Who is the best shortstop prospect in baseball? My top 10
Please find a list below of several top shortstop prospects which I have attempted my best to rank. For the purpose of this exercise I have left out 08' draftees (which you can feel free to opine as to where they should rank on this list) as well as players that look to have graduated to the bigs seemingly to stay.
Also, bear in mind that my rankings are based solely on fantasy value/hitting ability so whether or not they are good defensively makes no difference as I believe most leagues do not use defensive categories.
If I've left anyone else off the list whether by mistake or otherwise I'm sure I'll hear about it real soon.
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1. Brandon Wood - Anaheim (23 yrs old) - .294/.369/.592 for AAA salt lake - 30 homers, 41/101 bb/k ratio - needs a change of scenery perhaps. should be playing full time somewhere. huge power remains, has improved on his k's.
2. Carlos Triunfel - Seattle (18 yrs old) - .284/.336/.407 for high A high desert - 8 homers, 29/48 bb/k ratio, 29/8 sb/cs - questions remain if he can stay at short. also has/had personal issues which caused him to be suspended. other than that, good pd & steals potential. power?
** 3. Elvis Andrus - Texas (19 yrs old) - .295/.350/.374 for AA frisco - 4 homers, 35/87 bb/k ratio, 50/16 sb/cs - extremely speedy as evidenced by huge sb totals, very good pd age relative but big question as to how much power he'll develop. if he swipes 60 plus bags i'll take 10 homers annually, no problem.
4. Adrian Cardenas - Oakland (20 yrs old) - .301/.359/.407 total minors - currently playing for AA midland - 5 homers, 36/63 bb/k ratio, 17/1 sb/cs - very good pd & speed. will the power develop?
5. Alcides Escobar - Milwaukee (21 yrs old) - .332/.367/.440 for AA huntsville - 8 homers, 30/78 bb/k ratio, 32/8 sb/cs - young for the level, hits for high avg, great speed. needs to improce pd & questions remain about how much power he'll develop.
6. Reid Brignac - Tampa Bay (22 yrs old) - .250/.299/.412 for AAA durham - 9 homers, 25:93 bb/k ratio - this ranking is based solely on scouting reports/past history. very mediocre to bad although young for the level. the jury is still out.
7. Todd Frazier - Cincinnati (22 yrs old) - .294/.370/.498 total minors - currently with high A sarasota - 19 homers, 54/108 bb/k ratio, 12/5 sb/cs - can he remain at short? needs to improve pd but i like him quite a bit.
8. Ivan De Jesus - Los Angeles (21 yrs old) - .319/.413/.410 for AA jacksonville - 5 homers, 70/78 bb/k ratio, 14/2 sb/cs - young for the level, great pd, average & sb potential. how much power?
** 9. Wilmer Flores - New York NL (16/17 yrs old) - .311/.354/.485 for R kingsport - 8 homers, 12:27 bb/k ratio - absolutely on fire for the first part of the yr. has cooled of quite a bit but the potential is off the charts.
10. Brandon Hicks - Atlanta (22 yrs old) - .233/.333/.469 total minors - currently with high A myrtle beach - 20 homers, 50/139 bb/k ratio, 12/3 sb/cs - nice power, scary strikeout totals. needs to improve this drastically.
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Flores...
I think you are giving him too much credit for Rookie League stats. He may have the scouting reports too, but take a look at Top 10 prospect lists from Rookie Leagues in past seasons. The percentage of them making it to the majors is so small…
I would much rather see Jason Donald on the list because you know he will at least make the major leagues (probably within the next 12 months) where as I think a guy like Flores has very little chance of making the majors (based on number of rookie leaguers each year who eventually make the majors).
And as much as I hate to say it, I think Andrus is top 3 right now…. and if I had to choose just one SS off that list, I think it would be him.
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by Boxkutter on
Aug 25, 2025 11:00 AM EDT
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very good points
i thought about every one of those points you mentioned. there was such a buzz about flores early on i think i got caught up in it. if andrus steals at this clip which there’s no reason he shouldn’t he’s going to be one valuable player.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 11:07 AM EDT
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Yeah...
the steals are what does it for me. If he can hit 280+ with an OBP of 350 and steal 40+ bases a year while playing decent defense… well, then he’d be a SS version of Juan Pierre. But still, Juan Pierre has his value. And lead-off men are valuable.
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by Boxkutter on
Aug 25, 2025 11:10 AM EDT
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Andrus
would be #3 on that list if i made it.
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by cool hand Charlie on
Aug 25, 2025 11:04 AM EDT
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you're probably right
the more i think about it the more i agree w/ you.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 11:09 AM EDT
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RE: Andrus
The next Jeter!
He should be higher than this… There is not better leader or Defensive specialist in the minors!
by team name deleted on
Aug 25, 2025 1:11 PM EDT
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jeter?
defensive specialist?
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 1:26 PM EDT
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i was just checking.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 4:31 PM EDT
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me too
He could’ve been serious…
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by BlackOps on
Aug 26, 2025 3:06 PM EDT
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Did Cardenas move?
I thought he was a 2B….
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by Brickhaus on
Aug 25, 2025 11:40 AM EDT
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moved back to short since joining midland
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 11:43 AM EDT
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Back?
He’d always been a 2B, even in HS.
Good to know though. Was it more of a move out of necessity, or does he seem to be holding his own there? I don’t remember hearing raves about his defense, even at second.
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by Brickhaus on
Aug 25, 2025 1:45 PM EDT
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sorry, moved to short .. :-)
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 2:01 PM EDT
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defense
i haven’t heard anything either way. however, i remember reading something last yr. where he was thought to be moved to the outfield eventually so it’s doubtful he is exceptional defensively.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 2:03 PM EDT
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Actually, Cardenas was a shortstop in high school and was only moved to second base when he reached the SAL.
by mrkupe on
Aug 25, 2025 4:44 PM EDT
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Phillies first had him at SS
then moved him to 2B, A’s moved him back to SS.
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by Zonis on
Aug 25, 2025 3:14 PM EDT
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Also
What about the recent draftees? I would think that the Beckhams both would rate in the top 10. This is a pretty weak group.
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by Brickhaus on
Aug 25, 2025 11:41 AM EDT
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agreed
i haven’t included recent draftees in any of my lists. they would be at or near the top. thx!
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 11:44 AM EDT
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Triunfel
This is a kid that has played the entire season at age 18, has a .893 OPS in the 2nd half, great contact rate, improved plate discipline, his success on the basepaths has improved dramatically this year, all things you love to see.
From a fantasy perspective, he’s got to be the top pick at SS.
by spidurfan on
Aug 25, 2025 12:00 PM EDT
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you’re lucky i ranked him this high considering none of your prospects ever pan out! i guess i could use the carlos triunfel = elijah dukes comp but that would probably just make you mad. hopefully, he’ll move to thirdbase so you won’t get the added positional benefit.
p.s. love ya babe!
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 12:33 PM EDT
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damn, i was expecting a much better showing from jason donald
he had the highest batting average on the US olympic team, playing SS everyday, batting in the 9 hole.
i think it’s well within the realm of possibility that he turns into a .280/.350/.450 hitter at the major league level. maybe he won’t hit 30 HRs, like brandon wood, and maybe he won’t steal 50 bases like elvis andrus. but he’s a good bet to hit 15-20 HRs, and a good bet to steal 10-15 bases. and he plays a solid enough SS to get in the lineup day in, day out.
my ranking of the position would be as follows:
escobar, MIL
frazier, CIN
wood, LAA
donald, PHI
marcus lemon, TEX
andrus, TEX
cardenas, OAK
dejesus, LAD
justin jackson, TOR
flores, NYM
i’m much more apt to go for the solid, unspectacular, dependable everyday SS, because i think it’s such a hard position to play. i just want a guy who stays within himself and is a solid building block for the future.
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by variablesdont on
Aug 25, 2025 12:33 PM EDT
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Big Marcus Lemon fan myself...
But I don’t think he is ahead of Andrus.
by tyd3311 on
Aug 25, 2025 2:00 PM EDT
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Ditto
In fact, there is no way in hell he’s above Andrus.
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by t ball on
Aug 25, 2025 2:49 PM EDT
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Lemon in August
.204 / .267 / .312
And I’m a fan, too.
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by hightowersmith on
Aug 26, 2025 10:46 AM EDT
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A matter of being solid defensively means a ton for a shortstop. Shortstop is probably the position with the greatest amount of movement away . . .very high standards here. So guys who are definitely going to stick at SS are definitely at a premium here . . .it would take a considerable bat to make up for any questions.
Pete Kozma needs to be on here somewhere. Young but a true SS and an intriguing bat. I’d take Justin Jackson over Brandon Hicks. Little skeptical on Frazier’s glove . . .I don’t think the Reds really know where he slots in yet, but he’s a good enough athlete that playing at SS for the moment is beneficial to his overall development. Nice bat though. Ditto for Cardenas, I think. Jason Donald is intriguing but where on that team does he fit?
by mrkupe on
Aug 25, 2025 1:12 PM EDT
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re: defense
i should have explained myself better concerning my position on defense. certainly defense plays a vital role in whether or not a player will remain at short which is very important.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 1:23 PM EDT
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You can't penalize Donald for being blocked
I wouldn’t have penalized Cardenas for being behind Utley last year. We shouldn’t worry about where Donald fits. He’ll be liberated at some point.
Lillibridge, though, might be a more interesting question.
by aap212 on
Aug 25, 2025 3:04 PM EDT
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Esmailyn Gonzalez
18 year old in Rookie ball for the Nats, signed out of the DR for $1.4M when he was 16. He’s posted a .343/.432/.482 line so far this year, 8/2 SB/CS in 180 PAs. Just Rookie Ball, but his plate discipline and developing power are impressive, and there are few doubts he’ll be able to stick at short.
by seabass on
Aug 25, 2025 1:16 PM EDT
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Gonzalez...
Doesn’t have developing or projectable power. He’s got a good approach, but he’s not going to grow into much.
He’s also been the victim of much more persistent age-gate rumors than most. A couple sources in the DR were saying he was 23 when he signed.
All in all, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he doesn’t get any better than he is now.
by slamcactus on
Aug 29, 2025 1:45 AM EDT
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Cardenas a SS?
Did he move back there for the A’s? I have a hard time believing he’ll play there in the bigs, and regardless, think Brignac belongs higher than him.
Also, if you’re going to put guys like Flores on the list—and I love Flores—you should really put both Beckhams there too.
by aap212 on
Aug 25, 2025 1:45 PM EDT
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beckhams
i didn’t include any 08 draftees.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 2:01 PM EDT
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Brignac Should Be WAY higher
Brignac is the only guy on the list who projects to hit for power, average, and stay at SS. Out of your top 6 only Andrus, Escobar, and Brignac will stay at short
by Birdfan01 on
Aug 25, 2025 2:45 PM EDT
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+1
Triunfel’s rumoured future is thirdbase as he continues to outgrow shortstop. Brignac had a down year but still hit a boatload of doubles and showed that he is one of the few mentioned who actually has a good glove. Frazier’s future is in the OF and Wood will be eventually settle in at third (although not with the Angels).
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by King Billy Royal on
Aug 25, 2025 3:21 PM EDT
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To be fair, though...
Flores will almost certainly outgrow SS too. A move just isn’t as imminent for him as it is for Triunfel.
by aap212 on
Aug 25, 2025 3:57 PM EDT
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+1
Nice call.
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by King Billy Royal on
Aug 25, 2025 4:05 PM EDT
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I’ve used this comp before with Brignac, and as more time passes I feel increasingly good about it. Taller version of Jose Valentin. Takes a while to figure things out, develops some better pitch selectivity, never a high average hitter but has value for a long time as a guy who offers a nice combination of plus pop and decent glove.
Now, I tend to think that’s more of an upside comp than a downside comp. Is Jose Valentin really going to be the best shortstop you can find in the minors today? I think Brignac at No. 6 is entirely defensible.
by mrkupe on
Aug 25, 2025 4:34 PM EDT
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Thats a good point
and well said. I’d like to think Brignac will develop into a LITTLE bit better hitter than Valentin but overall i think his contributions on offense will be similar…usefull offense considering he’ll have a nice glove.
Pwersonally I like Escobar #1 and Gordon Beckham a close #2. Both same age or close… plus ability to put bat on ball with a little pop…. edges will be Escobar with the glove and Beckham with a little more pop…maybe.
I don’t think Triunfel should be ranked anywhere in the top 10 as a SS and I also don’t think he will even be a big league player.
by casejud on
Aug 26, 2025 12:09 AM EDT
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I do not understand Elvis Andrus
Being young and Latin is not some kind of guarantee that you will suddenly learn how to hit a baseball. There’s no possible way he’s in front of most of these guys.
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 25, 2025 3:57 PM EDT
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Think of it this way
If Juan Pierre were a very good defensive shortstop instead of a so-so defensive centerfielder, he would be a valuable player. I think that’s a reasonable, conservative projection for Andrus at this point. He has some projection left as a hitter, but it’s not like anyone here is mistaking him for Miguel Tejada or something.
by aap212 on
Aug 25, 2025 4:30 PM EDT
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Isn't an easier comparison Rafael Furcal?
