July 8 MiLB Thread
by Dewey Finn
on Jul 8, 2025 4:41 PM EDT
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The following arms are throwing tonight...
Hector Rondon, Tom Gorzelanny, Chris Tillman, Andrew Carpenter, Josh Lindblom, Rick Vanden Hurk, Bradley Holt, Junichi Tazawa, Madison Bumgarner, Deolis Guerra, Wes Roemer, Jeremy Hellickson, Alexander Torres, Ben Hornbeck, Cody Scarpetta, Joe Wieland, Hector Correa
In the majors David Hernandez, Luke French, and Trevor Cahill are going. Cahill has a tough test vs Boston.
Feel free to add pitchers that I may have missed.
As always, please post notable performances throughout the minors!
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Barnese last night
Forgot to throw him down there
5 ip 5h 0r 3bb 3so
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by Metty5 on Jul 8, 2025 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
travis banwart to AAA
hey A’s, there’s no upside to keep a college drafted sp from 08 like Capra all yr in the MWL, send him to the cal league
by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 8, 2025 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Julio Teheran
7.1 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K…… GO/FO….13/5
by Jay212033 on Jul 8, 2025 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haven't heard his name much
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by Metty5 on Jul 8, 2025 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
seems he’s been around forever though, doesn’t it?
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by doublestix on Jul 8, 2025 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting pitching matchup in Tennessee
Hellickson vs. Mateo - Mateo isn’t on the same level, but he has quality stuff, but not the consistency. That said, he’s shown some signs the last few times out, stringing together a string of good starts, starting with one against Montgomery on the road.
by toonsterwu on Jul 8, 2025 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AA Bing and Portland too
Holt V Tawiza (sic) love the new mobile posting. I think I missed out on him in my top 50
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by Metty5 on Jul 8, 2025 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Nice rebound for Holt
5 IP, 3 R, 3 H, 1 BB, 10 K. He had struggled in his first 2 outings since coming off the DL.
Tazawa went 5 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 2 K. Ike Davis also hit his 3rd AA HR in the game.
by jibs on Jul 8, 2025 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rondon is off to a blistering start
4 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 8 K so far in his AAA debut
by jibs on Jul 8, 2025 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rondon's final line
6 IP, 0 H, 2 BB, 8 K, was pulled after throwing 95 pitches.
by jibs on Jul 8, 2025 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh true, he’s a lefty. Hence, the Sizemore/Drew comps.
I’m an idiot.
by Frederick0220 on Jul 9, 2025 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tillman
So, can somebody explain to me why he isn’t in the majors yet? Somebody like Rick Porcello gets called up straight from A+ ball. Tillman arguably does better in a full season in AA, and the Orioles bring him up to AAA. Okay. The one issue with his game, everybody agreed, was that his control was only marginal. This year, his K rate goes up while he improves his control until it is good. He has an FIP of 2.25 in AAA. But nobody seems to be talking about when he’ll be called up. Am I missing something?
BTW, so far today, 6 IP, 6 Ks, 0 BBs, 0 ERs
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by OldProspects on Jul 8, 2025 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because the Orioles stink and there's no need to add him to the 40 man roster plus start his service clock
by jibs on Jul 8, 2025 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Service clock
I doubt they even bring him up in September. He doesn’t need to build a relationship with Weiters, and they can keep his IP down too.
Will the O’s rotation have Tillman Matzsu and Arreita next season out of ST? I’d say there is a strong possibily that won’t happen either, for clock reasons. But come may, this could be an exciting team.
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by Metty5 on Jul 8, 2025 9:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
Tillman will be called up soon, per my reply below.
Arrieta will get the call in September when rosters expand, but won’t get more than a start or two to limit his innings.
Matusz will be shut down for the year in mid-August when he reaches ~140 innings. He’ll be given the Wieters treatment next year and spend his first few weeks at AAA.
All three should be in the rotation by next May, barring injury or ineffectiveness.
