July 21 - National Joe Mauer Advertising Day (also, MiLB games were played)
by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 4:40 PM EDT
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OK, I feel much better now. Thanks Joe!
The surprising Jose Altuve callup has me wondering what the community's predictions are on callup dates for the following prospects:
Brett Lawrie: July 27 is my prediction
Jason Kipnis: August 15
Julio Teheran: July 28
Jesus Montero: September ??
Devin Mesoraco: Also September
Matt Moore: Predict he will NOT be called up (and that they would rather shut him down than switch him to the pen to limit innings)
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I think Mesoraco is called up when Hernandez is dealed
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
If/when Hernandez is dealt, but yeah, I think that makes sense
Likely destinations for Hernandez? Would SF think about it, or do they stick with the Whiteside/Stewart/Sanchez in-house options?
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, Id guess SF
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd be a great fit there
Nice defender with a good arm, good situational hitter and very even-keeled, professional approach. I wasn’t wild about acquiring him from BAL to be honest, but he has really, really grown on me. Good player and a good leader/teammate. I don’t imagine there are many catchers available who are as qualified to handle that pitching staff. I don’t think it would take much to get him as he’s an FA after the season.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I missed an obvious pun for X being “head & shoulders” a better player than Y, but I’ve been in a bit of a slump since that SI cover story.
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The UPMC dropdown ad is pretty annoying as well but I guess it pays the bills.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What position do you guys think Lawrie is going to play once he gets there with Joey Bats at 3rd?
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
Yep
Bautista is just keeping it warm for Lawrie.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 21, 2025 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Some probables tonight
AAA: Martin Perez
AA: Chris Balcolm-Miller, Christopher Dwyer, Robert Erlin, Christian Friedrich, Kyle Heckathorn vs Chris Withrow
FSL: Nestor Molina vs Jake Thompson, Julio Rodriguez, Rafael Soriano
CAL: Parker Frazier
Carolina: Noel Aguelles
MWL: Zach Lee
South Atl: Jameson Taillon
NOR: Will Lamb
NYP: Kyle Hallock, Matt Hobgood
by Matt0330 on Jul 21, 2025 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
actually, correction
I decided not to go to this one . . .traffic is a little crazy even by my standards and I have some other obligations that would be better satisfied by working on them tonight.
I’ll probably make it up to you guys with the offer of some video later this evening.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What ever happened to that game report you were gonna have
I wanna say it was San Antonio and someone else
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by hero66 on Jul 21, 2025 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
NW Arkansas? Or Texas ASG report?
The latter I’m still up for posting, although I think I’ve managed to divulge a lot of what I saw through various comments. Not sure how much more I can add; Mike Trout is in the majors and you can see him yourself, Grant Green is no longer a shortstop, etc.
A notable exception would be Wil Myers, who I haven’t talked a whole lot about. That is because I’ve also seen Myers in several other games recently, have been reviewing the considerable amount of video footage I’ve got on him, and am writing a detailed scouting report on him.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything on Darwin Perez or Garrett Richards
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by miketrout on Jul 21, 2025 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
would love to see the myers stuff when you are finished
any chance you could send me some of the video?
by Los Gueros on Jul 21, 2025 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
I’m planning on editing what I have for clarity and then posting it on Youtube. I don’t anticipate keeping anything to myself if somebody else is interested in it.
I’m not exactly a video pro (not yet anyways), but you’ll get a pretty good look at him and some good examples of his swing.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks kupe
just let us know when it is up. really looking forward to it.
by Los Gueros on Jul 22, 2025 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, it was NW Arkansas
You don’t have to write up anything you don’t want to, though, I was just wondering.
I’m looking forward to the Myers stuff though, definitely pass that along.
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by hero66 on Jul 21, 2025 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
on the contrary, feel free to ask about whatever you want
I just like saving some cool stuff for you guys. :)
I have a Jake Odorizzi scouting report finished as well, but it’s publication has been held up for a few days due to logistics. Hopefully that will be out before too long.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Odorizzi
definately looking forward to this
by Slinger on Jul 21, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang
Way off!
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 21, 2025 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oscar Taveras continues his domination of late
3-5, double, bb - hitting .396
by hybrid on Jul 21, 2025 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
Who here drafted Oscar Taveras before the start of the 2011 season?
C’mon, I wanna see a show of hands. I’m betting less than 6 people.
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
* "fewer"
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked him before the year
but I can’t say I had him, though I added him one week into the season so almost.
by hybrid on Jul 21, 2025 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He was very high on my list
but got drafted before I was able to pick, much to my chagrin. I was very impressed by his Johnson City numbers, and thought he had a chance to be this year’s Oswaldo Arcia.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh,
and you are my hero for realizing the fewer/less distinction, sidd. Sports writing is especially poor in this regard.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait 'til you see my superb use of affect/effect!
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't expect anything fewer from such a wordsmith as he.
by PissedMick on Jul 21, 2025 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hah
agree with this
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
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by hero66 on Jul 21, 2025 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was definitely on the radar
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 21, 2025 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I signed him in my BCMBL league
after reading about him in BA’s league rankings last year . . .
by gogotabata on Jul 21, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
**WAVES HAND!!!**
Picked him the round after I picked Neil Ramirez in the pre-season. All credit goes to John.
Of course, they came after I picked Deryk Hooker. THANKS, JOHN!!! J/K LOL
by Ryno1984 on Jul 21, 2025 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Halfway there
That makes three preseason grabs of Taveras.
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
IIRC,
it was a short season sleepers thead here and/or an STL fan who brought him to my attention. Spend enough time around here and most guys will get at least a mention.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Picked him in a brand new dynasty league this year
10 round minor league draft, took him in the 8th. 16 team league, liked johns and BA’s right up and bats were weak at that point. Next pick was Tony Walters
by gpellet41 on Jul 21, 2025 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I did
Took him in both of my deep leagues.
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by gatling on Jul 21, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Should I pick him up in my Dynasty?
Got a few spots open now that Kipnis is up
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He's worth a look
I did a 9-way “Young OF Smackdown” of 1st and 2nd yr pros last year. When all was said and done, he ended up just behind Arcia and ahead of guys like Marisnick and Marte. That gives me a lot more confidence that this breakout is legit - supported by an a priori hypothesis, basically.
I wouldn’t drop Lawrie for him just yet, but I do believe he’s legit and that he’ll be a high riser during this offseason, much the way people gradually realized Segura ought to be recognized last offseason.
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't
(Except for my day job, where I write a shit-ton).
I do a bunch of preseason analysis for my league, but it’s all spreadsheets that I don’t share ‘cuz my league mates are all over this site. Of course, they’re so savvy that it likely wouldn’t make a difference anyway.
The evolution of prospecting has really evened the playing field lately; My big draft scores (3 round drafts) in the past few years appear to be limited to just Matt Moore and Oscar Taveras after their first pro years. That’s pretty competitive. And I’d have chosen Arcia over Taveras last year if I weren’t a Cards fan and decided to finally celebrate their first under-the-radar legit prospect in recent memory.
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Young OF smackdown from this past Oct
Looking back, I guess I had 1st through 3rd-yr players in there. FWIW, here were how the ranks shook out - mostly based on scouting, stats, ARL, and pedigree. I also weighted hit and speed tools a little higher than fielding and arm tools, but did factor defensive spectrum into it (which helped in Lipka’s case).
They separated into 4 tiers:
Arcia
Taveras
Lipka
Puello
Marisnick
Yorman
Liriano
A Garcia
Ryde Rodriguez
For the heck of it, I went back and re-seeded Marte (4th-year player) into it; he slotted into top of 2nd tier. Hicks was ineligible, but I put him in anyway just to see where a pedigreed blue-chipper would fit - and he easily fit above Arcia.
In hindsight, Arcia, Taveras and maybe Marte were the best calls, and Puello was maybe the best call for not yet jumping on the bandwagon.
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by siddfynch on Jul 21, 2025 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting
Would you still put Taveras ahead of Marisnick? Both have had outstanding years, but Marisnick has stayed healthy all year.
by guru4u on Jul 22, 2025 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Good question
I don’t know, have only been follow Taveras. I know Marisnick is also doing well, but I usually save the analyses until the offseason.
Taveras’ stretch of nagging injuries does worry me a little. He needs that development time.
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by siddfynch on Jul 22, 2025 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You aren’t concerned at all with the low BB rates? His K rate isn’t horrible (right around 20%) and he is young but 5% BB rates are pretty low. I’ve read reports he has an advanced approach so maybe he is just swinging at everything because he is seeing the ball well right now…of course, most of the time when I make that assumption it turns out they are just really aggressive and rarely learn to take BBs.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure I'm concerned
But they’ve all got a yellow flag somewhere at this point. In his case, the optimistic viewpoint is that he’s got a few hundred more ABs to get it figured out. He’s only 19, and not egregiously hacktastic, so the flag isn’t red for me yet.
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by siddfynch on Jul 22, 2025 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
BB/K
If you are going by AB’s he has a 8% walk rate and 18% k rate, which don’t seem bad at all considering he turned 19 recently. Also if you look a bit at his stats you will see about half of his k’s (13) came in a 40ab period when he just came back from a month lay off due to an injury. So really besides that small blip (given overall still SSS) he has been hitting everything and would have a 12% k rate if you took out just those 40ab.
by hybrid on Jul 22, 2025 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone looks good if you take out their worst stretch.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously
but I thought I made it obvious as to why, he was out for over a month with out playing … seems pretty logical that he would be rust and when half of his k’s came that there is something to it.
by hybrid on Jul 22, 2025 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you ever calculate BB rate with ABs as the denominator
by nixa37 on Jul 22, 2025 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got three walks in five PAs
a 150% walk rate!
by PissedMick on Jul 22, 2025 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Tough crowd!
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by siddfynch on Jul 22, 2025 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
I really don’t, but it seems like that’s what jfish did w/ Taveras’s K rate (otherwise it is even less cose to 20%) so I just did it for both.
by hybrid on Jul 22, 2025 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going off memory, I looked him up on Fangraphs not that long ago. Forgive me if I was off 1% one way or the other.
Taveras came up in Callis chat today and he cautioned anyone buying him too soon and basically said he is a 4th OF until he can duplicate his numbers at AA or higher.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
…of course, KG just said this today as well:
…becoming the guy I’m regretting not putting on the Top 50 with each passing day.
I think he is a pretty good prospect, just like to see more BBs. We will see what he does when he reaches the upper minors.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Kipnis is being called up
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
Mesoraco wants to help out the Reds, but can't
3-4, double
by hybrid on Jul 21, 2025 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
give him a week or so
Hernandez should be traded
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why won't they
let him help? lol
It is like the Cozart situation in that he looks ready to provide at least average offense for his position, difference being that our catching tandem is much, much better than our SS tandem was.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes going to be the next big prospect up
Looks like he has his timing back
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
...
his double was laced off the top of the wall (fwiw)
by Alfamale on Jul 21, 2025 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonathan Correa
a popular pre-season sleeper now suspended for a year for lying about his age.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2011/07/reds-prospect-jonathan-correa-suspended-one-year-for-fraud/
by rdf8585 on Jul 21, 2025 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
...
a little surprised this hasn’t gotten any reaction on here….
by rdf8585 on Jul 21, 2025 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
My Predictions
Lawrie- Up before the deadline
Teheren- Up right after the deadline
Mesoraco- Up right after the deadline
Darnell- Up sometime in August
Montero- Gets traded and comes up sometime late August-September
Martin Perez- Up in September to help out the Rangers pen
Matt Moore- Up in September
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
I actually think there's a better chance Arodys Vizcaino gets the call that Teheran
At least before September. Vizcaino has already moved to the AA bullpen to limit his innings and his stuff could be good enough to be an asset out of the bullpen right now. Teheran on the other hand will likely start in Gwinnett until the end of their season in order to keep building up his innings and get him ready for a full season as a starter next year.
by nixa37 on Jul 21, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that makes sense
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
unless they can trade Lowe
And then Teheran or Minor will be in the majors, in the rotation. Viz in the pen makes sense.
by noelman31 on Jul 21, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Eddie Rosario
1-1 already in Appy ball with another HR. Back to back games with Homers
This kid is looking like a 5 tooler. Interesting prospect, might have a nice ceiling.
by hotshotschamp on Jul 21, 2025 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
actually, today's HR makes it 3 straight games with a jack!
Love this kid. Power/speed/patience.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Heredia
already went today.
3IP, 2H, 1ER, 0BB, 4K
Taillon so far
1IP, 1H, 1BB, 2K
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Make
that 2IP, 1H, 1BB, 4K
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 21, 2025 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Lokks like final of
5IP 4H 2R 2ER 1BB 6K with 1 HRA for Taillon. Very solid after his last two so-so outings.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Middlebrooks has already blasted a double
Keith Law says his breakout is very real, and projects as an above average 3B.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 7:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
well, I guess some dude from Boston had to get the "ESPN Bump"
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
lame
sarcastic or not, get over yourself. there are just as many prospects from non-east coast teams who get undeserved love. sick of hearing this bullshit every time a red sox/yankees prospect is discussed on here
by jwa1417 on Jul 21, 2025 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 21, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
For pete's sake,
thicken your hide a bit.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a little sensitive?
I was making a comment about invoking Keith Law’s opinion. Keith Law does work for ESPN.
I guess I was the only one watching the Futures Game on ESPN and listening them talk about Middlebrooks as Scott Rolen 2.0 while he was busy Ryan Brauning a routine grounder.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah and Scott Rolen never botched a grounder
I actually agree with you that he’s getting overrated (his approach needs some serious work), but if your basing it on that one misplay that’s clearly flawed.
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by Lesterfan on Jul 21, 2025 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't using that as an example of reality vs. opinion about his defense
I was just using it as an example of ESPN never missing an opportunity to talk up Boston players. It’s the style of coverage that they want and they are clearly entitled to that (and they seem to make money, so who am I to say they’re wrong?).
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Rolen
would have made that play.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
what??
which players did they NOT talk up in the Futures Game? They went out of their way to speak highly of ~90% of the players.
one error in that game says absolutely nothing about the type of defender he is. you sound like the guy who claimed he was downgrading Altuve after his 2 hits in the futures game weren’t line drives, so who knows how many of his hits are like those??
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he is disputing that 1 error means very little.
I’m a little surprised to see people so upset at the thought that ESPN plays to the largest markets to increase their ratings. Gammons is about the biggest Red Sox homer I’ve heard, he may as well be broadcasting the Red Sox games. I’m not sure Law is the best example of media bias but there are definitely examples of networks doing their best to appeal to the largest markets.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
The second largest market in North America behind New York is Los Angeles.
Of course ESPN ‘plays’ to the largest markets, but that has nothing to do with the promotion of players in the Red Sox or Yankees farm system. Any time one of their prospects falters, however minor it might be, people love to jump to “well, thats just espn/keith law/anyone pumping up that organization. they’re overrated” stance.
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Law is fairly objective. To be honest, he doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy that gives two shits about what his readers think as long as he is employed and he does a good enough job for ESPN to keep him employed. He may have certain profiles he likes more than others (all analysts do and certain teams go after certain profiles so that is part of the issue right there) but I don’t think he has any particular bias towards a team.
That said, there are some who do. I’ve heard the argument made that Callis has a Boston bias and I get that vibe a little. Again, he likes tools and Boston goes after tools but he has been doing the Boston system rankings for at least 11 years and does seem to talk about them an awful lot. Gammons is a no brainer. I don’t think it is as big of an issue (meaning I don’t really care even if there is a bias) as I used to when I first started paying attention to prospects but I very much think they like to appeal to the largest markets.
When I say markets, I mean baseball markets. ESPN talks up the Lakers in basketball because basketball is what is important. They talk up the Cowboys and Steelers because those are the teams with the biggest followings. In baseball, it is the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Cubs, etc. It is just the way it works. ESPN is in the business of getting high ratings, selling magazines, and making money.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Law is objective about players, but he does have his beefs with certain organizations.
My favorite one being a strong case in point as he’ll praise Rockies prospects while at the same time tearing down the organization they play in. Whether it’s simply philosophical differences taken to an extreme and played up for good copy, or something more personal is sometimes hard to tell. I don’t think it’s a east-coast/west-coast thing, in the Rockies case, I actually suspect that it might be an anti-religious projection on a team closely associated with Jesus-freaks.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha what???
i don’t think Keith law takes religious beliefs into consideration when evaluating players
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said he did, my subject line says that he's objective about players.
I think he does have issues with certain teams, and he’s absolutely written in the past that he believes the Rockies misguided in their approach of targeting character guys (to put his opinion on this lightly) and it’s just a suspicion given his pretty outspoken atheism (I’m an atheist too, by the way) that the religion thing still bugs him. I do know that he hates Jim Tracy, he makes this clear at least once a week on Twitter, sometimes a few times. I know that he had to include a question about Tyler Matzek getting ruined by the Rockies organization every single week in his chats for most of this season. Again, I think he makes fair evaluations of talent, but I think he has clear organizational bias when it comes to front offices he likes and tends to give more rope to a few for prospect failures, while quickly jumping on others.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
mmm
you may be right but is he wrong to dislike Tracy? he’s a terrible in-game manager. and it’s not his fault he probably gets hundreds of questions about Matzek and why he has fallen off this year so badly…he’s gotta answer them. i don’t think he has any incentive to bash or boost an organization though, it’s not like he has no leg to stand on with the Tracy/Matzek issues.
by jwa1417 on Jul 23, 2025 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a leg to stand on, but also an axe to grind.
There are other terrible managers (Fredi Gonzalez?) in the bigs that don’t quite get this ink from him. Other organizations that have mismanaged top prospects that don’t get brought up every single week.
And I absolutely believe he has incentive to bash some organizations, to consistently bash a manager like Tracy as that seems to be a large part of his appeal to his audience. If it drives the traffic to the website, he’s doing his job, so I don’t really blame him, I just think it’s silly to think that he carries no organizational biases when he pretty clearly displays them week in, week out. Again though, I think he does fine separating that from evaluating individual prospects.
by Rox Girl on Jul 23, 2025 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything of substance on Colorado 'ruining' Tyler Matzek?
All I’ve happened upon is practical innuendo & hearsay, but it seems to be treated as veritable gospel.
by Matt0330 on Jul 24, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
not sensitive, annoyed
Right, your comment was implying that ESPN (and Keith Law, in particular) undeservedly promotes specific players from Boston.
Coincidentally, you’re also the only one who must have missed every report (Goldstein, Callis, SICKELS, etc) on Middlebrooks’ plus glove. ZOMG EAST COAST BIAS EVERYWHERE!!!
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
why not just accept it?
its kind of a silly thing to be in denial about.
by daveh33 on Jul 22, 2025 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Accept it?
Too easy, especially when outrage is a permanent state of mind for 90% of humanity.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
accept what?
the fact that people sound like idiots when they make broad statements like that? i’m not denying the fact that teams like boston and new york get more attention from espn, did you even read what the original comment was?
‘well, I guess some dude from Boston had to get the “ESPN Bump”’
if you don’t understand the ignorance and stupidity of that comment, i don’t know what to tell you.
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused as to what your argument is
You just said yourself that those teams get more attention from ESPN. In an earlier post, you stated that “Of course ESPN ‘plays’ to the largest markets, but that has nothing to do with the promotion of players in the Red Sox or Yankees farm system.” My recognizance of the truth of the first point is actually what you’ve gone ape about, and your second point is diametrically opposed to the first point.
I actually think Keith Law is quite fair; he certainly has his pronounced biases, but organizational loyalty does not appear to be one of them.
