Community Prospect #65
With 24.6% of the vote, Jarrod Parker is elected Community Prospect #64.
1. Jason Heyward - 51%
2. Stephen Strasburg - 76%
3. Buster Posey - 20% (43% runoff)
4. Michael Stanton - 20% (54% runoff)
5. Jesus Montero - 20% (45% runoff)
6. Brian Matusz - 21%
7. Pedro Alvarez - 23%
8. Desmond Jennings - 29%
9. Carlos Santana -37% (50% runoff)
10. Neftali Feliz -37% (50% runoff)
11. Justin Smoak - 46%
12. Domonic Brown - 23% (59% runoff)
13. Madison Bumgarner - 30%
14. Martin Perez - 28%
15. Dustin Ackley - 31%
16. Chris Carter - 33.6%
17. Jeremy Hellickson - 29.4%
18. Michael Taylor - 36.9%
19. Alcides Escobar - 37.0%
20. Christian Friedrich - 29.0%(53.2% runoff)
21. Logan Morrison - 45.6%
22. Ryan Westmoreland - 24.7%
23. Aroldis Chapman - 32.0%
24. Wade Davis - 40.8%
25. Fernando Martinez - 30.5%
26. Aaron Hicks - 33.3%
27. Kyle Drabek - 34.0%
28. Lonnie Chisenhall - 24.5%
29. Jenrry Mejia - 18.8%(51.6% runoff)
30. Yonder Alonso - 25.5%
31. Matt Moore - 19.0%(70.7% runoff)
32. Brett Wallace - 24.3%
33. Dan Hudson - 20.2%
34. Freddie Freeman - 17.4%
35. Jhoulys Chacin - 21.2%
36. Casey Kelly - 27.8%
37. Casey Crosby - 29.8%
38. Starlin Castro - 27.5%
39. Brett Lawrie - 18.4% (42.9% runoff)
40. Derek Norris - 17.3% (42.9% runoff)
41. Tyler Flowers - 20.2%
42. Tyler Matzek -22.7%
43. Jacob Turner - 23.0%
44. Michael Montgomery - 30.8%
45. Dee Gordon - 22%
46. Julio Teheran - 19.4%
47. Grant Green - 24.4%
48. Hector Rondon - 20.9%
49. Josh Bell - 22.4%
50. Jaff Decker - 22.3%
51. Michael Saunders - 22.6%
52. Chris Withrow - 19.4%
53. Aaron Crow - 21.2%
54. Jason Castro - 18.8%
55. Tanner Scheppers - 23.2% (60.9% runoff)
56. Jordan Lyles - 23.2%(39.1% runoff)
57. Jake Arrieta - 28.0%
58. Todd Frazier - 23.1%
59. Jared Mitchell - 28.8%
60. Arodys Vizcaino - 21.1%
61. Zach Britton - 21.0%
62. Matt Dominguez - 19.7%
63. Simon Castro - 25.0%
Players will get 1 round on the poll as a tester, if they fail to draw 5% they will then be removed and sit out up to 3 rounds.
Players off the poll(will sit out up to 3 rounds): Ethan Martin(#64-1.5%), Jay Jackson(#64-0%), Brett Jackson(#64-3.1%), Ryan Kalish(#64-4.6%), Donovan Tate(#63-3.6%), James Darnell(#63-0%), Randall Delgado(#63-0%), Hank Conger(#63-1.9%), Josh Vitters(#62-3.0%), Wil Myers(#62-4.5%), Miguel Sano(#62-4.5%), Ike Davis(#62-4.5%), Zach Wheeler(#62-3.0%), Mike Trout(#61-3.7%), Shelby Miller(#61-1.2%)
Tester pool: Josh Reddick, Eric Hosmer, Wilmer Font, Kyle Gibson, Jemile Weeks, Adrian Cardenas
The candidates with previous round vote %:
Mike Leake 9.2%
Wilson Ramos
Jiovanni Mier 13.8%
Tim Beckham 12.3%
Alex Colome 13.8%
Zach Stewart 6.2%
Michael Main
Thomas Neal 7.7%
Tim Melville
Mike Moustakas
Reid Brignac
Over 130 AB/50 IP cutoff for eligibility
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Vote with a +1 here for Mike Leake
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 25, 2026 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Chicks dig the long ball, although fat chicks will settle for warning track power" - Nick Diamond
by hero66 on Feb 25, 2026 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by ravensfan3 on Feb 25, 2026 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Wilson Ramos
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I have him one spot ahead of Colome on my AL list
by BrosbeforeShaincoes on Feb 25, 2026 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Feb 25, 2026 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Jiovanni Mier
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Tim Beckham
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Feb 25, 2026 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I want to see Malcom Floyd in Pewter and Red next season!
by thedudeofdudes on Feb 25, 2026 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
oh
So now it’s my fault you like fucking other peoples’ wives.
by larry on Feb 23, 2026 5:23 PM CST
by e-gus on Feb 26, 2026 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Alex Colome
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by Brickhaus on Feb 25, 2026 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Feb 25, 2026 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Zach Stewart
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Feb 25, 2026 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
long, long overdue
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
by Blicks on Feb 25, 2026 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Michael Main
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Nobody punished like Earl and No one was nastier than Ryan
by Garcia34 on Feb 26, 2026 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Thomas Neal
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Tim Melville
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Mike Moustakas
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Crash Davis
by Terry Ryan Jr on Feb 26, 2026 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 here for Reid Brignac
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
by winchester5 on Feb 25, 2026 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vote with a +1 and name here for anyone not listed above
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 25, 2026 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll stick with voting for someone on the list
but I really feel like the tester/discard pool has some much better options. That said, it should be about making the best CPL possible, and the chances of an unlisted person winning is slim.
I can’t vote for Ramos. The issue seems too glaring to ponder at 65. As noted, I’m not sure he’s top 100 for me, but again, I don’t have a list done. He strikes me as a Bengie Molina/Henry Blanco cross of sorts, and I’m not sure that’s top 100. Perhaps very useful, but not sold on top 100.
I don’t know anything on Leake beyond what was known at the time of the draft, but that seems good enough to ponder in that range. I think BA had him a few spots lower. I have Mier ahead of Beckham, but both are fair considerations in this range. I still prefer Mier because of what I recall from the reports on his glove, and wanting to see Tim Beckham prove it, offensively and defensively, but I could see Beckham ahead.
Alex Colome’s raw potential is awesome. Enough to put over Leake’s polish? I’m not sure as I type this, although I know BA did. I don’t think the difference between Zach Stewart and Kyle Drabek is that big, but that may speak to more on how I feel about Drabek. I do understand the rationale of him off the BA top 100 … if you don’t believe in him as a starter, then it becomes debatable. I can’t say how I feel about that, as I really haven’t pondered it that much. I want to see Michael Main prove it before pondering him this high.
Do I buy that Thomas Neal is an improved player? It’s just hard for me to put him in the 60’s because I think his power is probably significantly less outside Cal, and if so, I just don’t think I could vote him in the 60’s. Melville’s ceiling is decent, but doesn’t seem great, and he’s so far away, so I’m not really pondeirng him here. I want to see Moustakas prove it before voting him in the 60’s, and I think Vitters is better, so I didn’t ponder him. A bit too high for Brignac for me. I don’t understand how he got 54th overall love from BA. I can see him top 100, but 50’s/60’s seem high for me, even if he is relatively safe and has positional value. That said … he is so much safer than Mier/Beckham, so does his floor/safety generate enough value to ponder?
Guess I’m looking at pitching for this round, and namely, Zach Stewart, Mike Leake, Alex Colome, I’m not sure I love voting Stewart here … but there’s a chance with the change, and Leake and Colome have a long road ahead to get to AAA.
by toonsterwu on Feb 25, 2026 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not liking these choices myself
Five polls ago I was saying I liked most of the choices. Seems everyone I liked either got voted on or fell off into the testers. I still like Beckham, Colome, and Moustakas soon. But there are a lot of guys off the poll who I like better than the rest of these, including B. Jackson, Davis, Wheeler, Tate, Meyers, Miller, and Trout.
by acerimusdux on Feb 25, 2026 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for lack of a better choice
I’ll go Neal. hard to ignore his season last year. Off list, I’d take Brett Jackson and Donovan Tate on potential alone over this group.
by PrincetonCubs on Feb 25, 2026 3:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Probably at the point now where the ultimate boom or bust guys should start showing up on potential alone.
by ChalupaCabrera on Feb 25, 2026 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Went with Stewart.
