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Looking at the 2005 Draft

Normally it takes at least five years to determine how strong a draft class is/was. But sometimes a class is strong enough and deep enough to stand out right away, and 2005 looks to have been a potentially very special year. Just a review of the first round is revealing. Note the big disparity in quality between the hitters and pitchers.

1) Justin Upton; 2) Alex Gordon; 3) Jeff Clement; 4) Ryan Zimmerman; 5) Ryan Braun.

Wow. Three guys already established in the majors. Upton should be a superstar, and Clement should be good once he gets to play.

6) Ricky Romero; 7) Troy Tulowitzki; 8) Wade Townsend; 9) Mike Pelfrey; 10) Cameron Maybin.

Big split shows up with the pitching, as none of these arms have done as well as expected, Pelfrey being a particular disappointment.  However, you have Tulowitzki who is excellent and Maybin who is a top prospect.

11) Andrew McCutchen; 12) Jay Bruce; 13) Brandon Snyder; 14) Trevor Crowe; 15) Lance Broadway; 16) Chris Volstad; 17) C.J. Henry; 18) Cesar Carillo; 19) John Mayberry; 20) Mark Pawelek

The only total bust on the hitting side is Henry, as even the worst of the others still have a shot at being useful. None of the pitchers have emerged as certain stars, though Volstad is still very projectable. It wasn't a great year for high school pitchers.

21) Cliff Pennington; 22) Aaron Thompson; 23) Jacoby Ellsbury; 24) Brian Bogusevic; 25) Matt Garza; 26) Craig Hansen; 27) Joey Devine; 28) Colby Rasmus; 29) Jacob Marceaux; 30) Tyler Greene

Some bust-ish guys there, with Ellsbury and Rasmus standing out as particular bargains. Pennington was a polished college guy who hasn't done much. Greene was a raw college guy who hasn't done much. Bogusevic has stagnated.

Other interesting picks in the Top 100: 31) Matt Torra; 36) Travis Buck; 42) Clay Buchholz; 45) Jed Lowrie; 46) Tyler Herron; 47) Michael Bowden; 66) Chase Headley; 73) Kevin Slowey; 75) Yunel Escobar; 83) Micah Owings; 85) Will Inman; 99) Taylor Teagarden.

Intriguing that Buchholz wasn't a pure first-round pick. Keep an eye on Torra, who still has a chance to be interesting now that he's healthy again.

Some Highlights from Other Rounds:

Jensen Lewis, 3rd round; Jordan Schafer, 3rd round; Matt Maloney, 3rd round; Matt Gamel, 4th round; Brent Lillibridge, 4th round; Jeremy Hellickson, 4th round; Gaby Sanchez, 4th round; Jeff Larish, 5th round; Jon Meloan, 5th round; Clete Thomas, 6th round;  German Duran, 6th round;  Dan Cortes, 7th round; Jon Niese, 7th round; Austin Jackson, 8th round; Steve Pearce, 8th round; Josh Outman, 10th round; Alan Horne, 11th round.

Even now we don't know exactly how this is all going to pan out. Even the best prospects fail on us, especially the pitchers. But there's no question that, based on what we know now, the 2005 class was an outstanding one, particularly on the hitting side, especially the high school outfielder group and the excellent college hitters at the top of the class.

Don't forget the bizarre machinations involving Luke Hochevar, the Dodgers, and Scott Boras. Taken 40th overall, Hochevar would have gone in the top ten if his bonus demands hadn't been opaque. Hochevar ended up in indy ball and ended up as the first overall pick in 2006, though so far his pro performance has not lived up to his draft status.

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everyone on that list after mark pawalek

makes me sad...

http://www.simdynasty.com/index.jsp?refer=mychiefs58

by huckleberry on Apr 10, 2025 1:13 PM EDT   0 recs

Depressing draft for the Jays

It's possible that we won't have any major leaguers (other then Romero....).

Allan's World Music

by achengy on Apr 10, 2025 2:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Mayberry

ugh, a pick that the Lone Star Ball bloggers roundly denounced on draft day, and still wish had never happened.

