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I have to go to Iowa this weekend so I don't know if I'll get the Blue Jays done before Tuesday. In any event, the preliminary list is after the jump. There is no more room, so if you want to suggest someone to add to the list, you have to suggest someone to cut, too.

Star-divide

Kevin Ahrens       3B

Henderson Alvarez  RHP

J.P. Arencibia     C

Robert Bell        RHP

Johermyn Chavez    OF

Tim Collins        LHP

David Cooper       1B

Travis D'arnaud    C

Brian Dopirak      1B

Kyle Drabek        RHP

Brad Emaus         2B

Daniel Farquhar    RHP

Ryan Goins         SS

Yan Gomes          C

K.C. Hobson        1B

Drew Hutchinson    RHP

Justin Jackson     SS

Chad Jenkins       RHP

Andrew Liebel      RHP

Jake Marisnick     OF

Darin Mastroianni  OF

Brad Mills         LHP

Sean Ochincko      C-1B

Tyler Pastornicky  SS

Carlos Perez       C

Luis Perez         LHP

Gustavo Pierre     SS

Carlos Pina        LHP

Wellinton Ramirez  OF

Josh Roenicke      RHP

Ryan Schimpf       2B

Moises Sierra      OF

Egan Smith         LHP

Zach Stewart       RHP

Eric Thames        OF

John Tolisano      2B

Brett Wallace      3B

Dannie Webb        RHP

Zech Zincola       RHP    rule 5

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Out: Sean Ochinko
In: Kenneth (Kenny) Wilson

by jayjay on Dec 18, 2025 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hmm

Wilson…very toolsy, was in the book last year….but he can’t hit right now.

Ochinko hit great in the NYP but is older.

I’ll consider wilson but would prefer to keep Ochinko. Anyone else to drop?>

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well..

I agree Wilson can’t hit, but my thinking was his speed and glove are here to stay and his BB rate wasn’t awful for a 19yo in low-A. That leaves his K-rate (needs a lot of work) and his power, which isn’t a huge concern given his age, level and skill set (more “speedster” than HR hitter). I threw out Ochinko b/c I find when guys are listed early in their careers at C-1b, that means 1b long term and to be a legit 1b prospect you can’t just hit you really have to crush it.

So all that said, I guess one could argue Wilson over Gustavo Pierre as well. Pierre is just so far away, and his K:BB rate was just putrid (45k, 3 bb in 174ab). But that’s really just swapping one high-ceiling little production guy for another.

Don’t think it’s a huge deal if Wilson is left out, just nice to see his ceiling in there.

by jayjay on Dec 18, 2025 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson

I like Wilson too, he was hampered by injuries this past year…he’s a decent bet to improve. I’d rather see some info on him then Zincola or Hutchinson.

Also Trystan Magnuson had a pretty good year, he was drafted as a reliever with the intention of converting him to a starter, he failed miserably as a starter and was converted back to relief last year with pretty good results.. Doesn’t look like you have room for him though.

by JJACK on Dec 18, 2025 4:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

zincola

Want to keep Zinicola because he’s a rule 5. Hutchinson had a big bonus and is projectable….

I can see Magnuson…

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson, Magnuson

I would remove Carlos Pina (unless you have awesome scouting reports - he had a low K/9 in the GCL - just over 6. K/BB is barely over 2/1. He’s another worm-killer. I’d like to see him do anything in a full-season league before getting excited.
Magnuson, I think has a better chance of being MLB-useful than Farquharson, who has poor control. I would also consider Chuck Huggins.
To recap:
In: Kenny Wilson, and Trystan Magnuson or Chuck Huggins
Out: Carlos Pina, Danny Farquharson
Finally, while I wouldn’t include him, would be curious to know what you thought of Marcus Brisker.
All the best

by ofsticksandbats on Dec 18, 2025 4:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I agree….Magnuson makes more sense than Carlos Pina at this point. Wil drop Pina for Magnuson.

Huggins is also a good candidate. . .have to think about dropping someone for him. Mabye Farquar.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Magnuson

Really surprised to see Magnuson in there, his peripherals were very uninspiring. Huggins’ HR rate scares me for a guy who has yet to hit AA and spent the bulk of last season in the FSL.

I would actually prefer Randy Boone in there to Magnuson. I don’t know if he’ll last as a starter, but in his first two seasons as a pro he’s shown he can throw strikes and generate grounders in pretty solid amounts.

by jayjay on Dec 18, 2025 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

boone

I considered him.

Perhaps dropping Ochinko for Boone?

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

decisons

Will drop Hutchinson for Huggins.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 4:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

list

Kevin Ahrens 3B
Henderson Alvarez RHP
J.P. Arencibia C
Robert Bell RHP
Johermyn Chavez OF
Tim Collins LHP
David Cooper 1B
Travis D’arnaud C
Brian Dopirak 1B
Kyle Drabek RHP
Brad Emaus 2B
Daniel Farquhar RHP
Ryan Goins SS
Yan Gomes C
K.C. Hobson 1B
Charles Huggins LHP
Justin Jackson SS
Chad Jenkins RHP
Andrew Liebel RHP
Trystan Magnuson RHP
Jake Marisnick OF
Darin Mastroianni OF
Brad Mills LHP
Sean Ochincko C-1B
Tyler Pastornicky SS
Carlos Perez C
Luis Perez LHP
Gustavo Pierre SS
Wellinton Ramirez OF
Josh Roenicke RHP
Ryan Schimpf 2B
Moises Sierra OF
Egan Smith LHP
Zach Stewart RHP
Eric Thames OF
John Tolisano 2B
Brett Wallace 3B B+
Daniel Webb RHP C
Zech Zincola RHP C

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 4:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

brisker

Brisker is a lot like Wilson….toolsy, fast, can’t hit, young.

I also kind of like Brian Van Kirk but I don’t think there is room.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

marginals

OK, here are guys I am considering dumping and guys I could add

possible additions: Boone, Wilson, Brisker
possible substractions: ochinko, farquar,…..:???? who?

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 5:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

see

See how hard this is?

Farquar has command issues but I have positive reports about his stuff and he could hit the majors in 2010.
Huggins…good command.
Boone…also could hit the majors in 2010 under certain conditions.
Wilson/Brisker….very toolsy, people are interested….

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok...

OK, some decisions.

Reports on Huggins stuff aren’t too good. He’s droppable
Farquar, Mangusen, and Boone are all Grade C marginal staff types, however all could appear in the majors sometme in 2010.
Brisker and Wilson are grade C raw prospect types a long way away but with high ceilings, if they hit..
I could swap out two of the pitchers for Brisker and Wilson, but which ones?

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 5:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Farquhar

I can’t see command like that ever doing more than getting a cup of coffee in the bigs. Does his command/stuff compare to Brandon League’s? If League had less stuff, he’d be gone. If his command was any worse, he’d be gone.
I would prefer seeing Wilson to Brisker (pedigree is higher).
Understandable about Huggins - good numbers, but he is an older guy in lower levels.
I think Magnuson will make the show and could be useful. Can’t say I have much hope for Boone. How different is he to Brandon Magee?

by ofsticksandbats on Dec 18, 2025 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

97mph from 3/4s and 93 from the sidearm

scouts raved about him

by ayjackson on Dec 18, 2025 6:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Farquhar

As a SP maybe, but he could make it even with that command as a RP. Carlos Marmol, Mike Gonzalez and Octavio Dotel are 3 examples of RPs with electric stuff, poor command and major league success. I’m not saying he’s a lock by any means, but he has a shot.

by jayjay on Dec 18, 2025 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boone

Farquhar, Wilson and Brisker are prospects in my mind. Boone has very little chance of even making it to the show and no chance of being an impact player, while the other three at least have a slight chance at that. .Farquhar from what i have heard with his unique arm angle and plus stuff has closer potential…..just my 2 cents.

by JJACK on Dec 18, 2025 5:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hutchinson

I don’t really know much about him other than him getting overslot money to sign. If you think Egan Smith is a more interesting prospect, I guess he can prove himself first.

by ofsticksandbats on Dec 18, 2025 5:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OK

how does this look? This is 39. I can add one more.

Kevin Ahrens 3B
Henderson Alvarez RHP
J.P. Arencibia C
Robert Bell RHP
Markus Brisker OF
Johermyn Chavez OF
Tim Collins LHP
David Cooper 1B
Travis D’arnaud C
Brian Dopirak 1B
Kyle Drabek RHP
Brad Emaus 2B
Daniel Farquhar RHP
Ryan Goins SS
Yan Gomes C
K.C. Hobson 1B
Justin Jackson SS
Chad Jenkins RHP
Andrew Liebel RHP
Trystan Magnuson RHP
Jake Marisnick OF
Darin Mastroianni OF
Brad Mills LHP
Tyler Pastornicky SS
Carlos Perez C
Luis Perez LHP
Gustavo Pierre SS
Wellinton Ramirez OF
Josh Roenicke RHP
Ryan Schimpf 2B
Moises Sierra OF
Egan Smith LHP
Zach Stewart RHP
Eric Thames OF
John Tolisano 2B
Brett Wallace 3B B+
Daniel Webb RHP C
Kenny Wilson OF
Zech Zincola RHP C

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AJ Jiminez

It seems like the organization thinks highly of him. He had to be one of the younger catchers in the AFL this past year, not sure if the jays just had no other catcher to send or not. But he has some intrigue.

by JJACK on Dec 18, 2025 6:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Jays sent Jiminez because Arencibia and Jeroloman were injured. Jiminez has good defensive skills and does well with pitchers for a teenager, so he got the nod. Allegedly.

by ayjackson on Dec 18, 2025 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Robert Ray

had 24 IP in the show last season so he would still be a prospect i think. ok last post, im done

by JJACK on Dec 18, 2025 6:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think he spent too many days "officially" on an MLB roster

He went on the MLB DL last season after the 24 IP, not the minor league DL, so he accumulated service time.

"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West

by Blicks on Dec 21, 2025 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

des moines

des moines. attending a wake of a family friend, and to see my mom briefly for christmas.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Riedier Gonzalez

Now on 40 Man

Touch em all Joe...

by FisherCat on Dec 18, 2025 7:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good catch

Good catch. he needs to go on.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

list

ok, here is the list. no more changes, I have to draw the line somewhere.

Toronto Blue Jays 40 players

Kevin Ahrens 3B
Henderson Alvarez RHP
J.P. Arencibia C
Robert Bell RHP
Markus Brisker OF
Johermyn Chavez OF
Tim Collins LHP
David Cooper 1B
Travis D’arnaud C
Brian Dopirak 1B
Kyle Drabek RHP
Brad Emaus 2B
Daniel Farquhar RHP
Ryan Goins SS
Yan Gomes C
Reidier Gonzalez RHP
K.C. Hobson 1B
Justin Jackson SS
Chad Jenkins RHP
Andrew Liebel RHP
Trystan Magnuson RHP
Jake Marisnick OF
Darin Mastroianni OF
Brad Mills LHP
Tyler Pastornicky SS
Carlos Perez C
Luis Perez LHP
Gustavo Pierre SS
Wellinton Ramirez OF
Josh Roenicke RHP
Ryan Schimpf 2B
Moises Sierra OF
Egan Smith LHP
Zach Stewart RHP
Eric Thames OF
John Tolisano 2B
Brett Wallace 3B B+
Daniel Webb RHP C
Kenny Wilson OF
Zech Zincola RHP C

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2025 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Drop Farquhar?

Are you guys nuts?

Control need a ton of work, but he has one of the best arms in this system. He was drafted just a year ago and has already dominated through several levels. He is nearly unhittable when he is on, Christ the guy gave up only one more hit than he did walks in AA and his WHIP was still 1.34. He also posted a 1.41 GB/FB ratio.

by metafour on Dec 18, 2025 11:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Late to the party but

Even if the list is closed, I want to mention some names for the future…either the book or the discussion thread.

Scott Campbell - great plate control in 2008, hurt in 2009.
Adam Loewen - High profile, mixed results, in AFL
Robert Ray - made it to the show
Jose Vargas and Deviy Estrada - two guys in the DSL who had great ratios
Brian Jeroloman - are we writing him off?
Balbino Fuenmayor - horrible ratios and I wouldn’t list him but maybe worth at least a mention
Kyle Ginley - probably not enough innings in 2009 to give you a basis for comment.

Guys listed I’m not impressed by include:

Wilson and Brisker - like the tools, would love to see SOME hitting (can include Eric Eiland in this group too)
Magnuson - seems to be a very high floor low ceiling guy…not too uncommon.

I’d do Campbell, Loewen and Ray over those three (in fact, if healthy Ray probably is a slightly better version of Magnuson in that he can start and has better ratios and is closer)

by WillRain1 on Dec 19, 2025 1:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jeroloman

Are we giving up on him?…….I sure as heck hope so, he has never shown really any hitting ability other than being able to take a walk. If anyone saw any upside whatsoever he would have probably been selected in the rule V draft. You’d love to see hitting with WIlson and Brisker, well its much more reasonable to expect a hitting improvement with those two than the college pick Jeroloman who has yet to show any.

Campbell is a good bounce back candidate. As a 1B Loewen is not really at all interesting. Ginley could bounce back and regain some prospect status.

Just my 2 cents

by JJACK on Dec 21, 2025 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

change

Ok, i’m making one last change, replacing Brisker (who is just too raw right now) with Robert Ray given that he could contribute signficantly in the majors in ’10.

by John Sickels on Dec 19, 2025 10:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fair

It’s a solid list

by ofsticksandbats on Dec 19, 2025 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

johnny anderson, lhp

could break out next season. good body for a pitcher, more like 220 than the 200 he is listed at on milb.com. can touch 94 from the left side and didn’t do too badly for his first pro season as a starter. good ARL as well, as he just turned 21 and will be in AA new hampshire this coming season.

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Dec 20, 2025 4:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

How do you figure? He didn’t do very well in Lansing - 99 IP, 130 Hits, 76K. His ERA was 4.52, and his RA was 5.78 - why would the Jays have him skip a level?

by ofsticksandbats on Dec 20, 2025 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how he gets to AA, unless he means by year's end

but I seem to recall some member of the Jays’ crew being high on him and mentioning him as one to watch next year.

by ayjackson on Dec 20, 2025 10:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

here's an end of season interview with Dick Scott

ex head of player development

link

by ayjackson on Dec 20, 2025 10:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs


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