8/27 Minor League Thread
by casejud
on Aug 27, 2025 6:48 PM EDT
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Okay, I guess there is more going on than Chris Carter's exploits but, he sure seems like the one too watch right now huh? in other news Brandon McCarthy goes in game 2 of a twin-bill for OKC- Justin Smoak plays there too, Rick Vandenhurk, Esmil Rogers, Carlos Carrasco take the hill in AAA
Phenom Jenry Mejia is about to toe the bump for Binghampton
Nick Hegadone, Wilmer Font, Randall Delgado are all scheduled to toss in A Ball games
Have fun posting and musing on whatever interests you guys and gals.
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Aaron Miller
Dodgers 2009 1st round Supplemental Pick from baylor
6 Innings 0 Hits 0 Walks 5 Ks
pitching in A ball with the great lake loons
by matthewmafa on Aug 27, 2025 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Black Deer
First of all, it’s racist.
Second of all, and more imporantly, he’s absolutely nothing like Rob Deer
by Galt on Aug 27, 2025 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No offense...
… but why the FUCK would that be racist?
You are either saying that I am racist- because racism is what is in that HEART of a person-
or that the nickname is inherintly racist- I guess i could see that
but would calling Josh Hamilton the “White Ranger” be racist. I guess i don’t exactly see why it is racist especially because it is done with love for the guy- Carter I mean. I agree that he a much better hitting talent than Rob Deer though interestingly enough there were/are some similarities
- Plus power or close, very good power lets say
- Lots of K’s
- The main one is that both were deceptively good athletes- much better than they are/were given credit for
Id say Carter is going to be a better hitter and Deer was a beter athlete- but Carter could turn out to be a decent LF I guess.
Anyways, I like the nickname but I’m willing to drop it too many people think its racist. Thoughts anybody? Intelligent ones?
by casejud on Aug 27, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Racist - Probably not
Terrible - Absolutely
by chri5 on Aug 27, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the "black" part
You are keying in on his race to differentiate him.
It would be like calling Youkilis “Jew third baseman”.
And the “racist” thing is really secondary. That’s not why you should drop it. The reason you should drop it is because it’s retarded. He’s absolutely nothing like Rob Deer. He’s got way more power than Deer, he strikes out less and walks more.
It’s just an idiotic name because it has no basis in comparison. He’s no more like Rob Deer as he is like Pete Incaviglia or Steve Balboni. But of course, their names aren’t fancy animal names. Why not call him the Black Foxx because he’s so much like Jimmy Foxx? Or the Coon Boone?
Since both players have about as much to do with Chris Carter as Rob Deer. But at least they create wacky naming schemes.
by Galt on Aug 27, 2025 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
So my original long response, one that undoubtedly would’ve gotten me banned, encouraged you to dive headfirst into a fully functional wood chipper.
While that particular intention of mine is still pretty much there, seriously man, that is NOT racism. That’s not even close to racism. REFERRING to race as an identifier is…simply identifying somebody by a physical characteristic. “Coon” and “Black” aren’t even remotely on the same level, and if you think they are, you are past the point of stupid. Way past.
And calling Youkilis a “Jew third baseman,” to me at least, has an implied stress on “Jew” that is meant to be disparaging. But simply saying “Youkilis is a Jew third baseman” isn’t racist. It’s true (except when he’s playing first).
Your other point, fine. Except I think a lot of people here are calling him “The Black Deer” in a some sort of ironic way precisely because he’s not like Rob Deer. Maybe I’m wrong there.
by thejd44 on Aug 27, 2025 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're taking it way too personally
The fact that you are explicitly using his race and his race alone to differentiate him is implicitly racist.
Why not call him “Tall Deer”, since he’s taller than Rob Deer? Or “Vegas Deer” since Chris Carter was born in Vegas and Rob Deer was born in California? or “Awkward Deer” since he’s a bad fielder? There are an infinite ways you can differentiate Chris Carter. You choose his race That’s what’s implicitly racist.
But that’s like 1% of my argument.