Now, if your reason for raising such a stink is predicated on your belief that I am ignorant and stupid, then you’re actually trolling. Feel free to tell me that you think I’m wrong in this case, feel free to explain to me (in civil terms) how you think that I’m wrong, but you are going to get nowhere fast by calling me out over nothing at all - especially when you actually seem to agree with my point.
by mrkupe on Jul 22, 2025 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much agree, should have read this before I typed my last response.
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it is safe to say
That all of the prospect analysts (KLaw, KG, Callis, Manuel, etc) are pretty well free from organizational bias. They have other biases (e.g. KG being a velo whore), but saying KLaw talked up Middlebrooks because he plays in the Boston organization is quite ludicrous.
by guru4u on Jul 22, 2025 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
should have read THIS before i typed my last response
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you realize that he was actally agreeing with me
Probably because he read this part of my post:
“I actually think Keith Law is quite fair; he certainly has his pronounced biases, but organizational loyalty does not appear to be one of them.”
by mrkupe on Jul 22, 2025 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
my argument is that you sound like a fool when you say something like “well i guess some dude from Boston had to get the ‘espn bump’” when people from non-espn outlets are just as high on middlebrooks now.
i don’t understand why this has to be brought up EVERY time a red sox/yankees prospect is discussed on here. that was my original statement, not anything about espn wanting to make money and appealing to their largest audiences blah blah blah. people are so quick to dismiss these players as overrated now simply because you assume espn is just boosting their profile because of the organization they’re in.
by jwa1417 on Jul 22, 2025 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
i don’t understand why this has to be brought up EVERY time a red sox/yankees prospect is discussed on here
As someone who frequents this forum on a daily basis, that quite clearly isn’t the case. You’re going way overboard.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
okay
but what other organization is blamed for this? why isn’t ESPN giving C-Mart the “ESPN bump” this year for St. Louis? why didn’t they give Tampa Bay the ESPN bump for Moore? Every time someone thinks a Red Sox/Yankees prospect is overrated, out comes this ridiculous argument that ESPN has created some false hope for the players
by jwa1417 on Jul 23, 2025 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You're missing the point
It’s demonstrably false that there’s some sort of ESPN bias charge “every time” a Red Sox or Yankee prospect is brought up here (overrated, underrated or just rated), or even much of the time.
by blackoutyears on Jul 24, 2025 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
your second point is diametrically opposed to the first point.
Yeah, that was pretty much my take as well. Lightweight cognitive dissonance ensues.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What is Starling Marte's HR power potential?
5-10
10-15
15-20
20+
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Potential?
absolute I’d say 15-20. I think he will settle into being a consistent 12-15 guy though. That’s being a tad optimistic though.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 21, 2025 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I say though
alot. To clarify, 9-12 is probably conservative. I’ll go a bit homer and say 12-15
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 21, 2025 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
IF he hits .300+ with 10+ HR, 30+ SB, gold glove defense...
He will be a very valuable player for the Pirates. Frack walks.
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ya.. will come with a lowish obp considering
still awesome
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 21, 2025 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
predicting 12-15 HR power for Marte is being a homer. He could hit 20 per year in his prime. He’s already fairly strong and there’s a lot of room for muscle still on his frame. The bigger question is whether he will ever be selective enough. His poor patience is not only going to limit his walks, but also limit the number of hittable pitches he sees, which will in turn suppress both the BA and the power.
by epoc on Jul 21, 2025 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Blanks up
Rizzo down
don't panic. stay cool. dream big.
Pocket&Flask;
by thepadfather on Jul 21, 2025 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I figured that would happen eventually
Rizzo looked pretty bad after those 1st couple games
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
and Guzman has been hitting well enough to steal time, which is never a good sign.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Hawkins in the midst of a big day
2/2, HR(4), 2B
by The_Bunk on Jul 21, 2025 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
...
i think this kid is worth watching. a little bit of skill in all depts.
by Alfamale on Jul 21, 2025 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
liked him last year
Yet another intriguing player in this system . . .
by mrkupe on Jul 22, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Nestor Molina
5 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
9-2 GO/AO
Season: 93.1 IP, 82 H, 26 ER, 11 BB, 101 K
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jul 21, 2025 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
Blue Jays' farm system is becoming one of the best
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's love
He’s really making a splash. The control is outstanding.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
altuve then kipnis...tomorrow is Giavoltella
but maybe not, KC seems happy w getz
by Rupert Pupkin on Jul 21, 2025 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
Giavotella definitely deserves a shot
He’s been raking: .340/.394/.485!!!
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 8:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe they are quietly shopping Getz
Getz has more value if he is playing every day…. though I guess one could make the argument the more he plays, the more his value goes down….
by guru4u on Jul 22, 2025 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Better be a BIG discount to get any buyers!
by Jersey Transplant on Jul 22, 2025 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Lavarnway
Just struck out, but another 2 run homer tonight
1 for 3 so far
by Dorn on Jul 21, 2025 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
feels like he's hitting homers at a Chris Davis pace lately
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I turned this game on...
He had a HR stolen from him in the 9th. Brandon Moss jumped up and caught one that would have went over the wall. Not really that great of a catch- the wall was low there, and he was playing super deep.
Unreal how good Lavarnway is hitting right now.
by noelman31 on Jul 21, 2025 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
he had another one just short of the wall two nights ago
#mashingit
by PrincetonCubs on Jul 21, 2025 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Grichuk
I didn’t see it noted, but he was promoted to Cedar Rapids yesterday. Oh-fer yesterday, 0-for-1 with a walk so far today.
by realitypolice on Jul 21, 2025 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
hoping he gets that hacktastic approach under control
Nice power potential, but can be an easy out if he’s gonna be chasing everything coming out of the pitcher’s hand.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Love Grichuk
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly
What is there not to like? Look at his number the past 2 years, he mashes the ball. Once he improves his plate discipline, he going to be a top 50 prospect at worst. What I mean by saying I love Grichuk is that I love his potential, its not like I think hes a top of the line prospect yet
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
-He’s still in low A , thanks to injuries
-He’s an all bat prospect
-He’s an extremely free swinger
He’s not anywhere close top 50. He’s a C+ prospect, B- if you really like him.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 21, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
being that most of us are fantasy leaguers
it should be noted that grichuk’s ceiling for fantasy purposes is extremely high. indeed, he might have one of the highest such ceilings in all of the low minors.
by mathwonk on Jul 21, 2025 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure if he's quite that high ceiling
But he’s certainly got power, and power is indeed very valuable when it comes to fantasy baseball.