Considering when Furcal was 19, he was hitting for a .342 slugging percentage in rookie ball, it’s not out of the question that by his prime Andrus will add those 50 slugging percentage points he needs in order to match Furcal’s numbers.
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by OldProspects on
Aug 25, 2025 5:27 PM EDT
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BA doesn't fit
Furcal had better BB/K rates across the board in the minors.
It’s not an unreasonable comp, and I think they’ll be similar in type. I just don’t think Andrus will ever be as good as Furcal.
by mraver on
Aug 26, 2025 8:02 AM EDT
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I agree
that Andrus won’t be as good as Furcal, but I think it’s a little unfair to compare the minorleague BB/K numbers of a 19 year old in AA to a guy who started playing pro-ball at 19 and only had 10 ABs above A+ ball. We know Andrus will improve - the question is how much he will improve
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by OldProspects on
Aug 26, 2025 10:10 AM EDT
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That seems like a decent comparison, but frankly it doesn't excite me
“Valuable player” is not the same as “#3 shortstop in the minor leagues.”
He’s got the “shortstops suck at hitting” thing going for him— if you’re very good at D and can manage average hitting, you can be a +25 run player, which is borderline All-Star worthy. That said, you’re looking at a lot of projection to even get his bat to average territory.
Compare him to DeJesus, who is at the same level, also young (if not as young) for it, and a vastly superior hitter at this point. I cannot fathom putting him behind Ivan Jr. at this point. I’d guess there’s a 80% chance or so that DeJesus has the better career.
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 26, 2025 12:20 AM EDT
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he doesnt
suck at hitting… if you’ve noticed he’s hitting almost .300 in AA at 19, thats pretty damn good for any 19 yr old. Add to that, he’s been improving alot of the year in his ability to hit. I think his numbers are actually gonna be very similar to that of MY’s numbers with slightly less power. He’s got a similar approach and really hits the ball well to right. Id take a .290+ hitting SS with great Speed and D every day of the week.
by blalock84 on
Aug 26, 2025 11:20 PM EDT
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He's striking out 20% of the time, and his average is completely empty
Let me put it this way— if you ignore age (artificial, I know, but bear with me here), Gregorio Petit looks like a better hitter.
Gregorio Petit is the poster child for all-glove shortstops. I like him as a prospect and even I don’t think his offensive upside is more than league-average. He’s not on this list, and I think it would have drawn laughs if he had been included on it.
Obviously Andrus has age on his side, which means something, but I haven’t exactly seen a whole bunch of people predicting that he would suddenly develop plate discipline or power. Even if the potential is there, surely it has to be devalued relative to people who are actually demonstrating it.
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 27, 2025 1:07 PM EDT
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No one thinks
Andrus is going to hit like Arod, but you’re really staying on the surface with your analysis. Do you not agree that the month to month improvement shows him adjusting to AA competition at a young age? Power often develops late, and he just turned 20 yesterday.
I share your skepticism of the typical hype of young and Latin guys (see Joaquin Arias) but it’s misplaced in this instance.
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by t ball on
Aug 27, 2025 2:19 PM EDT
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No, I do not agree that month to month improvement shows anything
A month is an absurdly small sample. Even using a year’s worth of data is a highly questionable methodology, although sometimes it’s all we have to work with. Using months is hogwash.
Analyze enough micro-splits of a guy’s performance and you’re bound to find one that works in his favor.
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 27, 2025 8:53 PM EDT
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Yes,
a month by itself is a small sample. But if a player shows improvement each month, that adds up to an entire season of improvement and is a decent way to measure the progress of a player that started the season as the youngest in the entire league by a wide margin. And it is far from the only way to find favorable numbers for Andrus. There are no unfavorable numbers for him right now if your expectations aren’t too high.
I expect him to spend all of next year in AA-AAA, get a cup of coffee in September and start in Arlington in 2010. He’ll be a decent #9 hitter for a year or two and may always hit in the bottom 3, but he’ll provide good production for a SS and play good defense. Not a superstar, but a solid regular is what I’m thinking.
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by t ball on
Aug 27, 2025 10:28 PM EDT
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OK
I don’t have a problem with your end result there— he does look like a solid regular, maybe Vizquel-ish with (probably) not quite the same amazing defense.
Where I’m going with this is: a guy who projects as a solid regular is the #3 shortstop in the minors? Either baseball is really hard-up for shortstops, or he’s not being ranked correctly.
