Padres MOD Thread
Hello and welcome to the San Diego Padres MOD thread for the 2012 Minor League Ball Mock Draft! It's going to be a very busy day . . .the Padres have the Nos. 7, 33, 44, 55, 66, 70, and 102 selections. With so much work, this is going to require the "big board" approach . . .and we've got to do it in 20 days. So, good times. To make things easier, I'm kicking off discussion by choosing to focus on the three top 50 picks at first, and then we're get into the others as the top of the board solidifies.
I'm sure the No. 7 pick will get a lot of talk, and understandably so. Here is who I am anticipating going in the first 6 picks right now, in some order, and I don't believe they will be available:
Kevin Gausman, Marc Appel, Carlos Correa, Lucas Giolito, Byron Buxton, Mike Zunino
All will nonetheless be placed on the big board.
Right now, here's five players who are under serious consideration for the No. 7 pick:
Gavin Cecchini, SS, Louisiana HS - Can he stick at shortstop? I think he has a shot, and I love his bat. Many projections have him going in the middle of the first round, but I don't care about projections. Cecchini has a lot of upside with decent polish for his age, at the most desirable position on the field IMO.
Mike Zimmer, RHP, U of San Francisco - Probably the pick if we roll closest to consensus. Frontline starter potential, prototype build, two great pitches. I can see a good argument for him being the second best college arm in the draft - at No. 7 in the draft, it's rare to get an opportunity to add an impact arm like this.
Courtney Hawkins, OF, Texas HS - Toolshed with potential game-changer power would sex up the Padres system in a hurry. Very good intuition about him. Probably not playing CF in Petco, but would be plus in a corner. Other bonus: he shouldn't be a problem to sign in this slot and could give us the flexibility to look more at the HS ranks with other picks.
Ty Hensley, RHP, Oklahoma HS - He's got the combination of present velocity and future projection I look for, but there's already some polish to go with a big frame. I see some similarities to Jacob Turner here.
Deven Marrero, SS, Arizona State - This one gets way too much grief. He can play a good shortstop, he's relatively polished coming from a big program, and I think he's a better hitter than his numbers suggest. He'll definitely play in the majors and probably won't take too long to be ready.
At Nos. 33 and 44, business is going to pick up. I'm of the belief that you can never have too many quality shortstops, and it'd be nice to add one in this deep class, especially if we don't find ourselves with one after the No. 7 pick. I'm very fond of Ole Miss SS Nolan Fontana, prep SS (but probably 3B ultimately) Tanner Rahier, and prep SS Jesmuel Valentin. I'm even considering Fontana as a dark horse at No. 7, and would be all over him at No. 33. Rahier may be gone, his bat is very intriguing and I'm big on high makeup players. Valentin would be a sneaky pick but with his potential to be above-average both offensively and defensively, I won't hesitate to pull the trigger.
To get off the subject of shortstops, Georgia LHP Alex Wood is under serious consideration at No. 33, he's got a first round arm and issues with consistency. Texas OF Nick Williams is raw as hell but has top-of-the-draft upside but will probably be gone by No. 33 - if he's not, there's a good chance he'll be the pick. Texas A&M OF Tyler Naquin hits the crap out of the ball and I'm intrigued with the idea of adding him. It'd be great if at least one of 33 or 44 could be a pitcher, preferably a prep - we need to think about signability.
I'll add more thoughts on more players as we progress (and to keep you all up to date, I'll add the link to the MOD thread to my signature for easy access), but for now I'll put up the initial big board, which will grow over time.
SAN DIEGO PADRES MOCK DRAFT BIG BOARD
1. Kevin Gausman, RHP, LSU
2. Carlos Correa, SS, Puerto Rico HS
3. Byron Buxton, OF, Georgia HS
4. Lucas Giolito, RHP, California HS (assumes he checks out healthy - main ding is for potential for future injury)
5. Marc Appel, RHP, Stanford 6. Mike Zunino, C, Florida
7. Gavin Cecchini, SS, Louisiana HS
8. Courtney Hawkins, OF, Texas HS
10. Ty Hensley, RHP, Oklahoma HS
11. Deven Marrero, SS, Arizona State
12. Mike Zimmer, RHP, U of San Francisco
13. Trey Williams, 3B, California HS
14. Max Fried, LHP, California HS
15. Lance McCullers, RHP, Florida HS
16. Addison Russell, SS/3B, HS
17. Lewis Brinson, OF, Georgia HS
18. Cody Poteet, RHP, California HS
19. Dylan Baker, RHP, Western Nevada CC
20. Nolan Fontana, SS, Florida
21. Edwin Perez, RHP, Puerto Rico HS
22. Michael Wacha, RHP, Texas A&M
23. Nick Travieso, RHP, California HS
24. Tanner Rahier, SS/3B, HS
25. Richie Schaffer, 3B, Clemson
26. Jesmuel Valentin, SS, Puerto Rico HS
27. Stryker Strahan, C/OF, HS
28. Fernando Perez, 3B, Community College
29. Chris Stratton, RHP, Mississippi State
30. Stephen Piscotty, 3B, Stanford
31. Chris Beck, RHP, Georgia Southern
32. Duane Underwood, RHP, HS
33. Joey Dimichelle, 2B/3B, Arizona State
34. Alex Wood, LHP, Georgia
35. Lucas Sims, RHP, Georgia HS
36. Tyler Naquin, OF, Texas A&M
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Hello
not really sure how all of this works, really interested to watch all of this. My two cents on the first round pick are simply that we appear to have most of our young guys coming around in the next couple years, so I’ve felt Deven Marrero might be the best pick for us, simply as he’ll be ready to come up and play soon and fill an obvious need for the team (MI). Not at all an expert on all this stuff, just my opinion.
As I said, excited to watch all of this unfold!
by Noah McKinnie Braun on May 8, 2025 1:25 AM EDT reply actions
sure, welcome to the party
It’s actually pretty simple. While I’m in charge of organizing everything and of making the final call on the picks, we all share thoughts and ideas about what we can do with our picks. I definitely have my opinions, but generally I am a big proponent of incorporating the input of everybody who contributes into the overall strategy. And then on May 26, all the “directors” are going to show up and the draft is going to occur in real-time on a thread, moderated by John. Previous mock drafts are still in the archives if you’re curious to see how it plays out, but it’s a lot of fun, with plenty of shocking picks, hilarious back-and-forth, and a lot of review afterwards to see what we all came up with.
If it’s any help, very few of us are experts . . .part of the process is delving into everything to try to learn as much about all the players as possible. I’ve actually been reading scouting reports (some of the time) and watching video (a lot of the time) this entire evening to start working out our draft plans.
I actually like Marrero a whole lot and I agree, he should move pretty fast. I would disagree that we should be looking to draft him specifically to fill a major league need, though - I don’t want to compromise on quality at any point in the draft, and I’m not sure that Marrero will make the difference between the Padres winning or losing in the next few years anyways. If we take him, we need to justify it on the grounds that he’s the best player at that slot. The other problem is that we’d likely send Marrero to Lake Elsinore next year - and Jace Peterson, currently our best SS prospect, should spend at least part of the year there.
I personally like Cecchini a little more than Marrero. His bat has substantially more impact potential. While he may shift off shortstop, he won’t have to do it in the near future and he has the raw tools to handle the position adequately. He has a solid floor for a prep player, which I think is important at this draft slot. I’m thinking that we should emphasize the selection of a player who is both high upside and high floor. Marrero is the second but probably not the first. I think Cecchini can be both. Do we have other candidates that would qualify as both?
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless someone big slips
It’s gotta be a SS for the first round.
After that I suspect some college arms and some more middle infield help.
GO Friars
by mrbarneydangles on May 8, 2025 1:50 AM EDT reply actions
it's funny that you say that
The Minor League Ball Mock Draft is always about UPSIDE, especially near the top of the draft. I personally would be shocked if Correa makes it to 7, I just can’t see it happening. I think there is a small chance that both Correa AND Cecchini are taken before No. 7, but if this scenario played out, that would mean one of my top 6 are still on the board, and we’ll have the opportunity to take a premium player. I’m actually okay with not taking a shortstop immediately, although I agree that adding middle infield help would be ideal in a draft this rich with up-the-middle talent. At 33, I’d like to take a long look at the college shortstop Fontana (although I think he is a surprise candidate to go late first) as well as Tanner Rahier, whose bat I am high on. The crew out of Virginia is all intriguing as well, but I’m unwilling to reach strictly to fill a need.
Who do you like as far as college arms go? If we’re still inside the top 60 I think we can proceed as if most preps will still be signable, which gives us some flexibility. I like RHP Dylan Baker, LHP Alex Wood, and LHP Brian Johnson among initial candidates in the college crew. Out of HS, I think RHP Duane Underwood might be a steal if we can land him at 33, and LHP Hunter Virant is my type of HS southpaw.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Under the new CBA, no organization will have as much flexibility as the Padres with their slot totals. Given that - and what they did last year - I’d look for an aggressive approach from the team in real life. Given the dynamics of the minorleagueball community, I’d expect you to have to be even more aggressive, as there are probably a few scouting directors who’d take 14 year olds if they were aloud to!
I’m a Cecchini honk in general, but Hawkins would be hard to pass up here, especially given the route the organization took last year.
by realitypolice on May 8, 2025 8:54 AM EDT reply actions
Aloud? Really???
I’ll blame it on the cold meds if you will allow it.
by realitypolice on May 8, 2025 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Incidentally
Grandbaby Goose doesn’t merit top 11 for you? I still think he has a pretty good chance to be the best HS RHP in the class.
by realitypolice on May 8, 2025 9:40 AM EDT reply actions
I'm not sure who you are talking about
McCullers? Not real high on him . . .I’ll be fleshing out the board some more today and we’ll see where he stacks. He is substantially more risky than I think we need to go early on to get a high upside player - one of Hawkins or Almora would work.
You are definitely right about having to be aggressive with regard to upside-oriented players, but that might open up some things for us as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if a quality college arm with a mid-first grade makes it to us at 33, and if that were to happen I think we could consider using 44 and 55 on prep players. If others want to overdraft upside, I’m all for playing the draft and cashing in on quality players with safer profiles.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes McCullers
When his dad became the closer in San Diego in 1987, given the shoes (and mustache) he was filling, he was dubbed “Baby Goose”
I agree that taking him seven would be too high, but I just have a sneaking suspicion someone picking in the low-teens will give him a chance to start, and will be VERY happy with the results.
In general, I’m onboard with your approach with the other early picks. The other choice along those lines would be to target James Ramsey at 55 or 66.
by realitypolice on May 8, 2025 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
love the stuff, but scary how bad his command is
Not that he needs to be a finished product.
If we land Cecchini at 7, I think 33 will probably be used on a pitcher. I could see one of Chris Beck or Chris Stratton sneak over to us at that pick, and either of them would be no-brainer picks IMO. Alex Wood would also work but fits the high-upside mold and could easily go before that point.
I’m trying to come up with ideas for players to target at 44 . . .I’ve been working the college pitching ranks pretty hard. Vanderbilt LHP Sam Selman looks very interesting. RHP Pierce Johnson had a forearm strain and missed a couple of weeks but appears to be okay, and his stuff is first round caliber. RHP Braden Kline from Virginia is a nice blend of safe and upside.
On the high school side of things at 44, OF Lewis Brinson might not get there but is a nice projection position player. RHP Nick Travieso has good stuff. If SS Jesmuel Valentin isn’t gone yet, I’d be all over him even if we take a SS at No. 7.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
How is Marrero doing this year? I can't find his 2012 stats
but his 2011 with the new bats put up a big red flag for me. I don’t like him at 7. For SS, I only like Correa at 7. Correa there is BPA, whereas Marrero there, to me, feels like organizational need.
I also think Correa could be there, in which case he would be my pick.
by walnut falcons on May 8, 2025 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
marrero
.276/.335/.414 right now. 15/13 BB/K.
I don’t believe there is any chance that Correa will be available here. In this wide-open a draft and with the proclivities of the Minor League Ball community, I wouldn’t be surprised if he went first overall. I bet his floor will be No. 4. Lots of hype on him, and I think John spooked a lot of people when he said he liked Correa’s hitting ability more than Buxton’s.
I’m okay with no Correa, he does carry significant risks that I suspect are being overlooked. I feel Cecchini is a safer pick, but I’m 50/50 on whether or not he’ll be available at No. 7.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
big board updated - May 8th
I’ve started the process of really getting a substantial number of players up on the board. A lot is going to shift over time, but I wanted to give us a starting place. Date of big board update will be given in my signature so you’ll know when you need to check it out. We now have 36 players on the board - if we didn’t do anything else from this point onward, we’d have a resource that can get us through at least our first two picks, the quality of those picks aside.
After hearing some of the initial feedback, I’ve made a few adjustments. Assuming the first six players go off the board, we’ll be targeting prep SS Gavin Cecchini at No. 7. If Cecchini is off the board, I would move on one of the other players above him on this list - the only one I’m not sure on right now is Mike Zunino. I’m not a big Zunino fan and we have a prospect in Austin Hedges who will be playing at Lake Elsinore next year. Do we take Zunino anyways and slate him to start next year in Double A? Otherwise, our likely targets would be OF Courtney Hawkins or Duke RHP Marcus Stroman, who I’ve been reading/watching a lot of. I don’t want to take a college pitcher early unless he has impact talent, and Stroman has that.
At 33, I would guess that the pick will likely be a prep pitcher. My review suggests that Cali RHP Cody Poteet is an underrated arm - he has the potential for multiple strong pitches, some projection, solid velocity and good athleticism. One pop up guy is Edwin Perez, a hard-throwing Puerto Rican pitcher, and he is also under consideration. I haven’t reviewed the other Puerto Rican pitcher yet, but he may slot in or above these two. If we want to look at the college ranks, I like CC pitcher Dylan Baker’s fastball/breaking balls combo, and he has an ideal build. If we want to diversify with a little less risk, RHPs Chris Stratton and Chris Beck may both be available. Beck is suffering from a little prospect fatigue but is still a decent arm, and Stratton has been redhot and may go higher than this in the actual draft.
Some of these players may still be available at No. 44, but there are other options as well. I like CC 3B Fernando Perez a lot - a little bit of Lonnie Chisenhall (in a good way) in him. I’m on record as liking Puerto Rico SS Jesmuel Valentin. Prep RHP Nick Travieso has a great arm. I love Arizona State infield Joey Dimichelle - great bat from a strong college program would be a safe pick, a little along the lines of a Jedd Gyorko.
Thoughts on any of the above, the big board strategy, or additional players we want to look at? I’d like to build out to 50 in the next day or two.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
couple more notes for the moment
If Lucas Giolito doesn’t go in the first 6 picks, are we on board with taking him?
A guy I’m taking a long look at for Nos. 44 and (depending on how much “money” we have left to spend) 55 is California HS LHP Cole Irvin. Tall, lots of projection, multiple solid offerings including the all-important CH from the left side.
You may notice that OK State LHP Andrew Heaney is not on the list. He’ll be on here, but I currently have him as a supplemental round talent. I love safe but I’m not as enthused with his offerings and motion as many seem to be.
What I’d like to start hearing are reasons why we SHOULDN’T take some of these guys. When we start hitting on guys that we have minimal concerns about, we’ve got our picks already in the bag and waiting to be delivered.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If Giolito is there at 7 I would take him.
by walnut falcons on May 8, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
Here’s how I envision a potential draft going assuming Cecchini is on the board. Let’s see how we’d feel about something like this through our 4th pick, and that might give some useful feedback:
1.7 - Gavin Cecchini, SS, Louisiana HS
1.33 - Chris Stratton, RHP, Mississippi State
1.44 - Cody Poteet, RHP, California HS
1.55 - Joey Dimichelle, 2B/3B, Arizona State
Here’s how I might play it with the Giolito scenario:
1.7 - Lucas Giolito, RHP, California HS
1.33 - Jesmuel Valentin, SS, Puerto Rico HS OR Cory Seager, SS, North Carolina HS OR Nolan Fontana, SS, Florida
1.44 - Duane Underwood, RHP, HS (in event of college selection @ 33) OR Fernando Perez, 3B, Community College
1.55 - Brady Rogers, RHP, Arizona State
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, almost forgot
Here’s a “Hawkins Scenario”, involving some other players on my mind:
1.7 - Courtney Hawkins, OF, Texas HS
1.33 - Tanner Rahier, 3B, HS
1.44 - Chris Beck, RHP, Georgia Southern (I think there’s a decent chance he’ll be here) OR Sam Selman, LHP, Vanderbilt
1.55 - Cole Irvin, LHP, California HS (Rahier may cost extra, but Hawkins and Irvin should be easy signs at their slots)
One area I’m struggling, perhaps not surprisingly, is finding college bats that I like. I have a good number of college pitchers to target, including some that might surprise by jumping the consensus curve a bit.
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by mrkupe on May 8, 2025 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
My two cents.
This is still a deep system. However, there a lot of high polish/low upside types. There should be enough to keep the major league team stocked. Now is the time to start taking chances on low polish/high upside types. I want toolsy OF’s. I want hard throwers with developing secondaries. We can afford to roll the dice for a few drafts on the best available talents. Let’s try and land the next Trout or Moore. If they bust, so be it. Upside and potential are the key.
I don’t agree we are required to draft a SS anymore. There seems to be enough in the system to hold us over. Between Parrino, Amarista, Cabrera, Peterson, Weems, and maybe Spangenberg in a pinch, we have enough to cover the position. The only scenario where we draft a MI I could accept is if he has the highest upside possible with the pick. I don’t think Marrero is that guy.
To wit, F-it, if Gio is there let’s draft him. If he’s taken, we can go David Dahl or Byron Buxton. Beyond that, I’m not sure. I would defer to you Kupe with the request that we go high upside with our considerations.
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by padmadfan on May 9, 2025 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
I like Courtney Hawkins as well, that's a great name to consider.
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by padmadfan on May 9, 2025 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
I agree we don’t need to bring in a shortstop - if there’s a quality prospect at one of our picks then so be it, but I’m not going to change the plan midstream and affect the quality we get just to bring in somebody. I plan on having a strong sense of who we are going with at each slot well in advance and only deviating from that plan in the event that there is a major and unexpected drop. Which could happen with some of the safer college types.
Dahl is interesting but will need work in the pros to hit for power. He’s going to be a RF, maybe a LF but a good one defensively. We could look at him if he is on the board at 33 or 44, and he represents a nice blend of upside and safety in a prep package. Frankly he reminds me a bit of Blake Tekotte, take that for what you will. Buxton I’d be all over if he was there at 7, his upside is enormous.
Anticipating drafting upside will be tough - basically everybody on Minor League Ball wants upside, lol. We have some options, though. Nick Williams has awesome upside but might not make it out of A ball. Mitchell Traver is a big dude and has impressive stuff. Alex Wood is a lefty who can bump it into the mid-90s. Dylan Baker has a hell of an arm. DJ Davis, if he’s at 33, would be a big upside play. The two Puerto Rican pitchers are both ones to watch.
Another kid we might want to think about, although he’s more a candidate for pick 55, is the RHP from St. Edward’s. I actually know exactly where that is; it’s in Austin, which happens to be where I live for the next couple of months. He’s very raw and would be a project but has an impressive arm - think a less physical version of RHP Jacob Petricka, a 2nd rounder from a couple of years ago by the White Sox.
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by mrkupe on May 9, 2025 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Big Board Movement
I’d move Max Fried way up the Big Board-in fact, I think that he might be gone by the time that we select. Keith Law has him 5th and says that at least two teams say they would consider him at 1-1. We’d be really lucky if he fell to us, IMO.
I’d be a little bummed with Ceccini at 1-7. I agree that SS is a priority; I’d just rather not reach with that first pick. Correa would obviously be my first choice, but I’d take Almora, Zimmer, or Gioloto over Ceccini.
Could you talk a little about what you see in Trey Williams and Ty Hensley? You seem to be quite a bit over consensus (at least that I’ve seen-for example, Law has Williams at 82 and Hensley in the thirties).
My dream scenario includes
7-Correa, Almora, Zimmer, Gioloto, Ceccini, Hawkins
33-Rahier, Beck, Stratton, Virant, Wieckel, Hensley
44-I like Poteet as well. The other HS MIF that you mentioned have some appeal as well.
55-DJ Davis, Lovegrove, lots of other names that are appealing.
by Paul R. on May 9, 2025 1:04 AM EDT reply actions
fried, williams, hensley
I like Fried but I don’t love him, not without more information on a couple of things. I’m not sold on his command, I’m not sure where his velocity sits (I’ve seen low 90s but have also seen high 80s-low 90s), and I want more info on his non-CB secondaries. I could be persuaded on him but to take a prep lefty this high you really have to believe in the command, and I’m lukewarm on it.
I’m cooling a little on Zimmer for this pick. Pure power but a little raw in a few areas. He is definitely upside-oriented, but I think Stroman is the better pitcher and better overall stuff with the exception of FB. Stroman’s size hurts perceptions of him but if we want to go bold for upside while still having some safety, he’s a nice one.
I prefer Hawkins to Almora. Almora is the more true CF, but Hawkins has impressive power.
Williams I’m actually on dropping significantly - I buy his tools and think he is dropping more due to perceived makeup issues, but I’m not sure he will be signable in the end the way things are going for him.
Hensley I like a lot. Big body, good present velocity and a little room for more, secondaries that need to get more consistent but have potential. Similar to Jacob Turner and Phil Hughes back in the day.
I like your thoughts. We might have to pull the string on Poteet at 33, but at 44 I would consider him a steal. I don’t think DJ Davis will be around at 55, he’d be a great target for 33 if he was there. I’m trying to dig up info on Lovegrove.
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by mrkupe on May 9, 2025 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I should say, though
Care to make the case for Almora and/or Fried? A lot of these guys are very close at this point, but I think the sooner we get settled on the top of the draft, the sooner we can start isolating the guys we want to pick up with those other picks. That will be much less predictable and the preparation will have to be better.
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by mrkupe on May 9, 2025 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Max Fried and Chris Beck
Are the kind of players I want to avoid with the 7th pick. I think think both will be successful, Meh pitchers. Decent 3rd starters and safe-ish picks. I’d rather go Stroman if were taking a pitcher. I might even consider Giolito even if he needs TJS. That’s how crazy I’m feeling.
1.7 Buxton, Hawkins, Stroman, Zimmer.
Very nice upside potential there and low probability of a wasted pick.
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by padmadfan on May 9, 2025 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been researching Fried (while writing up a paper and a project proposal!) and
I do have to say he has a lot of the things I look for. Above-average present velocity with the potential for more, great breaking ball, potential for a strong change, very athletic. My issues with him at present are that while his control should be good-to-excellent, I’m not yet sold on his command, and he doesn’t have elite velocity. We wouldn’t be getting Clayton Kershaw or even Tyler Matzek here, stuff-wise. That said, the talk that teams would consider him at No. 1 is quite the indication that the draft boards are very fluid. Fried does have the potential to be a very, very good pitcher and should be at least decent.
I’m high on Stroman. If he was 6’3" he’d be the favorite to go No. 1 in this draft, that’s how good his game is across-the-board. He’s not as much pop-up as you might think because he’s been a name for a while. I said this before, but if we go college arm it’s got to be somebody who doesn’t have just good aspects of his game, but great aspects. Zimmer might have that. Appel does not and is getting downgraded slightly. Stroman does - I might push him to the top of the board, even (he was supposed to be No. 9 on the current list).
This class is rather weak in players with good power grades, but Hawkins is one of those players. I think he’s pretty comparable to Pirates OF Josh Bell from a year ago, but could easily have the same plate discipline flaw. Cecchini has okay power but probably needs an optimistic assessment to get to average. There is a LOT of variability re: his ability to stick at short . . .and after watching a lot of video of him, I can see why. Range and arm are both going to have to be proven at the pro level, but I’m sure he’ll get chances. He’s got a lot of similarities to Nick Franklin.
My personal guess is that Giolito is going to pitch a few times before the draft and look a little rusty but generally fine, at least fine enough for him to convince one of the folks ahead of us to bite the upside bullet. If somebody doesn’t take him, it’ll be because his return will have gone terribly wrong and he’ll be headed IRL to UCLA. Not that I’m afraid to jump on tough signs . . .I took Ryne Stanek 2 years ago and he ended up at Arkansas, where he’s likely to be a top 5-10 pick in the 2013 draft. Oh well.
So, yeah. Personal feeling right now is that the only college arms I want at this pick are Gausman (not gonna happen) and Stroman (maybe, maybe not). If we want the upside play here then we look at the prep ranks. Fried, Hawkins, Almora, Cecchini and hope he sticks @ SS, or (dare I say it) Lance McCullers.
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by mrkupe on May 9, 2025 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
adding a quick update to refer to the supplemental mock draft posted on the front page
And, well, crap. The John/Matt combination basically nailed 80 percent of the guys I was looking at . . .which of course means there will be people hoping for the scoop by grabbing these guys 2-5 picks before us, lol.
I’d actually love the Naquin pick, he’s one of the few decent college bats out there. Not a chance Underwood makes it to 55 in this draft, we’d have to pop him at 44 or maybe even 33. I’m willing to go prep at 33 but the problem is that I suspect a lot of college talent is going to go off the board in the 30-45 range (teams with multiple picks looking to justify their prep picks budget-wise). So, yeah.
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by mrkupe on May 9, 2025 8:59 AM EDT reply actions
Mock Draft Update - thru pick 33 + 1
Going to update down here, because updating posts gets really weird with the HTML code needed . . .lots of inadvertent paragraph tags that need to be knocked out.
So I’ve done a lot of thinking, and honestly the more I think about it the more I think RHP Marcus Stroman can really be something unique. His performance this year is exceptional, his stuff is outstanding, and he works off of athleticism and arm strength, not effort. I’m really down to five players as I don’t think Kyle Zimmer (yes, I botched more than a few names here) has the total package I would want out of a college RHP in this slot. We’re looking at Stroman, Hawkins, Fried, Almora, and Cecchini. All have questions. Stroman has his height. Hawkins has questions about his approach and pure hitting ability. Fried is a little reliant on projection. Almora has awesome tools and a better approach than Hawkins but is more of a gap power guy. Cecchini is a question mark to stick at shortstop, and there is substantial question in my mind as to whether he is a “great” hitter or merely a good one.
All top draft prospects look pretty good; if they didn’t, they wouldn’t be top draft prospects. What I’m looking to do is find reasons not to take certain players, particularly in relation to draft slot. For instance, I’m not real high on college 3B Steve Piscotty . . .honestly, in an average draft this guy is a supplemental round talent. If he got to 33, that might work, but he ain’t getting to 33. Keep that in mind and let’s start nailing some guys for their flaws and eliminating them from consideration at certain spots.
1. Marcus Stroman, RHP, Duke
2. Kevin Gausman, RHP, LSU
3. Byron Buxton, OF, Georgia HS - I think concerns about his hitting ability are overblown
4. Max Fried, LHP, California HS - surprised? I’m struggling to find reasons not to like him, even if there are reasons not to love him
5. Carlos Correa, SS/3B, Puerto Rico HS - hitting ability a little overhyped, and big 17 year old isn’t as smooth as Manny Machado was last year
6. Albert Almora, OF, Florida HS - I think his game is better suited for an NL West team than Hawkins, and while his floor is very high, there is a chance that his tools are underappreciated. big ? that could slide him down: power?
7.Lucas Giolito, RHP, California HS - If he’s healthy, he’ll never get here. If he’s not healthy, we don’t want him anyways. He’s got a great arm but I’m skeptical everything will line up. But hey, you never know, and this is a safe place to keep him in mind.
8.Courtney Hawkins, OF, Texas HS - A bit of a boom or bust. Could be an elite offensive player with plus defense. Could end up doing nothing. Big upside play, but I don’t think a couple of weeks of an improved approach should fool us.
9. Gavin Cecchini, SS, Louisiana HS - No standout tools, and I feel like some may be projecting things for him that just aren’t there. I do like him a lot, but if he’s a 2B with an okay bat in the end then we can do better.
10. Mike Zimmer, RHP, San Francisco - Pure power with a good idea of what to do with his first two pitches. Not sure he has a very workable changeup in him.
11. Marc Appel, RHP, Stanford - There is a chance that he blows up in the pros, and a much greater chance that he is just decent and pitches less than the sum of his parts. Lack of consistency is not a huge problem in my mind, that goes for many college pitchers, most of them less talented than Appel.
12. Tanner Rahier, SS, HS - Surprised again? I can’t find things to complain about here. I don’t think he’s that far behind Cecchini, and if you project Cecchini to definitely move off SS then Rahier’s bat makes him the superior prospect. My preferred target du jour at 33.
13. Richie Shaffer, 3B, Clemson - No, I don’t know where he’s going to play in the end. But he has impact power and bat speed, and that makes him good enough to go here. If I knew he could play 3B or even a passable OF, he’d be in the No. 7 mix, but I don’t believe that one will be proven any time soon, if at all.
14. Lewis Brinson, OF, North Carolina HS - Holy crap, look at this kid. Awesome power projection, very athletic, great speed. Very high upside - similar players have gone higher than this in better drafts.
15. Mike Zunino, C, Florida - Yeah, I know. He can catch and he can hit for some power. He has a lot of swing and miss and that’s not likely to get a whole lot better with playing a pro season.
16. Ty Hensley, RHP, Oklahoma HS - I’ve come down off my cloud a bit and I recognize he is a work in progress with some mechanical roughness. Still got the size, the velocity, and the good pitch mix.
17. Duane Underwood, RHP, Georgia HS - A little raw, but the “up and down” talk about him reminds me a lot of Taijuan Walker a couple of years ago, and we’ve seen how that one looks. First round pure talent with wide range of outcomes, good and bad.
18. Nick Travieso, RHP, Florida HS - Some have suggested his delivery has effort. I would say the kid’s been up to 97 this year, there damn well better be effort. Ideal pitcher’s frame. Got an Alex Fernandez comp from the ever-trusty xmlbscout.
19. DJ Davis, OF, HS - Toolshed. Biggest question, can he really hit? Elite speedster. That’s a whole lotta upside.
20. Deven Marrerro, SS, Arizona State - I still think he can hit. I’m more concerned about his lack of patience. I think he motors through A ball and has people raving about him, then he drops back to the earth quickly in AA. He doesn’t lack for talent, it’s his approach that’s killing him. I don’t see how it gets better and it limits his ceiling.
21. Alex Wood, LHP, Georgia - 2010 Tommy John survivor who still battles inconsistency, that’s the bad part. The good part is that he can pitch in the mid-90s and has multiple good offerings. In most drafts he’d be a first round arm with questions that push him down. But not here!
22. Tyler Naquin, OF, Texas A&M - Too bold? Maybe, we’ll see what you guys think. Terrific pure hitter, should play good D, one of the few truly safe bats in the class. Not high upside, but should be at least a decent starter.
23. Cory Seager, SS, North Carolina HS - Fast riser and for good reason. Kid can hit. Probably not playing SS, more of a 3B, but has strong feel for hitting and should be a very well-rounded player in the end.
24. Rio Ruiz, 3B, California HS - Would have to get him at 33 to be sure we landed him, but he’s a first round talent with fluky injuries. Again, in such a year, I’m not worried. Has the extra benefit of being a Cali kid, nice for perception of signability.
25. Chris Stratton, RHP, Mississippi State - Safe pick but he’s got what you want out of a RHP. Solid FB, good breaking ball, a couple more solid offerings. Has really come into his own this year - does that mean he’s a one year wonder, or is he undervalued? Maybe both?.
26. Nolan Fontana, SS, Florida - He has some serious skills, although I don’t get the impression he’s exceptional anywhere. Am I overvaluing him here because of positional scarcity?
27. Michael Wacha, RHP, Texas A&M - I bet you were wondering where he was. Big body, good FB, favored secondary is his change, and questions with breaking stuff. That sounds like an innings-eater without much upside to me. He knows how to pitch, though.
28. Cody Poteet, RHP, California HS - Kind of reminds me a bit of Texas RHP prospect Cody Buckel. Has three quality pitches, still considerable projection here, strong athlete. Ceiling may be called into question.
29. Steve Piscotty, 3B, Stanford - I don’t trust his power. Pure hitter but overvalued due to scarcity of college bats this year.
30. Walker Weickel, RHP, Florida HS - Off year, but it’s not like the stuff has sucked, and he’s a growing kid. May represent a steal @ 33 if he is there. Still, we’d have to ask if we’re buying on the way up or the way down.
31. David Dahl, OF, Alabama HS - Should hit a ton of line drives, not sure about HRs. Tools are generally good, not great.
32. Dylan Baker, RHP, Western Nevada - I could see a case for him being 15 spots higher, but two problems. One, he’s only really emerged this year - will the stuff be there next year? Two, does he have a decent changeup? I could see him ending up slotting as a dynamite reliever.
33. Mitchell Traver, RHP, HS - BIG dude with projection. Not much info on him yet, but looks very interesting.
34. Chris Beck, RHP, Georgia Southern - A little underappreciated these days. Might not have a high ceiling, but should be a future contributor.
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by mrkupe on May 10, 2025 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
adding to this iteration of the big board to get us through pick 55
35. Lance McCullers, RHP, Florida HS - Forgot him last go around . . .stock seems to be markedly up. Stuff has always been there . . .is he somebody we can seriously consider at 7?
36. James Ramsey, OF, Florida State - I think he might be a little overvalued this year, again due to a lack of college bats. Not a great defensive fit for us.
