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Not a Rookie: Jair Jurrjens

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Not a Rookie: Jair Jurrjens

Braves right-hander Jair Jurrjens has been one of the best young pitchers in the National League the last two seasons. He's had some shoulder trouble this spring, but the most recent reports indicate he should be ready for regular action the first week of April. I was never super-wild about Jurrjens as a prospect. I liked him, but I thought he would need more development time than he received and thought his adjustment to the majors would be more difficult. Let's take a look at his background and see how he developed.

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 Jair Jurrjens was signed by the Tigers as an undrafted free agent out of Curacao in 2003. He made his pro debut that summer in the Gulf Coast League at age 17, posting a 20/3 K/BB in 28 innings with a 3.21 ERA and 33 hits allowed. I didn't put him in the 2004 book but would have rated him a Grade C prospect if I had, as a guy who was hittable but had sharp command and youth. He didn't make the 2004 Baseball America Prospect Handbook, either, so I don't feel bad about not being on top of him at that point.

Jurrjens returned to the Gulf Coast League to begin 2004, going 4-2, 2.27 with a 39/10 K/BB in 40 innings and 25 hits allowed. Promoted to Oneonta in the New York-Penn League, he struggled against better competition, with a 5.31 ERA and a 31/10 K/BB in 39 innings with 50 hits allowed. The less-than-impressive numbers at the higher level kept him out of my '05 book, but Baseball America was on him at that point, ranking him at Number 22 in the Tigers system and noting his projectability. His fastball improved from 87-89 in '03 to 90-92, and he made progress with his secondary pitches, though BA also projected him more as a number four or five starter than an ace.

Jurrjens pitched for Class A West Michigan in the Midwest League in 2005, going 12-6, 3.41 with a 108/36 K/BB in 143 innings, 132 hits allowed.  His strikeout rate wasn't too good for the league context, but his K/BB was sharp. His velocity was erratic, ranging from 86 to 93 MPH, though he picked up a lot of grounders and made progress with his curveball and changeup. I gave him a Grade C+ in the 2006 book, writing that he "looks like a sleeper to me." I expected a consolidation season in '06, but wrote  that a breakthrough could come in 2007.

Jurrjens began 2006 with Lakeland in the Florida State League, going 5-9, 2.08 in 12 starts with a 59/10 K/BB in 74 innings, with 53 hits allowed. Promoted to Double-A Erie at mid-season, he adjusted well to the more advanced competition and went 4-3, 3.36 with a 53/21 K/BB in 67 innings, 71 hits allowed. His walk rate jumped up some (though it remained low overall). He did miss some time after being in a car accident, and there was some concern over a bout of shoulder soreness, but overall it was a successful season. I gave him a Grade B- in the 2007 book and mentioned that a larger breakthrough was still possible.

Returning to Double-A Erie for 2007, Jurrjens went 7-5, 3.20 with a 94/31 K/BB in 113 innings with 112 hits allowed. Promoted to Detroit, he went 3-1, 4.70 in seven starts, albeit with a weak 13/11 K/BB in 31 innings. The walks were fine, but I was concerned about the miniscule strikeout rate. He also missed two weeks of pitching time with a sore shoulder again. He was traded to Atlanta in the Edgar Renteria deal that fall. I gave him a Grade B in the 2008 book, writing that I liked him a lot, but felt he needed some Triple-A time and was worried about the shoulder. He also received a lot of pre-season hype heading into '08 (as is typical of young Braves starters) and I was concerned that people were overrating him.

As you know, Jurrjens was quite good as a rookie (13-10, 3.68, 139/70 K/BB in 188 innings, 3.59 FIP) and very effective last year as well (14-10, 2.60, 152/75 K/BB in 215 innings, 186 hits, 3.68 FIP). Note that his FIP last year was weaker than in '08 despite a much better ERA; looks like he had better defense/luck in '09. Jurrjens works now at 90-94 MPH, averaging 91 the last three seasons. He's developed a changeup, slider, and occasional cutter, but seldom throws the curveball he originally used in the lower minors.

Similar pitchers through age 23: Scott Sanderson, Andy Benes, Bill Gullickson, Mark Prior (uh, oh), Burt Hooten, Bump Hadley (veteran inning-eater from the 1920s/30s), Bob Welch, Kevin Appier, Sid Fernandez, and Fred Newman.All of those guys were very good pitchers, even excellent at times, though several of them had durability concerns, Prior and Newman (both burned out by age 26) most notably.

That is my main worry for Jurrjens going forward. This spring is the third season he's been bothered by shoulder issues, and while nothing has fallen apart yet, it is something to watch closely. If he does stay healthy, I like his chances to take a bigger step forward in the next year or two. If he can get the walk rate down, he could have a Cy Young-caliber season at some point.

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Cy Young caliber season?

I realize that there will be many who think Jurrjens is already a Cy contender, but I think this is going much too far. Even if he can get the walk rate down, Jurrjens is still a pitcher with an average/below average strikeout rate, who doesn’t get a significant number of ground balls.