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 29, 2025 12:44 AM EDT
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I could see
him being #5 or 6 on this list, but I don’t think SS is particularly strong right now.
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by t ball on
Aug 29, 2025 8:45 AM EDT
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re: #3 shortstop
you’re forgetting this list was put together w/ fantasy value in mind. if andrus can hit 10 homers and swipe 60 bags which is absolutely possible he’ll be one valuable player.
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by the pinstripes on
Aug 29, 2025 9:21 AM EDT
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Oh
Forgive me. I assumed that this list was actually based on reality…
Yes, I could see ranking him #3 if you just randomly make steals worth like five times as much as they actually are, for no obvious reason.
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 29, 2025 7:06 PM EDT
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He does hit the ball, just doesn’t do much more than a single with it just yet.
At some point he’s going to have to seriously produce . . .although a .750-.760 OPS would probably make him a pretty good player to have around. Maybe one wouldn’t jump his stock much if any from this year, but he HAS improved his performance slightly despite making the significant jump to AA. I can’t see a good reason why anybody on the Andrus bandwagon would jump off now.
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Aug 25, 2025 4:40 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity,
what do you think of Fernando Martinez? They’re both 19 year olds playing in AA, and have hit for roughly the same good average over the course of their minor league career, walk a reasonable amount (Andrus a touch more) and have below average power (Andrus significantly more below average). Andrus adds to the table terrific speed and being a SS rather than a LF. They seem to be to be roughly comparable
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by OldProspects on
Aug 25, 2025 5:25 PM EDT
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Power isn't
Even if you set aside park factors and injury issues for a moment, Martinez has a 133 isolated slugging percentage this year, while Andrus’ isolated slugging percentage is 79. That’s like the difference in slugging between John McDonald and Jose Reyes last year. I’d give Andrus the edge as a prospect just because of position and defensive ability, but Martinez has significantly more power projection.
by aap212 on
Aug 25, 2025 5:39 PM EDT
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monthly splits
Here is Andrus’ monthly splits
(obp/slg/ops)
April .302/.310/.612
May .343/.322/.666
June .385/..397/.782
July .382/.423/.804
Aug .347/.424/.770
He turns 20 tomorrow.
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Aug 25, 2025 5:55 PM EDT
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the triple slash
it’s simple. really, it is.
BATTING AVERAGE / ON BASE PERCENTAGE / SLUGGING AVERAGE
learn it, live it, love it.
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by variablesdont on
Aug 25, 2025 6:05 PM EDT
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+1
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by King Billy Royal on
Aug 25, 2025 6:42 PM EDT
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...you're going to have to explain to me why I should put any value in this whatsoever
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by PaulThomas on
Aug 26, 2025 12:21 AM EDT
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Ok,
He’s a player who is very young for the league he is in, but instead of being overwhelmed he is adjusting and getting better as the season goes. Both on base and slugging are going in the right direction, and when you watch him play live, you see he’s having good at bats, hitting the ball the other way with authority. His post all-star break OPS is .794. If he had started hot and then faded people would be hyping him more than they are now. But I’d much rather have a player, especially a young one, adjust to the league than the league adjust to him.
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by t ball on
Aug 26, 2025 8:16 AM EDT
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And let me add
I don’t expect him to be a superstar in the major leagues. But if he can put up an OPS in the mid to upper 700s while playing good defense, that’s a successful development story and justifies the excitement about him now.
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by t ball on
Aug 26, 2025 8:17 AM EDT
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Yamaico Navarro
I think I’d toss Yamaico Navarro in there somewhere, probably HM range. Terrific Defensively and his bat has really come alive at the insanely hitter-friendly Lancaster this season.
Touch em all Joe...
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Aug 25, 2025 4:48 PM EDT
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Seems odd....
Why is Triunfel above Andrus? They are on the exact same age track, except Andrus will actually stay at SS. Neither of them hits for much power (Triunfel is at an absurdly favorable park for HRs), and Andrus is better on the bases. I don’t know where they should rate on the overall spectrum, but I really don’t get the comparative ranking.
by aCone419 on
Aug 25, 2025 5:31 PM EDT
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Nor should you...
…because it makes no sense. Andrus would have probably hit .340 or something if he played in the Cal league this year. Triunfel continues to be amazingly overhyped. Probaly 6 better SS’s in the Cal better than him.
by casejud on
Aug 26, 2025 12:12 AM EDT
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Check Andrus
Both have been excellent in the 2nd half.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by zywica on
Aug 29, 2025 5:39 PM EDT
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Not Brignac
I know one thing, Briggy isnt top 5
by Rupert Pupkin on
Aug 25, 2025 5:32 PM EDT
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He can't answer, becuz, like he said
He only knows one thing.
by gogotabata on
Aug 25, 2025 8:33 PM EDT
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that cracked me up...
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 8:41 PM EDT
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tomorrow morning
see my top 25 starting pitchers ….
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on
Aug 25, 2025 8:52 PM EDT
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Thank you....
for taking all the time to do these. They are great conversation pieces and really interesting. I much prefer to see prospect lists by position rather than one big master list.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on
Aug 25, 2025 11:43 PM EDT
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Brave man
you are. That’s going to be interesting.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Aug 25, 2025 11:59 PM EDT
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lol
i had nightmares last night. i’m not so concerned about the 25 i picked rather the order. that’s the toughest part as the difference between say #12 and #20 isn’t all that much in reality but it seems like a lot. oh my 8 spots, what were you thinking? this should be fun.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on
Aug 26, 2025 8:34 AM EDT
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Donald
Man these Phils prospects can’t get any love from you. First Marson & D’Arnaud are stiffed from the top 10 catchers, then Donald here, & Carrasco on the top 25 pitchers.
Not sure where Donald ends up i2B/SS or even 3B in the future. But all he’s done is produce at each level, he’s had .300+ BA, & .850+ OPS at A/A+/AA the past two years & was arguably the best hitter for the US team in the Olympics. He hit 14 HR’s in only 86 games, so he would’ve hit 20+ if not for the Olympics and a few minor injuries.
by Southwest on
Aug 27, 2025 7:59 AM EDT
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re: no love
lol .. and to think my favorite pitcher is cole hamels.
on to your question, given the fact that a few of these players won’t stick at short luke donald would have been next in line. i do like him quite a bit actually.
as for marson, as far as how he’ll do in “real life” i suspect he’d be ranked right up there considering he’s supposed to be very good defensively and an on base machine. lot’s to like here but in terms of fantasy the huge ? for me is the amount of power he’ll have.
carrasco, i’m just not sold on. i don’t think you can really make a case for anyone being bumped off the top 25 for him. that’s obviously not to say he won’t be good or in fact better than some in the top 25. we’ll see what happens.
thx for posting!
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on
Aug 27, 2025 2:17 PM EDT
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Great Posts..my 2 cents..
love the rankings. What is the consensus on Pete Kozma? struggled since his promotion to HI-A….but seems to have potential and is young? he in anyones top 10 SS prospects?
by NYSOX on
Aug 27, 2025 9:50 AM EDT
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Ratings Overall
I find it hard to rate any 18 or 19 year old in A or A+ over say a Jason Donald for example. There are always adjustments from level to level and then some of the luster goes away and then we look for the next 18 year old. I believe we should rate MLB prospects starting in AA and the rate all the rookie and single A players in another group and call them AAA prospects. It just seems that so many progress to AA and the issues begin. Maybe it is just me.
by YZZ on
Aug 27, 2025 5:55 PM EDT
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Hence the term "prospect"
And with all that being said, are those guys in AA or AAA really a more “sure thing” than the 18 or 19 year olds? prospects, no matter what level they are at, are just prospects.
by METSMETSMETS on
Aug 29, 2025 12:58 AM EDT
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Yes?
A guy in AAA is surer than a guy in rookie ball. It’s not an all or nothing thing - he’s closer to the majors than the other because he is, at the moment, better
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by OldProspects on
Aug 29, 2025 9:24 AM EDT
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List
Cardenas
Triunfel
Frazier
Escobar
Wood
Brignac
Andrus
Flores
DeJesus
Donald
by METSMETSMETS on
Aug 28, 2025 10:59 PM EDT
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Wilmer
3-4 rbi double in his Brooklyn debut.
by Peter North on
Aug 28, 2025 11:19 PM EDT
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Carlos Rivero
Not pushing him to be extremely high on the list or anything, but he probably deserves to be mentioned. He’s been 19/20 this year in the CL, and his season line is .282/.344/.398 with a 38/80 (397 AB) BB/SO ratio, but…
since the ASB (exactly half of his ABs): .302/.376/.452, 24/34
and in August: .368/.430/.558 10/12
The book on him has always been that he will (or has already) outgrow short, but I’ve read some comments this season from Indians/CL people with a much more optimistic view of his ability to stay at the position. And there is the thought out there that his has a great deal of offensive upside.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by zywica on
Aug 29, 2025 2:01 AM EDT
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