Dallas McPherson: Is There Hope?
Dallas McPherson (Image copyright 2006 FutureAngels.com, used with permission)
Is There Any Hope For Dallas McPherson?
Let's break this down.
Three Reasons Why There Is No Hope
- McPherson has always had a high strikeout rate and was somewhat old for his leagues. His struggles in the majors last year and in Triple-A this year should have been expected.
- McPherson benefited from playing in minor league parks conducive to offense.
- McPherson can't hit breaking balls or changeups.
- He's still 25, not young for a prospect but hardly old.
- Injuries bothered him all last season. Word from Anaheim and Salt Lake is that McPherson is still rusty from the time off and is pressing too hard, trying to hit five-run homers with every at-bat to get back to the majors.
- PECOTA comps include players such as Nick Esasky, Dave Kingman, Jay Buhner, Dean Palmer, Jesse Barfield, Gary Gaetti, and Pete Incaviglia, not superstars but all of them hit enough to be useful if deployed properly. PECOTA also includes Shane Andrews and Wes Chamberlain, but the other names were successful players.
So the bottom line is that, yes, there is hope.
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I agree with your change of scenary suggestion
by sdbaseballfan on Apr 18, 2025 5:01 PM EDT 0 recs
dallas
by gashousegang on Apr 18, 2025 5:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Fork
by slurve on Apr 18, 2025 5:26 PM EDT 0 recs
3B
I think this is important becuase a 3B that hits say, .250/.340/.450 is an everyday regular, but a 1B with the same numbers is well below average for his position. If Dallas stays at 3B for the long term, I think he'll have a solid career, if he has to move to 1B in the near future, then he maybe a bust.
by sanchez101 on Apr 18, 2025 5:40 PM EDT 0 recs
McPherson
by toonsterwu on Apr 18, 2025 5:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Any chance Brandon Wood
by niallmack on Apr 18, 2025 6:37 PM EDT 0 recs
No Hope
It's a shame. I think he be a good AL slugger and could hit 200-250 homers over his career.
by Nolan on Apr 18, 2025 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs
actually there is no "dallas mcpherson"
changed his name to mcpherson, introduced himself to the angels, took a few years off his age, and is giving it another go.
by dryice on Apr 18, 2025 7:30 PM EDT 0 recs
not feeling
by SoCalSoxFan on
Apr 18, 2025 8:49 PM EDT
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yup...
by Dirtbags own the Titans on Apr 18, 2025 9:20 PM EDT 0 recs
18 months ago...
" ... no one stood out more than McPherson. Splitting time between Class AA Arkansas and Class AAA Salt Lake, he hit .317 with 40 home runs and 126 RBIs in 521 at-bats. He also had 36 doubles, 14 triples, 12 stolen bases and a stellar 1.054 on-base plus slugging percentage. McPherson's offensive weakness is his strikeout total -- he had 169, one every 3.1 at-bats. Because young power hitters often strike out at a high rate and then learn to make more consistent contact as they mature, this is not a major concern for now ... He's the early favorite to be the Sporting News' top-ranked prospect in the preseason, and don't be surprised if, by next September, McPherson is the leading candidate for American League Rookie of the Year." (Kevin Wheeler)
by grandslam on Apr 18, 2025 9:54 PM EDT 0 recs
sorry
His defence went from bad to acceptable.
He doesn't fit Angels approach? Didn't the last 3B have a name of Glaus? Anaheim is an agressive free swinging team.
He was sent down because he had been off for a long time and missed most of spring. Sure he is not ready. And even now is starting to hit in the minors.
He has not always had real high strikeout rates. He made a conscious decision to go for more power and sacrifice the K's. In spite of this his average did not suffer.
by pedrophile on Apr 18, 2025 10:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Anaheim
This team just got the best "freeswinger" in baseball (Vlad) and a bunch of mediocre-at-best ones (Erstad, Kennedy, Figgins) who all combined to look slightly better than average. Now they think this proves that their philosophy is superior to Oakland's. It's a joke. They've got the exception not the rule.
by Nolan on
Apr 19, 2025 12:33 AM EDT
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ANA v. Oakland
ANA 1
Oak 0
Recent Playoff series results
ANA 4-1
Oak 0-4
Well, in the case of these two teams, the results DO tend to support Anaheim's philosophy (though I think it's more a matter of playing SMARTER baseball, the A's have had a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot with absolutely stupid decisions, such as Tejada deciding to stroll home). Arguably, Oakland has had the better starting pitching as well, yet ZERO playoff series wins.
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Apr 19, 2025 1:17 AM EDT
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Your metrics
The Angels have overpaid for the very best no-walk free-swingers out there and they've managed to do fairly well with them over the past five years. This approach does not guarantee failure, as the Angels have demonstrated. But that's not my argument. On the other hand, I'm simply saying that Oakland's approach, given equal money, will work better. Given unequal money it may often work better but will always be cheaper (as long as Bill Stoneman and Jim Bowden are still running around).
If Billy Beane had been the Angels GM over the past 5 years, you'd have had a better team and your investors would have made a lot more money.
by Nolan on
Apr 19, 2025 1:50 AM EDT
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Not buying it
And the Angels in their WS year didn't have that high a payroll, Moreno hadn't bought the team and started shelling out cash like it was Christmas day.
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Apr 19, 2025 3:57 AM EDT
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It's simple
OBA correlates with runs scored more strongly that BA. That's all there is too it. Any organization that fails to build a team with that FACT in mind is making a mistake.
by Nolan on
Apr 19, 2025 4:37 AM EDT
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A's
Meanwhile Anaheim and Florida have both won titles.
Funny, I always thought that hitting the ball was what won ballgames. Go figure.
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Apr 19, 2025 5:23 AM EDT
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How do you figure they are a joke?
The reason the A's lost had nothing to do with the differences in philosophy. The losses had almost entirely to do with starting pitching injuries and baserunning mistakes. The A's and Angels philosophies are identical in those two regards: injuries and baserunning mistakes are bad.
The year the Angels won it all, the A's won the division with a payroll of $40M compared to the Angels' $62M. That difference is huge regardless of whatever you say. Beane had absolutely no financial ability to acquire significant free agents from when he became GM before the 98 season until this season. The A's have been able to acquire some free agents this year because they have a new, more wealthy ownership group. Virtually every significant player on all of those competitive A's teams were promoted from within or acquired via trade, usually for players still in their arbitration years.
The only A's who were acquired as major league free agents for any of their 4 recent post-season teams were:
Mike Magnante
Doug Jones
Greg Myers
John Jaha
Scott Hatteberg
Chris Singleton
John Halama
That is the entire group of free agents which had a part in the 4 postseason appearances from 2000-2003.
by LizardKing51 on
Apr 19, 2025 9:27 AM EDT
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seriously?
not to pile on, but I can't resist asking if they give out prizes for that -- do you have a row of statutes commemorating those playoff losses? haven't been to an A's opening day -- do they raise a flag in celebration?
I have no problem with Beane or with Oakland, for that matter, but the idea that they discovered electricity is nonsense. they've had great starting pitching, lousy and now much better defense, and good hitting. The great starting pitching has been the key, not the offensive philosophy. The offense, in fact, has often been only good, and what killed them in their first runs was bad defense -- in line with sabremetric common wisdom at the time that defense didn't much matter. One of the things I really most admire about Beane is how he turned a sabremetric mantra -- that defense was overrated - on its head and has turned the A's into a very good defensive squad (and now the BP crowd has followed over the last few years). The good not great offense is a bit of a puzzle, and one does have to wonder if squads that are built for the big inning and to grind a pitcher down are not as good in the playoffs where the pitching is at a high level and the bullpens used much more extensively.
in any case, the point of the game isn't to score runs in a particular style, it's to win. Until the As win something, they have no bragging rights, nor does their reigning philosophy.
by scooter on
Apr 19, 2025 11:21 AM EDT
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I think
by ian on
Apr 19, 2025 11:38 AM EDT
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Attention Flat Earth Society
by Nolan on
Apr 19, 2025 3:11 PM EDT
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Forced elimination games?
