Its hard not to love a big fastball

Even if his comps don’t play at the major league level, his 75/80 fastball would still make him a dangerous late inning weapon. His floor is quite high.

For the lack of floor, as Jason stated two posts up… as well as the fact that he’s done it at a higher level. I think the difficulty of jumping to AA is being understated.

Neutral ballpark, I give it to Feliz……although in real life, the fact that the Rangers play in a little league stadium will hurt him. Hope he doesn’t lose his confidence when a routine flyball goes for a homerun.

because I have not seen Bumgarner pitch. Feliz’s fastball is absolutely amazing to watch, not just the velocity, but the life and movement, and how easily he throws it. This guy will definitely do something very well in the major leagues, whether it’s start or close.

Both were incredible in 2008, but Feliz was incredible at a higher level, has a longer pro track record, and is still young enough to have time to continue developing his secondary stuff in addition to that amazing fastball.

For one simple reason….

Control.

He has it. Feliz doesn’t. Both are fantastic prospects…. but when two guys have great stuff, I am going to take the guy with the better control every time.

is astounded by Feliz’ armspeed…well, I’m sold.

Acquire Bumgarner now… then acquire Feliz in 3 years after the Rangers (Nolan Ryan) ruin his development. They might even throw in Smoak at that point. Horrible Franchise.

If this guy keeps going. Them giants are looking pretty nice in the pitching department

His control is better giving him the edge

He is younger ( I think) and he dominated at two levels higher than feliz.

I understand about Bumgarners control, but I would like to see what would have happened to his command at AA if he had been promoted that high. All of the sudden a pitch that catches two inches of the plate isnt so good anymore because of the superior competition.

Because I’m a Giants fan…

Honestly though, it’s so close… I took Feliz over MadBum in my keeper league, but that was mainly because Feliz is closer to the majors.

If I was running a major league team I’d probably take MadBum because: he DOMINATED a league full of kids are around because they can hit a fastball with pretty much just a fastball; and his control is sick.

Mad Bum. Better control. Lefty. My Giants bias.

I did go with Feliz though (mainly due to me liking the Rangers) mainly due to how effortless he is able to throw his fastballs. He can hit the outside corners with them and easily outwork hitter. This season he needs to continue developing his secondary pitches, but the future is bright for him, along with Bumgerner.

But both prospects are still young and can continue to improve, so either way these two can become top of the rotation starters or busts. We just have to see

And not because I’m a Giants fan.

It’s pretty simple, to me. Feliz did OK in AA, but a 4.57 BB/9 is horrible. In fact, his MLE there was not that good, and particularly bad in terms of walks.

The better comparison is that both actually pitched in A-ball in 2008. Sure Bumgarner was there the whole season, but he was basically the same pitcher the whole season, he only had a big jump in rates in his last month there.

Even though Feliz is 20 years old vs. Bumgarner’s 18 years old, Bumgarner pitched significantly better than Feliz did in A-ball. Game over.

In addition, what is not commonly known is that the Giants made Bumgarner try a different throwing motion in his first 3 starts, where he was absolutely horrible, then they allowed him to go back to his original mechanics and dominated after that. His ERA was 0.90 taking out those three games.