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biggest movers + or -

by TCapone30 on Jun 1, 2025 2:24 PM EDT Comment 63 comments

Looking to get your opinions on the 5 biggers movers up or down since we did the community list. Doesn't have to be guys that were on the list, but could be fun to compare.

For guys that have seen stocks rise, I'll go with 2 guys I've been pushing since the start

Brett Lawrie (113 community list)

Sean West (147 community list)

I'll also give props to 2 guys who were not on many lists to start the season

Clayton Richard (although, he, like West, may not be a prospect at the end of the year.)

Brad Lincoln (anyone hear about how his stuff is, BTW)

The last guy who's stock is rising in a different catagory is Mike Stanton. This dude may be the best prospect in baseball at the end of the year. Desmond Jennings also falls in this category.

As for falling, Skipworth seems to be struggling, as well as Niese, Marte, Elbert and Ceda (injury?)

SO who are your top 5? Extra credit for guys who came out of nowhere.

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biggest movers to me

Stanton
Jennings
Dom Brown

Drabek
Rondon

by daveh33 on Jun 1, 2025 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jennings

Could be considered a top 10 at this point. The guy is fire!

by BigBadBossman on Jun 1, 2025 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

for sure

Dominic Brown is probably top 15 for me.

they’re of the same ilk. I think Brown has more power potential though. Jennings aka DEEZY has the wheelz.

by daveh33 on Jun 1, 2025 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Michael Taylor

is a big riser to me.

by wolviex18 on Jun 1, 2025 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

For me

among the names not mentioned:

rising:
Montero
Wallace
Villalona
Holland

Dropped:
Alvarez

by MightyMoose on Jun 1, 2025 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

why wallace?

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 1, 2025 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

For me

Wallace has outperformed some the other names above him on the list while doing it at higher levels, imo.

by MightyMoose on Jun 1, 2025 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess

but he hasn’t been THAT good. he was good (not great) on AA, mediocre at best so far in AAA. i wouldn’t move him from where he began the year, IMO.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 1, 2025 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

doesn’t he still have the massive plate discipline issues? 180 ABs, and 7 BBs. i mean, we have a 55 post pissing contest about chris davis, and davis is right now, what angel v can only hope to become.

human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

by variablesdont on Jun 1, 2025 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

variables

Stanton keeps getting menitoned with good reason, he’s cut down his k’s. Likewise, I think Villalona is pretty young to be judging on his k rate right now. I don’t disagree with you that there are contact issues right now, but you can’t argue an 18 year old kid batting over .300 with a .470 slg% in High A, imo.

by MightyMoose on Jun 1, 2025 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jun 1, 2025 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i can't buy in to stanton just yet

maybe it’s because i’ve been watching dominic brown and michael taylor, but i just do not see how stanton projects to be better than either of those two.

i’m not so much even saying that stanton is gonna shit the bed, i just am reluctant to crown him before he faces AA, AAA, or ML pitching.

as for villalona, it’s extremely hard for me to get excited about a 1B prospect whose power is okay, contact skills are questionable, and who seems wholly indifferent to drawing a walk. again, i’m not saying he’s gonna be shit, but i want to see more.

human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

by variablesdont on Jun 2, 2025 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That makes no sense considering Stanton is 2 years younger than Brown and in the same league

by jibs on Jun 2, 2025 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

right. and fernando martinez is a better prospect than david price for exactly the same reason

dominic brown is a better defender with more speed, and a more refined batting eye than stanton. all three of those are more projectable skills than stanton’s plate discipline or his contact hitting.

i don’t see what it hurts to stay behind on projecting stanton. there are legitimate question marks, and it’s not as if he’ll be in the major leagues two weeks from now. you’ve got time to wait on the answers to these questions.

human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

by variablesdont on Jun 2, 2025 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

F-Mart:Price Apples:Oranges

Stanton and Brown are nearly the same height/weight, and play the same position in the same league.

by jibs on Jun 2, 2025 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trends? Year-to-year, Low-A to High-A. No commentary.