His floor puts him a step ahead of Colome or Neal for me. Both had great years, but are still a ways off. Colome is a potential front-line starter, but Stewart is much closer and his stuff is pretty sick as well. I think out of these choices, most GMs would covet Stewart over the rest, because at the very least he should be a very good relief option.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Feb 25, 2026 4:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
somewhat depends on how your org/system stacks
but for the most part, that was loosely my thinking in giving Stewart the nod here as well.
by toonsterwu on Feb 25, 2026 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm ... could be heading to a runoff
12-10 Stewart over Beckham right now.
On a side note, everyone always has complaints about CPL’s. That’s the beauty and issue with a CPL. Here’s a random question I was wondering - which one player (and only one) is the biggest issue for you, whether it’s too high or too low? Could be someone you think should’ve been on already.
I ask this because … most of us, including myself, have complained about some of the rankings on this list, but skimming over it now (and I missed a few votes here and there), it doesn’t look bad. A lot of small things I disagree with, but … I’m not sure there’s many major ones (I don’t have a specific way to classify major issue, other than to say that the guy just doesn’t look right at that spot).
In comparing the list to BA’s top 100 (If I missed someone doing this, I apologize), guys that had a noticeable difference in ranking (hope someone makes some sort of comparison between the major lists into a post)-
Chris Carter - CPL rank 16, BA rank 28
Michael Taylor, 18/29
Christian Friedrich, 20/33
Wade Davis, 24/34
Fernando Martinez, 25/77
Jenrry Mejia, 29/56
Yonder Alonso, 30/45
Dan Hudson, 33/66
Jhoulys Chacin, 35/71
Casey Kelly, 36/24
Casey Crosby, 37/47
Starlin Castro, 38/16
Brett Lawrie, 39/59
Tyler Flowers, 41/60
Tyler Matzek, 42/23
Jacob Turner, 43/26
Hector Rondon, 48/unlisted
Josh Bell, 49/37
Jaff Decker, 50/82
Michael Saunders, 51/30
Aaron Crow, 53/40
Jason Castro, 54/41
Tanner Scheppers, 55/42
Jordan Lyles, 56/91
Jake Arrieta, 57/99
Todd Frazier, 58/43
Matt Dominguez, 62/unlisted
Jarrod Parker, 64/36
Guys in BA’s top 65 not in CPL yet: Nick Hagadone, Zack Wheeler, Shelby Miller, Donovan Tate, Reid Brignac, Wilson Ramos, Kyle Gibson, Ike Davis, Jason Knapp, Alex White
The CPL looks alright compared to it. Yes, BA’s list is far from perfect, but they do this for their living, while I’m assuming most of us don’t so to have a list that’s somewhat similar to their’s in names and spots is fairly good (or it speaks to the fact that many of you have BA subscriptions). I noted guys with a difference of 10 spots, but really 10 spots isn’t all that much. I found it funny that we got Crow/Castro/Scheppers listed together, in the same order, just 13 spots lower.
Looking at the differences, it’s also easy to see why there are some differences. BA’s more willing to take a gamble on some of the younger guys, perhaps due to their org sources/scouting reports, and I think many of us, including myself, are often tentative at ranking a raw youngster too high.
by toonsterwu on Feb 26, 2026 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BA/CPL
BA naturally informs the CPL quite a bit.
BA goes overboard sometimes. I think CPL listing of Starlin Castro makes more sense (I’d actually have him lower). OK, so he is a tool shed and young. Adjusted line in A+/AA per minor league splits is .286/.326/.374. There is a lot of projection built into a .300 average, 15-18 homer major league norm, not to mention callis’s 20 homer upside. Again, by comparison, tejada’s adjusted line, all in AA, is .282/.347/.374. And yes, scouts are higher on castro, but one is now a projected all-star and the other a utility guy.
Some folks jumped on after AFL, and that was pretty much all batting average. I’d rather have Michael Taylor, for example, than Castro. Position adjustments and scarcity be damned. BA has them essentially reversed compared to the CPL rankings.
by wobatus on Feb 26, 2026 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To continue my point about scoutspeak/Kalish, Castro is exactly the kind of guy scouts are higher on than sabr types.
He’s mostly hit tool, relatively unimpressive secondary skills, varying reports on his glove with some questioning if he sticks at SS.
