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Dallas McPherson: Is There Hope?


Dallas McPherson (Image copyright 2006 FutureAngels.com, used with permission)

Is There Any Hope For Dallas McPherson?

Let's break this down.

Three Reasons Why There Is No Hope

  1. McPherson has always had a high strikeout rate and was somewhat old for his leagues. His struggles in the majors last year and in Triple-A this year should have been expected.
  2. McPherson benefited from playing in minor league parks conducive to offense.
  3. McPherson can't hit breaking balls or changeups.
Three Reasons Why There IS Hope
  1. He's still 25, not young for a prospect but hardly old.
  2. Injuries bothered him all last season. Word from Anaheim and Salt Lake is that McPherson is still rusty from the time off and is pressing too hard, trying to hit five-run homers with every at-bat to get back to the majors.
  3. PECOTA comps include players such as Nick Esasky, Dave Kingman, Jay Buhner, Dean Palmer, Jesse Barfield, Gary Gaetti, and Pete Incaviglia, not superstars but all of them hit enough to be useful if deployed properly. PECOTA also includes Shane Andrews and Wes Chamberlain, but the other names were successful players.
There is no guarantee of success here. McPherson is having a rough start in Triple-A, and the strikeouts are scary (26 already in just 11 games). He might get buried as a "Quadruple-A" slugger in the eyes of baseball. But considering everything else he has done, there is still a not-unreasonable chance that he can rebound and live up to the potential he showed earlier. A change of scenery would likely be in order, however, to clear his head and open up more playing time. Getting away from third base and becoming a first baseman/DH might also help his bat, although that would also increase the pressure on him to hit.

So the bottom line is that, yes, there is hope.

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I agree with your change of scenary suggestion
McPherson's all or nothing plate approach doesn't fit the Angels offensive profile since they are fond of situational hitting and moving runners.  I don't think they will ever give him the opportunity to get better by committing 500 at-bats to him at the big league level.  

by sdbaseballfan on Apr 18, 2025 5:01 PM EDT   0 recs

dallas
i think he will be more than a serviceable player like Russ Branyan, as it would be easy to comp the 2...i think he will be a solid ml'er who could have flashes of brilliance.

by gashousegang on Apr 18, 2025 5:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Fork
stick it in him.
"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Apr 18, 2025 5:26 PM EDT   0 recs

3B
What are his chances of staying at third?  Ive never heard anything good about his defense, but I havent heard anyone say he has to move soon.  The Angels, however, put a pretty high value on defense and even if McPherson is servicable, will it be enough for Scoiscia?

I think this is important becuase a 3B that hits say, .250/.340/.450 is an everyday regular, but a 1B with the same numbers is well below average for his position.  If Dallas stays at 3B for the long term, I think he'll have a solid career, if he has to move to 1B in the near future, then he maybe a bust.

by sanchez101 on Apr 18, 2025 5:40 PM EDT   0 recs

McPherson
I know he's had struggles, but I'd be surprised if McPherson couldn't hit in the majors.  I agree on the change of scenery.  If there was some way Philadelphia could land him, I think he'd be an immediate upgrade over David Bell, offensively, and could be quite comfortable in that park.

by toonsterwu on Apr 18, 2025 5:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Any chance Brandon Wood
Could go down this road? Pretty please? He's the scariest Angel this side of Vlad.

by niallmack on Apr 18, 2025 6:37 PM EDT   0 recs

No Hope
I fear that McPherson is desined to be one of those players, like Wily Mo Pena or Hee Seop Choi, that scouts and GMs look at and see only what they can't do rather than what they can.

It's a shame. I think he be a good AL slugger and could hit 200-250 homers over his career.

Nolan

by Nolan on Apr 18, 2025 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

actually there is no "dallas mcpherson"
cincy had a 3rd baseman named larson who bout shot his bow with that team what with injuries, non-performance at major league level...

changed his name to mcpherson, introduced himself to the angels, took a few years off his age, and is giving it another go.

by dryice on Apr 18, 2025 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

not feeling
that comp at all, larson never had a full season even close to what mc pherson has done, i dont really recall him being too high of a prospect either.

by SoCalSoxFan on Apr 18, 2025 8:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yup...
It really is a shame to see such a talent like DMac go to waste. His enormous power is plus but his weaknesses (plate discipline, high K totals) overcome the positives.