Being a guy from a warm-weather state, he seems like a good candidate to break out once he reaches the Cal.
by mrkupe on Jul 22, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its reasonable to say he could put up a few 315/360/520 years with maybe 30 HR and 15 SB
Like mentioned, he lacks the ability to take a walk, but as I said yesterday, he is very good at selecting HIS pitch which is why he drives so many balls.. Maybe a bit too pull-happy as well. We will see how that translates as he approaches Mickey Hatcher and his Oppo or bust teaching style. I’d say he has the most potential of any hitter in the Angels MiLB system, right with Cowart
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I didnt say hes a top 50 yet
I probably have him as high as back end 100, if that. Dont put words into my mouth
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair,
you did say that he’s plate discipline away from being Top 50. The response were perfectly fair in that context. Probably best not to even use the phrase if you don’t want the conversation to go there.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
mathisrocks5
off topic, but what’s up with taylor lindsey? i haven’t seen him in the orem lineup for at least a week…
by mathwonk on Jul 21, 2025 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard he had the flu somewhere? not 100% though
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
hopefully nothing serious because he was raking
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Im not even going to bother arguing
because if I say something positive about an Angels prospect, its written off because Im an Angel fan. The only one I really like a lot are Trout, Segura, Cowart, Cron and Grichuk. I like Ricahrds a bit, but dont go overboard on him like miketrout. I shouldnt even talk about Angels prospects because everyone think im a homer
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 22, 2025 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we are better now.. we both have our favorites and thats prospecting
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Ronald Torreyes is a hitting machine!
3/3 so far!
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 8:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think that's consecutive
three-, four- and five-hit games. Drew a walk too. Start Pricelining tix to Bakersfield.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
makes you wonder
if it was a waste of time NOT to have had him begin the yr with Dayton.
by rdf8585 on Jul 21, 2025 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I think there was a log jam with some of the recent draftees (Lohman, Vidal) that had to be sorted, and we can’t say that the delay has hindered Torreyes.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
JD Martinez
2/4
Business as usual.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he was a preseason favorite of mine
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Arcia's
Is anybody else starting to pay attention to Orlando Arcia?
16yr old SS in DSL with slash of .316/.403/.504 and 17/11 BB/K in 39 games
I know it’s the DSL, but the early returns are looking impressive for 16.
by High and Inside on Jul 21, 2025 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
not quite yet
~David Kahn is pretty much clueless~
Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 22, 2025 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Adalberto Mejia
Another DSL guy on my radar
7IP 5H 9K 1BB
Season:
55.1IP 53K 4BB
Filthy numbers!
by High and Inside on Jul 21, 2025 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Another DSL guy...
Jeimer Candelario-3B (CHC), 17 y/o .345/.462/.448 34/24 BB/K, in 43 games. 6’1’’, 180 lbs, switch-hitter.
Otherwise, dont know anything about him.
by rhd on Jul 21, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Been following him, too
Does he project for more power? Seems like 2 HR"s in 142 AB’s in the DSL isn’t much.
by High and Inside on Jul 21, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Withrow went 5 innings without walking anyone
by Jeff Reese on Jul 21, 2025 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah it is but the two starts preceding this one were vintage 2010 Withrow
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 21, 2025 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If only...
future IsoP was the only stat that mattered in prospecting…Kid would be top 10 for sure.
by jjoyen on Jul 21, 2025 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Pastornicky
2 for 5. 5 for 14 since being moved up to AAA. Don’t know if he gets called up this year but positioning himself well to be the starting SS by mid 2012. Might be given a chance in spring training with Alex Gonzalez being a free agent.
by ROBERTS04 on Jul 21, 2025 9:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Defense
His range is above average but his arm and accuracy are well below average that being said i’ll take anyone(hitting wise) over Alex Gonzalez
by Jay212033 on Jul 21, 2025 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
...
well below average arm? he throws 90-92…
by Alfamale on Jul 21, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
HS maybe
But I saw him several times with my own eyes and his arm is below average
by Jay212033 on Jul 22, 2025 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Pastornicky + 1 to Twins for Cuddyer
~David Kahn is pretty much clueless~
Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 22, 2025 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Malm 1-3 HR (9)
Dude is beasting it up right now.
by mr. maniac on Jul 21, 2025 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
Edit
He ended the night 2-5 with two homers.
by mr. maniac on Jul 22, 2025 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Robbie Erlin's line on the night
5 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 84 pitches, 61 strikes
The more I see, the more I think he’s a prospect to be liked, not loved.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
what changed?
his perpherals have remained really good in AA moving up from high A at 20. He’s always had the same scouting reports. He’s not a top of the line guy, never was.
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by blalock84 on Jul 21, 2025 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing has changed
Still the same pluses and same concerns.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 21, 2025 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
and still a good prospect. His recent performance shouldnt change that, he’s done well at AA
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by blalock84 on Jul 22, 2025 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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Jorge Bonifacio
4-5, HR
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by doublestix on Jul 21, 2025 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
The intriguing Jorge Bonifacio
4 for 5 with a homer.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Matt Curry
2 for 4 with a homer. Lots of two-hit games recently. Seems to be coming around from his rough transition to Double-A as hoped.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
Curry
The difference in his June/July numbers is striking:
June: .227/.286/.371 7BB:32K in 97AB
July: .352/.395/.563 6BB:10K in 71AB
We’re not talking about large samples here, but when a guy cuts his strikeout rate by almost two thirds while maintaining everything else, you know there’s improvement going on.
by PissedMick on Jul 22, 2025 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
And the High-A K:BB was so good that you had to figure there’d be a correction.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jae-Hoon Ha
Back in Double-A and hitting pretty well. 2 for 4 with a double today. Still not walking…
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
Top 125 possibly closer to top 75 overall
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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 22, 2025 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a little harsh.
I don’t think the Cubs system is THAT deep. He’s at least in their top 30.
by PissedMick on Jul 22, 2025 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He Means Overall.
Which isn’t even close as well.
by LionsFan10 on Jul 22, 2025 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The Alen Hanson Fan Club
has temporarily adjourned, but he’s still hitting. 1 for 3 with a double and .272/.339/.478 on the year. Also more advanced at the plate than most teenagers with solid BB (10.1%) and strikeout (14.7%) rates.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
YAY!!
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 21, 2025 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm definitely
going to be taking a long look at him in next year’s draft.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
he’s cooled down and I’ve been less enthused (hangs head). Of course it was expected and he’s still very interesting.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 22, 2025 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm telling you,
that K:BB is worth keeping an eye on. And he’s got the XBH numbers you want too. Add in MIF positional value and he’s definitely very much of interest.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Renato Nunez
2 for 4 with his fifth homer.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Josh Vitters
1-3 so far, with a BB and a 3 run HR (#9)
by PrincetonCubs on Jul 21, 2025 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
Yep
The perfect game for him. Power and patience.
by Ryno G on Jul 22, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Some recent signs of life
And while he’s really struggled with control this year, he does have 72K in 62 innings. Looking forward to a chance to get my eyes on him.
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Zeke Devoss
in his fourth game in Boise, he’s stolen his 7th base. hitting .455.
by PrincetonCubs on Jul 21, 2025 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Billy Bob Thornton took Martin Perez into the change room of the dept store tonight
3.1 IP, 12 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 10:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Triple A is hard
A lot of people will likely disagree with me, but if you’re going to push a pitching prospect aggressively on a fast track to the majors, I think an aggressive push to AAA is much more helpful than an aggressive push to AA.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What are your thoughts on
the PCL vs. IL regarding that thesis?
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much neutral
The PCL has a lot of variation within it should be noted . . .sending a guy to, say, Iowa or Memphis isn’t going to put him in the same kind of environment as pitching out in Tucson, Salt Lake City, or Colorado Springs. So you do have to make that distinction, I suppose.
Environmental factors should play a small-to-non-existent factor in deciding whether to promote a player to a certain level, IMO. It seems pretty intuitive to me, honestly . . .you’re training these guys to pitch against the batter, not the park. Sometimes a promotion to a batter-friendly environment can prove to be a valuable training tool from this perspective. So I don’t think there’s much of a difference between the IL and PCL in this respect . . .but I am generally an advocate of not trying to shelter or coddle a young pitcher. Not like it gets easier for them at the highest level.
by mrkupe on Jul 21, 2025 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
My 13 year old daughter is visiting relatives in Austin
Discovered on phone today that she went to the Round Rock game. Would have been fun for her “old man”.
Turns out the only pitcher that made an impression on her was “Hamburger” (name recognition) who had a far superior game to Perez.
No scouting report from her on Perez!
Someday I’ll remind her that she saw the All Star Martin Perez pitch in AAA.
by Jersey Transplant on Jul 23, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
lucky girl
Dell Diamond is a terrific place to see a game.
by mrkupe on Jul 23, 2025 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that the reason we have kids...
to vicariously live out our lives?
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Daniel Ortiz
Scuffled a bit after his scorching April, but 2 for 4 with a double and a triple and seems to be making some adjustments: 9 of his 24 walks have come in July.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Jordany Valdespin
3 for 4 with 2 homers.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Ryan Wheeler? Rolling.
2 for 3 with a double, a homer and a walk. 9 of his last 12 games are multi-hit.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
is he back on the prospect map?
Top 150? a little higher?
he’s putting up very good numbers in the Southern League
by blue bulldog on Jul 22, 2025 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Way too high for me
C+ at best
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
he’s a 1B without spectacular power numbers in a system with quite an array of 1B prospects (Allen, Goldy, Borchering, Davidson). Not sure where he’d rank in that group, but probably no better than third.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
does anyone have scouting reports on his defense
at 3B? he’s played there almost exclusively this year, and while BA doesn’t seem to think he can be a 3B long term, i’m wondering if anyone else has a scouting report on him, or impressions of his defense
almost 900 OPS in the Southern League, and having just turned 23 makes him slightly below league average age i think. if he can actually stick at 3B, would that make him a legit prospect?
by blue bulldog on Jul 23, 2025 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Would be interested in some current takes too
I know that former reports weren’t exactly glowing (at least largely) & would think that him sticking at 3b in AA is largely due to the presence of ‘the man, the myth, the Goldschmidt’ at 1b on the same roster & probably the fact that there are a couple CI prospects on his heels in the CAL too that a lot of folks think are headed for 1b in all likelihood.
I think I said recently in one of these threads that he’s probably an extra bat but he might be very good in that capacity. You’re right; if he sticks at 3b & continues to hit while climbing the ladder, he’s pretty legitimate.
by Matt0330 on Jul 24, 2025 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably fifth
Or fourth if Brandon Allen is considered a major leaguer in earnest. I really like Matt Davidson’s stick at either 1b/3b & Bobby Borchering does have ample power & is showing improvement over the long haul.
I like Ryan Wheeler but there is something of a logjam of similar ‘bat first’ guys in the system & he almost certainly has the least power potential.
by Matt0330 on Jul 24, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick Johnson HR!
He’s back baby!
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 10:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Boxberger roughed up
0.1IP 3H 4R 3ER 1BB 1K.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
AAAA player or needs a change of scenery??
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.
by Savoy on Jul 22, 2025 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Needs a manager who will play him...
When COL decides that they are playing for 2012 (which should be around Aug. 1), Nelson should be promoted and play nearly every day, Ellis or no Ellis.
by dbreer23 on Jul 22, 2025 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Could say the same for EY Jr
Tracy is clearly one of the worst - if not THE worst - managers in the bigs.
by guru4u on Jul 22, 2025 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
change of scenery.
hate how COL has handled him
by daveh33 on Jul 22, 2025 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to be angry at a woodpecker for putting a hole in your tree
Getting angry at the Rockies for screwing up the development path of a young, talented player just seems like a waste of time…
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agnostic on Law
But that’s not the point at all, unless he’s somehow had a role in the absolute butcher job the Rockies have done in screwing with Iannetta, Stewart, Nelson, etc over the last few years.
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Had he played another position, I think Iannetta's the only one of those that there's a half decent argument for,
but as a catcher, I have no problem with the team getting capable alternates as I don’t want him ending up overused and going down the Russell Martin route where another team gets the rebound after a wash-out. Still having this kind of season from him a few years after his debut is kind of nice. The Rockies went the Jason Varitek route of slowly crafting him and so far it’s working out alright.
Every nationally recognized scouting publication outside of K-Law saw Nelson more as a future solid utility guy rather than a starter after a season and a half in the minors, how is the fact that he’s becoming exactly that a failure by the Rockies? Not every prospect is going to reach their ceiling, most don’t, that he hasn’t hit his floor is a good thing.
Same goes for Stewart, who quickly got the label of being an uncoachable primadonna outside the organization, but seems to be doing well enough in it to be given a fourth shot at proving he’s better than AAAA. Yeah he had/has talent, but he also has a pretty slow swing, and it’s getting exposed. The Rockies can only do so much to coax him to fix it. I think he’s the better change of scenery candidate than Nelson, but if the Rockies do keep him, who knows it could turn out to be a Chris Young in Arizona type of situation. Nobody seems to be labeling them a disaster in player development.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan O’Dowd has spent the last 12 months putting every piss-poor defensively-challenged over-the-hill hack he can get his hands on in the way of his young infielders. Even if they didn’t pan out, playing Stewart and Nelson every day this year would still be a better use of time and money than the parade of crap the Rockies have been leading into their organization.
I didn’t know or care that KLaw had been a big Nelson guy.
