Prospect Retro: Ryan Theriot
Ryan Theriot was drafted in the third round in 2001, out of Louisiana State University. He was considered a strong defensive infielder with the ability to hit for a high average, though lack of power kept him out of the first two rounds. Assigned directly to the Florida State League (big jump from college ball,) he hit just .204/.341/.252 in 30 games for Daytona, obviously not impressive with the stick, though scouts remained very impressed with his glovework. I gave him a Grade B- in the 2002 book, noting the strong defense and thinking that he might develop some moderate power given his strong strike zone judgment.
Theriot went back a level for 2002, playing for Lansing in the Midwest League. He hit just .252/.335/.313. He showed good plate discipline, drew 59 walks, and strole 32 bases in 40 attempts, also continuing to show good defensive skills in the middle infield. But his power didn't develop, and scouts said he needed to get physically stronger. I gave him a Grade C in the '03 book.
2003 began at Lansing again, where he hit .259/.353/.318 with 21 steals in 58 games. Promoted to Double-A West Tennessee, he hit .236/.351/.270 in 53 games. Speed and defense remained assets, and he was getting on base at a decent clip, but the lack of pop remained a big issue. He remained a Grade C and a future utility player in my opinion at the time.
Theriot took a step back again in 2004, going back to Class A Daytona and hittign .273/.367/.342. Again, no power, but good plate discipline, and again he would rate a Grade C. By this time he was a 24 year old with a good glove, a nice BB/K/AB ratio, but no proven ability to hit advanced pitching.
Things began to change in 2005. Back in Double-A, he hit .304/.365/.391 with 24 steals, 45 walks, and just 38 strikeouts in 448 at-bats. He got into nine games with the Cubs, hitting just .154, but at least he made it to the Show. Given his age I would still rate him a Grade C, but with a chance to be a useful utility guy.
2006 was the big breakthrough. He hit .304/.367/.379 in 73 games for Triple-A Iowa, then a robust .328/.412/.522 in 53 games for the Cubs. The SLG with the Cubs was way out of context for his career, and may have created some unrealistic expectations. His .266/.326/.346 mark in 148 games for the Cubs last year was a lot more in line with expectation. He's at .321/.400/.384 this year.
All told, in his major league career Theriot is hitting .288/.357/.380 in 921 at-bats. This is somewhat better than you'd expect given his minor league performance, although even in the minors he showed good plate discipline and contact ability. Interestingly, if you told a scout in 2001 that Theriot would be a .288 hitter in the majors but without big power, he would probably not be surprised...that is what people thought he would be coming out of LSU.
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switch-hitting
Apparently, the Cubs tried to make a switch-hitter out of Theriot for years and years. In interviews, he never sounds too happy about that, and his offense improved when he stopped trying to switch hit (reportedly). I don’t have exact dates, but I know the radio guys here use that as one of their key points when doing the standard radio rant about the Cubs scouting/player development over the years.
by BobbyMac on Jun 19, 2025 1:17 PM EDT 0 recs
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Incredibly annoying player that I can’t help but admire. He’s like a good version of David Eckstein or maybe the modernized version of Walt Weiss. Works counts beautifully, great feel for knowing when to take the ball the other way.
Only limitation is that he doesn’t quite have the raw arm strength that you’d like out of a shortstop, but he’s so polished defensively that he ends up being a safe if unspectacular glove there.
Thanks for the retro.
by mrkupe on Jun 19, 2025 2:05 PM EDT 0 recs
warning- cubs fan
I like the fact we let him play, cubs fan hit him hard because he doesnt have enough power… but i see him as a great #2 hitter in the offense, he can also hit leadoff or 8th… I’m a fan.
"If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself?"
by Trobone on Jun 19, 2025 9:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Luis Castillo
So…. he’s the second coming of Luis Castillo?
by Lunkwill Fook on Jun 20, 2025 9:22 AM EDT 0 recs
Stolen bases
Last year, Theriot was 28-32 in stolen bases; this year he is 13-21. What accounts for the decline in success rate? Likely a decline is speed because Theriot is not the kind of player that suffers long-term mechanical flaws, I suppose. Unless this development is only a temporary lapse in base stealing effectiveness, any comparisons to the likes of Castillo are off the mark.
Theriot will have trouble holding a regular job, I suspect, but the combination of his work ethic, good plate discipline, and versatility in the field will guarantee him work for years to come.
by c60 on Jun 24, 2025 8:58 AM EDT 0 recs
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Theriot hasn’t lost any speed. He’s not an absolute burner and he’s been a little too aggressive this year - I don’t see it being a huge problem.
I think he sticks around for quite a while as a starter. He’s not great at SS but he’s passable, and he’s plus defensively at 2B. Offensively he hits for a solid average, draws a decent number of walks and works counts - lots of teams would love to have Theriot in their starting lineup. He’s a prototype No. 2 or 7 hitter who can be a quality contributor in the middle infield. Are there better players? Absolutely. Are you going to find a middle infielder with an above-average OBP on the market for anything close to what he’s making? Not likely.
by mrkupe on
Jun 24, 2025 2:13 PM EDT
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I think Theriot sticks around for a while. also, the Cubs ran a lot of hit and run during the first couple months of the season with Theriot on 1st, and at least a couple of his CSs I saw were on busted hit and runs. I think he’s 5 for his last 6 or something like that.
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Jun 28, 2025 1:53 PM EDT
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