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Chance Ruffin
Anyone else see that K. Law thinks the Reds are ready to take him with the 12th pick? Seems like a big overdraft to me.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 5:59 PM EDT reply actions
wow
yeah that would be an overdraft in my view. Not impossible though.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
Ifs
What if Heyward and Stanton had decided to go to school, what would this draft look like then? Would Harper still be consensus #1?
by JFP on Jun 7, 2025 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
wow
Good question. Heyward would be hitting, what, .500 in college? lol
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
OF
It would probably go Heyward/Harper/Taillon/Machado/Stanton
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
-1
Pirates don’t like Harper so they would probably still have taken Taillon.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Prospect Junkies
They have reports on Wimmers, Vitek, Allie and Lamarre:
http://www.prospectjunkies.com/
www.oriolesprospects.com/Forums | www.TheMiLBNetwork.com
by ravensfan3 on Jun 7, 2025 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
go spend the $10 and get the topo 755 scouting reports in pdf from
andy at www.mlbbonusbaby.com
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 7, 2025 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
great stuff
It’s great stuff…Andy did outstanding work with this.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he undersold himself
this is one of the better predraft manuals I have ever read. 755 players and stats for the top 100
I hope he can be convinced to do this again…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 7, 2025 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
already have it
Just figured i’d put that out there for people…
www.oriolesprospects.com/Forums | www.TheMiLBNetwork.com
by ravensfan3 on Jun 7, 2025 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
no prob
you were just an easy plug….
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 7, 2025 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
John, who do you see the Twinkies taking...
Kvasnika seems to really be on their radar.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
pitcher
I still think they will go with a college pitcher. But the Twins can be unpredictable. Kvasnicka looks like a 2nd rounder to me.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Same, with regard to Kvasnika not being a 1st round talent.
I like the Twins, as I am a fan of the great state of Minnesota.
Hopefully it’s Wimmers.
Workman has some of the work mechanics I have ever seen, and I would be shocked if he stays healthy.
Honestly, he’ll probably just flame out in a few years like Adam Miller.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
workman
I saw Workman in March and his mechanics were a lot cleaner than in 2009. I don’t know if they have remained that way all spring.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
From March 6th this year
http://projectprospect.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6433
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
video
Is that the date on the video? That looks like what I saw of him in 2009
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe so.
It says ‘2010’ on the bottom, and Nick James posts when he saw the guy pitch.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You're obsessed with mechanics
hide the Pep Boys. You never did answer Adam in that thread, btw. What’s so ‘worst evar’ about Workman’s mechanics?
by blackoutyears on Jun 8, 2025 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Online?
Is the event online anywhere?
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by Jgaztambide on Jun 7, 2025 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
Am I wrong to hope Oakland DOESN'T take one of O'Conner or Colon?
I want Whitson or Choice, myself. DeShields is intriguing.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
O'Conner wouldn't be a bad pick
I don’t like Colon much at all though, especially since the A’s just took 2 MIs in a row.
by jar75 on Jun 7, 2025 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What is worth a top ten pick about O'Conner?
Everything I’ve seen says something like “I don’t think he can make good contact”. A no-contact catcher or SS doesn’t sound especially appealing. I like the power and arm though. I prefer O’Conner to Colon.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
top ten, slight overdraft perhaps
Big power, great athlete, really impressive raw defensive tools with an awesome arm. I’m usually skeptical of prep catchers being picked early, but O’Connor’s raw power and athleticism gives me hope. If he moved to 3B, he’d probably be a good defender there with nice pop.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
plus acne, too
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I could live with the acne if I was about to get that kind of money
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
do not like deshields
He’s similar to Ben Revere, but you really need to project to get his hitting for average tool anywhere near what Revere is showing.
Might gamble if I had multiple early picks, would not want him as a top 10 overall pick.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Revere is a slap hitter; Deshields could be a 15-20 HR guy eventually.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
you'd have to project even more to get him to that kind of power
Looks like a gap power guy to me. Maybe more glove than Revere, which is worth noting. But basically getting drafted on the wheels and bloodlines.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Still has much more power than Revere.
But could be a gap guy……..it’s hard to tell.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
But Revere is a very solid pure hitter, makes tons of contact, just doesn’t have much pop. Solid eye that is steadily improving. DeShields is really raw.
He’s not a bad prospect, but I’d hate popping that guy at 10. Toronto at 11 could probably work it because they have so many picks and he should be a relatively easy sign.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
There is an article I read which said DeShields hit homers in four consecutive games, with wood bats, in a national tournament at 17 years of age. He has very strong arms and a lot of upper body strength, so I think it’s reasonable to expect average power down the line.
by OremLK on Jun 7, 2025 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
read his forearms are super strong and he has quick wrists. I think being the son of a light hitting 2b is giving him this no hit stigma.
by npurcell on Jun 7, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and because he's short or something stupid like that.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's part of why I liked him
He’s short, but he’s not SMALL. He’s built like a running back…because he IS one. A super-speedy CF built like a running back that has some power sounds pretty good to me.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
DeShields, Gumbs, Landry, Clarke
Oh baby….given me summa dat.
Toolsy CFers who know how to swing a woody.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I just have Rickey hangover
Obviously I don’t think those guys will be Rickey, but the closer, the better.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll see
Not saying it couldn’t happen. Just saying that you have to project.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you have to project every HS player?
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
in some ways, obviously
You even have to do that with college players. But there are some things you don’t have to project, too.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Projection is an issue
with a guy who is 5’9" and by the body type doesn’t like like he’s going to grow vertically. Looks like all his projection is horizontal to me. Won’t say he won’t have pop but guys like this always remind me of Matt Lawton, which ain’t bad, but ain’t great either. I can’t help but think that J. Sale and Folty would have made a great top of the draft for HOU…
by blackoutyears on Jun 8, 2025 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying he's my top choice
Just an interesting player. I really like Whitson, but I keep hearing the A’s aren’t on HS pitchers. I really don’t like Colon, but maybe that’s because he’s basically got Mark Ellis as a ceiling.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, you're lower on Colon than I am on Dewey Cox.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
What is his ceiling? He’s a solid defender, but a slow middle infielder that may not have the range to stay at short and nothing special in terms of power or hitting ability. Sounds like Mark Ellis, which isn’t awful, but definitely isn’t what I’d want at 10.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The A's haven't had a top 10 pick since Zito
I’d hope we’d use it on a guy with a lot of upside, at least.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you guys take Whitson, although I doubt it.
Then again I hope you don’t, because A’s pitchers are always hurt.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they don't because I really want the Jays to take Whitson
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What's going on with Michael Taylor.
He’s not only shitting the bed, but he’s shitting the whole damn house.
He was in my top 25 going into the year, I believe.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been injured pretty much all season
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
whats the injury..
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Calf injury
He wasn’t doing all that great before it, but I expected a little bit of adjustment to the new surroundings first.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
grandal
Grandal-to-the-Royals looks like it has fallen through. He could drop like a rock….Red Sox? Cardinals?
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
There could be massive talent available at 20.
Wow.
And then, Cole and Castee could be there at 36.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I'm looking forward to the supplemental and 2nd rounds
theres going to be some REALLY GOOD guys going there
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
glad B-more
gave up their second pick for Gonzales to close all those victories out
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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 7, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Could see the Jays maybe being interested
If some of the other talent disappears. The cash wouldn’t be an issue if they like what they see.
by TtD on Jun 7, 2025 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
BA predicts Grandal will be the 3rd C chosen
and 25th overall http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2255
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by OldProspects on Jun 7, 2025 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
Chance Ruffin
Keith Law has suggested that the Reds are looking at him for the 12th pick . . .thoughts?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
ruffin
I think Ruffin is a supplemental or second round guy on talent.
But if they do a pre-draft deal anything can happen
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
like him
Maybe the Reds have just said enough is enough and they’re going with the safe bullpen guy. Perhaps they see him as a possible contributor for September?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If they are going to take him at 12 though wouldn’t you think they will convert him back to a starter?
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
great draft coverage so far on MLB
We just hit the point where A’s fans collectively lit themselves on fire.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Dammit I missed it
What happened? Let me guess…they mentioned us passing on Todd Helton for Ariel Prieto? On David Wright for John Rheinecker? Etc.?
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Van Popple instead of Chipper
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 7, 2025 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Frankie Piliere suggesting that the Royals are moving towards the "not Grandal or Sale" option
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Angelo Gumbs
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 7, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Please take Colon so he won't be there at 10
Thank you, Royals.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah right
Yeah, right….sure they wouldn’t take Harper.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
did you hear the laughter in the background?
They’ve definitely filled the studio compared to years past . . .normally, you could hear a pin drop in there.
This year, it would have to be a large pin.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to turn the sound on
Harold Reynold’s analysis is the last thing I want to hear.
by supermets on Jun 7, 2025 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
you're missing some hilarious stuff
including Machado over Harper
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, Harold Reynolds really needed to read the notes
Saying that Robbie Aviles could be taken today in the preshow was bad enough, but going on and on about how he thinks Harper is okay at 3B or OF, but that what makes him special is that he’s a catcher . . .
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
harper
Scott Boras is completely right about this. Move Harper to the outfield to spare his knees. Mauer is a once-in-50-years freak.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Wieters
According to Peter Gammons, is in fact, retarded.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 7, 2025 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, that was epic
Can we get this on Youtube?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
it was something like
“some people believe Weiters is retarded because he wasn’t allowed to call pitches in college”
by nyy601 on Jun 7, 2025 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t say that Matt Wieters is retarded, he said he “was retarded”, the word used as a verb; his development was retarded due to him never calling games in college.
by oplaid on Jun 7, 2025 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume they all know that but were just jokeing around.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
they called him as an outfielder
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
OF Bryce Harper
http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/
by TFelsmaier on Jun 7, 2025 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
Taillon
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
Taillon
I always get a little freaked by guys who are that big that young . . .I worry a lot about the coordination, being able to repeat mechanics (which is where I think a lot of injuries stem from) . . .anybody else?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:17 PM EDT reply actions
no not me, but you may be on to something there
Matt Hobgood will stilll turn out to be a solid Prospect and a good pitcher
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I have believe that the inability to repeat your delivery would put stress on different parts that are normally not used to it. But others would know better.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
by melonhead202 on Jun 7, 2025 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like the Mets are looking Cox
regardless of who is there
That would really piss me off as he looks like another Bill Mueller and the Mets have Wright at 3B and Havens/Tejada in the system at 2B. Instead there are a number of pitchers or higher upside bats who they could selected
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
Shocker there
good pick nontheless
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by Marinerfanjake on Jun 7, 2025 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
Anybody else notice that Harper and Machado
Are listed as the EXACT same height and weight that is kinda cool
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
random thing I didn't realize
Machado is only 3 months younger than Harper.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean older ???
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
NO WAY !?!?!?!?!?!!?
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mayo with the tweet
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 7, 2025 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
PLEASE
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
So far
so predictable. KC is the first selection with a whiff of mystery.
by blackoutyears on Jun 7, 2025 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Mayo tweeting that Colon going to KC.
If true, thanks KC!
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by lenscrafters on Jun 7, 2025 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
lolz
If true I will be rather shocked myself still not a horrible pick
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
that is a little extreme. not like sale is a lock to be amazing.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
don't get me wrong
Colon’s an okay player, maybe has a few strong seasons in him . . .but for the money he’ll cost here, they could have done better.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
obviously it isn’t going to be considered an amazing pick or anything, but the real question is specifically who else they were considering that they passed on. maybe they’ll lowball him and sign him cheap.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously
I don’t like Colon, but just about everyone will tell you that there’s so much variability after the top 3 picks. It’s not like they popped Dave Filak there or something
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they see Derek Jeter like potential in him
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This got a hell of a lot more interesting
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 7, 2025 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
watch the Mets still choking the pick with some slot guy
by viktor06 on Jun 7, 2025 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
Mayo tweeting
Pomeranz at 5, Loux at 6
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
wowzers
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Indians
Sale, Pomeranz, other????
http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/
by TFelsmaier on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
Drew Pomeranz it is, Power lefty to go with Hagadone Ooooooo
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
colon
I like Colon quite a bit personally, but this really scrambled the draft.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
feels like a pretty average 2B to me
Safe I guess.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
colon
All he has to do is be better than Yuniesky Betancourt, lol
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
yeah MLB.com says he has Polly Palanco like feel at the plate
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
idk
Somebody convince me on Colon. I think he’ll be okay . . .why is he going to be more than that?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it bad
When Colon gets compared to Polanco?
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing wrong with a career .300 hitter with plus defense
by smk1363 on Jun 7, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
if that was his floor, even with no ceiling, it would be fine. but of course, that isn’t his floor.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oddly
I would have thought the logical Polanco comp would be Zack Cox
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Way-out HOF comps … Colon - Ryne Sandburg, Cox - Wade Boggs
by StickRat on Jun 7, 2025 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
CLE - Pomeranz
…
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
by melonhead202 on Jun 7, 2025 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
The Pomeranz family has some pretty sick hair
look how smooth it is
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 7, 2025 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Vitters was the one with the jelly voice box, right?
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 7, 2025 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I just
Want to know what conditioner they use.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I want his Mel Kiper Jr. hair gell or conditioner , YES
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
How does
Pomeranz compare to Sowers projection-wise?
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
better fastball, less polish, less pitches, more hair volume
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Pomeranz has "less pitches"? Huh?!
Less pitches? Are you kidding, mrkupe? If not, I don’t see how - Pomeranz has a better fastball and a plus-plus curveball, plus a solid average changeup that could be above-average with more refinement.
Sowers, as mentioned, has less of a fastball (the velocities may be about the same depending on who you listen to, as Sowers was supposed to have around an 88-92 to 89-93 fastball when he was drafted out of Vanderbilt, but Pomeranz has considerably more movement, which is why it’s considered to be a plus, overpowering fastball, whereas Sowers’ never was).
Additionally, Sowers was never considered to have plus offspeed stuff of any type. He had essentially average offspeed stuff, possibly with the potential to be better, above-average, but that only describes Pomeranz’s changeup at most. The main difference is that Pomeranz has a plus-plus curveball - Sowers’ offspeed stuff wasn’t and isn’t even close to touching that pitch, thereby making your “less pitches” comment confusing and, in my opinion, incorrect - no offense.
As for the hair volume, I’ll take your word for it, since I haven’t actually seen Pomeranz’s hair up close. I have seen Bieber’s, however, especially when he rammed into that door a few weeks back, and if Pomeranz’s hair is anywhere close to that, that’s pretty impressive, maybe even a “plus” attribute. :-)
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on Jun 8, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I do agree with the command comment, though!
Hello again mrkupe,
Sowers was considered to be a control pltcher coming out of Vanderbilt, whereas Pomeranz isn’t considered a control pitcher, though some speculate that his rising BB/9 IP rate throughout the season was due to that strained pectoral muscle he had.
Still, Sowers does have a bit of an edge there, but arguably, I think the Indians have reversed their philosophy in acquiring pitchers over the past few years, first with their trades, and now with their drafting. They are looking to acquire more power arms and mold them into pitchers, whereas they used to look for pitchability and then have them be pinpoint with average stuff (like Sowers and even Huff, etc.). That’s not just Pomeranz this year, but guys like RHP Austin Adams (5th Rd. 2009 Draft) last year, not to mention guys they’ve acquired in trades (Knapp, Hagadone, Price, Masterson, etc.).
That’s not to say they’re just looking for flamethrowers who can’t hit the side of a barn standing right in front of them, but they’re starting to look more for stuff and velocity and not necessarily looking for guys with pinpoint control and marginal to average stuff.
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on Jun 8, 2025 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
holy crap
Shocking (but not unpleasant) to see you around. :)
Pomeranz does have fewer pitches. Sowers had four solid average pitches (curveball was better though) - the fact that he was able to command them all was one of the reasons why he happened to be a good prospect. But as far as effectiveness (or the grades, if you will) of their respective pitches . . .yeah, Pomeranz is clearly superior. Better fastball (like I said), and a better curveball when it’s on, although that the consistency of that pitch has been questioned at times. I’d take Pomeranz’s three pitches over Sowers’ four, as would just about everybody else, so don’t sweat it.
Hard to say on the walks . . .we’ll see, but I think you’d acknowledge that he did walk quite a few guys this year, and that it’s something to be watched. It’s a pretty enticing package from the left side if he’s healthy, and he is definitely not a “low upside” type of player if things work out. He’s not Sowers v. 2.0.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see you too! ;-)
Hello mrkupe,
Yes, it’s been a while - good to see you and everyone else too! I’ve been busy, but try to stay informed and drop by when I can. :-)
After I wrote my initial post, I thought you might have been referring to Sowers’ 4 pitches (forgot for a bit that he had 4 pitches), whereas Pomeranz having 3 pitches - my bad. When I first read your title, I thought “pitches” meant “quality” pitches, not “pitches that are there, but that are not anything to really write home about” (which is referring more to Sowers’ arsenal).
As you mentioned, Sowers’ curveball was considered to be his best offspeed pitch, a little above-average if I remember correctly, but not really a plus pitch, which I thought was maybe the biggest difference between him and Pomeranz.
As for Pomeranz, yes, the walks are a little concerning - I’d be curious to know how his walk rate was before he suffered that pectoral muscle injury, though I don’t know exactly when he sustained that injury, nor what site would give his start-by-start stats to do a comparison to see if his BB rate was adversely affected after that pectoral muscle injury.
Regardless, if Pomeranz is healthy, I agree that he’s not Sowers v. 2.0, which again seems to indicate the Indians’ change in philosophy when it comes to acquiring/drafting pitchers - they are looking more at power and projectability and making pinpoint command and pitchability secondary (they’d still like pinpoint command and pitchability like any team would, but finding a power package with pinpoint command is like finding a needle in a haystack - perhaps Strasburg or Prior, and we know that Prior didn’t make it due to injuries).
Personally, I would give Pomeranz some time off, perhaps allowing him to pitch in a few games toward the end of the Rookie Level season (mid to late August), or perhaps not letting him pitch until next season. He might not sign until mid-August anyway, but even if he does sign earlier than that (it sounds like he would be more signable than the Top 3 in this draft), I’d still give him a few months before even considering him pitching in any games, just to ensure that that pectoral muscle is fully healed.
Also, perhaps cleaning up his motion (like many professional teams do when working with new pitching prospects) would also enable Pomeranz to have improved command and maybe even more consistent velocity (say, consistent 93-95).
Of course, only time will tell, but certainly, I like the pick, even with the caveat that most say that picks #4-44 are almost identical; it depends on the scouting of the individual organizations themselves to make the calls that will turn out best. I am happy that the Indians weren’t shy about taking Pomeranz after the last-minute buzz about Pomeranz’s falling down the draft boards, since it seems that Pomeranz was a guy they were really after pretty much from the beginning.
Again, good to talk with you, and thanks for clarifying your “pitches” comment - you’re right about Sowers having 4 pitches to Pomeranz’s 3 - my bad. :-)
Take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on Jun 8, 2025 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
why do they take the full time
each time? just to drag it out on purpose?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
it isn’t that bad of a wait, but it must be bud’s call.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
well there goes Loux to D'Backs
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
that was one of the TOP Twins targets , shucks
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Loux...
I see a little Brad Penny in him.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Keith Law
says the Mets are deciding between Harvey and Cox
I would prefer either Sale, but I can live with Harvey. No Cox please
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 7:40 PM EDT reply actions
I dont like Cox either...
:p
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, I think I honestly would rather have Workman to Harvey but I dunno
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They will...
he has sick stuff.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he has good stuff . . .for the moment
Didn’t have good stuff last year. And mechanics wonks seem to really dislike him.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
more Harvey
Command is wobbly. High upside, but a much larger risk than people seem to be remembering at the moment.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
loux
Loux is a mild overdraft but not a GIANT one,considering the nature of the class.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:40 PM EDT reply actions
Someone please take O'Conner before the A's make a huge mistake.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jun 7, 2025 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
This
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 7, 2025 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not a HUGE mistake
That would’ve been Colon. Thank you, Royals.
I’m hoping it’s Whitson or Choice. If Sale falls he’d be very interesting.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a huge mistake with all the talent left on the board.
Considering that Houston is leaning DeShields.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jun 7, 2025 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
I want one of Whitson or Choice at this point. Or Sale. O’Conner wouldn’t be the best use of a pick…unless he turns into a monster. Any reason O’Conner can’t be David Wright if he hits his ceiling?
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor contact ability...
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jun 7, 2025 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So he can never hit for average?
He’s what, 17? He’s got great tools. He’d be a lot better pick than McGuire or Austin Wilson, that’s for sure.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Errr
Astros taking Deshields I guess…blah…
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
#7 NY Mets Matt Harvey RHP
Kind of hoped he might fall to us, but wasn’t expecting it.
by Josh77 on Jun 7, 2025 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
meh, better than the oconners and coxs of the draft
still would prefer either Sale
by viktor06 on Jun 7, 2025 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Not in love with the Stros going with DeShields if it’s the pick.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
Good
Now the Jays won’t be tempted to take him.
by royshowell on Jun 7, 2025 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
deshields
Harvey could a lot like Gibson or White
by Bravesin07 on Jun 7, 2025 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah they could have gotten him at #19 possibly ouch
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
he better turn out to be
at least as good as carl crawford.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're going to do that
Why not say at least as good as Rickey Henderson? Or Ted Williams?
by sstamour on Jun 7, 2025 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i was kidding
but he is an 80 baserunner, so that is comparable, and they think he’ll have 15-20 HR power.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
seeing more than a few people on the web who are shredding this pick
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A five-foot nine outfielder with a rag arm?
Next, please…
by royshowell on Jun 7, 2025 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
With 80 speed. Not saying it's a good pick, but dude can fly.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Jun 7, 2025 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and supposedly 15-20 HR power
again, not saying it is a good pick, but that isn’t necessarily bad.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a lot of power for a little guy.
I mean, he’s built like a rock, but it’s hard to create leverage when you’re 5’9". Not impossible, but hard.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
thats just what i've seen
i don;t even know the source.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it...
but I’m a Pirates fan.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
the next David DeJesus lol i just like comparing people to him
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it because...
they are both De’s
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
To borrow a line from Step Brothers
I just want to deliver one of these (a fist) right in your suck hole [Bryce Harper]
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
DUDE...
chill. But you know what is good for shoulder pain Bryce, if you lick my butthole.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
stop it
cut out the beavis and butthead stuff please
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
does Kam Mickolio have a brother eligible for this draft?
sorry, couldn’t resist
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I love B and B, but let’s keep the off-color language to a minimum in this thread please. I don’t need complaints.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
harvey
Harvey is OK but i’m not really confident that the Mets are the right team to develop him.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
okay, Harper on TV
He’s being kept in “The Room of a Thousand Baseballs”. Thought this was just an urban legend
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
no way past Milwaukee at # 14 IMO
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
‘course, i have no clue what i’m talking about.
by Goonisis on Jun 7, 2025 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
to the Jays, he could be another Brett Cecil
by Bravesin07 on Jun 7, 2025 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh or Chris?
I’m hoping Josh gets to the Rays at 17
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
As an A's fan
I’m currently in the fetal position.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jun 7, 2025 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Does Bud sound like Tom Hanks
Or am I having another stroke?
by ADLC on Jun 7, 2025 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
you should call
an ambulance
Are you experiencing dizziness and short breath
by daman316 on Jun 7, 2025 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
side note?
doesn’t tom cruise in his new movie seem exactly like michael j. fox?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
More like Dice Clay … Houston takes Delino Deshields … OWWW!
by StickRat on Jun 7, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Jays
hoping they get one of the Sales
i was reading whitson and choice are going next
by daman316 on Jun 7, 2025 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Flood of overreaction from waves of A's fans incoming
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by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 7, 2025 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
Man if you're a franchise sitting in the mid or upper teams You Have to Be just Pumped
with how this top 10 is going …. TONS of options falling
Whitson !!!
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
As an angels fan I'm getting amped!
They must be going crazy. They’ll have the cream of the crop at 18-40
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2025 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
*teens
not teams sorry ughed and Thrilled not “pumped” …lol sorry guys
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm newly convinced
That the Rays were just screwing with Houston with their reported “interest” in DeShields Jr.
by sstamour on Jun 7, 2025 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
maybe it was josh sale
they were pretending to like better.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
whitson
I like this pick for the Padres. Very nice.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
yes
Yes. I don’t like Sale’s delivery that much.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm with John on that
I’d take Whitson over Sale also
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Whitson and Latos
could form a very nice combo down the road.
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2025 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
A Latos, Simon Castro, and Whitson top of the rotation?
Yes please!
"If guys wanna complain about playing here they better check themselves and leave" - Nick Hundley.
by Natrone Bomb on Jun 7, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Goldstein and Law both say Choice to A's
Goldstein loves Choice apparently
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 7:57 PM EDT reply actions
wow A's fans have to be Thrilled with that I would think
Very good OF prospect
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm stoked
VERY happy!
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Very happy
The thought of Christian Colon in green and gold made me want to eat my own face.
by ToddyBaseball on Jun 7, 2025 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS
Does anyone have any comparisons for Choice? Nelson Cruz and Carlos Lee came to mind…anyone have anything better? I know comparisons don’t mean much, but they’re still fun.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Corey Brown?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jun 7, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
adam dunn
a lowish average, high OBP big power guy, if it all works out.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis buck?
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2025 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has a LOT more power than Buck
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by Player To Be Named Later on Jun 7, 2025 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesse Barfield
According to Goldstein.
Everytime I think of that, I get super duper excited. Super excited.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Ron Gant
Also heard Vernon Wells at the plate but not in the field.
by ToddyBaseball on Jun 8, 2025 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Chirs Hernandez ...
Anyone know why no one is buzzing about Hernandez?
by StickRat on Jun 7, 2025 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
Hope not given the talent on the board
Not keen on Cox
by TtD on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
he's pretty talented
but wants a lot of money
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I want Josh Sale
Sale in left, Snider in right…
by royshowell on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Choice
This man isn’t phased by anything!
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
Haha that was terrible.
How does he have a job?
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
it reminded me
of those SNL Chris Farley interview skits. “Hey! Remember that movie you were in…? That was awesome.”
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
what an incredible interview!
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the thoughts on Colon now that it's been a few picks later?
Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.
by 306008 on Jun 7, 2025 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
Not the worst pick...
the Tony Sanchez pick last year was worse…lol…it could be the same kind of pick.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He's working out just fine for the Bucs, thank you very much.....
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Jun 7, 2025 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I was saying...
I like it. lol
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it's all right
I get why they did it, would’ve rather they had continued to emphasize the prep angle that they’ve been having success with.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Serious
face palm during that interview. I feel bad for Choice.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
At this point can we call anything a surprise?
Lotta guys with a first round grade are gonna fall out. So happy we signed Mike Gonzalez now.
by ADLC on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of surprised
I’m not mad, not thrilled, I liked the pick when I though Sale and the other Sale would be gone, but good pitcher none the less
by daman316 on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Shoot I was hoping he'd fall a bit more
I really like him, to me its no surprise I thought Mayo or someone I read had him in the top 10
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of taken aback by the McGuire pick
finally a mild surprise.
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by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 7, 2025 8:04 PM EDT reply actions
no surprises?
Houston Astros fans would like to have a word with you.
And probably borrow an oxygen tank too, while they’re at it.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well that wasn't a surprise
they were reported to be picking either sale, choice or deshields.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Man...
What the hell? Another college arm? Ghosts of Ricciardi…so much for the dawning of a new era.
by royshowell on Jun 7, 2025 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Focusing on player type in the draft
was JP’s mistake. Let’s not replicate it here.
I would have prefered J Sale or Cox (I mean, where are the hitters for this team), but they did just get Adeiny for SS (or a good position), and this pitcher does help the rotation. Clearly, the Jays know pitching, and if they ever figure out pitcher health, they might even trade an arm or three for 3B/CF/C help a la the Roy deal.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Selig
Needs to speak with Bryce Harper about where he gets his hair product from since Bud’s is wearing off.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Don't like this pick. Saving money for Wilson in the supp?
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
He is a good pitcher...
potential for 4 above average pitches. Kind of like Leake last year, but with more potential and he won’t come right up and dominate. Also, he is like 7 inches taller, but what I mean is they both are smart guys with a good mix of pitches but not overwhelming stuff.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont hate the pick actually
Just took me by suprise. Doesn’t sound like the type of player AA has been talking about.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Didn’t we draft a guy like this last year in the first round?
by royshowell on Jun 7, 2025 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
very solid pick here
Won’t break their budget, relatively safe bet to contribute in some way.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Sale/Josh Sale
wonder where they will fall
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
I honestlly think that if JOSH Sale falls into the 20's
The Twins will gobble him up, but I bet he’s gone long before then
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the rays
really want him. plus the astros too probably. not as much as deshields, but they like him.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Machado
I put together some GIFs of his swing here:
http://oriolesprospects.com/2010/06/07/orioles-select-manny-machado-with-3-pick-in-2010-mlb-draft/
www.oriolesprospects.com/Forums | www.TheMiLBNetwork.com
by ravensfan3 on Jun 7, 2025 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Klaw says grandal
EVERYONE HIT FOR HOMERS! YOU TOO PENA! Every hit should be a homer! EVEN THE BUNT ATTEMPTS!
by P Brady on Jun 7, 2025 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
makes plenty of sense
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Bye bye...
catching anyway.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no he's a darn good prospect I think they'll develop both of them well
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
my grandal is itchy
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Jun 7, 2025 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
I just mean
I guess they think they can get him below his crazy demands. I thought one of the reasons it fell through with Royals was due to his demands.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
don't need consent
unless you draft a player in back-to-back YEARS, not just draft the same guy twice. E.g., Rays would need consent to redraft LeVon Washington (not that they would)
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Poor choice of words on my part since I do know the rules.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not only that
The Reds have never drafted him.
The Red Sox drafted him 8th round out of HS.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a nice get
at 12
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 7, 2025 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wimmers but I hope not REALLY HOPE NOT -lol
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hoping for a Sale
Will take either, don’t want to get my hopes up by choosing one.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh...
it’s just I have heard Workman linked to them many times.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
considering he apparently wants Posey money
How does he compare to Buster Posey?
by superk1ng on Jun 7, 2025 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
I’m going out on a limb right now to say Posey and Grandal will play in at least one All Star Game together.
by StickRat on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What a combo
Taillon/Matzek would have been
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 7, 2025 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
So. Starting a poll on what ends Machado's Orioles career.
1. Injury before making the majors
2. Hitting .200 in AA ball at 22
3. Exposed to Rule 5 draft, pick up by the Angels
4. Abducted by aliens
5. Retirement after successful MLB career
by ADLC on Jun 7, 2025 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
At least
6. Dave Trembley throwing him under the bus
is no longer a possibility.
by sstamour on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
don't underestimate
7. Traded for veteran starter
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
judges ruling
would that include trading him for Huff 2.0, or does traded for a crappy old position player need its own number?
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
5
makes Tulo like splash at 22
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
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by JDSussman on Jun 7, 2025 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know...
his mechanics make me sick…
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Robertson 2.0 ???
he’s tall, long, lean and lefty
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
nah I'd say he has better stuff than Robertson EVER had really
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure...
but everytime I see him pitch I leave the room. He is just praying to get hurt with that delivery.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
Look at Chris Sale’s Back when he dilvers its kind of a bit of a scary bend going on there
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean it's a risk
But I think it’s worth it at that point. Plus he’s a lefty with a good changeup and fastball sooooo, I mean come on.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 7, 2025 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Callis
says Rangers looking at Skole at #15
Sale could be a steal for a team like Tampa if he falls that far
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
Skole
I was hoping he’d fall to the Twins, but the Rays were looking at him too
by EZEebs on Jun 7, 2025 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Guy on MLB network...
compared Covey to Billingsley. Good comp? I sort of like it.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
There we go...
I love that one.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
As an Angel fan that pick bummed me out
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2025 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
John - what's with the helium on Skole?
he went from outside the consensus top 100 to #15 in… three days?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
skole
Great tools and signable.
He’s a bit raw/rusty but the upside is very high, and they wouldn’t have drafted him if he wasn’t willing to sign.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a STRONG possiblity and prediction
Maaaybe Austin Wilson ???? nah
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
frankly, either of those two would be a terrific fit for their system
Lots of good options for the Rays coming up really, the draft has worked out well for them.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I think and then Stetson(coolest name in baseball) to the Angels
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Twins may want Stetson Allie too :(
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes some sense...
wouldn’t be suprised by Wimmers here either.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston may take him...
coming up.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
not really in the draft budget, is he?
I thought somebody mentioned the Houston draft budget here yesterday . . .and there wasn’t enough room for anything close to what Cox wants.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston doens't pay people in the draft.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Jun 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
hey John if Angels don't take Wimmers
I see him going all the way to the Twins !!!
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
love it!
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
where's toonsterwoo ????? lol
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
was out getting piping to fix some drainage issues.
I’m a bit stunned right now, admittedly. No other way around it. This isn’t even a Colvin case - Colvin was rumored to be sneaking up late first.
That said, his stuff compares relatively well to the college arms in that range. And I’ll give Wilken some BOD - he’s been solid at picking some college arms with the Cubs.
No doubt I’m stunned. Sulking in sorrow? Sorry. low-mid 90’s with 2 good breaking balls is an intriguing enough package that I wouldn’t be sulking in sorrow.
by toonsterwu on Jun 7, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Shadow Rays 1.17
OF Josh Sale (whom I hope and expect the Rays will take IRL) —
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/6/7/1505899/shadow-rays-draft
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
DII guy that started rising mid season
I don’t think anyone saw that coming.
by jar75 on Jun 7, 2025 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah pick of the round in that regard for sure
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
even if you think deshields is a terrible pick
he was a fairly likely possibility for the astros at 8.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They look like they're all about to start crying from laughter
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
Why?
Has Tim Wilken missed on a first round pick yet? Let me know when you do.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 8, 2025 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, I was just typing what I was seeing
I think the guys in the studio were expecting some surprises, but that pick totally blew them away.
by mrkupe on Jun 8, 2025 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
as noted above
i’m stunned with the picks, but I’m not sure what that jab is for. The Cubs system is in fairly solid shape, particularly on the arm side. Not great, as Cashner/Castro will graduate in all likelihood, but solid.
by toonsterwu on Jun 7, 2025 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
"Someone most have been on him
Otherwise they could have wait a few round" HAHAHA
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
steal for Tampa
I would have considered him at #7
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
also, woo
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Remind anyone of...
Josh Vitters?
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really. His strike-zone judgement is reportedly fantastic.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Jun 8, 2025 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh!
Could see that Simpson’s name had just been stuck on a card there, they really weren’t expecting him.
by TtD on Jun 7, 2025 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
lol
If they had taken a white sheet of paper and scribbled his name on there in crayon, we might have had a moment that will never be topped.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
do the astros
spend some money on castellanos or cox? they can always take the pick next year if it doesn’t work out.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
who do Red Sox go with at 20 ?
Workman ???? or Wimmers? or O’Conner ? hmmm …. can’t think
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
whew
Going to be very expensive.
They announced him as a 3B, MLB Network has no footage of him as a hitter!
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you 100% certain about that?
I thought the Angels were suiting him as a pitcher??? i dunno
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure
MLB Network listed him as 3B, MLB site has him as a pitcher.
Will be a VERY hard sign as a RHP.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
simpson
Don’t try to go to the Southern Arkansas website….it crashed my computer and I had to reboot.
I had Simpson on my sleeper list but didn’t expect him anywhere this high.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, wow
Cubs must like the guys soooo much that they didn’t want to risk taking him in the second round like they thought he might have been taken just a few picks before they pick in round 2 …. lol hmmmmm
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
*guys = Simpson
or just guy ….ugh
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that is interesting
might have a fight on their hands.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Brandon Wood
your time has come
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 7, 2025 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
I'll say either Workman or Allie or O'conner
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe a 3B
castellanos or cox. supposedly heck has a decent budget this year.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea...
was gonna post it but I changed my mind.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
folty
I guess Houston must have had some intelligence that suggested he was a target for teams in the 20s.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
needs a breaking ball, but good arm
Lack of an effective breaking ball is a concern for a prep RHP getting drafted that high, but he does have an excellent arm and a good feel for his changeup.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
?
You saw a nice hard curve on MLB network just there, and I’ve seen two scouting reports that grade it out as above-average.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen mixed
But yeah, clearly Houston likes what they see, and I’m inclined to agree.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like
most astros fans are happy too
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
Very legitimate choice there, he was a guy that the Astros loved . . .obviously, because they jumped up a bit to make sure they brought him in.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
supposedly from a Q and A with Folty (no link)
The major-league draft is in June. How badly do you want to play in Wrigley Field or Yankee Stadium?
That’s been a dream of mine. I’m hoping I will get a chance to sign. It will have to be a life-changing amount of money or a high draft pick. Otherwise, I still have a great school to fall back on (Texas).
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
my draft screen froze!
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 7, 2025 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
twins
Looks like I’ll have a shot at Wimmers, Cole, or Eibner with the Shadow Twins.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Man I wish the Twins had 2 picks in the next dozen or so
so many options
Eibner, Allie, Wimmers, Cole, Workman, O’conner, Austin Wilson, Wojo
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
allie
I forgot about Allie….
that is one nice fastball
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
yeah TOUGH choice for your Shadow Twins
wow one of the tougher choices ?
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
+ cox, castellnelos, Bedosrian
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sox gonna take...
Wilson? Allie? I feel like its gonna be one of those.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
According to some BA polls, he doesn’t get past the Giants.
by StickRat on Jun 7, 2025 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooooooooooooo Bo Sox take Vitek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
there kind of guy no doubt
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice...
was just thinking about him. He really is their kind of guy. Perfect fit.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of an odd choice for the Red Sox
with Castellanos and Cox still on the board
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
Twins
If I were them I’d take Wimmers or O’Conner
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
i will see who they go with
I will see who they go with.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
He saw who they went with.
He saw who they went with.
by AGuinness on Jun 7, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i got a feeling
Twins take justin o’conner
by hotshotschamp on Jun 7, 2025 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
I hope not I also hope not Kvasnicka
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
with ALL those other options there The Twins big-board definately held there guy - I would think
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it'd be surprising
Everybody thinks they LOVE Alex Wimmers . . .and why shouldn’t they?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
very under rated.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
wimmers
Wimmers.
I’ll go along. Wimmers is my official Shadow Twins pick.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
what's the argument for Wimmers over Workman?
similar signability as college juniors, both RHP, and every scouting list I’ve seen prefers Workman?
Seriously: am I missing something?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
wimmers
Wimmers has a better changeup, sharper control, and more consistent mechanics.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
great, thanks
I guess I’m running the risk of being a velo whore, plus as a Rays fan I’ve come to think of changeups as teachable.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
wimmers
Better third pitch, better and more consistent command, more consistency in just about every way . . .
Workman throws harder, that’s about his only advantage . . .but it is a considerable one.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking Vitek...
now I’m thinking Workman.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers
I think Workman would be the natural choice.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
by melonhead202 on Jun 7, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
wimmers
Wimmers may throw “only” 90-93 but he has a good breaking ball and a superb changeup.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
SOunds like Baker, Slowey, and Blackburn lol
by MagicMike23 on Jun 7, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah sadly he reminds me of Shooter Hunt
Only he can actually throw a strike so he’s already light years ahead of Shooter…lol
I like the Pick not as good as Kyle Gibson but not too far behind.
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe...
not the worst comp. but Hellboy is in a league of his own right now. How many pitches does he have now?
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Like 5 or 6.
EVERYONE HIT FOR HOMERS! YOU TOO PENA! Every hit should be a homer! EVEN THE BUNT ATTEMPTS!
by P Brady on Jun 7, 2025 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Really didn't see that one coming.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
by melonhead202 on Jun 7, 2025 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
not really
Another very easy sign, lots of teams really liked him. LAD were planning on grabbing him at 28 if he was on the board.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I should note
I think Skole will be a relatively easy sign where he went, just to clarify that.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers/Deglan
Supposedly a predraft deal in place
If he is there, it looks like the Dodgers will go Vettleson (guess I got a steal with him in the Mock Draft!)
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
you did get a steal w/Vettleson in the mock
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
so many good players left for the Giants
please take one of them!
by superk1ng on Jun 7, 2025 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
Will cox make it big in San Francisco?
But that might insult the greatness of conor gillaspie
by MagicMike23 on Jun 7, 2025 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Florida probably takes...
Cole or Sanchez.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
this will be interesting
They’ve looked at a lot of college guys too.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
+2
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how far Workan, Wojo, Allie, Eibner fall?
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
I could see Colorado...
taking workman and LAA taking Allie.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
decent bat
Reasonably safe bat, don’t have a good feel for how much upside is in there . . .thoughts?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
STIFF fielder...
won’t stick in OF
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yah
But will be okay at 1B, and I think there’s he’ll hit for a very healthy average.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea...
the guy is STIFF in the field.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
by joegonzo on Jun 7, 2025 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
reynolds
Reynolds actually said something I agree with about the college juniors overpricing themselves.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Brentz, Ranaudo, Eibner, Hahn, Wojo, Bettis
that’s my top 6
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i would include Seth Blair on tere
worried about Ranaudo holding up
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
reynolds
OK, now he just ruined it by “college stunts growth” which COMPLETELY contradicts his earlier points about guys developing well in college when not drafted out of high school.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
well...
maybe he’s referring to all the drinking and drugging.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
at least he didn't call Matt Wieters "retarded"
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you SF
takes the last guy on my please-don’t-let-the-Rays-take-this-guy list
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
You’re welcome. Prediction … Gary Brown and BJ Upton combine for less than 50 total walks in 2012.
by StickRat on Jun 7, 2025 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see it, I LOVE Allie's fastball and he's underrated to me
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That is such a white guy's name
Is he from the south with that hideous comb over hair style too like pomeranz, beckham
by MagicMike23 on Jun 7, 2025 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Cards
ending Cox’s slide
Not a fan of him, but better here than #7
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
cards
Pure speculation but I think it will be Cox
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
think Cox debut in Batavia in the NYPA
makes this league much more interesting.
by Bravesin07 on Jun 7, 2025 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
will he sign in time to play?
He might get in a couple of weeks’ worth of games, maybe, if he’s lucky.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
cox
I bet he holds out until the last second
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Allie, Eibner, Raunado, Wilson all still available. Surprising to me.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
honestly
None of those guys really surprise me.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
guess
I think Allie and Eibner will get drafted in the 1st. I doubt Wilson and Ranaudo will.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
I hate the cards drafts
A gap hitting 3b who may profile better at 2b and will be a late sign? Over Cole, Allie, castellanos, etc?
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2025 9:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he was a good value here
He wasn’t a top of the draft hitter, but in most drafts, this is the tail end of the range in which he’d go.
He has his flaws, but I think he’s been unfairly criticized . . .wasn’t his fault that there aren’t many good college bats this year.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for trying
To talk me off the ledge. Maybe a good value here, but the BEST value? So many guys to choose from with seemingly more upside and no worse signability. Sigh.
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2025 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dunno
If he taps into his power again, he has plenty of upside. And he’s certainly safer than a lot of the other options.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
I’ve read a little more thoroughly about him and am happier. The player overview I had pulled ip at the time was a little nearsighted, I think.
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
by siddfynch on Jun 8, 2025 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Siddy
I would have accepted Cox over Deck for the Jays more than a dozen picks earlier. I don’t know enough about the other two to comment, but Allie screams radar gun champion to me (again, I’m out of my league here; mine are only the ideas worth checking out).
I’d love to get a ruling from John as to whether Allie is any better at this stage than Schelereth or Perry or Perez or Weathers or Fields. If he’s not, then I’d always want my team to pass with any semblance of a decent other option.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Good to know
Yeah, feel much better now about Cox. Er - you know what I’m trying to say.
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by siddfynch on Jun 8, 2025 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Castellanos
must have floated insane salary demands
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
castellanos
I think he’s looking for at least $2 million, and I’ve seen some really outrageous figures floated around.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
K. Parker strikes me as a failure to adjust to the realities of this draft
Not a bad pick at 26 in the abstract, but over Brentz? I can’t come up with an argument for that.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
I like the pick.
if there is one team to convince him to sign its the phillies.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
by melonhead202 on Jun 7, 2025 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
solid pick, yes
If they wanted a lefty prep pitcher, weren’t exactly a lot of places to look.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Who do the Phillies take here with all the options available?
I hope they pony up and take a Castellanos
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
by melonhead202 on Jun 7, 2025 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
I dont't know if he lasts till round 2 at all, he'll be taken awfully early in that round IMO
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt he gets taken in the supp round
I would love to see the Pirates go after him (but that’s a pipe dream).
by jar75 on Jun 7, 2025 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I think he goes in round 2 like i said
i don’t think he’s go sandwhich round either
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
biddle
I like Biddle as a hometown projectable guy.
Dodgers….O’Conner?
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
money
doubt they have the $$$ for Wilson
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
lemme call him and ask
jk
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 7, 2025 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
or maybe not
Frankie P suggesting a certain Ohio flamethrower is coming up . . .
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
woah
WOAH
LEE!!!! Hope they have a predraft deal
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
no kidding I'm really surprised
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lee
I really love Lee and think he’s been a bit underrated, but where are they going to find that money?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't think
it’s a sneaky smart way of punting a pick ‘til they actually have enough money next year? I know that’s a greed dog strategy normally, but divorce seems like a rare and special disaster, right?
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Brentz, Allie, O'Conner
The 3 best still on my board
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
yeah not bad
others to round out a top 5 best available
Brandon Workman, Asher Wojocheski (lol) , and maybe Austin Wilson
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Harold Reynolds doing commentary on Lee's football video?
Because they somehow managed to get football footage but not baseball footage?
It gets better and better.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
thought
Dodgers might be punting the pick here to go again at 29 in 2011 with presumably a richer vein of talent.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
lee
Conspiracy theory: make an offer to Lee. When he turns it down, pocket the pick for next year and save the money for when ownership is more clear next year.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
glad to know I'm not the only one watching the X-Files
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And
you do. I’m just slow reading down the line.
It’s a decent strategy if true. I don’t see what the Jays gained, if anything, from not getting Pax signed last year, but how often does a team’s payroll and budget get chumped by a dee-vorce? Can’t be every day.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Literally my first thought
Lasorda’s face directly before the pick was announced was priceless.
by blackoutyears on Jun 8, 2025 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
what do you expect
with these 2 picks for the angels?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
I assume 30 has to be Brentz
although for the sake of my Rays at 31, I hope not
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
Bedrosian for the first
Seems good, they do love him. Allie or O’Connor next?
I think they might try to let Tago drop to 37, although I’m sure they love him.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
bedrosian
Bedrosian is a reasonable pick.
I’ll guess O"Conner but my prediction skills are apparently poor.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
This draft is insane. Tomorrow should be a lot of fun!
by JP_Frost on Jun 7, 2025 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Shadow Rays 1.31
Bryce Brentz. Wouldn’t mind Workman, Eibner or Wojo here. Hard to screw up this pick.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
BPA
I have Brentz so much higher than anyone else on my board right now, given the parameters (unprotected pick). Would be happy with those 3 arms, but I’ve gotta go with value. I’m sure the Bowling Green Hot Rods can figure out where to play guys.
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
why don't you wait
and see if you like the pick. and if they go with workman, eibner, stick with that?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
trying to pick without advance knowledge
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Allie falling due to ridiculous bonus demands or am I just to high on him?
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
must be money. He should’ve been off the board by now. Wouldn’t surprise me if he goes to UNC next year.
by JP_Frost on Jun 7, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
rays
will the Rays go with an arm like Allie? Eibner?
I think Workman is going to keep dropping
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
rays
since the rays pick is unprotected, I’ll say Eibner instead of one of the HS guys.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
I like this pick
Fills an organizational need and likely is signable
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
with a superstud like nevin ashley?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
I assume they’ve got a deal worked out with him?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
maybe
But love the pick. One of my favorite preps from this class.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
o'conner
O’conner is a fine pick.
Yankees….spend the money for Allie? Go with Brentz or Eibner? Or take someone even more conservative?
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
question
Rays didn’t sign LeVon Washington last year . . .ended up with the O’Connor. Who is the better prospect in your opinion: Washington in 2009, or O’Connor in 2010?
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That Simpson card still so shiny
on that draft board :D.
by TtD on Jun 7, 2025 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Cannot believe that Brentz is still there
with a little coaching he has a really good bat
by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2025 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
Supposedly
The Astros have a decent sized budget this year. Castellanos?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
If Houston passes on Allie..
the Jays better put that supposed big budget to use!
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, I think we're about to learn just how much money they've got
Potential of overslot deals later in the draft or not, they’re not going to find guys as talented as Castellanos or Allie later.
by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2025 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
culver
Culver…interesting home state surprise pick. Quite raw, but toolsy.
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Terrible Pick
There is no way that he wouldn’t be available in second round.
by cookiedabookie on Jun 7, 2025 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate this line of thinking
chances are, your wrong. they aren’t just picking that guy for the hell of it. he’d probably have been gone by their next pick, and they liked him enough that they didn’t want to take that risk.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 8, 2025 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not they could trade down
to max the value of the pick. This ain’t the NFL. This ain’t Isiah taking Balkman in the first.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
new thread
will open a new thread for the supplemental round
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2025 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
I just realized
A.J. Cole is still out there, too
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2025 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
dagger for the terps, culver taken :(
Sliced Bread Is Actually The Best Thing Since Matt Wieters.
by Orioles77 on Jun 7, 2025 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
yea don’ know why… I guess he chose that though… he was a hitter recruit
Sliced Bread Is Actually The Best Thing Since Matt Wieters.
by Orioles77 on Jun 7, 2025 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
KLaw says
he was taken as a hitter, mlb.com draft tracker was incorrect.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 7, 2025 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN!!
Are the Jays gonna take ANY bats in this mofo?
by royshowell on Jun 7, 2025 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
Adeiny
does buy them a bit of a pass for a hint. And they did just turf some Roy fellow for hitting prospects.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2025 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
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