The WAR crowd sees a fairly limited ceiling for this type of player. He won’t add much as a SS defensively. He’s not a patient hitter. His power is below average (>50 grade) -which is not bad for a SS, of course. Many traditional scouting types will see him and say “I love his swing and feel for hitting.” There’s certainly something to be said for the scouting/love the hit tool approach - often those guys end up adding more secondary skills than we initially thought… I just think its important to keep an eye on both ends… Castro is a bit lower for me.
by alskor on Feb 26, 2026 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Hudson is probably my biggest beef
he is way too high on our list.
as is Flowers.
and I don’t at all like Alvarez above jennings and santana.
it’s really not too bad of a list, though
by daveh33 on Feb 26, 2026 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hudson was the guy that stood out to me as well
and I say this as someone that believes Hudson can succeed in the bigs and someone who likes him a fair amount.
by toonsterwu on Feb 26, 2026 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hudson
is 30 on PP’s list. Now that’s high. CPL a sober, reasonable 33. :)
by wobatus on Feb 26, 2026 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Flowers
Yeah, i campaigned for him. But he is only 19 spots higher than BA’s list (and I knew BA wouldn’t have him all that high). If his D has really improved, I just have a thing for walking/slugging catchers. Won’t matter if he bats .250. Every low A pitcher whose arm is gonna fall off is on BA’s list.
by wobatus on Feb 26, 2026 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Hudson was a bit high for my tastes as well, but mostly because it’s just hard to judge what he did since he spent so little time at each stop. I think it’s entirely possible he proves the ranking to be pretty solid though. Flowers, went about 20 spots too high for me like Hudson, but again it’s possible he shows he belonged there if he sticks behind the plate for more than 5 years.
I have Alvarez at #11 on my own list, but I can buy him at #7. The thing that is a bigger issue to me is Posey at #3 and ranked ahead of Santana. Other than the ability to hit for average I don’t think Posey has the advantage anywhere else, while Santana has more power and better walk rates.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Feb 26, 2026 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the idea is to make a list based on our opinions, not a clone of another list out there.
Now I know those list will have a significant impact on the voting here but I like that this has a different(or rather many different) perspective(s).
oh
So now it’s my fault you like fucking other peoples’ wives.
by larry on Feb 23, 2026 5:23 PM CST
by e-gus on Feb 26, 2026 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't disagree
I’m simply comparing the two lists and asking people what their one biggest objection on the CPL is.
by toonsterwu on Feb 26, 2026 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Issues (and yeah some are definitely minor)
-Posey over Santana
-Logan Morrison at 21 is way too high for my tastes (and this applies to every first baseman on after Smoak)
-Hudson and Flowers, as mentioned above, are very high
-Lyles and Rondon seem much too high
-Casey Kelly, Matzek and Turner all look low
-Josh Bell is ranked as if there were no questions about his defense
-Jaff Decker is ranked as if there were no questions about his body
by jar75 on Feb 27, 2026 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad this post will be off board soon
and creating a thread solely to discuss CPL vs Top list differences isn’t a good idea until we get done with at least 100.
On Josh Bell - I don’t recall what I voted for and am too lazy to search for it, but on the surface, 49 looks alright to me. His bat showed improvement this year in several facets, and his defense stepped forward. An upper level guy who can likely stick at 3rd in his youth (may move down the line, but at least his first few years, I think most agree that he can stick there) who improved with the bat and shows good power seems like a possible top 50. I mean, could I quibble and drop him a few slots? Perhaps … but I don’t think 49 is that bad.
- I don’t know if Josh Bell falls under your minor quibbles, so maybe you aren’t really disagreeing.
by toonsterwu on Mar 1, 2026 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bell
I’m not sold he can stick at 3B for any length of time, and I don’t think jar75 is either. Coming into 2009 Bell was looked at as future 1B/DH and now all of a sudden he’s an above average defender? We say it takes 3 years of UZR to normalize defensive value, so I’m sorry but I can’t buy Bell as a sure fire 3B at the MLB level without seeing another year or two of good defense. Look at his TotalZone numbers, -11/150 in 2007, -29/150 in 2008 and 0/150 in 2009. That’s a huge difference and one I need to see repeated before I can believe it.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Mar 1, 2026 2:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matzek/Turner
Of course our rankings of them will look low compared to BA on Turner and Matzek, they lean so far towards projection and upside. I honestly think where we have Turner and Matzek is about right, it’s a good balance between ceiling and the risk involved with HS arms.
by gatling on Mar 1, 2026 2:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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