2008:

Stanton BB%: 11.0
Brown BB%: 12.6

Stanton K%: 29.1
Brown K%: 14.2

2009:

Stanton BB%: 13.1
Brown BB%: 13.9

Stanton K%: 22.1
Brown K%: 17.1

by Jaeti on Jun 2, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i did notice that

but with his history, it’s gonna take him doing that in AA for me to be convinced. i mean, that’s all i’m saying; i want to see more.

human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

by variablesdont on Jun 2, 2025 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Strikeouts

There is a article on the front page of Baseball America saying how amazing and rare what Stanton is doing with his walks and strikeouts. I enjoyed it.

by rookie319s on Jun 1, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

With regard to trends…

by Jaeti on Jun 2, 2025 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure if massive is the right word. He doesn’t walk a lot, but his K rate isn’t too horrible… I think he’s just under 20% right now for the year, no? That’s not where you want it, but is that really so wretched for an 18 year old kid in high A ball?

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jun 1, 2025 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why Holland?

How much higher can he go? He made #40 in BA’s list, and was higher in the community list

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by OldProspects on Jun 1, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AnVil with an absolute bomb last night

Avg. is up to, I think, .313… HR #8 and his OPS is at .832. Not bad for an 18 year old in A+.

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jun 3, 2025 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rising

Jason Castro… over Smoak

by byronlhsdrmr on Jun 1, 2025 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 1, 2025 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just a word of warning about castro,

his offensive statistics are being compiled in a very hitter friendly ballpark in a very hitter friendly league.

human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

by variablesdont on Jun 1, 2025 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Elbert

How is his stock falling? He has been pretty damn good when he’s started. Most of his struggles have came when the Dodgers have used him as a reliever.

As a starter in AA: 7GS 36.1IP 1.98ERA 1.24WHIP 44K 14BB 3HR

The only negative is that he’s only averaging around 5 innings per start.

by jar75 on Jun 1, 2025 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Two Mets, Two Phillies

For the Phils, Taylor and Brown (Drabek, too, actually).

For the Mets, Fernando Martinez and Josh Thole.

by aap212 on Jun 1, 2025 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Vitters

I forget where the community list put him, but he’s got to be rising a bit. Jay Jackson has probably gone from off the boards to being on the board somewhere in the latter half of the top 100.

by toonsterwu on Jun 1, 2025 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

agree he’s made a case to be moved up too.

by MightyMoose on Jun 1, 2025 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Vitters and he is doing well but...

Should there be concern with only 5 walks and 177 at bats?

by rookie319s on Jun 1, 2025 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's been discussed a lot

amongst Cubs fans, amongst minor league fans. My 2 cents is that, I’m not worried … yet. I admit, it’s disconcerting to see, but this isn’t a guy that doesn’t have an understanding of the zone. By all accounts, while he’s aggressive, which no one denies, he isn’t a wild hacker, for lack of a better term right now. He doesn’t strike out much. Short of it is, the reports from Boise and this year suggest a player that is mauling pitching that just isn’t up to snuff yet.

I think, while Vitters has moved up now in rankings as of now, we’ll get a clearer picture of the quality of his talent when he kicks it up to another level, probably Daytona/FSL.

by toonsterwu on Jun 1, 2025 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From Players Currently On The List

I’ll add players currently off the list in a later post.