Otherwise, not a disaster. They got Whittleman, Teagarden and Duran, and Kometani has a chance to be a decent reliever.

A working class hero is something to be.

by t ball on Apr 10, 2025 3:11 PM EDT   0 recs

so is he not expected to ever make it past AAA?

i was still kinda high on him last year... as a sleeper... time to give up?

by daveh33 on Apr 10, 2025 4:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not quite

I wouldn't say it's time to give up on him. LSB bloggers tend to either love or hate players. Obviously that's its own huge generalization, but when you draft a college outfielder who needs to rework his swing, and there's guys taken shortly after him who develop into stud prospects, it's tough for the guy to fall into the "love" category. Mayberry doesn't look like the next Jermaine Dye anymore, but I think he can still make the majors. He's still sleeper material, but he really needs to step it up this season. If he doesn't progress any this year, then it may be time to start writing him off. But not yet.

by naropean on Apr 10, 2025 10:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In short

not someone you use the 19th pick on.

A working class hero is something to be.

by t ball on Apr 10, 2025 11:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

FUUUUUUUCK

Where are the Giants picks? Oh, that's right, they didn't have a pick until the 4th round that year. We missed out on the first three rounds so we could sign Benitez, Vizquel, and Matheny. Way to go Sabes!

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Apr 10, 2025 3:13 PM EDT   0 recs

Pelfrey

I wouldn't be so disappointed in Pelfrey. I think seeing Romero and Townsend picked ahead of him puts it into perspective. at least Pelfrey is in the big leagues, pitched well yesterday, is youg and healthy. Lots of positves there.

by casejud on Apr 10, 2025 3:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oops

Sorry, the previous message was meant as a new post not a reply to my F*******K :-)

by casejud on Apr 10, 2025 3:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm

I just noticed that sigs go across all boards. Is there a way to have a sig only be for certain boards? My sig doesn't make much sense here, but it does over at McC.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Apr 10, 2025 4:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

buchholz

wasn't there some issue with him stealing a bunch of computers or something? Did that cause his stock to drop?

by yoda1 on Apr 10, 2025 5:22 PM EDT   0 recs

hmmm

absolutely correct. SI just wrote an article a few weeks back detailing that. In the article it also infers that before Buchholz came to fenway to meet with Epstein, most of the red sox scouting department did not think Buchholz was anything special. which i'm guessing means that most other teams thought Buchholz as being good, but nothing that would separate him from the other talented pitchers who didn't have a crimminal record. the only other team that had expressed a strong interest in Buchholz were the marlins.

by bk11 on Apr 10, 2025 11:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

SI article?

are you getting all that from the SI article you referenced? I read that article and I believe the article makes clear that the Red Sox scouts were excited about Buchholz but Epstein had to be convinced to draft someone with such an incident in their background. In fact, the article says that Boston considered taking him with their first pick but were concerned about the media glare the first pick in the draft would get in Boston.

Unless you are drawing on more references, I'd have to question the veracity of your claims about Buchholz.

by LeftyTG on Apr 13, 2025 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pelfrey...

Still has high upside.... He is in the majors and has won 5 games with potential for more...

by louief1 on Apr 11, 2025 2:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Ahh 2005 - the year I participated in the Mock Draft!

I love following the 2005 guys since that's the year I did the mock draft here for the Cubs. Got Jacoby Ellsbury, Trevor Bell, Jensen Lewis, Ryan Mullins, and Jemile Weeks. I won't mention my crappy 4th round pick who went in the 19th round in real life and is probably out of professional ball by now.

by acerimusdux on Apr 12, 2025 1:53 AM EDT   0 recs

You're a Vandy addict

BTW, speaking of Mock Drafts did John ever do writeups on the other half of the drafts from 07?

I remember he did some and then stopped and never restarted for some reason..any word as to why?

by nms on Apr 12, 2025 11:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reimold

No longer an interesting pick at #61? sigh

by rlc on Apr 12, 2025 6:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Marlins

I still think all those pitchers the Marlins got in the first round can make something of themselves. Volstad will be in the rotation at some point this year. Right now, he is first in line.

by Y08Marlin on Apr 16, 2025 4:22 PM EDT   0 recs

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