There’s a chance that the Orioles play it very conservative with Arrieta and Tillman for 40-man roster reasons since neither needs to be added until next year. However, there is plenty of fat on the 40-man that they can cut, so they can add both of those two (and Snyder and Erbe) without risking any talent in the rule 5.
by dkdc on Jul 8, 2025 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put money
on Patton getting the call if they need a pitcher before Sept. too. He may be a call up when the rosters expand but I don’t think we’ll see him before then
by smoooooth on Jul 8, 2025 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tillman will be up soon
The front office is dropping all kinds of hints to the beat writers, leading to articles like this one:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-sp.osnotes04jul04,0,3340318.story
Given the struggles of Hill and Berken and a potentially injured Guthrie and Uehara’s extended injury, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tillman make his debut shortly after the break.
by dkdc on Jul 8, 2025 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holt with 10 strikeouts and 1 walk in 5 innings.
Anthony Rizzo so far tonight: 3-3. 2B, 3B
by Frederick0220 on Jul 8, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Desmond Jennings
3-5, 3B, HR (7), 2 SB (32)
hopefully this signals the end of his month-long slump
by milkmanmax on Jul 8, 2025 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BA
BA is releasing their top 25 tom.
Should be interesting.
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by Metty5 on Jul 9, 2025 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My personal favorite part of it
When BA releases their midseason top 25, it ALWAYS ends up doing hilarious things with regard to groupthink . . .there are always at least 3-5 names on the list that tend to surprise, with an equal number that surprise with their omission.
by mrkupe on Jul 9, 2025 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and without looking, I'll throw out my top shocking predictions.
1. Kyle Drabek rates much more highly than you might initially think he would.
2. The Cubs have two top 25 prospects in Josh Vitters . . .and Starlin Castro.
by mrkupe on Jul 9, 2025 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And were out-done in the NL Central by the Astros
who put 3 people on the list; Jordan Lyles, Jason Castro, and…Drew Sutton
(P.S. Drew Sutton’s real name is Stephen Drew Sutton. No joke.)
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by OldProspects on Jul 9, 2025 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yes, I now know he was traded to the Reds
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by OldProspects on Jul 9, 2025 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rick Vandenhurk
7 inn, 5 hit, 2 ER, 3 K, 0 BB, 2 HR
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kila monster
2-4 with a double and HR in this game. i think the HR was off mr. holland hammer.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jul 9, 2025 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a prospect
but Chris Volstad threw his first shutout [against SF]
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Kalish
3-7 [in a doubleheader]
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael taylor
0-4, K
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
we havent seen that very often from him
by miraclemets on Jul 9, 2025 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Weglarz
0-3, BB
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Cunningham
1-2, 2 BB
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MadBum
4 inn, 5 hit, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 HR
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Deolis Guerra
5 inn, 5 hit, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 4 K
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilmer Flores
0-4
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
James McOwen
2-4, BB, 2 K, 45 game hit streak
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alex Liddi
2-5, 2B, K
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much is Liddi
a product of that park? There are so many guys in that org who are on the leaderboard in the Cal League. park and luck neutralized per minor league splits he is at .289/.342/.527, which i guess isn’t chopped liver for a 20 year old in high A even in Cali.
by wobatus on Jul 9, 2025 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the last line in high A that was similar to liddi's and put up at a similar age, was pablo sandoval
i wrote that line off this time last year, for exactly the concerns you listed. high desert, where liddi is playing half his games, is a lot more of a hitters haven than san jose, where sandoval played last year, and i think that needs to be adjusted for, but i feel comfortable betting on liddi, and putting him in the top 75 pending his adjustment to next season.
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by variablesdont on Jul 9, 2025 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thomad Neal
1-3, HR, 2 K
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rangers
Tim Murphy: 5.0IP 9H 6R 6ER 1BB 5K 1HR
Joe Wieland: 5.0IP 6H 5R 3ER 3BB 0K 0HR
Geuris Grullon: 2.0IP 2H 0R 1BB 4K
Miguel Velazquez: 2-4 HR 3RBI
Vincent DiFazio: 4-5 2B 2R
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 9, 2025 9:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buster Posey
3-5, 2B, HR
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was yesterday (the 7th)
His line was actually 0-3, BB
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by gore51 on Jul 9, 2025 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mat Latos
being limited to keep innings down after injury-shortened ’08
57 pitches: 15 up, 15 down:
5.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 SO, 0 HR
by pffriberg on Jul 10, 2025 2:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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