Tribe Hurlers -- Rondon & Carrasco

by SaltyF on Aug 1, 2025 3:14 PM EDT Comment 9 comments

As most of you probably know, the Indians acquired 22 year old RHP Carlos Carrasco from the Phillies in the Cliff Lee deal. Jason Knapp was the main piece, but he is a story for another post.

Carrasco always had the stuff, but was prone to big innings. His numbers (the ones that matter) are great. 118 K's and 39 BB in 120 IP. 1.13 GO/AO. What are you thoughts on Carrasco? Do you think he'll be able to put it all together?

One thought I had, was that Carrasco will form a powerful tandem with fellow Venezuelan Hector Rondon, a 21 year old right hander also at AAA. Rondon's numbers have been fantastic this season, he has 97 K's and only 20 BB's in 95 IP. Earlier this season, the Indians front office toyed with the idea of converting Rondon to a reliever, but then withdrew from that notion and reinstalled Rondon into the rotation. Do you like Rondon more than Carrasco? Do you think having players right now on the same team, from such similar cirucmstances, can potentially feed off each other and compete for a rotation spot?

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Carrasco and Rondon

I’ve always liked Carrasco. Love his stuff. Love his numbers. However, it seems the consensus is that he’ll only become a fourth starter or bullpen arm. I don’t understand why people feel this way, but that’s what I’ve heard this season.

I don’t too much about Rondon myself, but I am quite sure the consensus believes Rondon is a better prospect than Carrasco - easy top fifty, right? Someone else will have to fill me in though.

by byronlhsdrmr on Aug 1, 2025 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Carrasco

I think people believe he has #1-#2 stuff but not the control or consistency to justify more than a back end starter with occasional glimpses of brilliance.

by Ion293 on Aug 1, 2025 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think its more like 2-3 stuff

He doesnt have Ace kind of stuff… very good stuff and, as you say, he doesnt pitch up to it.

by alskor on Aug 1, 2025 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think rondon is better

carrasco ERA = 5.25
rondon ERA = 2.75

Fuck the haters!

by bigdickwillie on Aug 2, 2025 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

actually its not even close. rondon is way better. cleveland shouldnt have traded lee for someone with a 5 era in the minors. that just plain sucks. his era would probably be like 8 in the majors leagues

Fuck the haters!

by bigdickwillie on Aug 2, 2025 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs