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Prospect Retro: James Shields

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James Shields was drafted by the Rays in the 16th round in 2000, out of high school in Newhall, California. He signed late and didn't make his pro debut until 2001, but it was quite successful: 2.65 ERA with a 60/10 K/BB in 71 innings for Charleston in the Sally League. I did not put him in the 2002 book, but I should have, as in retrospect his numbers were very good and the scouting reports indicated a pitcher with a lot of polish for his age.. I'd rate a similar guy now as a Grade C+/B- type.

Shoulder trouble cost Shields the entire 2002 season, and he entered 2003 with a lot of question marks about his future. He ended up going 10-10, 4.45 with a 119/38 K/BB in 144 innings for Bakersfield in the Cal League in 2003, with 161 hits allowed. He would rate as a Grade C prospect, throwing strikes, but very hittable. Scouting reports dating to that period indicated that the shoulder injury had cost him velocity and his status was pretty marginal.

Shields returned to Bakersfield in 2004, going 8-5, 4.23 with a 92/33 K/BB in 117 innings, 119 hits allowed. Again, he was throwing strikes, but wasn't dominant. The good news was that his velocity was starting to pick up again, though it still wasn't terrific. Grade C/C+ would seem reasonable, though needing to prove himself at higher levels of course.

2005 saw Shields at Double-A Montgomery, posting a 2.80 ERA with a 104/31 K/BB in 109 innings with 95 hits allowed. He looked very good in the Arizona Fall League as well. I gave him a Grade B- in the 2006 book, issuing a "Sleeper Alert!" and pointing out his strong command of his 90 MPH fastball, curveball, and changeup, advising readers to keep a close eye on him.

Shields split 2006 between Triple-A and the majors, and as you know he's been very good-to-excellent for the Rays in 2007 and 2008. Shields has a great feel for pitching, mixing his fastball, cutter, changeup, and curveball very effectively. His strikeout rate declined this year, but otherwise he's been very consistent the last two seasons. In the minors he showed excellent K/BB ratios, but durability concerns were his main problem. That hasn't been an issue the last three seasons, and if he remains healthy he should be effective at his current level for several more years.

 

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I talked to him a year ago....

And he credited a lot of his success to working out with his cousin Aaron Rowand. He said that Rowand was the hardest working ball player he’d ever met and said he had started working out with Rowand (this was in 2007).

by joltinjoe on Oct 4, 2025 12:46 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I always wondered

where he came from.

1941 .406

by FrozenTed9 on Oct 4, 2025 2:43 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Also

I believe he picked up his change, which is probably one of the top 5 change-ups in the league, while he was in AA, which probably contributed to his rise.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Oct 4, 2025 4:38 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I watched him

when he first arrived in TB. He had that terrific debut going 4-0 his first month up and then slumped badly. What impressed me was that he recovered to finish the year strong and the following year demonstrated an ability to adjust both within games and from game to game when he ran into trouble.

In TB people like to talk about his toughness. I think it really is that ability to adjust and alter his patterns. One of my favorite moments in the ballpark was last year against Minnesota when, leading 5-1 in the 5th, he suddenly ran into trouble by hitting a batter and then allowing 2 bunt singles to load the bases with 0 outs he struck out Mauer and got Morneau to hit into a DP.

by bobr on Oct 4, 2025 4:43 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Very Smart Pitcher

Definitely gets the most out of his stuff, which is by no means bad - but isnt anything special. I think he really is a case of a guy who is more than the sum of his parts.

Then again, so many people seem to be all over him and hyping him(based primarilly on his big season last year) that he strikes me as slightly overrated at this moment. He’s not a real solid front end option. He looks more like a consistent 2/3 guy to me. Every team in the league would love to have him, though, and I would wager he’ll be around long after guys we’ve rated above him have flashed in the pan and are selling mortgages somewhere.

by alskor on Oct 4, 2025 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

His stuff does not impress you when you watch him pitch

He does not have overwhelming stuff by any means. This is why he flew under the radar for so long.