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rockies would have loved to play Nelson or especially Stewart in the MLB everyday, honestly they would.
O’Dowd’s invested a ton of bonus money and development time into them and if they gave the team a better chance of winning, he would. Just like I’m sure the Padres would love to play Anthony Rizzo or Kyle Blanks everyday this season rather than having to use Brad Hawpe and Ryan Ludwick.
And I guess if Rockies attendance figures were more like San Diego’s it would have been a bit easier to carry Stewart’s .143/.235/.209 line and wait for him to get fixed while the team tanked, or Nelson’s .250 OBP and questionable defense, but besides trying to develop these players for other richer teams to use when they get good, the Rockies were attempting to win this season as well. Frankly, that both Nelson and Stewart were demonstrably worse than “the parade of crap” at 25 and 26, respectively should be taken as a sign that maybe expectations are a bit high for them.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll disagree with the consensus here, having watched him in a majority of his MLB games thus far
and a good number in the minors, Nelson’s closer to AAAA right now than he is to a change of scenery type. That could change, there’s still room for a little development, but he’s really stagnated the last two years at a bench/AAA level rather than a MLB starting one.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah but he was too talented and still is young enough to become a regular MLB'er
maybe an interesting argument would be: how do guys go from a AAAA player to a MLB starter without switching teams? All the ones I can think of had to switch teams… Carlos Pena, Ben Zobrist, etc
by daveh33 on Jul 22, 2025 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Adrian Cardenas
1/2 HR so far. Scuffling of late, but still a fan.
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Nick Tepesch
6IP 7H 4R 4ER 2BB 9K and 1 HRA.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Breaking News: Wayne Gretzky's kid signed with the Cubs
Ya, I don’t give a shit either, LOL.
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$99 of course
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I do.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
So does Tony Gwynn
I was really hoping The Great One’s kid would wind up playing for Tony and the Aztecs.
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You had to figure he'd sign given how high he went
It surprised me, but the upside in the bat is there.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget about me Chris Parmelee
1/5, HR, .282
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I've all but forgotten
quad A type
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 22, 2025 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I always liked him for some reason
I live pretty close to the New Britian Rock Cats and I’ve seen him play a couple of times. He has a pretty good approach and seems like a mature hitter. That fact that he adds no value on D is a pretty big knock though
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by Lesterfan on Jul 22, 2025 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a 1B with mediocre power and no other skills
Those are guys you should forget about.
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, Parmelee is quite interesting because he has improved his K rate from 28% to 15% while moving from the Midwest League to the Eastern League. If his raw power turns into home runs, he could easily be a productive major league bench bat, perhaps more. Never count out guys who can make massive improvements to their games.
by limozeen on Jul 22, 2025 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Shiiiit
This is Parmelee’s age 23 season. He’s shown good power and projects for more. He’s got a great walk rate and is making solid contact. He might not be a top prospect anymore, but he’s certainly not someone to forget about.
by PissedMick on Jul 22, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not disagree with this
I just feel like He’s Jack Cust with less power, Jeff Ballsy Bailey - from the left side is his likely outcome, unless he suddenly develops into an above average defender from either 1B or RF…
I’m not sooo optimisitc….
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 22, 2025 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
prospect fatigue
Since he’s a prep draftee, it feels like he’s been around forever. If these guys don’t fly through the minors, they tend to get forgotten, by the likes of Baseball America no less than the average interested observer.
by mrkupe on Jul 23, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
C+ type..
Doesn’t walk much and not substantial power for a 3B.. I’d guess he will start a year til Cowart is ready and then become a utility guy or be traded.. I could envision 270/330/415 Peak maybe with more BA.. In todays MLB thats not too bad but I’d envision that the 3B position will improve dramatically quickly.. He does have the 2 coolest nicknames in the minors though.. Lucho and The Mayor.. Those are awesome
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
More Power
He hits so many doubles, it’s crazy.
by LionsFan10 on Jul 22, 2025 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Reymond Fuentes
2/2 so far with a homer
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 10:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
John Singleton HR
Rumors that Phils are willing to trade him.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 10:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Phils don't have enough in the farm to get Pence from the Stros
by High and Inside on Jul 21, 2025 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i suppose...
you’re assuming that they won’t give up cosart . how about a deal including colvin and/or may along with singleton???
by mathwonk on Jul 21, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
the statement that the Phils don’t have enough would imply that their prospects aren’t good or numerous enough, not that they’re untouchable. An odd assertion either way.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
i was trying to being somewhat sarcastic. they have probably 5 or so top 100 prospects…
by mathwonk on Jul 21, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The weirdest thing
is that this a discussion of Hunter Pence. You’d think we were talking about Hanley Ramirez or King Felix. lol Pence is a fine player, but he’s a non-elite COF. Even with two more years of control he’s not some extreme lineup makeover.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true
The way a lot of the media scuttlebutt is crafted, you’d think that Dave Winfield in his prime was potentially on the market instead of, you know, Hunter Pence.
by Matt0330 on Jul 24, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Pence's name
was mentioned during the Reds game, with the assertion again that he’s gong to fetch a king’s ransom. I guess when you comp him to the other names being floated, like Beltran (a clear rental), he looks shinier than he might be in a vacuum.
by blackoutyears on Jul 24, 2025 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would Cosart be untouchable?
I don’t think he’s THAT kind of prospect.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Law just said yesterday he thought Cosart had #1 stuff but pretty big concerns over his delivery and health (which could put him out of baseball). To assume he reaches his ceiling therefore deeming him untouchable would be a huge organizational mistake. I would sell high on guys like that; I would get burned occasionally but I think it would turn out to be the correct decision more often than not (watch Cosart hit his ceiling now haha).
by jfish26101 on Jul 22, 2025 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I forget who made the comp
John Manuel maybe? But someone compared Cosart to Jason Knapp when the Phillies dealt him away. I don’t think Knapp ever had Cosart’s raw stuff, but I think that’s an apt comparison.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it was Goldstein who said that
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
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by hero66 on Jul 22, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
someone compared Cosart to Jason Knapp
Yeah, I saw that too.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So true
I still think in the end Cosart becomes an All-Star level closer. The injury concerns and delivery, coupled with the inconsistency from start to start, make me think his stuff will play up a lot more in the pen.
by guru4u on Jul 22, 2025 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
umm
I think you misinterpreted my post. I don’t think he’s untouchable. Indeed, I would trade cosart (plus some others) for pence in a heart beat. I was implying that the phillies do have the prospects to get pence.
by mathwonk on Jul 22, 2025 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well yeah, they do
I was just wondering why you excluded Cosart. I don’t think he’s really separated himself from the rest of that pack.