It just makes absolutely no sense to compare him to Rob Deer.
by Galt on Aug 27, 2025 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
racial does not equal racist
as someone who pretty consistently walks that line, there is a difference, and calling someone black because they are black does not carry near the connotation that calling someone jew because their blood is impure carries.
and the fact that the comparison does make absolutely no sense is part of what makes the nickname stick. it’s descriptive in a way that is not spelled out. it makes you think, it makes you remember. and for a guy who hasn’t yet stepped foot in a major league ballpark, that’s enough.
human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
by variablesdont on Aug 27, 2025 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is going to be using the nickname “black deer” in a year. Too stupid.
by chri5 on Aug 27, 2025 11:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Black Deer
honestly, i love it. best nickname in the minors, i hope it sticks.
i grew up loving the crew and still remember looking in awe at the sports illustrated cover of rob deer with the title “brewing up a storm” when they won the first 13 games of the season. i think they lost the next 13+ and had another banner year in the cellar. deer was sort of a cult figure at the time in wisconsin with his all or nothing approach. i have a hunch carter will turn out a better player, but the nickname is from these boards and i hope it grows.
by FRANCHISEv2 on Aug 28, 2025 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Best nickname in the minors” seems like some pretty faint praise.
by aCone419 on Aug 28, 2025 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best nickname in the minors is easily
“Jersey Lullaby” for Jason Knapp or “The Black Panther” for Desmond Jennings.
The best nickname for baseball overall is, undoubtedly, Chris “Father Nature” Davis.
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Aug 28, 2025 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Price= Baby Velociraptor Jesus
…and that is for sure best nick.
by daveh33 on Aug 28, 2025 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK OK OK
As a poster who referred to Mr. Carter a lot as “The Black Deer” I was really doing it out of a half joke to KBR comparison. Sure they have similarities, but evaluating Carter you might come up with guys like Derrek Lee, maybe Dale Murphy, Tim Salmon, etc. etc. Rob Deer had HUGE power but also HUGE crappy batting averages. He played his ass off though. Anways, “The Black Deer” was coined from Player To Be Named Later, and I ran with it. It’s not a bad nickname by any means, and is not racist. If my last name is Smith and someone said I played like black player who had animal last name, such as Fox or Rice. I would NOT care one bit to be called “The White Fox” or “The White Sidedish”, it’s meant for bulletin board Minor League Ball nickname, not like an “official” one. I hope this can clear some things up.
by ChalupaCabrera on Aug 28, 2025 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just because you can argue it’s not technically racist, doesn’t mean it’s a good thing to say. i think in most cases, unless it was a terrifically witty nickname, most people would rather not be identified by their historically discriminated race.
So my vote is it’s tasteless and not a good enough nickname to justify it
by son.of.sourman on Aug 28, 2025 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PC Police Strikes Again
Of course you realize that by implication, being called black is an insult to you which to me is pretty insulting.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 27, 2025 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Obi-Wan Kenobi says to Dewey Finn: "You were the chosen one!"
by Dewey Finn on Aug 28, 2025 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he never said being called black was an insult
He said being identified primarily by your race is an insult.
by ozzman99 on Aug 28, 2025 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incredible
It’s all just a running joke — why anybody would actually be offended is beyond me.
Simply amazing.
"Chicks dig the long ball, although fat chicks will settle for warning track power" - Nick Diamond
by hero66 on Aug 28, 2025 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
It comes across as extremely disingenuous, too, when someone plays the whole PC game when it’s completely unwarranted.
It boils down to someone feeling the need to feign compassion/concern, and they come across as a faggot.
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Aug 28, 2025 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The original comment was not bigoted
You, however, have managed to actually ensure that the thread DOES contain bigotry. Nice work.
Flagged.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2025 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we have a winner.
chris carter will henceforth be known as the coon boone.
i like it.
human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
by variablesdont on Aug 27, 2025 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 things
1) I agree that it is an awful nickname
2) I doubt he has “way more” power than Rob Deer. Deer had a mess of power.
3) Calling a black person black as a means of identification is not racist, in any meaningful sense of the word. However, you could make the case that it is rather gauche.
by aCone419 on Aug 27, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
its a pretty terrible nickname.
by daveh33 on Aug 27, 2025 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't
everyone STFU and talk baseball? Jump over to CNN and talk race…….this is a baseball site!
by GripDog on Aug 28, 2025 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't mention race
he said it was a terrible nickname.
by wobatus on Aug 28, 2025 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thx for putting words in my mouth/post
i hate cnn
by daveh33 on Aug 28, 2025 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"way more power than Deer"?
Wow. I love when people say shit like this. He hasn’t even played a single major league game and he has way more power than a guy that hit 33 homers in 134 games and 32 in 110 games? Over Deer’s career he averaged 32 homers per 162 games.
by nyy601 on Aug 27, 2025 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob Deer
I believe I was the one who initially came up with the comparison of Deer for Carter last season. I based this comparison at the time (2008) on:
1. Huge power
2. Huge K’s
3. Almost identical walk rate
That said, I hope the nickname sticks because while the comparison may be way off now, it is still a kick ass nickname.
