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Pablo Sandoval Crystal Ball

I've always wanted to do one of these so, I figured why not do one of the most interesting and unique players in the game right now. This is what I think the back of Sandoval's baseball card might look like many, many years from now....

 

                    AVG     G    AB      R     H   2B  3B  HR   RBI   BB   SO  SB CS   OBP  SLG

08   SFG   .345    41   145    24    50    10   1      3    24      4     14     0    0    .357  .490

09   SFG   .305  152   633    82  194   34    4      9    76    32    78     6    3    .341  .415

10   SFG   .322  138   566    85  182   27    2    21    92    44    72     2    1    .373  .488

11   SFG   .296  144   594    88  176   33    3    16  113    36    88     5    0   . 335  .443

12   SFG   .332  155   647  108  215  44    1     22  105   40    66     3     3   .373   .501

13   SFG   .277  129   524    66  145  18    0     12    62    38    56     0     0   .326   .378

14   SFG   .300  146   597    76  179  36    2     18    82    37    57     3     0   .341   .457

15   SFG   .319  157   625  102  199  43    3     26  112    48    63    4     1    .366  .522

16   SFG   .275    77   258    33     71  14    0       7    44     16    33    0     0    .314  .411

17   SFG   .288  144   465    68  134  24    1     11    72     22    46    0     1    .321  .415

18   LAD   .311  134   447    55  139  26    1        5    64     18   38     1     0    .337  .407

19   LAD   .256  113   332    38    85  11     1       7    47     25   46      0     0   .307  .358

20   NYM  .303  116   238    28    72  16     0       4    24     11   28      0     0   .332  .420

 

Career: 6071 AB's, 1741 Hits, .287 AVG, 161 Homers

All-Star in 2010, 2012, 2015- Batting Tittle in 2012

A knee injury in 2016 robs him of already declining mobility and moves him back to role of part-time Catcher/ Pinch Hitter.

All in all a memorable and often spectacular career.

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I’ll be surprised if Sandoval ever catches after 2010, and in case of injury I see the possibility of his catching go down even more, part-time or no.

by Fanon on Apr 13, 2025 1:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't know why he wouldn't

A guy who can switch-hit and Catch is pretty usefull to just about anybody. Those who think he isn’t a decent Catcher are mistaken.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not that they don't think he's going to be a decent catcher

It’s that Buster Posey is expected to be fast tracked and could be possibly be the starting the Catcher by, as early as, opening day 2010.

by superk1ng on Apr 13, 2025 2:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure

Im aware of that, many people act like they moved Pablo off of the position when - as you say- its because of Posey and Molina and the fact that Sandoval is such a good, young hitter that they want to get in there playing.

This would have nothing to do with Sandoval plkaying some catcher later in his career and/ or with another team.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 2:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, it would

As Bill James says, players work on the things they want to specialize at, and their other skills decline. Someone who wants to stay at catcher would do best to spend a few seasons at it early in their career, lest those skills rust or go undeveloped. If you can think of a blocked catcher who spent several seasons mostly doing other things before going on to spend several seasons catching later in his career, well, I’d love to hear of him.

by Flynn Blake on Apr 13, 2025 3:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure

…and no, I cant think of one right off hand.

I have no way of knowing but I guess I assumed that the Giants wouldn’t let Pablo get away from Catching altogether and he might be able to go back to it in a reserve roll later- Im pretty certain there have been far worse backups than him. Its a good point though.

He can catch and throw a little though. At least right now anyways.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 3:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a fan

I see his lack of discipline catching up quick, and his lack of defense rendering him marginal.

A five or six year career of wildly fluctuating batting averages including a move to 1B within the next year and half/two years. He’s not a very good catcher and I dont think he can be anything other than a sub par option in the corner OF or at 3B. Put him at 1B and his bat is a major problem.

People see this guy as “unique and interesting.” I just see a guy who had a nice streak of luck and whose underlying skills arent all that great. He’s got a number of serious flaws and the only real strength he has is making solid contact with pitches out of the zone. That’s not a great mix for MLB success.

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 1:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree completely

A guy doesnt hit …

.350 with 20 Bombs, 38 Doubles, 90 runs, 96 RBI… the last 44 games of that in one of the toughest parks in the minors without some hitting skills. Thats besides his .345 and 20+ Rbi in the Bigs.

He is also a pretty good catcher and a decent 3b. Go ahead and judge him all you want on his body type. He doesn’t have any "serious flaws’, he can play.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jack of all trades, master of none

This is an age of specialists. To me “pretty good catcher” means someone you can throw in there every day and not worry about him, a second division starter at worst. I think Sandoval is a great guy to have off the bench and play three days a week at various positions and sub in/pinch-hit for two or three more, but I think he may be a bit miscast as a starter. Throw in the lack of discipline, something guys with quick bats can get away with for a few years but rarely more than that, and I don’t foresee a long career either. We will see, but I’d say he finishes at closer to half of the career totals you project for him.

by Flynn Blake on Apr 13, 2025 2:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It isnt rare

There are many, many sucessful ballplayers who dont walk a lot. Sure he could learn to work the count more but thats a challenge, not a real issue.

Regardless, Pablo is 22, has pop from both sides, is on a team DESPERATE for young hitting talent so your opinion is rather invalid. He is obviously NOT miscast as a starter - he has a big league job and a chance to roll with it. He isnt a utility guy either- hes a full-time 3b, not a bad one either. Sometimes I wonder if some of you guys have seen his minor league numbers or watched him play at all.

Yeah, we’ll see… you got that part right

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 3:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Invalid opinion?

Wow… for someone so fucking stupid, I don’t see why you continue to try to insult others. And sorry if you take offense to this, but I don’t care. You showed Flynn Blake a complete lack of respect, so in my mind, you deserve none yourself. If you could ever pull your head out of your ass long enough to contemplate other people’s theories and opinions, you would see that they have some valid points. But instead, you are just another internet asshole who thinks they are smarter than everyone else. You try to convince people of ideas that you have, but you are so uncouth, rude, and narrow-minded, I think you end up turning people who believe the same as you, to argue for the other side.

And if you paid attention, you countered your own argument. You said yourself that the Giants are in desperate need for young hitting talent. Ever think that is the reason Pablo is starting for them? A team that had a starting OF yesterday of Fred Lewis, Eugenio Velez, and Randy Winn? A team that had to use Benjie Molina in the clean-up spot most of last season and Fred Lewis as it’s 3-hitter on Sunday? Shit, I think Willie Bloomquist would be starting for them this year if he hadn’t of signed with the Royals. So just because Pablo Sandoval is starting 3B for them this season, doesn’t make him a starter on most clubs. Miguel Cairo started almost 100 games with the Yankees a few years back. Didn’t make him starter quality.

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by Boxkutter on Apr 13, 2025 4:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ever heard of Valium? You should take some.

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by haverecords on Apr 13, 2025 6:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Had to laugh at that one.

I really meant no offense to Flynn Blake - really man - i just meant that saying a kid who cqan really, really hit and just turned 22 is going to end up with 800 career hits is kind of uh, extremely pessimistic, to me anyways.

To me the major argument I really hear against Sandoval is people dont think he’ll be good because he has a potbelly. I kinda like him BECAUSE of that. He may not be the next Kirby Puckett but I remain optimistic that he’ll be p[retty darn good and, the next best thing.

Hey Box, not that it matters but you were the only one who was uncouth. Have at it though. I dont mind. Doesnt change the fact that Sandy can nrake a baseball and there aint a damn thing wrong with Fred Lewis. Shoot, Im kinda starting to like the Giants lineup a little bit.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 10:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Giants lineup

The problem with their lineup is that they have a lot of nice little role players and no core hitters. Even if Sandoval develops, they’re still a little short.

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 13, 2025 10:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He cant "really, really hit"

He really, really swings at everything and he had a stretch of 44 games where he got lucky and his complete lack of plate discipline didnt hurt him. It happens all the time. Mirage.

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

153 Games

he had a lucky stretch of 153 games, San Jose, Norwitch, and the Big Leagues. Happens all the time.

Oh and 50 games in winter ball, and 30 games of spring training, allmeaningless I know. Just lucking into stinging baseballs all over the yard.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So I suppose he's been lucky his whole career

His strikeout rate has been safely under 15% for most of his career, peaking in his one bad season of his pro career in 2006. His K% is 13.4% for his minor league career, and 11.3% in his short MLB stint.

If he was as wild a swinger as everyone says, without being productive, he would not be able to keep his strikeout rate so low, nor hit .304/.342/.445/.787 in the minors.

The thing is that his abilities are really unique. Carny Lansford, who has had a long career in the majors and been around for a while, said that the only major leaguer he has ever seen who had a similar ability to swing at bad pitches (but good for pitchers) is Vlad Guerrero. Not that he’ll be as good, but that gives you an indication that he’s not just any ordinary free-swinging hitter.

Francoeur is free swinging, but strikes out a lot, more than a good hitter would do, which is get it 15% or under. If Sandoval can continue his strikeout rate in the majors, he should not ever strike out more than 100 times in a season.

Next, if he takes bad cuts, then he should not be amassing hits, you should be making poor contact and have a horrible batting line. But he hit .304/.342/.445/.787 in the minors. You don’t do that if you are making bad contact.

As one commenter here has said before, I don’t care if he swings at everything, if he can hit over .300 while doing that. Sandoval has done that in the minors, he has done that in the upper minors, and he has done it so far in the majors. So perhaps he should be cut some slack for accomplishing all that so far.

The biggest problem I see is that he don’t take walks and we don’t know what position he will play at. But he certainly appears coachable, he just spent the whole winter taking extra ground balls from a coach at 3B, and often with baseball players (or any athletes) that’s the first big step, being willing to change and learn.

Sure, caveat the hell out of him, but to say that he won’t succeed period, as a hitter? Seems pretty extreme when he’s been doing it all the way up the minors and now the majors.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Apr 13, 2025 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I would argue he was able to get away with his flaws in the minors

and then got lucky in the majors, where he will be exposed. This is why he was never a higher profile prospect, too..

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?

How can you be sorry and not care at the same time?

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 10:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Casejud

While I wouldn’t have phrased it as fiercely as boxkutter did, I do agree with him that your forceful opinions win you no friends. You don’t need to say my opinions are “rather invalid” in order to make your points. You may think that, but is it necessary to say it? We’re not trying to score points here by ripping other people. I’ve noticed this about your posts; they have an arrogant tone that I find is frankly not backed up all that often for all of their bluster. To each his own, and frankly I don’t care what you do, but if your goal is to convince people of the validity of your opinions, then they’re best served with reason and calm, not arrogance and invective.

by Flynn Blake on Apr 13, 2025 11:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay

A) Already appologized… sorry if your feelings were hurt
B) Who gives a rats ass? If you knew me I would be able to tell you that you are full of it without either of us getting too upset about it
C) Im not the kind of person who doesnt want to be friends- Im friendly! :-)- but at the same time- who cares!? its just baseball opinion

D) It is roughly impossible to hit - even at a short stretch - in the Eastern League- playing half the time in Connecticut- at the age of 21 - unless you are good

It doesnt take much of a baseball scout to see that Sandoval is a pretty gifted hitter. I guess THATS where the arrogance came in. i get that way when something is OBVIOUS.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 12:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Response to D)

It’s tough to hit in the Eastern League as a 21 year old, no doubt. That said, and this is coming from a huge Sandoval fan, the defense issue is huge. Sandoval is supposed to be pretty bad at third, and doesn’t sound like he’s got the mobility to improve much at the position. He’d be great as catcher if his defense would let him stay there, but he’s blocked by Molina and Posey; the Giants might have done well to trade Molina in the offseason, considering his contract is pretty reasonable and they could have gotten something in return.

As it is, Sandoval is a sub-par defensive third baseman whose catching skills are getting rusty as we speak. If he has to move to first, he reminds me a lot of another player who hit very, very well in the Eastern League at a young age but doesn’t fit very well on a major league roster: Lastings Milledge. Guys who play a premium position and hit pretty well but don’t hit well enough to justify the offensively demanding positions they seem destined for.

by Fanon on Apr 13, 2025 3:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the jury is still out on Lastings

He had a pretty good 2nd half last year even if he’s not really suited for CF.

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 13, 2025 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

I don’t doubt that he’s a pretty good hitter. I just think that he’s probably not a good bet to consistently hit well enough to justify a corner spot year after year. He’ll have some years that are good enough, and some that are more fitting of a center fielder. As a corner guy, Lastings at his best looks like an average at best starter. Similarly, Sandoval at his best looks like a pretty average first baseman. And this is assuming that both of them are pretty good defensively at their stated positions.

by Fanon on Apr 13, 2025 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

When he was on the Mets I thought he’d be forced to a corner because of Beltran, and I really liked when he got traded because I didn’t think he’d ever hit enough to justify a corner. Now we see the same things on the Nationals but the issue isn’t that he’s blocked, it’s that he’s just not very good in center.

I wish Lastings all the best, but I really think he’s more of a fourth outfielder.

by Fanon on Apr 13, 2025 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, they do

That happens in 44 games. Luck happens over 44 games.

You want to argue he’s somewhat passable defensively at those spots now? Fine, but i disagree. What’s he going to be like in a couple years?

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK

Duely noted…lol

I cant really argue that his 44 games wasnt luck. I guess we’ll have to see. It is pointless but I think his 40 games in the Eastern League was evenn more impressive. He has an aggressive appraoch… so what?

Why would Sandoval be WORSE at 3b in 2 years? Can anybody explain this? Because he is such a fat slob that he can only go down? He’ll be 24 in 2 years, not 37. Hes never going to be fast but he has all the reason in the world ( Riches!, Love of the game) to work and get better at 3b and he - sorry for the caps- smile on my face, I am calm- HE ALREADY ISNT BAD IF YOU’LL BOTHER TO WATCH. Hell, he isnt even slow.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 12:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think his quickness and defensive skill is often underestimated

Mostly, by people who have never seen him actually play baseball. The guy can get down the line pretty quickly and I was impressed with his skills behind the plate. At third he seems to have good hands and a nice arm, his range does seem to be lacking though.

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by icanplaythird on Apr 13, 2025 1:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you

There really isnt a lot of sense arguing with those who dont likehim but I have a hard time seeing why people would be so against a player who hit roughly .350 with 40 Doulbles, 23 Homers, and Played decently at 3 positions. Mostly I hear its his hacking ways but, my suspicion is its his BELLY.

Man, is there anybody out there who has experienced some predudice, loves the underdog, or just plain loves unique balplayers who doesnt LOVE this guy.

He’s the Venezuelan John Kruk!

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im definitely NOT rooting against the guy

He’s fun. I just think he’s getting a little too much love.

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 1:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too Much Love?

Exactly where is all this Sandoval love you refer to?

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by WayneCampbell08 on Apr 13, 2025 6:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I dont know...

this thread for one.

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeeah

And he’s starting in 63% of Yahoo leagues, which seems a little excessive considering that we’re mostly talking leagues where that means he should be, at a minimum, a top-15 player at one of his eligible positions. He’s being hyped pretty hard, and I think he’s inevitably going to disappoint.

by Fanon on Apr 14, 2025 1:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

His HANDS were certainly unique - or was it his feet? Feet and hands?

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey!

Where you been Man? Living your life or something? lol

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do, I do

Especially ones that hit.

I do think that in our (fantasy players, prospect elitists, etc.) search for ballplayers who can field and hit at a premium position, many of us forget how unique it is to find a guy who can put the bat on the ball solidly.

In San Fran that is needed, especially. That is a tough park to get base-hits.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third Base

If he is good enough to stick over at 3b in the Big Leagues he is almost certainly more than passable at 1B.

He was both good at throwing out guys and blocking the plate at Catcher last year.

He also can really, really HIT.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm confused

What’s the problem with Sandoval? He makes a ton of contact and does reasonable things with the ball once he does, hitting for solid and occasionally well-above average power. For a 22 year old who may be able to play a bit of catcher, that seems kind of nice. Is it so out of the question that he’ll be a poor man’s Vladimir Guerrero?

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by OldProspects on Apr 13, 2025 11:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vlad is a much more patient hitter

and Sandoval’s contact skills, while very good, arent in Vlad’s company.

I think his flaws are going to catch up with him quick and he gets exposed.

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 12:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I realize Vlad is far from a "patient hitter" mind you

but his pitch recognition and ability to take a walk is better than Sandoval’s.

by alskor on Apr 13, 2025 12:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, two things

First of all, Guerrero’s walk totals dramatically increased after his first year and a half in the majors. He had 61 walks in his first 948 ABs, which is significantly higher than Sandoval’s numbers in his first 144 ABs in the majors, but not that much higher than his minor league numbers. Guerrero also struck out 134 times in those ABs, which is actually a higher rate than Sandoval has been striking out so far, though Sandoval’s contact rate is not as high as Guerrero’s currently is.

Second, if the main argument is that Sandoval isn’t as good a hitter as Vladimir Guerrero, then I guess I’m still confused as to what the problem is.

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by OldProspects on Apr 13, 2025 3:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not exactly correct there

Almost nobody in the game swings at more pitches or is less inclined to walk than Vlad. He basically walks when he is forced to. This is NOT a criticism of Vlad either. He is one of my favorite players… Ichiro is the same way, terrific ballplayers who could care less about walking.

Your point remains the same. Sandoval wont make it. We’ll see.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

While on the optimistic side (as I am), it seems right.