I suspect you’re tempering your argument to avoid the “JURRJENS IS AN ACE!” comments that would come flooding in if you were completely honest, John, and I can understand that. I would rather have seen you come out and say that Jurrjens is a pretty good pitcher who has become ridiculously overrated because of two years of consecutive batted ball luck (most notably HR/F, but also BABIP) and strand rate. He doesn’t really do even one thing well, and those kind of guys aren’t an adjustment away from Cy Young seasons.

by PissedMick on Mar 24, 2026 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't really get the anti-Jurrjens sentiment among statheads

People carp about how “lucky” he’s been, but he’s put up back-to-back years of mid-3.00 FIPs and was only 23 this past year. That’s pretty frickin’ good for a young pitcher, even if he doesn’t do one thing that blows you away. If he improved on that (perhaps by improving his BB rate, as John suggests), that’d look to move him into ace territory (~3.00 FIP).

by aCone419 on Mar 24, 2026 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The stathead sentiment is based on metrics that evaluate his luck with HRs...

which is quite significant.

We’re talking xFIPs of ~4.00, which is a much uglier number than his FIPs show.

by PissedMick on Mar 24, 2026 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not convinced that there's much merit to xFIP

I don’t buy the notion that pitchers have zero effect on their HR/FB; or at least, I haven’t seen the case made well. And an xFIP of ~4.00 would still be above average anyway, assuming it is on the same scale as FIP.

by aCone419 on Mar 24, 2026 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stathead disconnect

I think this is someone you have to watch on a consistent basis to get an understanding of how he compiles these “lucky” statlines. Jurrjens has displayed an ability to pitch out of trouble and keep the homeruns down. Some may not believe in a pitchers ability to avoid disastrous innings, but from watching Jurrjens for two seasons now, I can say that he has this ability and its why his numbers are confusing.

An uptick in Ks and a slight decrease in BBs would definitely see him as a CY contender.

by JFP on Mar 25, 2025 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not even necessarily pitching out of trouble

Some pitchers legitimately are capable of that, and Jurrjens might be (though his LOB% was only significantly above average 2009, never really before). The idea is more that pitchers have very little control over the rate of fly balls that turn into home runs (very little =/= none). If a flyball pitcher has a K/BB around 2.00 (1.95 career, 2.03 in 2009), there’s just not enough left within the realm of controllability for him to become a legitimate upper tier pitcher.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 25, 2025 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

No, I’m being honest here. I DO think that Jurrjens could win a Cy Young if he gets the walks down and has a bit of luck. Bob Welch won a Cy Young award. Appier, Fernandez, and Benes were all capable of that kind of performance.

by John Sickels on Mar 25, 2025 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think it's silly for anyone to question whether you're given your honestly-held views -- that's what you do.

 I won’t wade into the question of whether Jurrgens can win a Cy Young.

But I thought it was interesting that you mentioned Bob Welch because he won in a year when there were clearly more effective pitchers, even on his own team — Welch just had the most wins and by a long-shot. Clemens that year had an ERA under 2 (and more than a full run better than Welch) had nearly twice s many strikeouts, half as many walks, etc. Dave Stewart beat Welch too by every measure but wins and Eckersley gave up 5 earned runs and 4 walks in 73 innings.

Given Greinke’s win last year, I think it’s safe to say that wins don’t hold anything close to the same sway they once held in Cy Young voting, and that were Welch to have been judged by today’s standards, he wouldn’t have come close to winning the Cy Young.

I’d agree Appier was capable of winning a Cy Young and in 1993 lost out to an undeserving Jack McDowell (who led the league in wins but nothing else), though Randy Johnson and his 308 strikeouts could make a claim too.

El Sid was fun to watch as a Mets fan and out up some spectacular strikeout numbers and exceptionally low hits-per-inning but he problems with control and endurance got in the way.

by Rotofan on Mar 25, 2025 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Appier seems like a good comp, actually

low 90s fastball w/ slider combo, though I think Appier threw a forkball more than a changeup. Appier also had the wacky delivery. But in terms of stat lines, they’re pretty close so far in their career, and I could see Jurrjens continuing along the same lines, staying in the 9 H/9 and 3-3.5 BB/9 area until he hits his early 30s, putting up solid wins and decent ERA #s, with a couple top tier seasons.

by PrincetonCubs on Mar 24, 2026 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bump Hadley

That’s a new one on me. Wasn’t he in To Kill a Mockingbird?

by wobatus on Mar 24, 2026 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bump Hadley

A Strat-O guy knows him instantly, Washington Senators early career when he had a pretty good fastball and was a better than average a little better out of pen. As he moved on the hitters parks with Browns and Yankees his era rose accordingly. Even on the Yankees he didn’t have that great of success, ings eater is a good discription lost his fastball somewhere and seems to have become a bit of a junkballer according 1937 Who’s Who in major Leagues.
In 36 and 39 he made great starts in each World series

161-165 record 4.24 era (mostly in a strong pitchers park Griffith Stadium- in Washington he was frequently in top 5 of least homers allowed per 9 as well a K’s per 9- stadium was huge though) Things changed when he got traded, seemed to become a different type of pitcher

Similar pitchers Mike Moore Mike Torrez Jim Slaton

by ribman on Mar 25, 2025 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting
His 1939 was maybe a rare instance of a k/bb/9 rate of 3.8/5 but an era+ of 132. And yup, a low homer rate. And an extremely low babip. He gave up 170 walks once in about 250 innings. Just a different era.

by wobatus on Mar 25, 2025 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JJ

is very underrated, I wanted to draft him this year for roto baseball. but when I heard “MRI”, and “shoulder” in the same sentence I backed off. He might very well be a candidate for CY Award one day, but he’s better than Bob Welch.

Speaking of undeserving awards, Welch won the award that year because of the rare 27 wins, he was not as good as some other pitchers that year.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Mar 27, 2025 10:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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