Discussion Thread Number Two
by John Sickels on Jun 8, 2025 1:17 PM EDT
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Draft Day Discussion Thread, Part Two
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That one's gonna cost them a lotta money
by Outshined_One on Jun 8, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
first round money
But not like a top ten bonus . . .I think it’s very doable.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
this is genius
I’m guessing they’re going to take Austin Wilson in the 5th at this rate. Why not?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Risky
That’s an unprotected pick. Wonder why no one took him in the third when the pick was still protected?
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 8, 2025 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking the same.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 8, 2025 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Cole
to the Nats. Apparently it would be amazing if he signs.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 8, 2025 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
So if you had "2" on the over
until the Orioles started making stupid picks, congratulations.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
Yippee
A reliever. Way to let short term needs dictate your draft Dayton.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 8, 2025 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
BA rated him #81
Good pick.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 8, 2025 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Blair to the Indians
nice upside pick here
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
Surprised he fell so far
I really like him.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 8, 2025 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Sam Dyson to the Blue Jays
nice pick, I still find this a hilarious draft from Toronto’s perspective — I’m guessing their short-season team will have a LOT of signees on it.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
lotsa arms
They’ve done a solid job with all their picks, but what a buzzkill for people who were looking for $15 million.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not
They’ve used their picks to really build the pitching depth in the system. It’s a draft that will take a long time to play out, but it makes the system much more interesting than it used to be.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
A sack of wet mice...
…would’ve been more interesting than what they had compiled under the previous regime.
by royshowell on Jun 8, 2025 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, as I've said on previous threads, I think this is a solid draft
I just can’t remember the last time a team took.. what, 8 arms in a row? That’s all.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Only one guy can pitch at a time
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 8, 2025 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it's all hewing to slot?
Is this somewhat forgivable given the quantity of picks they’ve got here and given the dice rolls they’ve made on Adonis and Adeiny?
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewers get 1B Hunter Morris
I like that pick too. Best 1B on my board now is high school third baseman Kris Bryant.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Rays take Austin Wood
I like Grimm more, but this is a similar pick.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mariners take Paxton
he is going to have to sign right?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 8, 2025 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
probably
Just not sure what they’ve got in him at the moment. I think he was sitting 89-90 last we saw.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
A's take 3b Chad Lewis
Nice value pick
Moneyball what?!?! 3 HS hitters taken so far
by MagicMike23 on Jun 8, 2025 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
Red Sox financial leverage + front office superiority continues
they pop Cecchini in the 4th. Damn.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
absolutely crushing
The Red Sox have run utterly rampant this year. I’m not sure they have one guy other than Vitek who is signing for slot.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
...and the Yankees take HS SS Mason Williams
another nice pick for the Yanks. Damn.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
Mason Williams
Yankees going toolsier/upside more so than usual with williams/gumbs early.
thought they might pop austin wilson, they have the money to pay him
by ScottAZ on Jun 8, 2025 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
O's continue to lose their minds
Conner Narron?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
idk
Maybe they plan on offering him a big bonus to sign and that explains some of their earlier picks? Will be surprised if it gets done.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
doubtful for the O's
Narron loves UNC. Unless they throw a boat load of cash his way, I see him in Chapel Hill this summer, actually.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 9, 2025 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Royals with Jason Adam
Nice job by doublestix on calling that one.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
thank you good sir
Keith Law says it’ll take 1 million to sign him from Missouri.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 8, 2025 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Rays Round 5 targets
Kris Bryant, Justin Grimm, Jesse Hahn, A.J. Vanegas, Tony Thompson, Gauntlett Eldemire, Stefan Sabol and of course Austin Wilson.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 2:02 PM EDT reply actions
probably not
By this point, the odds of the preps going to college are much higher than the odds that they don’t go.
Notables: Kevin Gausman, Stefan Sabol, Austin Wilson.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's where the Jays "bank" comes into play
Ha-ha
by royshowell on Jun 8, 2025 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Rays Shadow Draft
RHP Jesse Hahn, Va Tech. He’s hurt, but too much upside to pass at this point.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
I have no idea who this Ian Kendall person is
and with signable college players on the board (Grimm, Hahn, Eldemire), I do not get it at all. First complete and total head-scratcher for me.