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by King Billy Royal on Aug 28, 2025 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s an awesome name, and if anything shows how much he has improved and exceeded expectations. It’s just a joke.
I mean holy crap, how sensitive can you get?
"Chicks dig the long ball, although fat chicks will settle for warning track power" - Nick Diamond
by hero66 on Aug 28, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is acknowledging a person's race -- racist?
Wow.
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Aug 28, 2025 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1,000,000 points for Sealab reference.
Now why don’t you call her Debbie and call the other one White Debbie?
by PissedMick on Aug 28, 2025 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that it needs mentioned again and I see where you are coming from agreeing you shouldn’t describe people based primarily on their race but I don’t think I’d label it as racist necessarily. Definitely insensitive and rude, gauche was a good description, but I don’t think I’d say it is racist or anyone who uses it is racist necessarily.
by jfish26101 on Aug 28, 2025 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
saw Mejia tonight
Got in Mejia’s short outing tonight. Sat in the mid 90’s touching 98 MPH. Even hit a 97 pitching out of the stretch, which he was 90% of the night. Pitch a good 1st inning and K’d a guy with a good curveball. Had an okay 2nd but fell apart for the rest of the game. He completely lost confidence in his changeup and curveball and threw a couple of crappy ones in the 3rd inning that were high and out of the zone. His command of his fastball disappeared and threw fastballs high out of the zone and lost his composure a few times out there. He may have opened up his deliverly too early, maybe from the time off. He threw nothing but fastball once there was two runners on in the 3rd until the end of his start. Maybe I see why they compare him to Edwin Jackson, tonight this was the Rays version on Jackson, not the Tigers version. He needs another year in AA to get his secondary stuff together.
by Bravesin07 on Aug 27, 2025 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how he looked when I saw the line. Everyone jumped on his wagon so fast, still has the potential to be what everyone was sure he would be but definitely struggling. Was far too small of a sample size to throw him in the top 10-20.
by jfish26101 on Aug 28, 2025 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro Alvarez
with two homers tonight.
by joegonzo on Aug 27, 2025 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
?
Do you have a reason to be here?
by jfish26101 on Aug 28, 2025 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So to ask you to be civil and stop trolling, I must be your mother? I never got the impression you were such an asshole from our interactions in ISBL and WLSB.
by jfish26101 on Aug 28, 2025 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just trying to be funny, man (re:, the Black Deer controversy up the page). And then I was trying to defuse your comment with some humor, and to argue a point. It’s a message board, dude, not holy scripture. I think it’s ok to be irrelevant sometimes. Definitely not anything to get worked up about.
by gogotabata on Aug 28, 2025 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
I’m not worked up but I find the constant and unnecessary sarcasm/arguing on this site to really take away from the discussion. Even a heated debate is fine but, unfortunately, all we get anymore is arguing with sarcasm thrown in and eventually personal insults. There is a place for humor and even a certain kind of humor here on this board but I just get the feeling your idea of humor (or at least the posts I’ve seen lately) isn’t furthering the discussions but taking away from them.
Feel free to continue but I think you could use a little more discretion when deciding whether to be sarcastic or not. Sorry.
by jfish26101 on Aug 28, 2025 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wah.
sarcasm is its own reason and reward.
by PissedMick on Aug 28, 2025 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just want to mention...
he’s only had 4ks in his last 39 PAs. And he’s at 23% in AA, which isn’t too bad.
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by beastball on Aug 28, 2025 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
delgado
another nice outing, but short: 3 innings, 1 run, 5 Ks, 1 BB. why just 3 innings? injury? limiting innings at the end of the season?
by scooter on Aug 27, 2025 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grant Desme - Cal league superstar
His injury history is substantial and he’s got some steps to take before being considered a top prospect but man has he taken to the California league this year.
With 2HR in his first 2 AB’s tonight he now has 20 HR in 60 games played at A+ to go along with 16 SB’s from a CF with an above average arm. His biggest problem is his K-rate but it has been steadily going down and now sits at 28% to go with a 12% BB rate. 28% K rate is still a bit concerning but considering it was around 35% a month ago it’s nice to see him moving in the right direction.
Definitely a guy who should be fun to watch in the AFL.
by DiegoAsFan on Aug 27, 2025 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is going to be insteresting to see what he does in midland next season. Hopefully enough to earn a trip to sacramento mid-year.
by chri5 on Aug 27, 2025 11:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Desme is 30-30 overall on the season now. Well, 30-40 technically. But that isn’t actually a “thing”.
by StickRat on Aug 28, 2025 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think he's gonna do much at higher levels
His swing is pretty gross.
