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Mets Top 20 In Review


New York Mets Top 20 in Review

Remember, this was the Pre-Season List.

1) Yusmeiro Petit, RHP
     Went 9-3, 2.91 in 21 starts with 130/18 K/BB for Double-A Binghamton. Was hit hard in three Triple-A starts, but did better in the playoffs. No real change in his status: he remains very intriguing. Sabermetrically, there is a lot to like here, although traditional scouts still harbor some doubts about whether his stuff will hold up in the Show.

2) Phil Humber, RHP
    Went 2-6, 4.99 in 14 starts for Class A St. Lucie, then blew out his elbow and had to have Tommy John. Obviously a disappointment. After what happened to Humber and Tigers farmhand Kenny Baugh, will teams start backing off of Rice pitching prospects due to overuse concerns?

3) Lastings Milledge, OF
     Hit .302/.385/.418 for St. Lucie, then .337/.392/.487 after being promoted to Double-A. Milledge still has some flaws, namely mediocre plate discipline and sloppy baserunning at times, but his tools really stand out, and his skills are coming along. I gave him a Grade B in the book, but in retrospect that was too low and he should have been a Grade B+ even without this year's data to look at. I would rank him as the best Mets prospect now rather than Petit.

4) Gaby Hernandez, RHP
     Pitched well for Hagerstown in the Sally League, going 6-1, 2.43 in 18 starts, but slumped after being promoted to St. Lucie (5.74 ERA in 10 starts). He remains a very intriguing prospect and I think he'll figure out the advanced levels quickly enough.

5) Victor Diaz, OF
    Hit .257/.329/.468 with 12 homers in 89 games for the Mets. This is in line with expectation, and I think he will improve further in time.

6) Alay Soler, RHP
     Cuban defector, missed entire season due to visa foul-up, but expected to pitch in '06.

7) Aarom Baldiris, 2B-3B
     Hit .275/.341/.416 with 11 homers and 35 doubles for Binghamton. Did OK, pushed into double-digit homers for the first time, but his prospect status has slipped. He has to take another step forward in '06 or he will get buried in this system.

8) Ambiorix Concepcion, OF
     Hit .251/.289/.413 with 15 homers for Hagerstown. Decent power, but his poor 22/136 BB/K ratio in 521 at-bats is a red flag. Concepcion has good physical tools, but his skills are still quite rough.    

9) Matt Durkin, RHP
     3.79 ERA with 79/54 K/BB in 76 innings for Hagerstown. Durkin has good stuff, reflected in his K/IP, but his walk rate is too high, and he will definitely need better command at higher levels.

10) Brian Bannister, RHP
     Solid season in Double-A/Triple-A, combining for 13-5 record and 2.74 ERA, 142/40 K/BB ratio. He doesn't have a blazing fastball, but he throws strikes and knows how to pitch, projecting as a back-end rotation starter or long reliever.

11) Jeff Keppinger, 2B
     Hit .337/.377/.455 in 64 games for Triple-A Norfolk, before going down with injury. Keppinger is similar to David Eckstein.

12) Jamar Hill, OF
      Hit .252/.326/.414 with 15 homers, 13 steals for St. Lucie. Some power and speed potential, but handicapped by mediocre plate discipline (47 walks, 151 strikeouts in 456 at-bats) and contact problems.

13) Jesus Flores, C
      Venezuelan catcher, hit .216/.250/.339 in 82 games for Hagerstown. He hit a lot better in rookie ball in '04, but his weak performance this year raises significant doubts about his bat.

14) Shawn Bowman, 3B
     Hit .221/.282/.429 with 17 homers, 22 walks, 110 strikeouts in 87 games of an injury-shortened season. I am not impressed with him at all, although scouts still like his athleticism. The only positive sabermetric marker is his age. At 20 he has time to get better, which is good because he has a lot of things to work on.

15) Blake McGinley, LHP
      3.43 ERA in 84 innings for Norfolk, 69/21 K/BB. Decent season in the high minors. He might make an effective LOOGY down the road.

16) Angel Pagan, OF
     Hit .271/.333/.395 with 20 doubles, 10 triples, eight homers, 49 walks, 111 strikeouts in 516 at-bats for Norfolk. Outside chance of earning a bench job eventually, but unlikely to become a regular. His skills just aren't strong enough.

17) Evan MacLane, LHP
     Finesse lefty, went 8-5, 3.20 with 91/15 K/BB in 112 innings for St. Lucie, then 3-2, 4.14, 48/9 K/BB in 59 innings for Binghamton. MacLane's margin for error is small, but his track record so far is pretty good.

18) Brett Harper, 1B
      Combined for 36 homers between St. Lucie and Binghamton, hitting .275. Harper sacrificed batting average for power this year. His strikeout rate is high (85 Ks in just 67 games in Double-A) and personally I want to see more out of him. His career could go any number of directions from this point.

19) Wayne Lydon, OF
      Hit .244/.313/.340 with 42 steals for Binghamton. Lots of speed, but offers little else.

20) Vince Cordova, RHP
      Went 8-9, 4.01 in 25 starts for St. Lucie, 110/26 K/BB in 141 innings. Curveball artist with good control. If he handles Double-A well, he could end up being similar to Brian Bannister, but like Bannister he doesn't have a big margin for mistakes.

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Carlos Gomez
I know this is a preseason list, but I have read good things about Carlos Gomez (i think thats his name).  What is his potential?
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by mrmetaa on Nov 3, 2025 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Three questions
  1. Considering you said this that his pre-season grade was too low (without accounting for this year's data), does that mean that Milledge (thanks to his great season this year) is now a Grade A prospect?
  2. I'm sure someone must have asked this before, but how come Jacobs couldn't break the top 20 at the start of the year? I know he didn't look that great then, but I can't believe he was rated behind Concepcion, Lydon and Pagan.
  3. What are your thoughts on Grant Psomas?  
Sorry for all the questions.

by OFF on Nov 3, 2025 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

jacobs
Jacobs hit .177 in 2004 and was injured for much of the year. Hard to justify putting him in the top 20 in February! :)

Milledge is either a B+ or an A-.

Psomas...he's certainly INTERESTING and I rate him as a sleeper in the book.

by John Sickels on Nov 3, 2025 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Humber...Baugh...
Don't forget the Rays injured duo of Townsend and Niemann. Hopefully Niemann can avoid the elbow troubles.

by UCFKnights on Nov 3, 2025 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Harper
Just out of curiousity, should it reflect poorly on him that he played 45 games at Double-A in '04 and stunk up the joint so badly that the Mets sent him back down to A-ball for the first half of the season?  I know that they had Jacobs there, but he was coming off a yearlong injury and they could have always had Harper DH.  Just curious.

by MontrealMets on Nov 3, 2025 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Harper
Harper wasn't that bad at AA in 04. A 750ish OPS obviously isn't great, but I wouldn't really call it "stinking up the joint." If this should reflect badly on anyone its on the Mets, who up until this year had made a bunch of questionable moves in their minor league system (lets not forget the demotion of minor leaguers so that Brooklyn could win a title).

by OFF on Nov 3, 2025 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes
I know it reflects poorly on the Mets, but he did have 60 strikeouts in 45 games.  Normally I place a lot of stock in OPS, but in this case, it seems to be a bit misleading.

That said, I think he should have been at AA all year.

by MontrealMets on Nov 3, 2025 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What injury
"Don't forget the Rays injured duo of Townsend and Niemann. "

Since when is Townsend hurt?

In good news Niemann's TJ is supposed to be pretty routine and he'll be as good as ever in 12 mo

by nms on Nov 3, 2025 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

Other way around
Niemann had a sore shoulder most of the year.  He did have surgery, but it was to clean some stuff up in his shoulder (I don't think there was structural damage), he'll be ready for Spring Training.

Townsend is the one who had TJ.  He will not be back next year.  And with him, new wasn't all that good this year.

Here's a link for Townsend:
http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.asp?sport=MLB&leaguenum=&id=830 0

Here's a link for Niemann:
http://rays.tbo.com/rays/MGB5EBOL7FE.html

Chuck Lamar, you're fired- Stuart Sternburg

by Tyler on Nov 3, 2025 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Niemann
Niemann had his shoulder scoped.  While it probably means he'll be able to pitch without pain this year, that surgery almost universally hurts velocity a hair.  At least it's not nearly as big of a deal as an NBA player getting his knee scoped.

by Brickhaus on Nov 4, 2025 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

damn you...
...scott boras for once again screwing the mets (i am alluding to the "pay-rod" debacle of course)...if either stephen drew or jered weaver (or both!) hadn't been so damn scary to draft for financial reasons, they'd have gone in the top 3, bumping justin verlander down to us, instead of that walking joke, phillip humber (who will surprise me if he ever reaches the mets bullpen let alone their rotation)

and you too chuck lamar/jim duquette...i dont know who was the bigger idiot in this situation, the one who proposed the trade or the one who accepted it...ok i know, its the one who accepted it...damn you jim duquette, damn you

think about this mets fans: the mets could very very easily have had a staff in '06 that boasts not just scott kazmir but justin verlander too...these are the things that keep me up at night...

by Rob Castellano on Nov 4, 2025 12:50 AM EST reply actions  

or...
they could have just drafted drew or weaver, and then they'd have either drew or weaver instead of humber. the mets have the financial muscle, they just chose not to flex it. both of those guys ended up signing; it was merely a matter of time and aggravation.

by jpahk on Nov 4, 2025 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Pay-Rod?
Yeah, how dare that dastardly villain Boras get the biggest deal for his client! Shame, Mr. Boras, shame!
Go ahead and shoot your mouth off, like it might kill the silence.

by ESiegrist on Nov 4, 2025 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

or that...
id be fine with that too but with the fiasco that went on with arod a lot fresher in their memories, chances are the mets were not going to be the ones to satisfy any of scott boras' demands...but god i wish they did

by Rob Castellano on Nov 4, 2025 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Gomez as #1 prospect?
InsidePitchMagazine.com ranks Carlos Gomez as the Mets' top prospect, ahead of Milledge, Petit, Humber, et al.  The guy hit .275 with 8 home runs in low-A ball this year.  He's only 19, but does this even remotely make sense?  Milledge is just 8 months older, and put up better numbers in AA.  At 19, he tore up the same league Gomez just played in.

http://mets.scout.com/2/460589.html

by Straw18 on Nov 4, 2025 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

yeah
I asked them about it, and they said scouts told them he was the most talented player in the minor leagues or something.

Sounds like TOOOOOOOOOOLS!

by PooNani on Nov 4, 2025 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

geez
that's the dumbest thing i've heard since... well, i guess only since yesterday, when TO said that the eagles would be undefeated with favre instead of mcnabb.

lastings milledge is one of the toolsiest players around. great foot speed, great bat speed, great overall athlete. and he's produced, at a high level and at a young age. there are better prospects, but not many, and they're not hitting .275 in A ball.

by jpahk on Nov 5, 2025 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Josh Appell
John, any thoughts at this point on Josh Appell?  He's the little brother of a friend from high school...it's really early, but curious as to your thoughts.

by silvysilv on Nov 4, 2025 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

best name
Hands down...
Angel Pagan

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Nov 4, 2025 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

oops
oh wow...my memory failed me about those Rice guys.

thanks yall

by nms on Nov 4, 2025 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

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