Jose Canseco, Future HOFer?

by Dewey Finn on Jul 31, 2025 12:47 PM EDT Comment 28 comments

Before the Dewey Finn Hate Club makes their presence known, hear me out for a moment. I am not referring to Jose Canseco's induction into the Hall of Fame based on his performance as a player. Its public knowledge that he used PEDs and that his stats are completely tainted from beginning to end.

However, the case that I am trying to make is that, beleive it or not, Jose Canseco has done A LOT for the game of baseball during this decade. It is because he blew the whistle on the MLB and its players for PED use that there is actions being taken to clean up the game today. Obviously Canseco did not have noble intentions by blowing the whistle, he was merely trying to make some cash for his book and appearances. Nonetheless, his decision to speak out has directly resulted in efforts to clean up baseball and move past the 'Steroid Era'.

Honestly, I dont see Jose Canseco getting in the Hall of Fame anytime soon. Well, at least not while Bud Selig is in office, or while Canseco is alive. Down the road though, it is something that might be considered, or should be considered. Yes Canseco is a jerk, a cheater, an opportunist, bla bla bla. He is also the main reason why the game of baseball will be clean.

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-1 for the Dewey Finn Hate Club

dewey i dont hate you at all in fact i like you as a person and fantasy baseball player. also you are a good LM of our league. please dont mistake my previous post for hate at all…..but if you want me to get on board w/ statements of knapp=halladay clone, cahill> webb? or that canseco should go into the HOF based on blowing the wistle on PEDS and not preformance its jsut not gonna happen…sorry

by cubsfan1 on Jul 31, 2025 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

just*

im a bad at typing hahaha

by cubsfan1 on Jul 31, 2025 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JOSE CANSECO IS A TRUE AMERICAN HERO!!!

What? He was born in Cuba?

Nevermind.

by samjjones on Jul 31, 2025 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Separate Sections

I’ve always liked having this separate section of the HoF for people who contributed greatly to the game in one way or another.

Examples off the top of my head:
- someone who creates/masters an new pitch (Splitter of the 70’s 80’s)
- People involved in historic plays (WS winning walk-off homer, Mays catch, Perfect game in WS
- People who greatly added to the story of baseball (someone like Canseco, players like Curt Flood who lead to free agency, etc etc)

Now this separate section wouldnt have the same pomp and circumstance as a regular induction, but would acknowledge the history of the game.

by benzalman on Jul 31, 2025 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jul 31, 2025 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

like it or not

Jose Canseco has made a positive contribution to baseball.

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jul 31, 2025 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm not willing to give him that much credit

When he was really making a positive contribution to Jose Canseco.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ya

I won’t dispute that. Jose was looking out for Jose. However, it benefited the game by doing so.

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jul 31, 2025 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Jose wasn't so obvious in looking out for Jose

It could have done a lot more for the game. As it was, he made himself pretty hard to take seriously.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

IT turns out he was one of the more truthful guys in the game

Go figure

by Mets2k9 on Jul 31, 2025 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not making it.

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by 306008 on Jul 31, 2025 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There's a hall of fame museum, you know

If you think a guy is important to the history of the game, but hasn’t earned his way to the hall as a player, there’s a place for that. Maris and McGwire are all over the hall museum.

by aap212 on Jul 31, 2025 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So is Rose

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will never happen

baseball establishment is up its own ass like that. But I hear your point

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by harendaman365 on Jul 31, 2025 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Caminitti

If thats all you require for induction then we should really be talking about Ken Caminitti. He came out and said that 75% of the league was on steroids a couple of years before Canseco ever said anything. Only difference is Caminitti wasn’t doing it for money.

by JFP on Jul 31, 2025 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Canseco did do it for the money...

But his voice also made a MUCH LARGER impact on baseball than Caminiti’s.

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jul 31, 2025 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

..because he was doing it for money

You know, writing a book, etc.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Basically I'm saying that Canseco's wider audience

Is do to self-promotion.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jose Canseco vs. Marvin Miller and Curt Flood

The smartest thing that Jim Bouton has ever said:

How did these people vote, and why are their votes kept secret? And why aren’t there more players on that committee? Hank Aaron, Jim Bunning, Bob Gibson, Fergie Jenkins—they’re all on the committee for reviewing the managers and umpires. Essentially, the decision for putting a union leader in the Hall of Fame was handed over to a bunch of executives and former executives. Marvin Miller kicked their butts and took power away from the baseball establishment—do you really think those people are going to vote him in? It’s a joke… I blame the players. It’s their Hall of Fame; it’s their balls and bats that make the hall what it is. Where are the public outcries from Joe Morgan or Reggie Jackson, who was a player rep? Why don’t these guys see that some of their own get on these committees? That’s the least they owe Marvin Miller. Do they think they became millionaires because of the owners’ generosity?

Those guys deserve to be in long before Jose Canseco, as both had a positive impact on the game that went beyond mere self-interest.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jose was the one person most responsible for introducing roids into the game

he championed there use, he taught others how to get the most out of them. He turned them from a fringe hit or miss proposition to a truly effective performance enhancer. He taught and helped people on how to inject them and were to get them. These steroid disciples of his spread this around all of baseball . This is according to Jose.

To honor him for helping clean up the mess he himself was most liable in creating seems to be iniquitous.

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by OmahaHi on Jul 31, 2025 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

by cubsfan1 on Jul 31, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He hasn't even helped to clean it up

He’s just named a bunch of names.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And people only really cared about it once he made it a big deal. There was no great public outcry about steroid use in baseball until Canseco wrote his book, and ESPN created this whole nonsense or “public outrage”.

by chri5 on Jul 31, 2025 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have to be kidding

There was no public outcry until BALCO. Canseco just rode the coattails.

by Fanon on Jul 31, 2025 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Canseco brought the issue to light before Balco

But nobody really believed him that much until after BALCO. Then he seemed prescient.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 1, 2025 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never in a million years

If Marvin Miller can’t make it into the Hall of Fame because some old-timers perceive that strengthening the union hurt the game, then I can’t imagine that the face of the biggest scandal of the past decade would get in on the basis of his whistleblowing “contributions.”

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by Brickhaus on Aug 1, 2025 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs