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Chicago Cubs Preliminary Player List

Cubs preliminary player list after the jump. Feel free to make suggestions, but as always if you suggest a player to add, you have to suggest a player to cut.

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Jeff Antigua       LHP

Chris Archer       RHP

Darwin Barney      SS

Jeff Beliveau      LHP

Justin Bristow     RHP

Kyler Burke        OF

Esmailin Caridad   RHP

Chris Carpenter    RHP

Andrew Cashner     RHP

Wellington Castillo C

Starlin Castro     SS

Robinson Chirinos  C

Steve Clevenger    C

Casey Coleman      RHP

Tyler Colvin       OF

Rafael Dolis       RHP

Ryan Flaherty      INF

John Gaub          LHP

Brandon Guyer      OF

Chris Huseby       RHP

Brett Jackson      OF

Jay Jackson        RHP

Dong-Yub Kim       OF

Austin Kirk        LHP

Junior Lake        SS

Hak-Ju Lee         SS

D.J. LeMahieu      INF

Trey McNutt        RHP  

Kyung-Min Na       OF

Mike Parisi        RHP    rule 5

Blake Parker       RHP

Brooks Raley       LHP

Dae-Eun Rhee       RHP

Chris Rusin        LHP

James Russell      LHP

Ryan Searle        RHP  

Tony Thomas        2B

Jose Valdez        OF

Josh Vitters       3B
Logan Watkins      2B

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Additional Names to Consider

P Daniel McDaniel
P Mitch Atkins
P Justin Berg
P David Cales
P Su-Ming Jung
P Tzu-An Wang
P Yao-Lin Wang
P Larry Suarez
IF Ping-Chieh Chen
OF Sam Fuld

Also, don’t forget about the players acquired from Oakland (P Jeff Gray, OF Matt Spencer, P Ronny Morla)

by Outshined_One on Dec 28, 2025 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As for players to cut

I’d definitely consider removing the following…

C Robinson Chirinos
P James Russell
OF Jose Valdez

I’d probably replace those three with Matt Spencer, Sam Fuld, and David Cales.

by Outshined_One on Dec 28, 2025 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I forget it John counts

service time for rookie qualification, but if he does, Fuld wouldn’t count.

by toonsterwu on Dec 28, 2025 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Russell

If John has info/thoughts on Russell, I’d really love to hear it. I think I’ve expressed it to O_O before, but he might be the most frustrating Cubs prospect to me. A plus change and a good curve, and a fb that is in the low 90’s, and yet, he hasn’t found any rhythm yet.

by toonsterwu on Dec 28, 2025 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The one guy I would definitely take off

is probably Kyung-Min Na. Depending on the information you’ve gathered, I’d put either

Dan McDaniel - He’ll probably get a rotation look again next year, but unless his velo picks back up a bit, he’ll likely head back to the pen where his stuff plays better and his fb velo is a bit better.

Larry Suarez - I have mixed feelings about him, but there’s still enough intrigue with his potential.

Actually, I’d probably put Tzu-An Wang up there, but I don’t know what sort of information you’ve gathered on international kids, but I’m fascinated by Wang’s potential, considering he only picked up baseball a few years ago, and considering he’s taller than most Asian pitchers that come abroad (along with his good athleticism - former bball guy).

That said, at first glance, awesome job John. I really wouldn’t complain if you didn’t make any changes to the 40 you’ve picked. I’ll take a look at my own top 50 list later to see if any names popped up that O_O didn’t cover.

Oh .. .Cales is interesting. A pen arm, probably middle relief, but Cubs are supposedly high on this former White Sox fan.

A lot of tough calls to make, so I really won’t complain any which way, but the initial list looks rather solid.

by toonsterwu on Dec 28, 2025 7:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

real quick

I guess … some of the youngsters, like Sergio Burruel and Wes Darvill are guys that intrigue me, but I don’t know who I’d replace. I guessI don’t really see the point of discussing Tony Thomas anymore, considering his offensive and defensive limitations, so that might be one guy that could be replaced (not saying Burruel and Darvill should be the guys jumping in, just thinking out loud).

Actually, I wouldn’t be all that hurt if you removed Junior Lake. For all the tools he has, I’m very lukewarm on him. Poor reports out there, along with his average performance. In terms of a top 40 Cubs prospect list, I certainly wouldn’t put Junior Lake on it. Every organization has raw, young, upside guys. For example, Marwin Gonzalez has a nice toolset but hasn’t done enough. Junior hasn’t done anything yet to suggest that he’ll move forward, and there’s some other intriguing guys to discuss.

Yeah, at first glance, those are the two guys (Tony Thomas and Junior Lake) that I would take off, but there’s a case to be made for those two as well.

by toonsterwu on Dec 28, 2025 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

spencer

I forgot about the Matt Spencer trade, he needs to be on there.

I’m going to cut Kyung-Min Na. Just not enough information about him at this point, in favor of Spencer.

by John Sickels on Dec 28, 2025 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

list with more adjustments

James Adduci OF
Jeff Antigua LHP C
Chris Archer RHP C
Darwin Barney SS
Jeff Beliveau LHP
Justin Bristow RHP
Kyler Burke OF
David Cales RHP
Esmailin Caridad RHP
Chris Carpenter RHP
Andrew Cashner RHP
Wellington Castillo C
Starlin Castro SS
Steve Clevenger C
Casey Coleman RHP
Tyler Colvin OF
Rafael Dolis RHP
Ryan Flaherty INF
John Gaub LHP
Brandon Guyer OF
Chris Huseby RHP
Brett Jackson OF
Jay Jackson RHP
Austin Kirk LHP
Junior Lake SS
Hak-Ju Lee SS
D.J. LeMahieu INF
Trey McNutt RHP C
Mike Parisi RHP rule 5
Blake Parker RHP
Brooks Raley LHP
Dae-Eun Rhee RHP
Chris Rusin LHP
James Russell LHP
Ryan Searle RHP
Matt Spencer OF
Tony Thomas 2B
Jose Valdez OF
Josh Vitters 3B
Logan Watkins 2B

by John Sickels on Dec 28, 2025 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Some names to ponder ... and 3 changes I'd make

I see you took Chirinos off. I would’ve sort been interested in your take, but it’s understandable.

that I haven’t mentioned and besides the ones that O_O has suggested above.

Jon Nagel - Big, 2-seamer guy has a good frame but needs to polish the rest of his arsenal.

Scott Maine - Received in the Heilman trade, he looks ready to help soon as a pen arm.

Rebel Ridling - Raw power, but inconsistent. Fields the position well. Was obviously old for Low A.

Craig Muschko - Average arsenal, but performed real well once he got in there, and he may get a rotation look in AA with his excellent control.

No real easy decision, but I say

Swap out

Tony Thomas - At this point, he is what he is. He’s inconsistent offensively. Strikes out too much and doesn’t have enough power to compensate. Skillset is more a top of the order bat, but he’s also an average base runner. Average fielder at best. Still has a slim shot at putting it together, but I think he can be taken off.

Junior Lake - I’m actually quite intrigued with him still, but if this is a top 40 prospect list, I’ve got a hard time seeing Lake, who still has to figure out a defensive position (although should be able to stick somewhere in the infield). Sure, he has power potential, and good speed, but the swing needs work and his discipline is almost Viterian. I’ve got a tough time justifying him in the top 40.

Jose Valdez - I’m intrigued with the guy, but there’s physical maturation to go, and his bat is fringy right now.

James Adduci - I really like him … but his ceiling is probably lower than Fuld’s (IMO).

I’d replace those three with

Jon Nagel
Rebel Ridling

and two more. .. not sure, Maine/Muschko/Wang/Suarez/Atkins/McDaniel all could go in there. I think I’d lean Maine and Muschko, but you could go the potential route with Wang/Suarez.

by toonsterwu on Dec 28, 2025 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thomas Diamond could be in the mix

to slot in there somewhere completely forgot about him until someone at BCB brought him up to me. IIRC, there were positive enough fall/winter reports.

by toonsterwu on Dec 28, 2025 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

quick question toonsterwu

would you trade (hypothetically)
(imagine all 3 of these guys were in the cubs system / MLB level)

Starlin Castro
Emilo Bonifacio
Brad Hand

for

Miguel Angel Sano
Danny Valencia
BJ Hermsen
and Glen Perkins

I'd rather have Nick Punto playing 3B and Felipe Lopez playing 2B

than Punto playing 2B and Kouzy, Crede, DeRosa or Glaus playing 3B.

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 28, 2025 11:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

um if this is for fantasy

i really can’t answer much for you. I was a horrible fantasy player for the few years i did it and then quit. If this is some hypothetical on faux real life situation, I’d probably lean no, but it’s much closer, and if you buy the upside of sano and hermsen, i could see a case to make this deal.

by toonsterwu on Dec 29, 2025 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dang

I was really hoping you would put Kyung-Min Na into the book. I know there is not a lot of info on him but the $725,000 that he got should say a lot.

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Dec 29, 2025 1:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Some Na stuff

AzPhil had some comments on him over at TCR.. Basically, 5’6" 130 guy with plus speed and a plus arm.

I don’t claim to know what to read into the signing cost, but because of his size and weight limitations, and considering the little that is really known at this moment, I’m fine with John’s decision. From this year’s crop of Asian signings, I’m far more intrigued with Tzu-An Wang and Dong-Yub Kim.

by toonsterwu on Dec 29, 2025 2:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes they did

They’ve spent a lot of money abroad. I don’t know why. The Cubs have a fairly solid operation in Asia, so they must’ve seen something. He might have a bit more growth in him, and AzPhil might be off a tad on it, but Na, in short, isn’t a big guy.

by toonsterwu on Dec 29, 2025 9:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

josh vitters comment

As elite prospects go, Josh Vitters is a tough to analyze. The strengths are obvious: if you see him play, he has a beautiful swing and tremendous bat speed, one of the quickest bats in the minors. He makes contact easily and seldom strikes out. He has power to all fields. On defense, he has a strong throwing arm and is reasonably mobile for a big guy. Statistically, he hit very well in the Midwest League with a 26 percent OPS, and he also looked good against older competition in the Arizona Fall League, hitting .353/.380/.485. But for all the strengths, there are some negatives in the record that make grading him difficult. His walk rate is incredibly low. It is a mistake to say that his strike zone judgment is bad; he’s not a free swinger in sense of being fooled or overmatched by the pitchers. But if there is a pitch remotely close to the strike zone, he’ll swing at it, even if it is a pitch that he can’t do much with. He manages to make contact on pitches that other guys miss, which keeps the strikeout rate low despite his lack of patience, but at higher levels the lack of discipline is going to become a bigger issue. His poor performance in the Florida State League should serve as a wakeup call for him. On defense, he makes too many errors, and a lot of scouts worry that he will lose the range to play third as he gets older, which would increase the pressure on his bat. Vitters is just 20 years old and there is plenty of time to remedy his problems, but I have to admit I’m not sure exactly what to make of him. I don’t think 16 games in the Arizona Fall League outweighs how badly he hit at Daytona last summer. If I were the Cubs, I would send him back to the Florida State League for at least another 50 games. Grade-wise, he’s either a weak B or a strong B. I’ll go with the Grade B+ for one more season, cutting him some slack due to his youth, but it’s a tough call. He needs to make some adjustments to keep that grade in 2011.

by John Sickels on Dec 29, 2025 6:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Plate Discipline vs Strike Zone Judgment

To me there’s a difference in what people call Plate discipline or plate patience and strike zone judgment. One is simply do you know what pitchers are strikes and which are not. Do you swing at the strikes and take the balls? Can you protect the plate well with two strikes? The other is: Do you swing at balls that you can do something with? Do you often find yourself in hitters counts? Plate patience, the latter of the two, can make a good hitter look worse than he should be, or better than he is. Vitters is one who just will swing at anything remotely close destroying what looked like the best pure hitter of the 2007 draft.

by 2883 on Dec 29, 2025 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Understandable call

For all the emphasis on walks, I would place more emphasis on the number of pitches he sees (which you do as well … it’s just everyone emphasizes walks, but for a guy like Vitters, you don’t want him to neuter him of all his natural instinct). IIRC, it was something like 3.2 or 3.3 P/PA, and I just don’t see a guy making the bigs with numbers like that in the low minors. Now certainly, this isn’t a bad SZ judgment guy, as you note, so he could pick it up perhaps. Maybe failure/struggles will be what pushes him forward.

I would take a moment to note that, while I still think he’s a 40-60 type prospect, I never really got that much on the Vitters train that happened at midseason. The reason being, while his overall line for the MWL was great this year, what he really has was a good month in April, an excellent month in May, and a bad luck month in July. I would’ve liked to see a tad more consistent dominance to really jump aboard the train (although I fully acknowledge that at midseason, I was leaning towards putting him as a borderline top 30 prospect ). Now, I think some people on here got a tad ridiculous (I recall someone suggesting Vitters wasn’t top 100 anymore). He’s a very intriguing prospect, with a high bust factor but a high ceiling, and all this year showed was that he wasn’t an elite guy that was going to move rapidly.

I would probably lean towards a high B than a low B+, as the defensive question marks, along with the discipline issues, are rather glaring. I still like him quite a bit, and am hopeful he can step it up. I’d put him as the 3rd or 4th prospect in the system, but the B+ likely means he’ll finish top 2 for you.

by toonsterwu on Dec 29, 2025 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Su Min Jung

Hasn’t pitched much, but there’s probably enough info out there on him for him to make the list, I would think anyway. He’s gotta have something, considering the Cubs gave him over 500,000 in 2008. I’d drop Parisi or Beliveau to put him on there personally.

by davell on Dec 29, 2025 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I probably wouldn't

Beliveau, while I’ve jokingly called him “Rich Hill-lite”, has a clearer path to finding a road to the majors as a LOOGY. He also has a higher ceiling, imo. Parisi’s a guy that could slot in. On stuff, I wasn’t too impressed with what I read on Jung’s stuff. Didn’t get a chance to see him this year, though, so that’s 2ndhand.

by toonsterwu on Dec 29, 2025 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing you didn't make any additional changes

If you get a chance, I’m curious at why guys like Tony Thomas, Junior Lake, Jose Valdez stayed on the list. Adduci I can sort of understand, but his ceiling is rather low as well. Thomas really doesn’t project as more than organizational filler at this moment, and while Lake and Valdez are both intriguing and have tools, they are the typical C level guys with some upside and a lot to prove.

I don’t really have an issue with it, because at the end, we’re talking C level guys at the moment, but a guy like Jon Nagel seems to be safer than Lake/Valdez while also having some good potential. A guy like Tzu-An Wang seems to have a far greater ceiling. Same goes for Larry Suarez. A guy like Scott Maine would seem more likely to help in the immediate future (and you gave him a C last year and he had a solid year). Rebel Ridling might be Ryan Norwood-ish, and he is older, but he does have some potential (besides an awesome name). There’s just so much risk with Lake, and so much unknown with Valdez. I know there were some very positive reports on Lake, and he could play a premium position. But I don’t see the great separation betwen say, Junior Lake and Nelson Perez at the moment, and Perez offers something the system lacks (power). Not that I think Perez will make it … I wouldn’t put him on a top 40 either.

I’m just a bit curious on thought process for the back end.

by toonsterwu on Dec 29, 2025 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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