37. Andrew Heaney, LHP, Oklahoma State - I think his game is more deception than stuff, but he does have a good idea of how to pitch and solid offerings. Write him in as a No. 4 or maybe No. 5 starter for a long while in the majors. The type of guy who slots in around this point, no matter how good the draft is.
38. Lucas Sims, RHP, Georgia HS - Solid two pitch mix and athletic, but would need projection to get beyond a No. 3 or (more likely) No. 4 starter future.
39. Carson Kelly, 3B, Oregon HS - A little raw, but two way player has some thunder in his bat. Could see him being a dark horse IRL for the Rays in round 1.
40. Travis Jankowski, OF, Stony Brook - A little bit of everything with him, I find him intriguing and wonder if he might be undervalued a bit due to his competition.
41. Stephen Bruno, SS, Virginia - Tools and production, health has been a little balky and has dropped his stock. A deceptively high ceiling player makes him a sneaky candidate for 44 if he’s on the board - but we’ll have to see if others agree.
42. Addison Russell, SS, HS - Nice raw power and some defensive tools. Much has been made about his weight - I don’t care as long as he’s ready to play in the end. I’d worry that if he fights to keep his weight down, though, that it might hurt his power projection.
43. Nick Williams, OF, Texas HS - I put him here, but really this kid will never get to us. He’s a lotto ticket and I think somebody will bite on him in the early 20s when they want upside and are unenthused by their options.
44. Zach Elfin, RHP, Florida HS - Already throws hard and stuff could get even better. Concerned about triceps tendonitis, hard to be too high on a kid who’s already having that type of issue.
45. Victor Roache, OF, Georgia Southern - Some people absolutely love him. I think he’s nice, but he had questions to answer before this year and the injury leaves them unanswered. I don’t care to be too aggressive on him.
46. Hunter Virant, LHP, Georgia HS - Young and almost entirely projection. I prefer to see a little more now out of my high round picks unless the upside is extremely high, and I don’t think that’s Virant.
47. Brian Johnson, LHP, Florida - Raw despite pitching in the SEC, talented, good way to straddle the line between safe and bold. Will probably take some development time.
48. Sam Selman, LHP, Vanderbilt - Doesn’t have the performance yet, but power and projection combo from the left side.
49. C.J. Hinojosa, 2B/SS, Texas HS - I’m unsure what to think with him. He is not going to be an easy sign and may well think that he’s better off going to UT. I like his bat a lot and could see putting him higher but I am hesitating.
50. Trey Williams, 3B, California HS - I’m getting the feeling that he could find his way to college, where he’d likely not lose stock and have a chance to really bump it. Has been a little off this year, but pure talent to be a quality bat is there.
51. Pierce Johnson, RHP, Missouri State - I might end up sticking him higher next go-around depending on how I feel about his health. Forearm strains often hint at future TJ, but an argument can be made that he’s the best of the second tier of college arms and a first round talent. Might be hard to pass on that.
52. Pete O’Brien, C, Miami - Feels low for him. I like him a lot and he’d be an easy sign, but beware of taking too much from the performance of college seniors. In real life, I think we’d have to pull the string on him at 33.
53. Edwin Diaz, RHP, Puerto Rico HS - Has hit 97 mph recently and has more of a prototype build than the other PR pitcher Berrios. As a PR arm, his development track will probably be a little slower than a lot of guys in this area.
54. Clate Schmidt, RHP, Georgia HS - I liked the Jake Odorizzi comparison that Matt Garrioch made on him, but a big part of Odo’s game is pitchability. Schmidt has some mechanical quirks. Stuff is decent and has room to improve.
55. Stryker Trahan, C/OF, HS - If anything, he’s going to end up lower on here. He’s a project defensively and catching will put a damper on his speed. I am not a big fan of prep catchers and I think he is particularly likely to bust. But upside? Yeah, there’s upside.
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by mrkupe on May 10, 2025 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
and we'll merge this together soon, but I'm going to stretch this out to 70 to get us through all but one of our picks
56. Matt Smoral, LHP, Ohio HS - As you may have noticed, I’ve been hesitating on integrating injured players into the list, wanting to see how the rest of the list shapes out. Big body, already has good stuff. Some concern about lingering impact of foot fracture in a body that big. That said, he has very substantial upside. North Carolina commit, not sure how his signability looks.
57. Jeff Gelalich, OF, UCLA - Helium guy this year. Excellent tools with college performance. Should probably end up much higher on this list.
58. Joey Demichelle, 2B/3B, Arizona State - Dude can hit and his selection could bring a lot of balance to the class. Questions on ultimate position.
58. Jose Orlando Berrios, RHP, Puerto Rico HS - A little small, but fastball jumps into the high 90s. Upside play, a long ways off, might be better off as a reliever.
59. Austin Maddox, RHP, Florida - First relief pitching prospect on the board. Profiles as true late inning guy. Obvious limitation as “just” a pen guy, but would be a savvy money play and diversify the class
60. Brady Rogers, RHP, Arizona State - His stuff is unexceptional, but it’s solid across the board, good makeup, good idea of how to pitch. Would be a good get at 66 or 70, should have a solid career.
61. Barrett Barnes, OF, Texas Tech - Ks a lot, but has athleticism and solid secondary skills at the plate. Another guy I could see moving up, as he has upside yet is a little safer as a college player.
62. Dane Phillips, C, Oklahoma State - Serious bat, has a chance to catch. Otherwise, might struggle for position.
63. Stephen Johnson, RHP, St. Edward’s University - Pure upside play for raw power arm. Hasn’t faced quality competition. .
64. Cole Irvin, LHP, California HS - Already has three respectable offerings and size, including an excellent changeup. Needs to get stronger. A classic projection pick who nonetheless is a little safer than many of that type.
65. Brett Mooneyham, LHP, Stanford - Polarizing prospect with excellent stuff and spotty command. Some think he’s a pen arm, others think he could be a good starter. He’s been a major draft prospect since HS and might suffer from overexposure.
66. Carson Fulmer, RHP, Florida HS - In a weaker HS pitching crop he might get more attention. A little short but has a shot at having three above-average to plus pitches.
67. Paxton de la Garza, SS, Texas HS - Is coming up a lot in my research. Should stick at shortstop, strong makeup, decent bat who doesn’t stand out scouting-wise. Some similarities to TBR 1st round Jake Hager a year ago. Possible target at 55, 66, or 70.
68. Wyatt Mathison, C, Texas HS - If we take a prep catcher, this one please. Athletic and probably the best pure hitter among his peers. Still new to catching but he’d be the one I’d strike my typical aversion to prep Cs for.
69. Patrick Light, RHP, Monmouth - Drafting him on size and fastball, both of which are premium. Might take the long way through the pros, might be best fit as a reliever in the end.
70. Chris Taylor, SS, Virginia - Too low for him? Does some of everything, but a lot of talk has him profiling at other positions. Very intriguing bat, has shown good pop.
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by mrkupe on May 10, 2025 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Had to give a "rec" for each post...
..to be able to write a brief synopsis on seventy prospects is pretty damn impressive.
by mlbprospectpulse on May 10, 2025 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
thanks!
I still have another 32 to go just to get my board to 102 prospects (the final list will ideally be in the area of 125 or so), and then there will be a lot of shifting as I continue my research. The list is very fluid at this point, but it’ll pay off in the end.
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by mrkupe on May 10, 2025 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Great work, Kupe. Although you are definitely not a consensus-follower lol.
by cookiedabookie on May 10, 2025 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
Although the consensus rarely tells the story in the best of times. This year, there is a LOT of room to work with.
Some guys are a bit lower than usual just because I have no intention of drafting them. Like, Zunino . . .doesn’t make any sense. We have Hedges in the low minors and Yasmani Grandal in the upper minors, that’s about as solid a pipeline as you’ll find for catchers.
I’ll probably recompile this list and get us up to 80 or so late tonight. I need to go watch more tape on some of the college bats and on a few of the arms. I want to affirm our commitment to adding some upside while putting us in a good place signability-wise. I also know that the sooner the list gets up, the sooner we can start really tuning it. I’m expecting the mock draft to be very easy, having identified multiple guys that we’d love to have at each spot and not worrying about who will jump ahead of whom.
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by mrkupe on May 10, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't dismiss
a player like zunino just because we don’t have a present need for him. You said yourself that you did not want to draft based on need. You can never have too much catching and a ml bat can always move to a corner. Value should be considered with need being a tiebreaker.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 6:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh, I know
It’s just hard to see how he fits in, and I’m not enamored with him anyways. Don’t get me wrong, he definitely projects as a major league starter . . .but he looks better than he is because of the terrible college position player class.
I’ve seen a lot of Jason Varitek comps on him and I can buy that.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
The lack of college hitting and even to some extent pitching is going to make some guys look better. Varitek in his prime had a ton of value, though. I would not be upset if the Padres drafted Zunino, even though I have preference for a couple other guys.
If Giolito injury is believed to be not a serious issue… you basically have 2 elite prospects in Buxton and Giolito and then 3-15 or so are all extremely close and fluid. This draft has some good upside value though in the comp round, this bodes well for the Padres.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 7:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First pick
Take the best available of these 7 in order:
Buxton
Giolito
Correa
Gausman
Fried
Appel
Hawkins
All represent significant upside with the exception of Appel. Appel would be too high of a floor and value to pass if he was the only player available from this list. What I like most about him is the ability to be a workhorse and potential # 2 starter. The Padres simply do not possess a guy that can get into the 8th inning with any type of consistancy. Appel can be argued from both value and need.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 6:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
thanks
I’m going to be posting an update in a few minutes.
If I thought Appel was a No. 2 starter, then yeah, he’d be a good find . . .but I’m not convinced he’s really that type of pitcher.
Where do you come in on Almora v. Hawkins?
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
High
On both but I have a very good feeling about Hawkins. I think he will move up prospect boards in much the same way that Trout did.
Of the players likely to be available to the Padres at 7…. it is a tough debate between Correa, Hawkins, and Fried.
Fried is the safest of those three.
As for Stroman, I am concerned about taking a guy that high that doesnt have excellent secondary pitches coming out of college.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fried is not only safe, but has a lot of upside
I’m feeling increasingly confident about him, but I will say that there is a fair chance that goes off the board before us. I’m not worried - there are obvious lots of talented players to choose from - but it’s something to remember. In the Mock Draft Correa will not be available to us - I know John loves PR players and I would be surprised if he gets past MN.
Stroman has an excellent slider, actually. He also has a change and a cutter that to the best of my knowledge are both solid. He’s a very good athlete. Zimmer’s secondaries don’t seem to be as advanced as Stroman’s, Gausman has some issues with the consistency of his, and Appel . . .well, Appel is Appel.
One word of caution about the early picks . . .signability IS a factor, and may create some hard and/or surprising choices. I’m trying to ID guys that I really like that I could feasibly argue would sign underslot, or at least at slot.
The picks are protected, but if they don’t sign, the money assigned to that slot disappears from this year’s draft budget - so no going all out high upside and arguing “if we get 4 out of 5 that’s fine”.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Fried
Has definately been a favorite of mine and would love to see the Padres draft him.
I have to disagree with you on limiting the number of upside guys. This is a weak draft for college but next year is looking a lot better. I hope the Padres take this into consideration and don’t make signability a major factor…. a tiebreaking factor perhaps. With 2 years of protection they can take some chances and if they sign 4 or 5 out of 6 I would be ok with this if they all had impact upside. There would be an added benefit of having extra picks in a better draft class next year. The Padres dont need more sawyer carrols and james darnells…. they need guys like hedges and ross.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 7:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
my point is
Signability HAS to be a factor. Again, if you take a guy and he doesn’t sign, that money gets subtracted from your alloted amount. It is much better to take a signability guy if it means you’re in the clear on the budget. If you take 5 high upside guys through the first 70 picks and can’t sign one of them, you haven’t improved your ability to stay on budget at all and have reduced the amount of talent you’re bringing in.
This doesn’t mean that we have to compromise on talent . . .it does mean that we need to be a little more clever than previously to do the things we want to do. It might involve reaching a little to bring in a Stephen Johnson, a Jeff Gibbs, or a Paxton de la Garza at 44 to open up our draft options.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The one
area where I would consider drafting a signabiliy guy to save money is in projectable relief pitchers. Target one or two guys that project to be very good relief pitchers and draft them higher than projection. The added depth allows the padres to make more trades that have resulted in guys like wieland, erlin, and maybin. I just dont want to see more 5th OF’s and back of the rotation starters.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 7:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Austin Maddox
at 44 could be just what I am talking about.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sure
Maddox, Jake Barrett, Nolan Sanborn all good choices @ 44 or 55.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
With the new CBA
The Padres first several selections will be protected for 2 years. This fact along with the lack of elite upside players should allow the Padres to focus on upside players.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 7:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
re-compiled list in one post - the "rough cut"
I haven’t ordered everybody at the end of the list yet, but they’re guys I know I want to have on here. I’ve adjusted a few guys, but there are still a few players left to consider. Prep RHPs Taylore Cherry (6’9" prep, filled out, moderate ceiling with polish) and Ty Buttrey (6’6") could be had if drafted in the first couple of rounds, but I’m not sure where they fit in yet.
I’m going to try to emphasize a mix of college and prep players, good upside guys while giving us some safe contributors as well. Based on the list below, I’d like to start hearing some feedback about specific players you guys would like at each slot, as well as any thoughts you have on strategy. I am obviously fine with jumping the consensus curve, and we need to think with innovation. I believe one of the major reasons why this draft is believed to be “weak” is because people are too fixated on guys who have been sitting near the top of the list.
1. Marcus Stroman, RHP, Duke
2. Kevin Gausman, RHP, LSU
3. Byron Buxton, OF, Georgia HS – I think concerns about his hitting ability are overblown
4. Max Fried, LHP, California HS – surprised? I’m struggling to find reasons not to like him, even if there are reasons not to love him
5. Carlos Correa, SS/3B, Puerto Rico HS – hitting ability a little overhyped, and big 17 year old isn’t as smooth as Manny Machado was last year
6. Albert Almora, OF, Florida HS – I think his game is better suited for an NL West team than Hawkins, and while his floor is very high, there is a chance that his tools are underappreciated. big ? that could slide him down: power?
7.Lucas Giolito, RHP, California HS – If he’s healthy, he’ll never get here. If he’s not healthy, we don’t want him anyways. He’s got a great arm but I’m skeptical everything will line up. But hey, you never know, and this is a safe place to keep him in mind.
8.Courtney Hawkins, OF, Texas HS – A bit of a boom or bust. Could be an elite offensive player with plus defense. Could end up doing nothing. Big upside play, but I don’t think a couple of weeks of an improved approach should fool us.
9. Gavin Cecchini, SS, Louisiana HS – No standout tools, and I feel like some may be projecting things for him that just aren’t there. I do like him a lot, but if he’s a 2B with an okay bat in the end then we can do better.
10. Mike Zimmer, RHP, San Francisco – Pure power with a good idea of what to do with his first two pitches. Not sure he has a very workable changeup in him.
11. Marc Appel, RHP, Stanford – There is a chance that he blows up in the pros, and a much greater chance that he is just decent and pitches less than the sum of his parts. Lack of consistency is not a huge problem in my mind, that goes for many college pitchers, most of them less talented than Appel.
12. Tanner Rahier, SS, HS – Surprised again? I can’t find things to complain about here. I don’t think he’s that far behind Cecchini, and if you project Cecchini to definitely move off SS then Rahier’s bat makes him the superior prospect. My preferred target du jour at 33.
13. Richie Shaffer, 3B, Clemson – No, I don’t know where he’s going to play in the end. But he has impact power and bat speed, and that makes him good enough to go here. If I knew he could play 3B or even a passable OF, he’d be in the No. 7 mix, but I don’t believe that one will be proven any time soon, if at all.
14. Lewis Brinson, OF, North Carolina HS – Holy crap, look at this kid. Awesome power projection, very athletic, great speed. Very high upside – similar players have gone higher than this in better drafts.
15. Mike Zunino, C, Florida – Yeah, I know. He can catch and he can hit for some power. He has a lot of swing and miss and that’s not likely to get a whole lot better with playing a pro season.
16. Ty Hensley, RHP, Oklahoma HS – I’ve come down off my cloud a bit and I recognize he is a work in progress with some mechanical roughness. Still got the size, the velocity, and the good pitch mix.
17. Duane Underwood, RHP, Georgia HS – A little raw, but the "up and down" talk about him reminds me a lot of Taijuan Walker a couple of years ago, and we’ve seen how that one looks. First round pure talent with wide range of outcomes, good and bad.
18. Nick Travieso, RHP, Florida HS – Some have suggested his delivery has effort. I would say the kid’s been up to 97 this year, there damn well better be effort. Ideal pitcher’s frame. Got an Alex Fernandez comp from the ever-trusty xmlbscout.
19. DJ Davis, OF, HS – Toolshed. Biggest question, can he really hit? Elite speedster. That’s a whole lotta upside.
20. Deven Marrerro, SS, Arizona State – I still think he can hit. I’m more concerned about his lack of patience. I think he motors through A ball and has people raving about him, then he drops back to the earth quickly in AA. He doesn’t lack for talent, it’s his approach that’s killing him. I don’t see how it gets better and it limits his ceiling.
21. Lance McCullers, RHP, Florida HS – Forgot him last go around . . .stock seems to be markedly up. Stuff has always been there . . .is he somebody we can seriously consider at 7?
22. Matt Smoral, LHP, Ohio HS – As you may have noticed, I’ve been hesitating on integrating injured players into the list, wanting to see how the rest of the list shapes out. Big body, already has good stuff. Some concern about lingering impact of foot fracture in a body that big. That said, he has very substantial upside. North Carolina commit, not sure how his signability looks.
23. Tyler Naquin, OF, Texas A&M – Too bold? Maybe, we’ll see what you guys think. Terrific pure hitter, should play good D, one of the few truly safe bats in the class. Not high upside, but should be at least a decent starter.
24. Cory Seager, SS, North Carolina HS – Fast riser and for good reason. Kid can hit. Probably not playing SS, more of a 3B, but has strong feel for hitting and should be a very well-rounded player in the end.
25. Travis Jankowski, OF, Stony Brook – A little bit of everything with him, I find him intriguing and wonder if he might be undervalued a bit due to his competition. Interesting raw power. Possible comp: poor man’s Curtis Granderson?
26. Rio Ruiz, 3B, California HS – Would have to get him at 33 to be sure we landed him, but he’s a first round talent with fluky injuries. Again, in such a year, I’m not worried. Has the extra benefit of being a Cali kid, nice for perception of signability.
27. Chris Stratton, RHP, Mississippi State – Safe pick but he’s got what you want out of a RHP. Solid FB, good breaking ball, a couple more solid offerings. Has really come into his own this year – does that mean he’s a one year wonder, or is he undervalued? Maybe both?.
28. Alex Wood, LHP, Georgia – 2010 Tommy John survivor who still battles inconsistency, that’s the bad part. The good part is that he can pitch in the mid-90s and has multiple good offerings. In most drafts he’d be a first round arm with questions that push him down. But not here!
29. Nolan Fontana, SS, Florida – He has some serious skills, although I don’t get the impression he’s exceptional anywhere. Am I overvaluing him here because of positional scarcity?
30. Michael Wacha, RHP, Texas A&M – I bet you were wondering where he was. Big body, good FB, favored secondary is his change, and questions with breaking stuff. That sounds like an innings-eater without much upside to me. He knows how to pitch, though.
31 Cody Poteet, RHP, California HS – Kind of reminds me a bit of Texas RHP prospect Cody Buckel. Has three quality pitches, still considerable projection here, strong athlete. Ceiling may be called into question.
1. 32. Mitchell Traver, RHP, HS – BIG dude with projection. Already can sit 92-93 with makings of a good breaking ball and decent change.
33. Steve Piscotty, 3B, Stanford – I don’t trust his power. Pure hitter but overvalued due to scarcity of college bats this year.
34. Walker Weickel, RHP, Florida HS – Off year, but it’s not like the stuff has sucked, and he’s a growing kid. May represent a steal @ 33 if he is there. Still, we’d have to ask if we’re buying on the way up or the way down.
35. David Dahl, OF, Alabama HS – Should hit a ton of line drives, not sure about HRs. Tools are generally good, not great.
36. Dylan Baker, RHP, Western Nevada – I could see a case for him being 15 spots higher, but two problems. One, he’s only really emerged this year – will the stuff be there next year? Two, does he have a decent changeup? I could see him ending up slotting as a dynamite reliever.
37. Chris Beck, RHP, Georgia Southern – A little underappreciated these days. Might not have a high ceiling, but should be a future contributor.
38. James Ramsey, OF, Florida State – I think he might be a little overvalued this year, again due to a lack of college bats. Not a great defensive fit for us.
39. Andrew Heaney, LHP, Oklahoma State – I think his game is more deception than stuff, but he does have a good idea of how to pitch and solid offerings. Write him in as a No. 4 or maybe No. 5 starter for a long while in the majors. The type of guy who slots in around this point, no matter how good the draft is.
40. Lucas Sims, RHP, Georgia HS – Solid two pitch mix and athletic, but would need projection to get beyond a No. 3 or (more likely) No. 4 starter future.
41. Carson Kelly, 3B, Oregon HS – A little raw, but two way player has some thunder in his bat. Could see him being a dark horse IRL for the Rays in round 1.
42. Stephen Bruno, SS, Virginia – Tools and production, health has been a little balky and has dropped his stock. A deceptively high ceiling player makes him a sneaky candidate for 44 if he’s on the board – but we’ll have to see if others agree.
43. Barrett Barnes, OF, Texas Tech – Ks a lot, but has athleticism and solid secondary skills at the plate. Another guy I could see moving up, as he has upside yet is a little safer as a college player.
44. Pierce Johnson, RHP, Missouri State – I might end up sticking him higher next go-around depending on how I feel about his health. Forearm strains often hint at future TJ, but an argument can be made that he’s the best of the second tier of college arms and a first round talent. Might be hard to pass on that.
45. Addison Russell, SS, HS – Nice raw power and some defensive tools. I’d worry that if he fights to keep his weight down, though, that it might hurt his power projection. Some people do really love him.
46. Nick Williams, OF, Texas HS – I put him here, but really this kid will never get to us. He’s a lotto ticket and I think somebody will bite on him in the early 20s when they want upside and are unenthused by their options.
47. Zach Elfin, RHP, Florida HS – Already throws hard and stuff could get even better. Concerned about triceps tendonitis, hard to be too high on a kid who’s already having that type of issue.
48. Victor Roache, OF, Georgia Southern – Some people absolutely love him. I think he’s nice, but he had questions to answer before this year and the injury leaves them unanswered. I don’t care to be too aggressive on him.
49. Hunter Virant, LHP, Georgia HS – Young and almost entirely projection. I prefer to see a little more now out of my high round picks unless the upside is extremely high, and I don’t think that’s Virant.
50. Jeff Gelalich, OF, UCLA – Helium guy this year. Excellent tools with college performance. Not sure there will be much pop in the end.
51. Brian Johnson, LHP, Florida – Raw despite pitching in the SEC, talented, good way to straddle the line between safe and bold. Will probably take some development time.
52. Tom Murphy, C, Buffalo – Legitimate bat and field skills. May not hit for average.
53. Sam Selman, LHP, Vanderbilt – Doesn’t have the performance yet, but power and projection combo from the left side.
54. C.J. Hinojosa, 2B/SS, Texas HS – I’m unsure what to think with him. He is not going to be an easy sign and may well think that he’s better off going to UT. I like his bat a lot and could see putting him higher but could bust the class.
55. Trey Williams, 3B, California HS – I’m getting the feeling that he could find his way to college, where he’d likely not lose stock and have a chance to really bump it. Has been a little off this year, but pure talent to be a quality bat is there.
56. Fernelys Sanchez, OF, New York HS – Very high upside, only committed to a community college. Season ended early due to injury. Aggressive target @ 44 or 55?
57. Jeff Gibbs, RHP, Maine – Raw Canadian with FB that reaches into the upper 90s; good upside/signability combo
58. Pete O’Brien, C, Miami – Feels low for him. I like him a lot and he’d be an easy sign, but beware of taking too much from the performance of college seniors. In real life, I think we’d have to pull the string on him at 33.
59. Joey Demichelle, 2B/3B, Arizona State – Dude can hit and his selection could bring a lot of balance to the class. Questions on ultimate position.
60. Brett Mooneyham, LHP, Stanford – Polarizing prospect with excellent stuff and spotty command. Some think he’s a pen arm, others think he could be a good starter. He’s been a major draft prospect since HS and might suffer from overexposure.
61. Edwin Diaz, RHP, Puerto Rico HS – Has hit 97 mph recently and has more of a prototype build than the other PR pitcher Berrios. As a PR arm, his development track will probably be a little slower than a lot of guys in this area.
62. Clate Schmidt, RHP, Georgia HS – I liked the Jake Odorizzi comparison that Matt Garrioch made on him, but a big part of Odo’s game is pitchability. Schmidt has some mechanical quirks. Stuff is decent and has room to improve.
63. Paxton de la Garza, SS, Texas HS – Is coming up a lot in my research. Should stick at shortstop, strong makeup, decent bat who doesn’t stand out scouting-wise. Some similarities to TBR 1st round Jake Hager a year ago. Possible target at 55, 66, or 70. Could also be an underslot target @ 44 to ensure we get the class signed.
64. J.O. Berrios, RHP, Puerto Rico HS – A little small, but fastball jumps into the high 90s. Upside play, a long ways off, might be better off as a reliever. Potential three pitch mix. Helium guy who others may value more highly.
65. Austin Maddox, RHP, Florida – First relief pitching prospect on the board. Profiles as true late inning guy. Obvious limitation as "just" a pen guy, but would be a savvy money play and diversify the class
66. Brady Rogers, RHP, Arizona State – His stuff is unexceptional, but it’s solid across the board, good makeup, good idea of how to pitch. Would be a good get at 66 or 70, should have a solid career.
67. Braden Kline, RHP, Virginia – Strong two pitch mix, ideal build, could fit in as SP or RP
68. Stephen Johnson, RHP, St. Edward’s University – Pure upside play for raw power arm. Hasn’t faced quality competition. .
69. Cole Irvin, LHP, California HS – Already has three respectable offerings and size, including an excellent changeup. Needs to get stronger. A classic projection pick who nonetheless is a little safer than many of that type.
70. Carson Fulmer, RHP, Florida HS – In a weaker HS pitching crop he might get more attention. A little short but has a shot at having three above-average to plus pitches.
71. Wyatt Mathison, C, Texas HS – If we take a prep catcher, this one please. Athletic and probably the best pure hitter among his peers. Still new to catching but he’d be the one I’d strike my typical aversion to prep Cs for.
72. Patrick Light, RHP, Monmouth – Drafting him on size and fastball, both of which are premium. Might take the long way through the pros, might be best fit as a reliever in the end.
73. Chris Taylor, SS, Virginia – Too low for him? Does some of everything, but a lot of talk has him profiling at other positions. Very intriguing bat, has shown good pop.
74. Stryker Trahan, C/OF, HS – If anything, he’s going to end up lower on here. He’s a project defensively and catching will put a damper on his speed. I am not a big fan of prep catchers and I think he is particularly likely to bust. But upside? Yeah, there’s upside. Signability may be an issue.
75. Dane Phillips, C, Oklahoma State – Serious bat, has a chance to catch. Otherwise, might struggle for position.
76. Rock Rucker, OF/LHP, Georgia HS – Would rate much higher if position were confirmed; prefer as athletic, 6’5" LHP w/projection, may go as 5-tool OF
77. D.J. Hicks, 1B, College
78. Brandon Thomas, OF, Georgia Tech
79. Jake Barrett, RHP, Arizona State
80. Adam Brett Walker, 1B, COL
81. Ross Stripling, RHP, Texas A&M
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
Pick 33
Wont be available but would snatch if they fell:
Marrero
Cecchini
Mccullers
Wacha
Targets that could be available:
Baker
Russell
Rahier
Valentin
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 8:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, none of that first set will be available
I think Wacha will be the last to go, and I expect him to be gone no later than 5-7 picks before 33.
Wouldn’t take Russell at 33, I have questions about both his offensive and defensive projetion. I like Valentin-Diaz but am concerned about signability - he has an LSU commitment that may make him a tough get. I like Baker and Rahier, I’m not really planning on either being there though. Unless somebody drops, I am leaning towards college bat or prep pitcher @ 33 . . .although that may be influenced by our decision @ 7.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
44
Guys I would love to see available at 44:
Smoral
Naquin
Seager
Stratton
Fontana
Poteet
Weikel
Sims
Nick williams
Trahan
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 8:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
tough call
I don’t like Trahan at all, but there are some who do and they know more than me, lol. Position is up in the air, hitting skill in question. I think Williams goes first round here. Fontana will never make it to 44, hell if he makes it to 33 we might take him. Stratton would be a big value pick @ 44. Naquin is one of the better college bats around and I think people will realize that as we approach the draft, if he’s on the board it would be surprising but it’d be great news.
Smoral, Seager, Weikel . . .well, it is entirely possible that one of those guys drops. All would be great picks there. I like Poteet a lot. I like Sims too even if his ceiling is not particularly high.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
First 3 picks
If Correa, then Baker and Naquin or Nick Williams
If Fried, then Valentin and Naquin or Maddox
If Hawkins, then Stratton and best available SS
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 8:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah
Correa won’t be there. His absolute floor is No. 5. I would be very surprised if he makes it past John and the Twins @ 2, knowing how much he likes Correa. I have no clue what Houston is doing here but it wouldn’t surprise me if Correa goes then.
If we go position player @ 7, it’s Almora, Hawkins, or Cecchini (if we decide if sticks @ SS, then I’m on board). If it’s pitcher, Stroman or Fried.
If we go Fried at 7, there are a few bats from both college and preps that I really like for No. 33. 44 we can over-draft with a high-upside prep or a power college arm if we need to think about signability (from taking 2 preps earlier, specifically).
If position player @ 7, I’d probably look to cash in on the good crop of prep pitching @ 33. I do like Stratton and Chris Beck is pretty good too, though . . .it’s just at 33 we will have lots of great prep pitching options. On the other hand, Stratton would really open up our draft . . .hmm.
Still no interest in Almora? He’s not low upside by any means.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Almora
tough call on him versus Hawkins.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Almora
Is the safer pick and a better fit likely for Petco. I also hear he has great makeup. Would not be disappointed if Almora were the pick.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fried
Fontana and Sims would be a great first 3 picks.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that would be pretty good, yeah
Not sure that Fontana makes it to 33, but he’d be a pretty good get there. He can legitimately play shortstop and he’s a solid college bat in a very weak year for that.
Will Sims make it to 44? Perhaps, although he isn’t really a high-ceiling type and I prefer Poteet to him in his archetype.
I really think there will be a good chance we can land a high-upside prep pitcher @ 33. Smoral would be interesting but is one of those guys that is likely to go mid-first. I am very particular about my prep arms. Duane Underwood might be a slight reach @ 33 but I think there a fair chance he could look like a steal in time.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Love
The late first to early second prep arms.
Would take Baker, Virant, Sims, Poteet, or Underwood at 33. Really like Virants Upside.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
virant
Well-rounded package and very young, but doesn’t really throw that hard at the moment, more an 87-90 mph guy I think. Plus I think there are some people who really like him and have him as a mid-first guy, so I’m not sure we’ll even get to make a decision on him.
I’m taking a very long look at RHP Mitchell Traver, who is absolutely massive with good present velocity and perhaps some more in the tank.
All things considered I suspect 33 will be an arm, but there are a few bats I’m mulling over. I really like the Stony Brook kid Jankowski (am I spelling that right? eh) and Naquin. My prep choices rely on some guys dropping . . .Rahier I obviously really like (even if I’m planning on him being gone 3-5 picks before us), maybe Seager, Carson Kelly has a lot of thunder in his bat, the Ruiz kid who missed most of this year (he had a first round grade when healthy).
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Virant
Reminds me of a left handed Casey Kelly. Great athlete and solid hitter. His frame has room for growth and his low 90’s fastball could pick up a tick or two as he gets stronger. Lefties typically dont need as much velocity and he has supposedly 4 good pitches and solid command already.
by PadresFuture on May 11, 2025 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, I can see that comparison
On the other hand, lefties also need to be stronger with their command/control. He is interesting but I would be surprised if he is on the board at 33.
I’m not really one to get fixated on certain players, regardless of the situation . . .there will be many players with successful careers available, wherever we are picking.
With picks 66 and 70, do you feel that we should be looking with a mind towards signability or do you think we can continue to look at the preps and hope that 2nd round money will do the trick? High upside college arms?
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I should emphasize, though
A lot of my draft-day strategy is going to be “by the board” - so if we end up with a bunch of prep pitching, so be it if it’s the best talent. I might make some slight adjustments along the way if it looks like the draft is trending in an unanticipated direction, but I don’t want to deviate from the planning.
My guess is that the first half of the first round will largely go according to consensus. Second half will involve the best college bats going off the board along with the most notable high risk/high reward players. Supplemental round sees a lot of prep pitching go off the board, along with the remainder of the best college bats and some high risk prep position players. Second round, remainder of strong prep pitching and some college bats. Third round dominated by college pitching, maybe a few signability risks.
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by mrkupe on May 11, 2025 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
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