Is his changeup really graded an 80? I find that hard to believe. Its very good, but I can think of a handful of changeups that are a good deal better. Especially Hamels. If both Hamels and Shields changeups grade the same something is very wrong with either the scout or the grading system… and that’s not meant as a knock on Shields…

by alskor on Oct 5, 2025 2:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hamels and Santanas are probably better

But at the very least Keith Law has graded his change an 80. I don’t know if I’d go that far, but he has a killer change. Same trajectory as the fastball until the last 20 feet or so, and then the bottom just falls out of it.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Oct 5, 2025 3:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Shields probably has

the best right handed changeup in baseball… that’s an 80 pitch. It’s not quite as good as Hamels’, but it’s not far off, either.

www.raysbb.com

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by killa3312 on Oct 8, 2025 12:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

In addition, his fastball is underrated

it’s not amazing by any stretch of the imagination, but he can touch 94 MPH with it and can throw it anywhere he wants thanks to his pin point control. His knuckle curve also has potential, and there are times when it has some serious bite to it. No, he doesn’t have overwhelming stuff, but it’s above average, especially with that change, and when you combine that with top notch control, that’s an excellent MLB pitcher.

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by killa3312 on Oct 8, 2025 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Average fastball velocity

90.4 mph

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=y&type=4&season=2008

Have you actually seen his changeup graded an 80 anywhere?

My original assertion was that he doesnt have impressive stuff, not that his stuff was poor…

by alskor on Oct 8, 2025 3:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Keith Law

among others said they believed it was an 80 pitch, and I bet when Baseball America’s annual top tools analysis comes out, he’ll be graded as having the best change in the AL. If it’s not an 80 pitch, it comes darn close. Just look at the alarming number of swings and misses he gets on it.

I also said he could touch 94 MPH with his fastball. I never said it was great, but it’s not like he’s throwing 85 MPH up on the hill, either.

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by killa3312 on Oct 8, 2025 12:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Velocity
I also said he could touch 94 MPH with his fastball. I never said it was great, but it’s not like he’s throwing 85 MPH up on the hill, either.

I wasnt arguing the point… I was just adding new information…

Fwiw, his changeup needs to move a ton, because his avg change velocity is only 10mph less than his fastball…

by alskor on Oct 8, 2025 6:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

10 mph differential is good.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Oct 9, 2025 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

As a Yankee fan

I have gotten to see him quite a bit. Like alskor says his stuff isn’t overwhelming by any means. His fastball just pops and he locates it fairly well, and when you expect a fastball he comes at you with a changeup that just gets burried in the ground. On most, if not all teams, he would be a middle of the rotation guy, someone who can just eat innings and give you a chance to win every night. Didn’t know he had very little success early on, what attributed to his improvement in 2005?

by MartyMcFly on Oct 6, 2025 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Bonds will be signed...

…by the San Quentin All-Stars.

by royshowell on Oct 6, 2025 11:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He looked good the other night.

He battled against the ChiSox and constantly made adjustments. Pitchers that do that with success usually end up staying in the league for a while.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Oct 4, 2025 10:49 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Supposedly his mechanics are very good as well,

so I wonder if they have changed since he had all the shoulder trouble, or if his recovery is simply due to better conditioning.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Oct 5, 2025 2:22 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

He credits his health to his cousin.

Aaron Rowand, who pushed him to work hard. I’m sure it’s a little bit of both.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Oct 5, 2025 5:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

he was a top 100 or 200 pick talent draft-wise who fell for signability reasons

by nms on Oct 5, 2025 3:15 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

How did Tampa get him?

What was his bonus?

www.loftylantern.com

by OldProspects on Oct 5, 2025 5:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

to clarify

To clarify what I was saying earlier, I looked it up and his wiki page says BA ranked him as the 16th best prep draft prospect in 2000 (his draft year) and he was an LSU commit.

He signed (late, I’d assume since he didn’t play ball til 2001) for a 200k bonus.
I’m not sure what that would be then but today it is 4th round-ish money I think, so maybe he got what was a 2nd round bonus in 2000.

by nms on Oct 5, 2025 6:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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