Another Oregon player, apparently.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ian Kendall attends my high school, funnily enough
He’s a good talent, I’m glad he went to the Rays. Good pitcher, has a good feel for three different pitches and throws them for strikes.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 8, 2025 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
He can reach 95 with his fastball. He’s a good talent.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 8, 2025 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
robertw
Roberts is a GREAT sleeper pick for the Twins. Massive power/speed production with a high walk rate.
by John Sickels on Jun 8, 2025 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
Are there any out-of-slot types still hanging around?
the oakland athletics: hittin' ain't easy
by walk off bunt on Jun 8, 2025 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Not that this is an original opinion
but it seems pretty clear Wilson isn’t going to seriously factor in here.
the oakland athletics: hittin' ain't easy
by walk off bunt on Jun 8, 2025 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be shocked if someone still made a run at him
by jar75 on Jun 8, 2025 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I don't doubt that
But I have to think if it were even a remote possibility, some team would have already bit.
the oakland athletics: hittin' ain't easy
by walk off bunt on Jun 8, 2025 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
There were a few $1M+ picks after the 6th round last year
by jar75 on Jun 8, 2025 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but on the order of the $2.5+ million it'll take to get Wilson done?
And if anything, I might be low there.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm definitely not saying he'll sign
But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cardinals made a serious offer.
by jar75 on Jun 8, 2025 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure they will
No reason not to. But one of the reasons why he fell so far is because he’s been very unclear as to what exactly it would take to get him away from Stanford. He’s acting like he really doesn’t want somebody to wave money in front of his face and make him have to choose.
Unbelievable Stanford class, though. Ragira and Kauppila are locks by this point. Vanegas and Wilson only slightly less so.
We need somebody to make a comprehensive list of all the guys who are going to be difficult-at-best signs from round 5-6 onwards.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Never know
He could be scaring teams off while having a side deal with another team already, waiting to pick him in the 7th round or so
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by Jgaztambide on Jun 8, 2025 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I do spose that's possible
the oakland athletics: hittin' ain't easy
by walk off bunt on Jun 8, 2025 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahn isn't an overslot guy
he’s a college junior (Va. Tech) who’s engaged an agent and is hurt. He’s got zero leverage now.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets took Greg Peavy
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2025 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
Hahn to the Rays in Rd. 6
since he was my shadow Rd. 5 pick, I’m happy with that.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
Rays take RHP/OF Michael Lorenzen in the 7th
as a centerfielder. Nice pick if you can sign him.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
is it me
or does “Blake Hasselbrock” sound like the secret identify of a Spider-Man villain?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Deshun Dixon, CF (10th rd to Rays)
High-school centerfielder with no college commit, has some nice tools, and apparently goes by the name “Mister Perfect” on myspace.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
And Rashun Dixon from Oakland
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 8, 2025 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mets are having one of the worst drafts
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2025 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
4 best drafts...
in my opinion are:
Nationals
Red Sox
Rays
Pirates
in no particular order except Washington is number 1.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 8, 2025 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
John should be happy
Twins take DeAndre Smelter in the 14th, have the money to make a run at him if they want.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
prediction
Not a chance in hell he signs . . .really wants to go to school, will probably cost significantly more than Wimmers
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I'd be surprised if he signs as well
But More money than Wimmers? C’Mon Now
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 8, 2025 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
how much do you think he wants?
I’m guessing it’s a very large figure.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
smelter
I went back and forth on it but ended up taking a (hopefully) signable JC pitcher from Oklahoma instead of Smelter. We’ll see if the real Twins can sign Smelter but I am doubtful
by John Sickels on Jun 8, 2025 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate what Baltimore is doing...
The Rays, Sox, and Jays are getting excellent value out of their picks. They’re drafting a good mix of safe talent and upside. They’re all selecting players that have dropped for signability reasons, and they all seem willing to spend a lot of money on getting most of these guys signed.
The Yankees are doing this as well, but to a lesser extent. They’ll make up for it in the Latin American market.
But I especially love what the Rays are doing. I’m envious as an Oriole fan…
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by Alex Eisenberg on Jun 8, 2025 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
I hear you
I was a lifelong Orioles fan, grew up in Catonsville, live in Monty County, work in downtown Baltimore — and I finally gave up on the O’s in favor of the Rays in 2007.
To be fair, this is a significantly better draft than any they’ve had in the past few years. They made the right choice at #1 (they usually do that), and then mostly non-stupid picks thereafter.
Mostly.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 8, 2025 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You gave up the Orioles?
For a team in their division after they got good?
by cowboy4eva on Jun 9, 2025 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor Sanchez, 3B, U. of San Diego
Any word on him? Has he been drafted yet? Injury?
Any thoughts that he goes back to USD to try and improve his stock for next year?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.
by Savoy on Jun 8, 2025 6:35 PM EDT reply actions
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