OPS + Question
Hi guys. I'v got a question regarding the pretty commonly used stat OPS+. On baseball reference, it seems to me that the OPS + number that is given for players is their percentage above average for ALL of MLB. What I am looking for is OPS + for each position.
As you well know, a 1st basemen with an OPS + of 105 is not nearly as valuable as a catcher with and identical reading. Basically, what I'm looking for is that OSP + adjusted for a players main position. Any insight at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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may have something like that.
I just find it easier to use VORP
by METSMETSMETS on
Aug 28, 2025 2:26 PM EDT
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Also...
VORP is adjusted for position on there, essentially what you are looking for.
by casejud on
Aug 28, 2025 5:01 PM EDT
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It is all of baseball.
Its not corrected for position.
It probably wouldnt be that hard to take the starters, like minimum 400 AB, at each position and average their OPS+ numbers. It wouldnt be exact, but it would give you a nice ballpark figure. I dont know of anywhere you could fins that now, though.
by alskor on
Aug 28, 2025 2:37 PM EDT
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No it's not.
It’s league-dependent, and adjusted for ballpark.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on
Aug 30, 2025 8:38 PM EDT
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Use EqA
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/eqa2008.php#postot
Divide player EqA by positional average.
by dkdc on
Aug 28, 2025 3:02 PM EDT
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The Easy Way Out
This data may be slightly out dated, but it is seemingly relavent.
The Hardball Times did a study about the average player in respect to OPS+, check out the link here
by bbdbrandon on
Aug 28, 2025 11:10 PM EDT
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Thanks Alot
Thanks for everything. That article was especially interesting. This site once again proves to be one of, if not the best resources around. Nice work.
by baseballgg24 on
Aug 28, 2025 11:55 PM EDT
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B-R to the rescue
If you use the splits pages on Baseball-Reference.com, you can simply check a player’s “sOPS+” by position, which appears to be exactly what you’re looking for.
For example, in 2008 Hanley Ramirez has an overall OPS+ of 143 and a sOPS+ of 160 as a SS.
(Note that the sOPS+ includes only PA while at a specific position; thus, it skips Hanley’s few PAs as a PH or DH.)
by ManConley on
Aug 30, 2025 2:36 AM EDT
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