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Apr 19, 2025 5:44 PM EDT
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Oak
Billy Beanes philosophy is excellent over a long season. But when you play the best teams with the best pitching you have to manufacture runs. Maybe steals or bunts. Maybe swinging agressively. Why agressively? Because the top pitchers will constantly get ahead of the "billy ball" hitters who are looking to work the count.
Take a look. Patient teams do not fare so well against pitchers that are excellent first pitch strike types of guys. (ouch that is an ugly sentence!)
by pedrophile on
Apr 19, 2025 9:32 PM EDT
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Beane's Oakland teams in the playoffs
by limozeen on
Apr 20, 2025 1:20 AM EDT
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And yet
by scareduck on
Apr 19, 2025 11:19 AM EDT
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Beane
by niallmack on
Apr 19, 2025 1:28 PM EDT
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Postseason and Philosophy
I know that winning is the bottom line, but I don't think it's the right way to evaluate the Angels' "philosophy" or the A's "philosophy."
by sasquatch83 on
Apr 19, 2025 3:42 PM EDT
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My Opinion
by Fabian on Apr 19, 2025 12:16 AM EDT 0 recs
DH's
by Shamus on Apr 19, 2025 2:27 AM EDT 0 recs
Hope, and no hope
by scareduck on Apr 19, 2025 11:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Unbelievable number of strikeouts
by BIgMax on Apr 19, 2025 11:40 AM EDT 0 recs
Can you people not spell
by scareduck on
Apr 19, 2025 1:14 PM EDT
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Umm
by niallmack on
Apr 19, 2025 1:42 PM EDT
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McPherson in Perspective
McPherson suffered lower back problems from 2003 through 2005. At first, it was thought it was simply some sort of hernia or disc issue. But when the problem wouldn't go away, they started sending him to specialists. One specialist last summer finally discovered that a bone spur on his hip had been chewing up his muscles from the inside.
Ewwww ...
So he underwent surgery to shave down the bone spur.
Now, what if that injury had never existed?
If it hadn't existed, he probably would have been in Anaheim all of 2005, and he'd be playing 3B full-time now for the Angels.
So his age really can't be considered a factor because he missed time due to injury.
The other issue has to do with pitch selection and hitting mechanics. The former has always been a concern; as he rose through the minors, more experienced pitchers started to find pitches he'd chase. This happened in the big leagues last year, but just before he went on the DL he was starting to adjust, laying off pitches he couldn't (or shouldn't) it.
As for hitting mechanics, the Angels are trying to shorten his swing a bit. He still has plenty of power, but they're trying to get him to drive the ball more and not try to pull it so much. Tom Kotchman, his skipper at Provo in 2001, told me that Dallas used to apologize for hitting opposite-field home runs, not realizing it doesn't matter where he hits it, just so long as he drives it.
The talent is there. Most of his problem now is probably psychological. Players will tell you the biggest leap is from Triple-A to the majors because the game is so much faster, and there's a lot more pressure to produce. If he gets back his confidence, then he'll get back to being more selective at the plate and not worrying about showing everyone he can still hit dingers.
It's just the third week of April, way too soon to give up on the poor kid.
by FutureAngels on Apr 19, 2025 1:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Confidence
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Apr 19, 2025 5:43 PM EDT
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stephen
He was clearly getting used to being in the majors last year right before he was shut down for the year. My biggest concern is whether the Angels will be patient with him and continue to figure him into their plans when he does heat up.
by matthew on Apr 20, 2025 1:45 AM EDT 0 recs
Bump
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