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Aug 28, 2025 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gross all the way to a 1.000+ OPS
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Aug 28, 2025 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Rangers
Guillermo Moscoso: 5.0IP 1H 0R 0BB 6K
Justin Smoak: 0-2 2BB in game 1. 0-3 2K HBP in game 2.
Max Ramirez: 1-1 2BB
Brandon McCarthy: 6.0IP 2H 0R 3BB 7K
Michael Kirkman: 5.0IP 7H 4R 4ER 2BB 3K 0HR
Wilmer Font: 4.0IP 5H 4R 4ER 2BB 6K 0HR
Vin DiFazio" 2-5 2RBI 2R
Robbie Ross: 6.0IP 4H 2R 1ER 1BB 5K 1HR, GO/FO: 12-1
Miguel Velazquez: 1-4 RBI 2K
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2025 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso is a pretty underrated guy methinks
Do you think he’ll get a chance to start with Texas, or is he destined for the pen?
by aCone419 on Aug 28, 2025 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
big night for Wil Myers so far!!
2-3 with a triple, home run, and a walk!!
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Aug 27, 2025 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did he get promoted?
i checked burlington’s box
by daveh33 on Aug 27, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
longer season
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Aug 28, 2025 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish the Rays had taken him over LeVon
…damnit. i really like his bat
by daveh33 on Aug 28, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chisenhall
2-3 2 HR, SO, BB.
….he’s gonna hit. feels like i over-rated him a tad on my list, but everyone else seems to be under-rating him
by daveh33 on Aug 27, 2025 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no. he's the best 3B prospect in baseball. better than alvarez, better than moosetacos.
human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
by variablesdont on Aug 28, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He isn't better than Alvarez
but I agree on Moose
by nyy601 on Aug 28, 2025 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pedro
isn’t it a bit presumptuous to assume he won’t be a 3b for the first 5 years or so of his career? wasn’t there similar “doubts” about longoria’s ability to man 3b as well when he was coming up?
as far as pedro’s bat, this guy is elite. where are all the haters at?
by FRANCHISEv2 on Aug 28, 2025 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Longo
pretty sure the question with him was his bat.
by daveh33 on Aug 28, 2025 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
checking BA
and they did think longoria’s was solid at 3B. I thought though I had read somewhere that people thought his D at 3d was a mixed bag. I’m not trying to flame the thought or anything, it’s just i have not read where alvarez D is horrible like braun’s. i think the weight thing got over blown too in spring training, all of the recent picks i have seen of him he looks fine.
by FRANCHISEv2 on Aug 28, 2025 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro is FINE at 3B.
You don’t have to be a top 5 defensive player at a position to stay there.
by PissedMick on Aug 28, 2025 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I have a hard time saying Chisenhall is better than Alvarez. I think Alvarez has a better bat and feel the feeling that he can’t play 3B is more to do with the fans over blowing nearly everything they hear that is positive/negative about prospects than actual concerns for the Pirates.
by jfish26101 on Aug 28, 2025 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dom brown
0-7, K. ouch
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
by gore51 on Aug 28, 2025 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lars anderson
3-5, 1 HR, 0 K
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
by gore51 on Aug 28, 2025 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he back?
Is the Lars from last year back now?
by SoxRock58 on Aug 28, 2025 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has been heating up
Havent mentioned it b/c I didnt want to jinx him… Lost season either way. Word is the Sox had him penciled in for the 2010 1B job before this season. Boom, not anymore.
by alskor on Aug 28, 2025 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny Banuelos
2 IP, 1 H, 5 K…. he’s been pitching 2 inning stints for a while now. guess its just resting his arm since he’s only 18….
speaking of young Yankees arms, anyone know why Vizcaino hasn’t pitched in a while?
by daveh33 on Aug 28, 2025 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Back injury
no word on when he’s supposed to return.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com
by lemonjello on Aug 28, 2025 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers 8/28
Justin Smoak: 2-4 HR 2RBI
Max Ramirez: 0-2 BB K
Blake Beavan: 7.0IP 5H 0ER 1BB 4K
Carlos Pimentel: 3.0IP 4H 1R 1ER 1BB 3K 1HR
Leonel De Los Santos: 2-4 RBI
Miguel Velazquez: 2-2 HR 2BB 4R
Matt Thompson: 5.0IP 4H 1R 1ER 0BB 5K 1HR
Engel Beltre: 1-3 3B SB in AZL rehab.
Tim Smith: 2-3 2B HR in AZL rehab
Tomas Telis: 2-4 RBI
Edwin Garcia: 2-3 2B
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 29, 2025 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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