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by haverecords on Apr 13, 2025 3:47 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and I mean that as a “very well done, thank you”

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by haverecords on Apr 13, 2025 3:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

I agree it is optimistic but, thats part of the fun of these things I think- you see a young ballplayer and dream of them doing exciting things. I dont think it is impossible either. I really think he gets sold short around here by some.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 10:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By no means am I selling Sandoval short

When I suggested he finishes closer to half his career totals than to the totals you suggest, let’s pretend we made a bet on that proposition (which you would gladly take, I am sure, considering the vehemence and bluster of your previous posts). That means that with the two key basic stat predictions that you made, 6071 AB and 1741 hits, I win if he finishes closer to half (3,035 AB and 870 hits) than to your prediction. Therefore, I win if Sandoval’s career totals are anywhere from 0 to 4,552 PA, and 0 to 1,305 hits. That is still quite a career at the high end, and considering how lack of conditioning and lack of discipline doom many of the best talents, I’d say I’m on the winning side of this bet at least 80% of the time.

by Flynn Blake on Apr 13, 2025 11:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, okay

Do me a favor though? Get over the vehemance and bluster. you have a little yourself and i dont mind at all :-) I LIKE a little of that in a conversation, thats all.

Also, there is no %80, or %35 or anything like that. There is only one reality and one Pablo Sandoval.

I’ll take you up on it though… no problem. I will say this though. I have integrity in these sort of things so Id be more inclined to say nobody REALLY wins unless he gets close to 800 hits or over 1600 - anywhere inbetween is sort of a wash.

Sounds like you really think he’ll be closer to my predicted total eh? Am I wrong?

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about...

Over 1500 I win and under 100 you win. that works for me. The cool part is one of gets to be right amny years from now when we probably wont even remember…lol. I actually WILL remember, thats the funny part.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Under 1000

Is what I meant FB

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 1:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No thanks

I don’t know why I’m arguing the parameters of an Internet bet made with someone I don’t know, but I made the statement I made, and I meant it. I’d be giving up a huge percentage, because I do think he’ll have a decent career. I just am not sure that Sandoval will be a marginal star-quality player.

This does remind me though of the time I bet a guy in Chicago, back in 1997, that Brooks Kieschnick would not have 100 home runs for his career. We made it $100, and when the discussion went on for a while I asked if he wanted to up it to $200, he said gladly. Then Kieschnick had his three home run game that season, and I thought maybe we were looking at the next Raffy Palmeiro. Then Kieschnick became a pitcher and part-time pinch hitter and finished with the grand total of 16 home runs. My acquaintance still owes me the $200, and I saw him last summer for the first time in years and reminded him of it. He’s no longer the swinging single guy he was back then but supporting a family, so peeling off two bills isn’t exactly as easy as it used to be. He says one day I’ll find something in my mailbox. We’ll see.

by Flynn Blake on Apr 13, 2025 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Problem

It wouldn’t have been for cashola anyways, most likely - just bragging rights. It may be nerdy but that is one of my main theories on here anyways… that we are all (most of us) engaged in projecting ballplayers to one degree or another on here and some of us are better than others.

It does sound like you see a decent chance of Pablo reaching 1500 Big League knocks, or at least reaching 1000 or else you would have took me up on it FB :-)

We’ll be watching, thats for sure.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't get it

People knock his body, but I haven’t heard anything about him eatting up everything, he just has a big round body. And you have to see his two slides to home last year, that will convince you that he is actually much more agile than most think.

People knock his free-swinging ways, but he doesn’t strike out that much and when he does swing, he gets a lot of hits. Isn’t that what you want hitters to do?

I like the projections but would say that his 2009 would be more like the following years than what is there now. Overall, I think it looks good, though I doubt if he lasts that long as a Giants, he’s going to go to the Dodgers next. He wouldn’t join the Dodgers unless it was the end of his career. I can see D-backs, though, then Dodgers to end it.

And your projection is probably a bit over optimistic, particularly the peaks, but I think his career will be closer to your projection than what Flynn said. I just don’t see how a hitter who can avoid strikeouts as well as he has, while making good contact, won’t have a decent major league career. Just because he appears fat doesn’t mean he doesn’t have some agility, his slides home were amazing last year.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Apr 13, 2025 2:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the Bright Side

Nobody will ever accuse him of taking steriods.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by WayneCampbell08 on Apr 13, 2025 7:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

No, probably not.

by casejud on Apr 13, 2025 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My guess is

Sandoval will be a journeyman guy who has some skills, but no one position to play where teams are going to be satisfied with the overall package - not enough power, not enough ability or aptitude to take a walk, teams catching up with him. For some reason, I also see him as aging quickly.

It seems odd some guys are actually high on this guy. He might be decent, but he is nothing special. He isn’t going to hit .330, he isn’t going drive in 100 runs and he probably won’t hit more than 15-20 home runs in one season.

With a fluke year, he can probably be one of those ‘I can’t believe they named him to an all-star team’ all-star or playing in Japan, Korea, Mexico or in the Dominican winter league.

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