Feliz down, was at 9, probably now at 20 or so.
Alvarez down, was at 13 probably now in 20-30 range.
Hanson up, was at 23 (pre AFL), now easily top 5.
Angel Villalona up, overrated at the time on our list due to the SFG bias, now agrees with his spot at 25.
Max Ram down, overrated on list at 30 due to the Rangers bias, when I thought he should be around 75 at highest, now is there or lower.
Jarrod Parker up, was at 31 now top 15
Michael Stanton up, was at 33 now top 3.
Jesus Montero up, was at 34 now top 10.
Carlos Santana up, was at 39 now top 10
Fernando Martinez up, was at 40 now top 15 but soon to graduate
Logan Morrison down, was at 38 but now down due to injury
Freddie Freeman up, was at 46, I thought was underrated, now 20-30
Carlos Triunfel down, was at 51 but now down due to injury

Ugh, lots of work and I’m lazy, I’ll simplify this from here on, but I’ll answer any personal questions about my rankings.

Arietta Up
Main Down
Flores Down
Jennings WAY Up
Aumont Down
Salome Down
McGee Down
Martin Perez WAY Up, 15-30 range
Simmons overrated and down
Skipworth Down
Daryl Jones Way Up, 30-50 range
Ethan Martin WAY up, probably 30-40 now
Lawrie Way up, probably 50-60
Michael Taylor and Dominic Brown both top 30, Along with Drabek
Latos Way Up
Rondon Way Up.

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by cwhitman412 on Jun 1, 2025 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rondon???

I do not get why he is Way Up.. he is an improved prospect but is he even in top 100 consideration at this point.. a very good start to the season and 20/21 in AA is well obviously good but still a ton of questions in my book.
I guess from (at least for me personally) totaly off the radar to on the radar is a big jump but get impression you are thinking he is a top 100 guy.

by novaoakland on Jun 2, 2025 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

?

I’d say he’s definitely top 100.

by daveh33 on Jun 2, 2025 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really don't understand how he didn't make those lists coming into this year

But now especially, he’s a 21 year old with excellent stuff who has excelled at every level he’s seen. He strikes batters out, he has strong control - what, precisely, is the problem?

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by OldProspects on Jun 2, 2025 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Flores & Marte

I know they’ve struggled in the Sally League so far but keep in mind they’re 17.

Were they really expected to perform well right now?

Flores is holding his own against competition way older. I don’t think you can knock him down for his performance right now.

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by jimduquettesucked on Jun 1, 2025 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

just for fun

Guys people havent talked about yet…

to me just me but

Lars Anderson down
Corey Brown making the 150
Brandon Crawford making the 150
Tim Beckham moving up
Gordon Beckham way up
Adrian Cardenas up
Ben Revere up
Greg Halman down
Nick Weglarz Down
Daryl Jones up
Matt Dominguez down
Hank Conger up
Ethan Martin up
Andrew Lambo up (I didnt like him down as he was in the beginning)
and Last but not least
Tim Mehlville up

by rookie319s on Jun 1, 2025 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree With Most

Revere shouldn’t move much, same with Conger

by cwhitman412 on Jun 1, 2025 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heyward

up. now that Price and Wieters are in the Majors, Heyward’s probably going to be top-3 (if not #1).

i think Hanson’s in the Majors by July.

Medlen, had he stayed would be up.

Cody Johnson should be up.

i’m a braves fan, all i know really. however, Gordan Beckham is silly skilled and Desmond Jennings is rediculous.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 2, 2025 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The movement

….just started but I can see a nice leap by Ben hornbeck.

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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 1, 2025 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

trevor reckling

up, up, up!

by Bsneezy on Jun 1, 2025 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I know a dummy

that traded him for a bag of majic beans

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 1, 2025 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brad Holt

He has been lights out since his 1st start (awful).

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by Dewey Finn on Jun 1, 2025 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Snyder

22 in AA
.342/.418/.595
13 doubles 9hr 21runs 38rbi
20/36 BB/K ratio in 158AB
2 errors in 371 cances for a fielding % of .995

With all the trade rumors that are swarming around Huff there will be a position to play for next year, and he might even get the september callup.

Taking everything into consideration to go along with the fact that he wasn’t on the list so there’s no where to go but up. I think we have a winner, where do I get my prize.