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
???
You’re kidding, right? They have a ton of power arms, which HOU is almost comically short on. Singleton and Cosart would be a good start, though my perception is that PHI may be selling high on both.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
sure they do
Jarrod Cosart
Jesse Biddle
Brody Colvin
John Singleton
These are some fine prospects. Not saying Phils will be willing to part with all of them, but there some pieces there that could potentially make it work.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Considering the Astros' own prospect style,
strike thrower with solid average stuff, I’d offer them Jon Pettibone. I wonder if Worley is generating any trade value. Blanton’s health makes trading him dicey, but if someone was interested…
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Cesar Puello HR
Very disappointing year.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not sure why,
but I was very wary of him coming off last season. Seemed like a lot of the power was pure projection. He’s still really, really young for his profile, though, and could break out pretty easily.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by doublestix on Jul 21, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it bad that I like Vaughn more?
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
no
i liked him more in the offseason too
by PrincetonCubs on Jul 22, 2025 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
You are on a roll.
Dietrich intruiges me.
by mr. maniac on Jul 21, 2025 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Positional questions
I wonder if he’s loosened up as a hitter at all. He got really stiff by his draft year.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
He’s a very interesting and promising prospect.
by John Black on Jul 21, 2025 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah.
He is a little old for the league and his K rates are high, but he has shown more power with the bat than most expected.
by mr. maniac on Jul 22, 2025 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
23??
Is that speed or just taking advantage of pitchers?
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by hero66 on Jul 21, 2025 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
decent speed that plays up because he is smart.. I played with him for a little while and can tell you that he has one of the sweetest lefty swings I have ever seen
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by miketrout on Jul 22, 2025 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesus Aguilar...time to start paying attention?
Name to keep an eye on. (just turned) 21 year old 1st baseman for Cleveland Low A Lake County went 4-6 tonight with his 20th HR and 4 RBIs (71 on the year). He’s still raw and if he can get the walks up then he’s got a chance to be a legit RH power bat.
by cursedcleveland on Jul 21, 2025 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
Somebody
mentioned him the other day and he is interesting. I’m actually more concerned with the strikeout rate than the walks. Walk rate is fringy/acceptable at 8.8%, but a 25% whiff rate is not.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I meant he needs to cut down on K’s. Hopefully the learning curve continues. Something has clearly clicked this year and if it continues then he could finally be the RH power bat this organization has lacked.
by cursedcleveland on Jul 21, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Garin Cechinni
2-3, 2b. Hitting 282/368/482 with a 14/19 BB/K in 110 abs.
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by Lesterfan on Jul 21, 2025 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
Is it fair to say hes legit now?
Good command and a bunch of k’s
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on your definition of legit
He’s certainly an interesting prospect. Possibly a B grade guy if he keeps it up. The scouting report from Churchill was positive enough.
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http://prospectinsider.com/nicolino.php
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by Jeff Reese on Jul 22, 2025 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
does anyone know where some video of him is?
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 21, 2025 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
...
these numbers would be extreme enough if he was in GCL, but he’s in a mostly college league.
by Alfamale on Jul 21, 2025 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a prospect
but Jose Reyes with his 16th triple of the year. Sheesh.
by blackoutyears on Jul 21, 2025 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
His body type reminds me a lot of Alfonso Soriano
Really wiry strong
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 22, 2025 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen him?
That’s not the picture I’ve gotten of him from the reports at all, but I haven’t actually seen him play (or stand for that matter).
by dnc on Jul 22, 2025 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw a video of him taking BP
And Alfonso Soriano popped immediately to mind. I think I’ve dropped that comp on him on here a couple of times, just in terms of body and swing.
by gogotabata on Jul 22, 2025 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Seen the video
I get that sort of impression as well
by hybrid on Jul 22, 2025 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Some Padres
James Darnell- 3-5 2b and 3bb in double header
Jaff Decker- 2-4 in first game back since getting the last two games off
Jedd Gyorko 2-4
Luis Domoromo-2-3 2b
Adys Portillo 5.2 3 h 2bb 7k
Raymond Fuentes- 4-5 1bb hr 3b
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by thepadfather on Jul 22, 2025 2:44 AM EDT reply actions
Reymond
Two XBH in one game. He’s pretty much done for the month now, isn’t he?
And seriously, could the Padres go for ONE position player who uses a standard spelling of his first name? R*e*ymond
Jed*d*
J*a*ff
Don*a*van
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by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Jorge Alfaro
2 for 3 with his first walk in a month.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:47 AM EDT reply actions
#TheLegend
He took the walk because he felt bad for the pitcher.
by guru4u on Jul 22, 2025 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He is so nice.
I figured it was an accident.
by blackoutyears on Jul 22, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Brett Jackson
0-5, 3 ks
now hitting .172 with 13 ks in 8 games for aaa, nothing to be worried about but def. not the hot streak he needed to get called up
by gobruins12345 on Jul 22, 2025 8:46 AM EDT reply actions
christian friedrich
5.2 ip 8 ha 2 ra 2 bb 4 k, 2.67 go/ao
The numbers on the year certainly don’t wow you, but he’s been healthy and I have to assume the stuff is still there…still remember him shutting down the rox opening day lineup in coors. He doesn’t get much love anymore, but I still see a #2 ceiling with high floor. Really wish they would give him a shot soon, I mean why not…rox fans react to me!
by St.Steve on Jul 22, 2025 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
He could see a September call-up
I think the Rockies seem to have him on a mid 2012 plan right now, although he’ll get a strong look in ST to replace Aaron Cook’s slot in the rotation. He could have been their midseason call-up this season had Nicasio not blown past him.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
he's gotta be better
Than trotting out cook, why waste his bullets??
by St.Steve on Jul 22, 2025 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
For 2011, it's a matter of dollars, playing out the end of Cook's contract and hoping to trade him.
Cook’s not going to be going anywhere at the normal deadline in July, but given that his contract should easily clear waivers (if it doesn’t, he’ll just be let go to the claiming team) and that he’ll be a FA after the season, he should be a prime candidate for a waiver trade in August. So long as he can rebound a bit over his next few starts, the Rockies might be able to get something of value for him then.
by Rox Girl on Jul 22, 2025 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Balcom-Miller: 6.2 IP, 7 H, 5K, 0 BB, 0 R. Not the sexiest prospect, but outstanding ground ball rate and sneaky stuff. I think he’s going to be good.
by limozeen on Jul 22, 2025 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
That was one hell of a steal of a trade… The Rockies got 8.1 innings of crappy Manny Delcarmen performance for him.
by realitypolice on Jul 22, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Julio Rodriguez: 7 IP, 3 H, 7 K, 1 BB, 1 ER/R.
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