2011 Minor League Player of the Year Poll
2011 MINOR LEAGUE PLAYER OF THE YEAR Community Poll
*No one who has exceeded rookie qualifications or who will exceed them (Brett Lawrie, Paul Goldschmidt for certain) is eligible.
*No one from short-season ball. There will be a separate contest for that.
The nominees:
Gary Brown, OF, Giants
Vince Catricala, 3B, Mariners
Bryce Harper, OF, Nationals
Ryan Lavarnway, C, Red Sox
Rymer Liriano, OF, Padres
Devin Mesoraco, C, Reds
Will Middlebrooks, 3B, Red Sox
Jurickson Profar, SS, Rangers
Anthony Rizzo, 1B, Padres
Mike Trout, OF, Angels
There were some very tough calls here. I didn't list Oscar Taveras due to his injury problem but he was another candidate. Trout might end up exceeding the rookie limits but it will be close. I will keep this poll open a couple of days, and if there is not a runaway winner we can do a runoff between the top few candidates.
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missing players
Am I missing something here? Is this just for offensive minor league player of the year - no Matt Moore, Teheran, etc. etc. I’m going to assume that is the case for now, but will wait to vote until I get clarification.
by jpjazzman on Sep 12, 2025 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Separate awards...
It was mentioned in an earlier post that there would be both MiLB Player & Pitcher Awards, as well as an addendum of a Short-Season category (hence, no Sano, Lindsey, etc.)
by dbreer23 on Sep 12, 2025 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No Starling Marte?
Guy had a monster season at a level above Brown and at a younger age.
by aso513 on Sep 12, 2025 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Sorry for complaining
. . . but, just for the sake of discussion, is ity kinda strange to exclude somebody who was so good in the minor leagues that he became a major league star already? Brett Lawrie was clearly the best player in the minor leagues this season, especially in the context of how he backup up his performance in the big leagues.
If Mesoraco, or any of these guys were as good they wouldn’t have rookie eligibility left either would they? He pushed and faught his way to the big leagues early and, he deserves to be voted the best player.
I voted for Bryce Harper, by the way :)
Just my opinion.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
If Lawrie had played as well as he did, but was called up in mid-June, would you feel the same?
Point being, if he surpasses rookie eligibility at some point in 2011, it shouldn’t matter how much time he spent in the minors. It may seem unfair, but there is some advantage to spending more time in the minors for this particular award.
It’s also quite subjective (as is this type of award, I suppose) to say that Lawrie was clearly the best player in the minors…I’d guess that many folks would disagree with that statement.
And let’s not declare Lawrie a MLB star just yet. Lots of guys light it up after they are first called up - see Jefferies, Gregg (1988) vs. Zimmerman, Ryan (2005) - both were heralded as can’t miss prospects - one is panning out as a star, the other did not…and Jefferies was actually much more heralded than Zmmerman. I like Lawrie’s chances to succeed, but he hasn’t established himself just yet. I want to see how he handles his first prolonged slump and his first full-season in MLB.
by dbreer23 on Sep 12, 2025 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Replied below
but, why are we so concerned with wther sonmebody is technically a rookie or not? Do we hate major leaguers and just love minor leaguers around here? lol
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the name of the site is Minor League Ball - lol
j/k
by dbreer23 on Sep 12, 2025 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
touche' beerman
. . . I knew that was comning! I counter with the fact that what, 90 percent, of the discussion is about projecting minor leaguers into major league performance. So it could be interpreted as being more about the major leagues,m than the minors really.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
and Lawrie was a minor leaguer in 2011 and put up a 1.060 OPS
he didn’t play enough to merit player of the year though. BTW - the fact he is no longer a rookie should mean he isn’t eligible next year and shouldn’t impact this year IMO.
by pedrophile on Sep 12, 2025 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
But Pedro
All of the kids who started the season in the minors had the goal of making the major leagues right? So the ones who did it, and especially became good major leaguers, are the best players in the minor leagues right?
Lawrie, Altuve, and Dustin Ackley were the best players in the minor leagues unless you can make a complellubng argument that someone was held back that would have been just as good./ They should be elligible for any significant vote for minor league player of the year because they started the season in the minor leagues in my opinion.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i think
the only play that should be counted is that that happened in the minors. so if you are only going to look at their minor league numbers than that’s fine. but that fact that they have less playing time to go by makes it harder for them to win (similar to players that are injured in the majors not really being considered for major awards eg. Jose Reyes. Or people’s arguments last year against poset for ROY being that he had less playing time in the majors than Heyward)
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 12, 2025 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry but that doesnt make sense
The GOAL of all the players in the upper minors, and even some in the lower minors, is to make the big leagues. Making it there is a pretty strong indicator that they were ex- cell-ent. To exclude them is reralkly kinda weird.
Nobody was better ibn the minor league this year than Jose Altuve, by the way.
A comparable argument is that if Jutin Verlander was so good that he was called up to another planet and taken away from the Tigers at the All-Star break.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't trying to make the point
that them being called up was contrary to them being good minor leaguers. obviously the two go hand in hand. but the award is for MINOR LEAGUE PLAYER of the year. which to me only qualifies whatever it is you did in the minor leagues. obviously, guys who played a longer season in the minors will have an advantage.
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 12, 2025 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think they do
Sice a team doesnt care enough to leave a player in one spot - or in the minors at all - why should we?? If a player played enough to demonstrate how good he is (Altuve hit .389 in 87 games, enough said) then, we can recognize him cant we. Why do we need totals? Who cares?
Youi keep emphasising minor league player of the year but, Ackley, Lawrie, and Altuve were all excellent minor league players thisd year and frankly, I think major league sucess supports thier case whether it is fair to the other players or not - tie goes to the big leaguer!
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess
this conversation is kind of irrelevant cause the poll is what it is. the only thing i would say is that if you want to include altuve… there are a ton of other guys that fall into the same category as him. great minor league numbers but also spent significant time in the big leagues. Brandon Belt for example was hitting .320 with a .461 OBP and .989 OPS. do you think all of them should be included as well?
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 12, 2025 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course!
Thats my whole point Buddy! Im not just baised towards Altuve. Obviously belt was one of the best players in the minors this year as well - key word here is obviously!
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If Mesoraco, or any of these guys were as good they wouldn’t have rookie eligibility left either would they?
That’s overly simplistic. Some organizations move players quickly through the minors. Some single step guys all the way up the ladder, regardless of how well they’re doing. Some guys are blocked positionally for a season until a contract expires or someone gets traded.
Just saying not all situations are equal, and to treat them as such is a little intellectually dishonest.
by Cormican on Sep 12, 2025 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see that
. . . but, its also could be considered dishonest to not include someone who got called up - the other side of the coin. This isnt a prospect list, its a question “Who was the best player?”
For me to say Mesoraco isnt as good as Lawrie (or Jose Altuve) becuase he disnt get called up may be intellectually dishonest but, then again, Im not excluding anybody from the question asked. Im saying “include ALL the players who played a good portion of the season in the minor leagues this year”
It may not be fair to Mesoraco, or someone else but, Jose Altuve and Brett Larie were in the running best players in the minors this season, and backed it up in the big leagues.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice list. I wish Joey Terdoslavich had made the list
Terdoslavich ranked third in the Brave minor league organization in home runs (20), second in slugging percentage (.526), second in total bases (254), first in extra base hits (74), and fourth in batting average (.286) and RBI (82). Not to mention he broke 65 year old Carolina League record with 52 Doubles. Pretty stout numbers, IMO. Plus he gets +1 for the name.
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by ArmyITSpec on Sep 12, 2025 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
Lol
Names are totally subjective as to wether they are “good” or not, thats why they are fun but, I dont see how a guy with “Turd” in his name gets any plusses for his name. Maybe, just for being funny I guess :) Nice numbers though.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It gets a plus because not everyone can have “turd” in there name and still be cool about it without going completely insane. lol
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by ArmyITSpec on Sep 12, 2025 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ha ha ha
good point Man :)
It helps that he is a good player, I suppose.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with nmost of this Buddy :)
If he isnt an established player yet, then why cant he get the minor league player of the year award? Ha ha ha, seriously though.
Sure its subjective, it goes without saying (even though I did say, at the end there) that this is my opinion. I think it is fairly clear that if one of current American League’s best hitters was in the minors for more than half the season, that he was the best player in the minors. LOL
Jefferies was a real good major league hitter for quite a while Man.
I can see where you are coming from If a guy played like 8 games in the minor leagues, and was called up but, Lawrie had a great minor league season! The only thing stopping from being eligible for votes hyere is that he was TOO GOOD!? Rizzo, for instance should get no votes should he - just because he got mailed back to AAA? Its not a big deal, its just a complicated criterion for me.
If we are talking guys who haven’t sniffed the big leagues yet, thats fine - I get it. If we are talking the very best ballplayers who played a lot of minor league baseball this season - Brett Lawrie
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
One minor thing... no pun intended
Of course we are all entitled to our own opinion, but here’s the root of what I was getting at above, re: the term star …
“Jefferies was a real good major league hitter for quite a while Man.”
I never said he wasn’t a solid MLB regular, he just wasn’t a star player, even if he was elected as an A-S twice…but he had just as good of a debut for NYM in 1988 as Lawrie is this year. On the flip side, Robin Ventura was horrible in his first year in CHW, and he was (eventually) arguably a star in MLB. Determining stardom after even a full season in MLB is not easy to do, even more so after only 100-150 ABs.
My disagreement was in your saying that Lawrie was already a MLB star, based on what he’s done in TOR so far. My point above was that Jefferies was one of the first modern uber-prospects, tore it up in MLB in 1988, and then flopped by the standards built up for him, and the same thing could happen to Lawrie, even if he does become a solid MLB player (a la Jefferies).
Again, I don’t necessarily think that will happen, I just think you might be jumping the gun on declaring Lawrie as anything other than having a good debut.
by dbreer23 on Sep 12, 2025 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I get what you are saying
. . . I don’t think Im jumping the gun though. He’s going to be a big star . . . in my opinion.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony Rizzo & Mike Trout
These two will likely no longer be technical rookies in a couple of weeks assuming semi-regular playing time. If Paul Goldschmidt & Brett Lawrie aren’t eligible, these 2 will probably be in the same boat.
(Am going Bryce Harper anyways)
by Matt0330 on Sep 12, 2025 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
Did Mesoraco really have a better year than d'Arnaud?
Mesoraco(23): (AAA) 499 PA 15 HR .289/.371/.484 - .374 wOBA 132 wRC+
d’Arnaud(22): (AA) 466 PA 21 HR .311/.371/.542 - .402 wOBA 150 wRC+
by Gadfly26 on Sep 12, 2025 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
D'arnaud
That’s a good point, although nobody nominated him in the original discussion thread.
by John Sickels on Sep 12, 2025 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
AA, isn’t AAA
It’d be interesting to see how many players stall in AAA, after a good season in AA? We always think of players stalling when they reach AA but, It happens.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
A+ to AA is a tougher jump, but sure there are guys who stall, but it’s often a K rate issue that stalls them. d’Arnaud’s K rate is high, but not the 30% high that usually stalls guys.
by Cormican on Sep 12, 2025 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Never heard of a hitter stalling in Vegas
Look at Hechavarria’s numbers since he made the jump.
by Matthew Mueller on Sep 12, 2025 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh
That isnt exactly what I am talking about. I’m saying that not every single player who has a good season in AA has one in AAA. Numbers looking superficially good isn’t really “value” anyways, which is what we are talking about.
I’ll say this though, talk of Brett Lawrie’s inflated Vegas numbers sure has died down lately huh?
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Gary Brown on this list is a huge stretch IMO
He had a good season in the Cal league, but it was nothing spectacular for a 22 year old and there were guys in the Cal league at the same age who were better. Gyorko for instance was far outperforming Brown before getting promoted.
by BFDC on Sep 12, 2025 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
Lol
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by ArmyITSpec on Sep 12, 2025 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
with the bat
Brown is potentially a plus defender at a premium position, and a guy who can add some value on the base paths with his speed.