by Dirtbags own the Titans on Apr 18, 2025 9:20 PM EDT   0 recs

18 months ago...
Dallas McPherson is the choice at The Sporting News as the Minor League Player of the Year :
" ...  no one stood out more than McPherson. Splitting time between Class AA Arkansas and Class AAA Salt Lake, he hit .317 with 40 home runs and 126 RBIs in 521 at-bats. He also had 36 doubles, 14 triples, 12 stolen bases and a stellar 1.054 on-base plus slugging percentage. McPherson's offensive weakness is his strikeout total -- he had 169, one every 3.1 at-bats. Because young power hitters often strike out at a high rate and then learn to make more consistent contact as they mature, this is not a major concern for now ...  He's the early favorite to be the Sporting News' top-ranked prospect in the preseason, and don't be surprised if, by next September, McPherson is the leading candidate for American League Rookie of the Year." (Kevin Wheeler)

by grandslam on Apr 18, 2025 9:54 PM EDT   0 recs

sorry
I don't understand. Is there real reason to believe Anaheim is down on him? Why is he done? Why is he all of a sudden no good at 3B?

His defence went from bad to acceptable.

He doesn't fit Angels approach? Didn't the last 3B have a name of Glaus? Anaheim is an agressive free swinging team.

He was sent down because he had been off for a long time and missed most of spring. Sure he is not ready. And even now is starting to hit in the minors.

He has not always had real high strikeout rates. He made a conscious decision to go for more power and sacrifice the K's. In spite of this his average did not suffer.

by pedrophile on Apr 18, 2025 10:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Anaheim
...is an aggresive free swinging team that wants guys to aggressively swing for singles, apparenetly (Erstad, Kennedy, Figgins).

This team just got the best "freeswinger" in baseball (Vlad) and a bunch of mediocre-at-best ones (Erstad, Kennedy, Figgins) who all combined to look slightly better than average. Now they think this proves that their philosophy is superior to Oakland's. It's a joke. They've got the exception not the rule.

Nolan

by Nolan on Apr 19, 2025 12:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ANA v. Oakland
Recent WS titles
ANA 1
Oak 0

Recent Playoff series results
ANA 4-1
Oak 0-4

Well, in the case of these two teams, the results DO tend to support Anaheim's philosophy (though I think it's more a matter of playing SMARTER baseball, the A's have had a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot with absolutely stupid decisions, such as Tejada deciding to stroll home).  Arguably, Oakland has had the better starting pitching as well, yet ZERO playoff series wins.

God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Apr 19, 2025 1:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Your metrics
...do not refute anything I've said and certainly do NOT support Anaheim's "philosophy" (a word I use liberally, since "philosophy" generally indicates some a priori thinking).

The Angels have overpaid for the very best no-walk free-swingers out there and they've managed to do fairly well with them over the past five years. This approach does not guarantee failure, as the Angels have demonstrated. But that's not my argument. On the other hand, I'm simply saying that Oakland's approach, given equal money, will work better. Given unequal money it may often work better but will always be cheaper (as long as Bill Stoneman and Jim Bowden are still running around).

If Billy Beane had been the Angels GM over the past 5 years, you'd have had a better team and your investors would have made a lot more money.

Nolan

by Nolan on Apr 19, 2025 1:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not buying it
Sorry, but I fail to see anything about Oakland's philosophy which would make it superior. Sure they get to the playoffs, but so what if you can't win there?  The Marlins won a WS with a small payroll, maybe Beane is just not the genius A's fans think he is.
And the Angels in their WS year didn't have that high a payroll, Moreno hadn't bought the team and started shelling out cash like it was Christmas day.
God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Apr 19, 2025 3:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's simple
"Sorry, but I fail to see anything about Oakland's philosophy which would make it superior."

OBA correlates with runs scored more strongly that BA. That's all there is too it. Any organization that fails to build a team with that FACT in mind is making a mistake.

Nolan

by Nolan on Apr 19, 2025 4:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A's
And yet the A's, supposedly the poster child for that philosophy, have become nearly a joke in the playoffs.
Meanwhile Anaheim and Florida have both won titles.

Funny, I always thought that hitting the ball was what won ballgames.  Go figure.

God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Apr 19, 2025 5:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How do you figure they are a joke?
The A's have yet to play a series under the current regime where they didn't create an elimination game for their opponent.  They played their opponents tough every time.  They were all solid teams.

The reason the A's lost had nothing to do with the differences in philosophy.  The losses had almost entirely to do with starting pitching injuries and baserunning mistakes.  The A's and Angels philosophies are identical in those two regards: injuries and baserunning mistakes are bad.

The year the Angels won it all, the A's won the division with a payroll of $40M compared to the Angels' $62M.  That difference is huge regardless of whatever you say.  Beane had absolutely no financial ability to acquire significant free agents from when he became GM before the 98 season until this season.  The A's have been able to acquire some free agents this year because they have a new, more wealthy ownership group.  Virtually every significant player on all of those competitive A's teams were promoted from within or acquired via trade, usually for players still in their arbitration years.

The only A's who were acquired as major league free agents for any of their 4 recent post-season teams were:

Mike Magnante
Doug Jones
Greg Myers
John Jaha
Scott Hatteberg
Chris Singleton
John Halama

That is the entire group of free agents which had a part in the 4 postseason appearances from 2000-2003.

by LizardKing51 on Apr 19, 2025 9:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

seriously?
"The A's have yet to play a series under the current regime where they didn't create an elimination game for their opponent."

not to pile on, but I can't resist asking if they give out prizes for that -- do you have a row of statutes commemorating those playoff losses? haven't been to an A's opening day -- do they raise a flag in celebration?

I have no problem with Beane or with Oakland, for that matter, but the idea that they discovered electricity is nonsense. they've had great starting pitching, lousy and now much better defense, and good hitting. The great starting pitching has been the key, not the offensive philosophy. The offense, in fact, has often been only good, and what killed them in their first runs was bad defense -- in line with sabremetric common wisdom at the time that defense didn't much matter. One of the things I really most admire about Beane is how he turned a sabremetric mantra -- that defense was overrated - on its head and has turned the A's into a very good defensive squad (and now the BP crowd has followed over the last few years).  The good not great offense is a bit of a puzzle, and one does have to wonder if squads that are built for the big inning and to grind a pitcher down are not as good in the playoffs where the pitching is at a high level and the bullpens used much more extensively.

in any case, the point of the game isn't to score runs in a particular style, it's to win. Until the As win something, they have no bragging rights, nor does their reigning philosophy.

by scooter on Apr 19, 2025 11:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think
the thing about Beane is that he gets those results with a smaller payroll than everyone else.

by ian on Apr 19, 2025 11:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Attention Flat Earth Society
Oh well...The great thing about facts are that you don't have to believe them for them to be true...Go Angels! Darin Erstad forever!
Nolan

by Nolan on Apr 19, 2025 3:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Forced elimination games?
Ok, I have to call bullshit on that.  The A's DID go up 2-0 on the Sox, and then promptly BLEW it over the next three games.
God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Apr 19, 2025 5:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oak
the OPS waiting for your pitch to hit doesn't work worth crap in the playoffs.

Billy Beanes philosophy is excellent over a long season. But when you play the best teams with the best pitching you have to manufacture runs. Maybe steals or bunts. Maybe swinging agressively. Why agressively? Because the top pitchers will constantly get ahead of the "billy ball" hitters who are looking to work the count.

Take a look. Patient teams do not fare so well against pitchers that are excellent first pitch strike types of guys. (ouch that is an ugly sentence!)

by pedrophile on Apr 19, 2025 9:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Beane's Oakland teams in the playoffs
I think this is mainly a sample size issue.  Many ways of "manufacturing" runs generally result in a net loss of runs in the long-term.  It's not so much that Beane's teams are using the wrong strategy.  They're getting unlucky.

by limozeen on Apr 20, 2025 1:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And yet
Oakland has managed to sit out the past two years' worth of postseasons. If Beane is such a genius, surely he would have won a title by now -- oh, he has an explanation for that. "My sh-t don't work in the postseason."  
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Apr 19, 2025 11:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Beane
He is in charge of personnel decisions for all levels of the A's organization and they seem to have a very good track record for prospects turning into useful big leaguers especially pitchers (and most importantly a relative lack of pitching injuries). I think this and some good trades are what makes him good in my eyes.

by niallmack on Apr 19, 2025 1:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Postseason and Philosophy
The postseason is what it is - several short matchups in which any team could go on a streak and win or alternatively flame out in a big way.

I know that winning is the bottom line, but I don't think it's the right way to evaluate the Angels' "philosophy" or the A's "philosophy."

by sasquatch83 on Apr 19, 2025 3:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My Opinion
I think there's no hope, and I'd like to point out that I knew he'd do poorly all along.
...NJASDJDH...

by Fabian on Apr 19, 2025 12:16 AM EDT   0 recs

DH's
It seems that every team has at least 2 guys that should be a DH, or at least that is what everyone says. To my knowledge ther is only 14 such jobs in the entire world. I figure that if it is ever brought up that a minor leaguer should be a DH that means that he probably won't ever make it.
You bring the juice. I'll bring the ginick, Pam Minick!

by Shamus on Apr 19, 2025 2:27 AM EDT   0 recs

Hope, and no hope
Though Sickels didn't mention it, Dallas has been handed a first baseman's glove in many recent contests at AAA Salt Lake.  There were rumors in spring training that he would have been shopped had he had a hot spring.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Apr 19, 2025 11:17 AM EDT   0 recs

Unbelievable number of strikeouts
How is it even possible to strike out 26 times in 11 AAA games?  The clock is ticking fast...anyone on a "pace" for 382 minor league strikeouts isn't going to make it without immediate substantial improvement.

by BIgMax on Apr 19, 2025 11:40 AM EDT   0 recs

Can you people not spell
"small sample size"?  The season isn't even a month old.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Apr 19, 2025 1:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Umm
I think its obvious there is something wrong with his swing right now if he has 26 k's in 11 games. The fact that it's just a small sample size just means that there is a better chance he can turn it around than if it was half a season.

by niallmack on Apr 19, 2025 1:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

McPherson in Perspective
Let's have a little perspective here ...

McPherson suffered lower back problems from 2003 through 2005.  At first, it was thought it was simply some sort of hernia or disc issue.  But when the problem wouldn't go away, they started sending him to specialists.  One specialist last summer finally discovered that a bone spur on his hip had been chewing up his muscles from the inside.

Ewwww ...

So he underwent surgery to shave down the bone spur.

Now, what if that injury had never existed?

If it hadn't existed, he probably would have been in Anaheim all of 2005, and he'd be playing 3B full-time now for the Angels.

So his age really can't be considered a factor because he missed time due to injury.

The other issue has to do with pitch selection and hitting mechanics.  The former has always been a concern; as he rose through the minors, more experienced pitchers started to find pitches he'd chase.  This happened in the big leagues last year, but just before he went on the DL he was starting to adjust, laying off pitches he couldn't (or shouldn't) it.

As for hitting mechanics, the Angels are trying to shorten his swing a bit.  He still has plenty of power, but they're trying to get him to drive the ball more and not try to pull it so much.  Tom Kotchman, his skipper at Provo in 2001, told me that Dallas used to apologize for hitting opposite-field home runs, not realizing it doesn't matter where he hits it, just so long as he drives it.

The talent is there.  Most of his problem now is probably psychological.  Players will tell you the biggest leap is from Triple-A to the majors because the game is so much faster, and there's a lot more pressure to produce.  If he gets back his confidence, then he'll get back to being more selective at the plate and not worrying about showing everyone he can still hit dingers.

It's just the third week of April, way too soon to give up on the poor kid.

by FutureAngels on Apr 19, 2025 1:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Confidence
I don't imagine it will take long, this is a kid who stared down Johnson after getting plunked and promptly stole second off him.  Whatever else you can say about him, he's got grit.
God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Apr 19, 2025 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

stephen
Probably the most fair and balanced post i've ever read from you.  Of all here, you probably know dallas the best.  Just from what you've written about him throughout the years, i am sure that he just needs to play.  He is going to be an impact player for the angels, it's just a matter of timing and confidence.  

He was clearly getting used to being in the majors last year right before he was shut down for the year.  My biggest concern is whether the Angels will be patient with him and continue to figure him into their plans when he does heat up.  

by matthew on Apr 20, 2025 1:45 AM EDT   0 recs

Bump
DP has returned to the bigs and shown some pop while cutting down on the Ks over the last two weeks.  Is it too soon to hope he has turned a corner?
We Crack Us Up.

by Big Snax on Jun 10, 2025 11:47 AM EDT   0 recs

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