Apples and Oranges
OK, we did two Retros this week, one for Jack Cust and one for David DeJesus.
If you had to have either Jack Cust or David DeJesus as your regular left fielder, who would you pick? And why?
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Offensively
Cust is dramatically better than DeJesus (his OBP and slugging percentages are 30 and 50 points higher respectively over their careers). DeJesus steals a few bases, but his caught stealing makes his running a negative. Defensively, DeJesus is stronger, but I’m not exactly sure how much stronger
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by OldProspects on May 1, 2025 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dejesus
Is probably more than 20 runs better in the field.
by dkdc on May 1, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I gotta take the guy who can help on both sides of the ball.
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by halfchest on May 1, 2025 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least
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by doublestix on May 1, 2025 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus is probably closer to 30 runs better than 20.
The last 2 years he’s been +20 in LF and Cust has averaged -15 in LF. DeJesus may not be a true +20 in LF, but if he’s still 3 wins better in the field than Cust.
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by Tyler on May 2, 2025 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
It was close, but I’ll take the defense and OBP/speed combination in the leadoff position over the TTO hulk in LF. Also, I’m pretty concerned about Cust having old player skills, which hurts his value a little in my eyes.
by demondeaconsbaseball on May 1, 2025 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jack Cust
DeJesus gets hurt too often, and I’m a softie for an OPS monster like Cust, bad defense or no.
by nivarsity on May 1, 2025 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cust
LF in MMP is small so defense is less important. With injuries it is a no-brainer Cust for the Astros
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by Shamus on May 1, 2025 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
because it’s real comforting watching El Caballo out there in LF…
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by jonthefon on May 2, 2025 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
though I think both players will wash out somewhat early. Neither of them have much room for error to stay as regulars. Like said, I’ll take the multi-dimensional player.
by Daniel Berlyn on May 1, 2025 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
But I’d be mostly fine with either of them… I think.
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by baetown415 on May 1, 2025 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
For the reason others have mentioned, defense. Considering he can even play passable CF speaks to his significantly better defensive ability. Neither are great players, but I’d rather have DeJesus.
by joltinjoe on May 2, 2025 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't I take Cust and just let him DH?
Pleeease?
by thejd44 on May 2, 2025 5:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take the guy who is going to produce on offense.
Give me Cust every time.
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by timmy3 on May 2, 2025 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I went with DeJesus
It was close and I would probably flip flop based on the way the rest of the team is constituted. If I was starting a team from nothing with LF first and had a choice of Cust or DeJesus, I would take DeJesus because of the defensive value would give me a little more flexibility and he won’t hurt you on offense. But if I were talking about the A’s as they are made up now, I would not trade Cust for DeJesus. Value wise I think they are pretty close but the defensive ability nudges DeJesus just a bit ahead for me.
by DiegoAsFan on May 2, 2025 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cust on the A’s - They lack some serious punch at the plate. W/O Cust, they are a putrid Offensive team
Dejesus for the Royals - They have guys who can/will kinda rake already.
by Colorado Fan on May 2, 2025 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John
I really like this “Apples and Oranges” feature, FWIW.
by nivarsity on May 2, 2025 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a true
apple and orange comp that would make more sense is DeJesus in LF or Cust at DH.
by RollingWave on May 3, 2025 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But then I think it'd be hard to take DeJesus
Because Cust is one of the best DHs in the league and he’s still inexpensive. DeJesus doesn’t hit enough to be one of the better LFs in baseball.
by thejd44 on May 5, 2025 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The correct answer is "take Jack Cust and move him to DH"
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by PaulThomas on May 5, 2025 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
Defense matters folks
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by vivaelpujols on May 6, 2025 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus no question
Just doing a quick look at their stats on fangraphs shows a pretty big diffrence.
DDJ in LF is worth about +10 offensively and +20 Defensively
Cust in LF is worth about +15 Offensively and -20 denfensively.
Playing Cust in the outfield pretty much mitigates any value he has at the plate.
Putting Cust as DH still leaves him about a win and a half behind Dejesus.
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by RoyalPug on May 7, 2025 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea where you got those numbers
Because when you factor in defense over the past two years, they’re pretty close.
Cust wRAA for 07-08: 26.6, 21.4
DeJesus wRAA for 07-08: -5.1, 12.6
Can you explain how you figure Cust is only 5 runs better than DeJesus offensively?
Oh, you also did some funny rounding for the defense, but it likely comes out to less than half a win in DeJesus’ favor, so I’ll ignore it.
by thejd44 on May 8, 2025 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs