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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 1, 2025 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and please let Lars

continue to drop, not excited about him and Youk on the corners in Boston

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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 1, 2025 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

Lars just has not looked good this year at all. Not sure if anyone saw the comment in KG’s latest chat, but one scout referred to Lars as “stiff and unathletic - the kind of guy that turns 40 when he is 26.” Just one guy’s opinion, but definitely not flattering at all.

On the plus side for Sox fans, Casey Kelly has looked tremendous. If Ethan Martin deserves to be in the top 40, then Kelly deserves to be at least that high as well. The kid has been outstanding thus far.

by guru4u on Jun 2, 2025 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

definitely more respect for...

Brandon Allen
Jaff Decker
Lonnie Chisenhall (hit his 9th HR tonight, batting .305 on the year)

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by Dewey Finn on Jun 2, 2025 1:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

definately more respect for

SP Evan Anundsen

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 2, 2025 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stuff Isn't Great

Probably in the 100-125 range.

by cwhitman412 on Jun 2, 2025 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Michael Saunders

I was his biggest fan in this site and is having a good season in AAA

by LCT on Jun 2, 2025 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My movers

The guys I have shooting up the charts include:
1. Desmond Jennings (Top 10)
2. Gordon Beckham (Top 15)
3. Jesus Montero (Top 15)
4. Kyle Drabek (Top 30)
5. Dee Gordon (Top 50)

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by King Billy Royal on Jun 2, 2025 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree overall, but...

I think it’s a little early to call Dee Gordon top 50. I definitely think he’s moved way up, but that can be true without making him top 50. At the very least, he needs to maintain this progress all year to be top 50, in my opinion.

by aap212 on Jun 2, 2025 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I was going where I expect them to be by the end of the year. Baseball America was recently quoted as saying his upside was similar to Jimmy Rollins!!!

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by King Billy Royal on Jun 2, 2025 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ryan Kalish is up

He’s clearly back from the hamate injury

by Ophidian on Jun 2, 2025 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kalish

He got off to a good start and is struggling a bit after the promotion. Hopefully, Kalish starts hitting again.

by rookie319s on Jun 2, 2025 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take sample size & adjustment period for 1000, Alex!

by Ophidian on Jun 3, 2025 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mazzaro is also up and starting tonight

Has this year proven last year was not just a fluke?

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by niallmack on Jun 2, 2025 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m curious where people think Brandon Crawford would rank… he has a really high K rate, but he’s holding his own in AA in his first year after killing it in A+, playing in a very tough park to hit in, and plays a premium position with a good glove.

Top 150?
Top 100?

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jun 2, 2025 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Since he is a power hitting SS

I think he deserves to be top 100. Probably in the 80-100 range.

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by Dewey Finn on Jun 2, 2025 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thomas Neal is raking in SJ. He’s hitting for good power and average and also taking walks. He still strikes out some and has limited OF range, but he is having a breakout campaign so far.

of course, I’m totally biased, though I’d like to see what other people think about him.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 2, 2025 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m totally biased. My interest in prospects is entirely based off of my love for the Giants. Neal is looking great and so is Kieschnick. For me, Neal came out of almost no, and Kieschnick was a guy who I liked but never expected too much from. I’m still waiting for Noonan to impress me.

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by shikantaza on Jun 2, 2025 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

neal was a person who I predicted to have a breakout year. physically people say he is just as imposing as villalona and has light tower power. He also can take a walk and is still only 20. With what he’s doing so far (.320 BA, .410 OBP, .962 OPS, 8 hrs) I think he can easily be justified as a top 100 pick and is possibly the Giants top OF prospect (over kieschnik and rafael rodriguez).

by zeisenbe on Jun 4, 2025 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Colby Rasmus

I thought he was possibly over rated but I live in STL and watch some of the Cards games. I think he may be able to to come close to living up to the hype. Next year he is off the list. Should be alot of guys graduating to the majors.

by rookie319s on Jun 2, 2025 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs