8/26 Minor League Thread
These things are always good- Bowden, Bumgarner, Kiker v Inman, Tanner, Jake McGee!, and Jason Knapp are scheduled to take the mound today- but I guess the real reason for this is to announce that the A's Chris Carter is making his AAA debut tonight.
2-3 so far, with a Double and 4 RBI. Cheers to the Black Deer!
Madison went 7-4-0-0-1-2 To the face of Garden-Haters. Though I can hear the bitching about the K's already-lol
Mike Stanton goes yard!, Eric Young got called up and is playing CF
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EYJ
looks lost on the basepaths
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by gore51 on Aug 27, 2025 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kasey Kiker
4.1 inn, 3 ER, 5 H, 2 K, 4 BB
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by gore51 on Aug 27, 2025 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Knapp
2 inn, 3 ER, 4 H, 2 K, 4 BB
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by gore51 on Aug 27, 2025 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where does Chris Carter land on the Communities 100?
by asyouwish33 on Aug 27, 2025 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Community's 100
I believe that is correct…it’s late.
by asyouwish33 on Aug 27, 2025 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fringe top 25 for me
only 1B ahead of him for me are Logan Morrison, Justin Smoak, Jesus Montero (assuming he switches) and he’s right around yonder alonso
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by gore51 on Aug 27, 2025 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
35-40
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by Frederick0220 on Aug 27, 2025 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes better than that. For some reasn people dont believe in that guy.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Aug 27, 2025 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain his weakness
Is it really just defense?
He has massive massive power and only strikes out less than 20% of the time, while maintaining a very strong BB rate. How is Morrison ahead of him? or Alonso or Freeman (another one I see around him a lot) anywhere in his ballpark. And honestly it’s been two years. At what point does performance trump scouting reports? Is Smoak still definitely ahead of Carter?
by Galt on Aug 27, 2025 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea why theres no love for Carter.
Hes a absolute monster.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Aug 27, 2025 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think people tend to cling to their initial perceptions of a guy
Morrison, Alonso, and Freeman have solidified their reputation as top prospects, whereas Carter came into the season with some legitimate question marks; his ability to make consistent contact chief among them.
Having said that, I don’t think prospect lists have done a good enough job of incorporating positional adjustments and defense. If Carter can manage to become a league average LF, though, he’s got the potential to be a 4-5 WAR player.
by CapgrasDelusion on Aug 27, 2025 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's just not that good of a hitter
Last year, he showed legitimately huge power, but nobody was sure if that was a function of a development of his skill or the league. This year, however, though his stats have skyrocketed, that’s largely due to an astounding spike in his BABIP. If his .406 BABIP goes down to even .330, he would have an .860 OPS - very good, but not sensational for a guy who will at best be a decent 1B. If it drops to what it was last year, then his OPS would be .790. He’s a good prospect, certainly, for the reasons you mentioned, and his potential is quite high - but he’s not an enormous prospect
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by OldProspects on Aug 27, 2025 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've said it before but I truly believe
that Carter will never get his due respect until he hits, and hits consistently at the major league level. Every year people have reasons that he won’t be a star in the majors, even with his production at each level. Last season he hit 39 homeruns, but that was instantly discounted by many because he played in the Cal League. People questioned his ability to hit for a solid average because of his K rate, and rightfully so. However last year was his worst as far as BA is concerned, but the production was still there because of his enormous power. This year he has cut his K rate substantially, while maintaing if not improving his BB rate (don’t have time to look up the exact numbers right now) and the results are there. Obviously nobody expects Carter to continue what he’s done this season at the major league level but I really see no reason not to consider him one of the better OFFENSIVE prospects in the game right now. He’s having a massive season and regardless of the reasons people want to give the production has been there at every stop (career MiLB OPS of .928). He’s not the hitter that he has been this year, but he’s also better then a lot of people on this site give him credit for.
by JPShark on Aug 27, 2025 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
His SLG% is higher this year than it was last year. All while raising BA and cutting K rate.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Aug 27, 2025 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's in my top 25 right now
that’s a very good prospect. i was agreeing with the “he’s not enormous” part.
by daveh33 on Aug 27, 2025 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct me if I'm wrong
But BABIP tends to be low for players with high HR totals. Any flukiness in his high BABIP is at least partially offset by his “penalty” for hitting a lot of HR’s. And in fact, if Midland didn’t have such a weird left field fence, his HR totals would probably be much higher, bringing his BABIP down while raising his SLG and maintaining or raising his BA and OBP.
by ozzman99 on Aug 27, 2025 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if that is true
Career BABIP for top 10 current 2009 MLB HR leaders:
Pujols: .320
Reynolds: .357
Pena: .292
Howard: .331
Fielder: .307
Gonzalez: .311
Dunn: .296
Teixeira: .310
Branyan: .305
Hill: .311
MLB avg BABIP hovers around .300 I believe. So there are only two guys on that list with BABIPs less than average (and even then not by very much) with the rest comfortably above. A few are even well above.
by aCone419 on Aug 27, 2025 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure mlb avg BABIP is closer to .330
I remember reading that the other day, … just not sure where. but i think it makes more sense
by daveh33 on Aug 27, 2025 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
it’s around .305-.310
by richieabernathy on Aug 27, 2025 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs has it at .302 for this season, .303 last
Just go to a player profile and click “show averages.”
by aCone419 on Aug 27, 2025 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
I’m proven wrong. Not the first time.
I just figured, if you take 2 guys with the same number of AB, H, K, and SF, the guy with more HR will have the lower BABIP. And Carter left the Texas League tied for the lead in HR, despite playing in a park that suppresses HR. He also had the lead in 2B. It’s reasonable to believe that in a neutral park, he’d have more HR, fewer 2B, and a lower BABIP, so his .406 BABIP is not as flukey as it appears at first, and his .296 BABIP last year may have been artificially low.
That’s not to say that .406 is closer to his “true” BABIP than .296, I’m just saying that it may not be as lucky as it seems.
by ozzman99 on Aug 27, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just figured, if you take 2 guys with the same number of AB, H, K, and SF, the guy with more HR will have the lower BABIP.
Well, sure, in that hypothetical it would be true. But guys who hit a ton of HRs typically hit the ball harder than most, and hard hit balls are more likely to be hits, and thus a higher BABIP. Or so the theory goes…
by aCone419 on Aug 27, 2025 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're wrong
HR is a positive correlate with BABIP. Players who hit home runs tend, for obvious reasons, to hit balls harder, and velocity of batted balls is a tremendously important part of BABIP.
It’s true that reduced home runs tends to mean that the balls that would have been home runs are instead hit very close to the wall (and thus are likely to be XBH anyway), but this effect is more than canceled out by the effect of big-time HR hitters hitting the ball harder.
In any event, though, carping about his decreased HR totals is fairly asinine, as a. Midland is a park which does not yield a lot of home runs, and b. he’s leading the league, or was last time I checked.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 27, 2025 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
In any event, though, carping about his decreased HR totals is fairly asinine, as a. Midland is a park which does not yield a lot of home runs, and b. he’s leading the league, or was last time I checked.
My point is, he went from a park that gives up a lot of HR’s to one that doesn’t give up many at all, and that explains at least a portion of the difference in his BABIP between last year and this year.
by ozzman99 on Aug 27, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No hes not a good hitter....
Riiighhttt.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Aug 27, 2025 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't your BABIP generally higher
If you hit a lot of line drives?
"Chicks dig the long ball, although fat chicks will settle for warning track power" - Nick Diamond
by hero66 on Aug 27, 2025 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
high requirements
A guy with a .250 isolated slugging and 15%+ BB rate is going to be a valuable major leaguer even if he’s just a mediocre outfielder/1B.
Take away Youkilis and Derek Lee’s defense and they are still very valuable. Hell, Jim Thome put up a hall of fame career as a DH with those numbers.
by Galt on Aug 27, 2025 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could see that
From a month ago, even during carter’s hot streak…BP ‘s Goldstein mentioned scouts saying carter still cant hit breaking pitches and has holes in his swing. So either he’s patient enough to destroy fastballs or very lucky.
On the flipside, A’s at least have some hitters on the way with wallace, carter, cunningham, cardenas by late 2010…hopefully better than the previous group of sweeney, buck, barton, etc
by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 27, 2025 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
F##ing ridicolous!
It isnt even remotely logical to think that Chris Carter hasnt shown an IMMENSE improvement in his ability to make hard contact.
He probably had a lot of abilitty, worked really hard in the offseason, and got better.
No way to “prove it” really but nobody else can either but, I just dont believe you go to AAball and “get lucky”- especially with the corresponding drop in Ks.
Hes improved and I doubt luck has anuthing to do with it.
by casejud on Aug 27, 2025 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably still has some trouble hitting breaking balls
But he’s done an excellent job of learning to lay off them more.
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by hero66 on Aug 27, 2025 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Echo
This is exactly what Im lead to believe whats going on based on writeups and reports. I think the best way to analyze The Black Deer is just to see him live and document/post here his results to breaking pitches whenever possible. Johns video and writeup was very helpful, Carters approach and swing looked very smooth and his eye was pretty good too. TBD MVP!!!
by ChalupaCabrera on Aug 27, 2025 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Black Deer?
Two things:
1. I hope not, and
2. That’s even more annoying a nickname than players usually get.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 27, 2025 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take anything over the inevitable
C-Cart, CC, Vern-Cart/name derivative.
by walk off bunt on Aug 27, 2025 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Withrow
5 innings 6 Hits 2 ER 0 Walks 5 Ks
by matthewmafa on Aug 27, 2025 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael Main is alive! :)
Last night in AZL rehab: 1IP 3K. KG said he was hitting 93. Great for him… hopefully he is fully over the viral infection.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2025 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rangers
Joe Wieland: 5.0IP 7H 3R 3ER 2BB 6K 0HR
Leury Garcia: 3-3 BB 2R
Miguel Velazquez: 1-5 2RBI 2K
Juan Grullon: 3.2IP 4H 3R 3ER 1BB 2K 1HR
Robbie Erlin: 2.0IP 3H 1R 1ER 0BB 3K 0HR
Engel Beltre (AZL rehab): 1-2 2R HBP SB
Tomas Telis: 1-4 3B 2RBI BB
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2025 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I posted this over at LSB, but
Wieland’s ERA looks awful, and way higher than last year, but I think it should be chalked up to the horrible defense he pitches in front of. His FIP (on firstinning) is nearly identical to last year, and his K/BB and GB rates still look good.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 27, 2025 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carter now 3-5 with 4 RBIs
Grant Desme 2-4 with a HR. His 29th to go with his 39 stolen bases.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Aug 27, 2025 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jay Jackson
is still doing his penance in Daytona. 5 ip, 5 h, 1 bb, 3 r, 1 unearned, 11 K’s, 1 HBP. If Tennessee makes the postseason, I hope they bump Jackson back up. That said, tis better to send a message early than late, particularly to a prized prospect.
Josh Vitters - 1/3, 1 r, 1 bb. .247/.272/.370. Considering the time he’s missed this year, I’m glad the cubs are sending him to AFL.
Casey Coleman - 6 ip, 5 h, 2 bb, 3 K’s, 1 R. A very workmanlike arm had a very workmanlike outing.
Tyler Colvin - 2/4, CS, PO. .306/.345/.507. I have a serious love/hate issue with Colvin, but I imagine so do many Cubs fans.
by toonsterwu on Aug 27, 2025 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penance?
What happened?
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by OldProspects on Aug 27, 2025 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy Otero
I normally don’t really pay much attention to DSL numbers, but this kid garners some attention. Otero turned 17 in June, and finished among the league’s leaders in ERA (0.84) and strikeouts (93 in just 64 IP). The 5’9" Panamian lefty dominated the DSL with low 90’s fastball, a plus curve and is said to have a very aggressive approach. His stuff is supposed to be in line with his numbers, and if that’s the case, watch out for this guy. Otero is way ahead of where Randall Delgado was when he pitched in the DSL, and the Braves sent him straight to Danville, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them do the same with this kid. He was the youngest pitcher in the Braves organization this year, and the youngest player named to the DSL All-Star team, in fact almost all the other players given that honor were at least two years older.
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by timmy3 on Aug 27, 2025 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
certainly interesting numbers
but it’s always hard to tell with dsl numbers, particularly due to the strike zone differences down there. I remember the Cubs had an arm awhile back that lit up the DSL, but never amounted to much. Name’s slipping me at the moment, though.
by toonsterwu on Aug 27, 2025 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ike Davis
Homerun
I am beginning to lose patience
With my personal relations.
They are not deep
And they are not cheap.
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by jimduquettesucked on Aug 27, 2025 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was out for almost a week
keep’em comin’ Isaac.
by wobatus on Aug 27, 2025 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ike against lefties: .250/.338/.400
2 homers in AA. Admittedly small sample, but that is encouraging. Better than Alonso at least.
by wobatus on Aug 27, 2025 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ike
Power 2 the People!!
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In Barack Ike Trusts
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Aug 27, 2025 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian Desmond
seems babip flukey, but another nice day yestereay, 3-4.
by wobatus on Aug 27, 2025 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pedro Strop to the Show today.
didn’t see it coming.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2025 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Tommy Mendonca to H-A.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2025 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2025 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danny Espinosa is the best SS prospect in all the minor leagues.
Be real with yourself.
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