free Agent services, and will those same FA’s be willing to come to Milwaukee when they are barely winning 70 games a year from 2013 on out?
I dont dispute the need to “go for it” occasionally, but not like the Brewers did this year from a position of weakness in the farm system.
My rationale is this….The Brewers won 96 and may make the WS with the following production:
Lucroy 1.9 WAR
Fielder 5.5
Weeks 3.7
McGehee 0.3
Betancourt 0.5
Braun 7.8
Morgan/Gomez 4.0/2.0
Hart 4.2
Greinke 3.9
Gallardo 3.1
Marcum 2.7
Wolf 1.4
Narveson 1.5
Total 42.5
If they did the Fielder trade as mentioned above and not traded for Marcum this would have happened:
Lucroy 1.9 WAR
Hart 4.2
Weeks 3.7
McGehee 0.3
Escobar 2.2
Braun 7.8
Gomez 2.0
Morgan/Cain 4.0/1.8
Hudson 4.9
Gallardo 3.1
Pavano 2.9
Wolf 1.4
Narveson 1.5
Total 41.7
And you still have Odirizzi, Lawrie (2.9 WAR in one month) and perhaps Davan Viceido as well. And the extra $26 million in cash on hand saved from not having to pay for Fielder, Greinke.
by backtocali on Oct 14, 2025 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand what you are saying
but I should probably clarify. I’m not saying the Brew Crew could get into a bidding war over a Pujols/Fielder type that will demand $20-30 mil per year. I’m thinking more along the lines if a Carlos Pena/Paul Konerko type wants a one year deal to re-establish himself as a free agent. If you are Carlos Pena and you’re options are the Brewers one year deal at $9 mil or San Diego at one year and $10 mil you are probably inclined to go with the Brewers if they win it all this year.
I think small markets suddenly much more desirable to freeagents if they win it all. Maybe not to the Pujols of the world, but certainly to the mid level guys and former stars looking to re-establish themselves
by ScottAZ on Oct 14, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus
I’m thinking we could fit him in….
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by ScottAZ on Oct 14, 2025 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
shit..........
after living my entire life in AZ you’d think I know that. Time too take SPAN101 all over again
by ScottAZ on Oct 14, 2025 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, the Nats are an "upper tier" team now
Their first round pick (#16) is not protected.
by d_c_guy on Oct 14, 2025 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts on Kentrail Davis??
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by Savoy on Oct 13, 2025 10:14 AM EDT reply actions
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Nah Guh Dooweh. Just don’t see any way he becomes a regular big league outfielder and his inability to play CF limits his (already limited) usefulness as a 4th outfielder.
Of course, I never got the love for him as a high schooler or a college player, so the lens through which I’m looking is definitely jaded.
by realitypolice on Oct 13, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Kentrail
His stock has obviously fallen but at one point it was clear to see why the scouts loved him:
As a freshman he hit 330/435/585 combining power, discipline, and above average speed and athleticism. Then that summer he played for Team USA batting 3rd and leading them in homers and walks.
His luster has faded, but at one point it was plain to see why he was highly regarded. He tore up college baseball’s top conference, was one of the main guys on Team USA, and mixied 4 above average tools (minus the arm)
by ScottAZ on Oct 13, 2025 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
what about guys like Logan Schafer, Erik Komatsu, Hunter Morris, maybe Tyler Cravey?
by jerzbravesboy24 on Oct 13, 2025 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
And also
Amaury Rivas with Jimmy Nelson in there too.
Hard to get a read on this system after the top 3 for me
by jerzbravesboy24 on Oct 13, 2025 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Although he wasn’t nearly as good at Harrisburg (.234/.298/.297 in 31 games) as he had been in Huntsville (.294/.393/.416 in 93 games).
by d_c_guy on Oct 14, 2025 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Giving it a go
1. Jungman
2. Bradley
3. Peralta
4. Scarpetta
5. Thornburg
6. Schafer
7. Gennett
8. Lopez
9. Rivas
10. Komatsu
11. Davis
12. Morris
13. Faris
14. Nelson
15. Richardson
Room for tons of criticism here but I’ll be the first to admit I don’t follow much of the central’s prospects compared to the East in the NL.
by jerzbravesboy24 on Oct 13, 2025 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
Peralta probably winds up as #1
After the season he had, Jungman’s ceiling isnt all that spectacular (#3) and if Bradley cant get his velocity back his wont be eitehr.
And although Thornburg probably ends up in the BP, Scarpetta had a pretty lackluster season and his end line remains as a bottom of the rotation starter on a lower division team.
by backtocali on Oct 13, 2025 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Komatsu
I believe Komatsu was part of the trade to bring in Hairston. I think Michael Fiers will be in the top 8 as well.
by Marc Newfield on Oct 13, 2025 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll counter with:
1. Bradley
2. Jungmann
3. Perlata
4. Thornburg
5. Gennett
6. Schafer
7. Scarpetta
8. Davis
9. Rivas
10. Fiers
11. Komatsu / Faris
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 13, 2025 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
His BA report gives some mixed views...
A small portion of the report:
“His proponents think he profiles nicely as a right fielder who swings the bat with authority from the right side of the plate and backs up his raw power with plus speed and arm strength. Others think he has a mature, maxed-out frame and does everything with a lot of effort, and that he’s a fringe to average runner.”
I’m optimistic, though…
by dbreer23 on Oct 14, 2025 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
D'Vontrey Richardson
I think he could really make some noise next year. Ex- FSU football player, and could be a long term solution in CF.
by Marc Newfield on Oct 13, 2025 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
Peralta Has To Be The Pre-Season #1
I just don’t see how you can rank Jungmann and Bradley ahead of Peralta until they throw a pro pitch. Peralta dominated triple-A. At this point we have no idea how Jungmann/Bradley would even handle triple-A pitching.
by sheetskout on Oct 14, 2025 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
Orlando Arcia
Orlando Arcia absolutely mashed in rookie-ball. Anyone have any news on him?
by sheetskout on Oct 14, 2025 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
Arcia....
This kid is ultra-young and hit with players a year or two ahead of him. He has baseball bloodlines and walked more than he struck out with an OPS of .845 at a premium position. I’m excited!
by sheetskout on Oct 14, 2025 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a pretty good organization.
I think they will be pretty good. They were probably happy that they got marcum as he had and excellent season. Although his playoffs have been forgetable, i bet there are some guys in this organization however wishing they were looking at Brett Lawrie in a Brewers jersey.
by Jt Malley on Oct 14, 2025 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
They wont have one imapact talent in the farm system though
Most likely wind up being a lower part of the league farm system when all is said and done.
by backtocali on Oct 14, 2025 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

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