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by shikantaza on Sep 12, 2025 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No way should Brown be ahead of Harper.
by cookiedabookie on Sep 12, 2025 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
based on pure potential maybe not
but based on what they’ve actually done this year i don’t see why not. Harper did well in the SAL but he didn’t exactly mash when he was moved up…
guess it depends how you interpret minor league player of the year, as was being discussed just below this.
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 12, 2025 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown's performance this year was pretty fantastic
If you just look at his numbers, and the fact that he plays a premium position in center field.
That said, I don’t really see the argument for him over Trout, her performed even better, at the same position, as a much younger player, and a level higher in the minors.
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by OremLK on Sep 12, 2025 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He may have played too much baseball :)
You gotta love an argument that includes the possibility that a guy like Trout - who just turned twenty and is just getting his feet wet in the big leagues - might be too experienced to deserve an award.
. . . like grisled veterans Jose Altuve (who is 21 and hit .389, slugged .591, and played a good second base) and the ancient Dustin Ackley ( who is 23 and hit .303 with a .421 on base percentage). These guys were minor leaguers just a few months agoyet they can’t be player of the year. I just do not understand that.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree Whole-heartedly!!!
As someone who has seen Brown multiple times this season, I can honestly say that he wasn’t near the top of the most impressive players in MiLB. Yeah, he has great speed and good contact skills, but I honestly think his speed is a little over-stated, and his power numbers this year are a mirage. Furthermore, he can range far with his speed, but his arm won’t keep many players from tagging up on him third-to-home. I’ll be greatly surprised if his ceiling is ever beyond someone like Juan Pierre. Just my opinion from my view point in the stands.
by wanderinredsfan on Sep 12, 2025 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Honest question
When voting should we vote for the “Minor league player of the year”, are we voting for the player who provided the most value to his team (s) during the season,, the player who we think will be the best major leaguer, or a combination of the two?
I’m not asking who I should vote for, I’m asking “what do you meen by minor league player of the year?” . Do you just want to see how people interpret the question or do you have a specific criterion in mind?
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
in my opinion
it should be the player that had the best year as a minor leaguer. if you go into speculation about who will make the major leaguer… well there’s no way to know that. the way i understood the award was that it was the best player in the minors based on what they actually did as opposed to what people think they are going to or are capable of doing.
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 12, 2025 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
Right
I guess, except we already know that Jose Altuve and Brett Lawrie are good big leaguers, as well as great minor leaguers.
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted for him 628-ab, .336-avg, .407-obp, 14-hr, 80-rbi, 53-sb
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by Calvn n Hobbs on Sep 12, 2025 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
He's had quite a year
. . . and since yhis vote is sorta like the average Heisman Trophy, why not? No Lawrie, no Altuve, no Ackley, no Brandon Belt, ok.
Im going to start a poll next for AL CY young but, no Verlander or Weaver on the ballot ;)
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by casejud on Sep 12, 2025 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I went with the son of Judeska and Chesmond
but cases could be made for anyone on this list
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by Eric Prince on Sep 13, 2025 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
I'm with casejud
that having 100 or so less at bats shouldn’t significantly take away from how a player performed in the minors. All things considered, I’d have to give the edge to Paul Goldschmidt over Lawrie though.
by RedHopeful on Sep 13, 2025 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
Close call
I think I’d side with you as well but the way Brett Lawrie performed (when considering his age especially) is tough to overlook. That being said, Paul Goldschmidt’s AA campaign was awesome and he’s a legitimate prospect as well.
i don’t know why those two were omitted while Mike Trout ‘plays on’, but those 3 would be my most likely picks. Having not considered them (or Anthony Rizzo) due to the rules of this exercise, I went with Bryce Harper.
by Matt0330 on Sep 13, 2025 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
I did exactly the same. The “spirit” as it were, of this award seems to preclude anybody who played in the majors significantly - yet also guys who played short-season ball. Its a fairly small window there - High A and kids who just touched AA.
I think any sort of award for minor league player of the year should recognize that reaching the majors is the actual goal of the minor leagues and they should actually be given preference, not excluded.
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