Prospect Retro: Frank Thomas
John is busy and sent me this to post.
Frank Thomas was drafted by the White Sox in the first round in 1989, seventh overall, out of Auburn. He was considered the most polished college hitter available, but concerns about his defense worried a few folks. The players drafted ahead of him that year were (in order): Ben McDonald, RHP, LSU; Tyler Houston, C, Nevada HS; Roger Salkeld, RHP, California HS; Jeff Jackson, OF, Illinois HS; Donald Harris, OF, Texas Tech; Paul Coleman, OF, Texas HS. All the position players were considered far toolsier than Thomas.
During his junior year at Auburn, Thomas had hit .403/.560/.601 with an incredible 73 walks against 25 strikeouts in 206 at-bats. He signed quickly and began his pro career in the Gulf Coast League, playing 17 games and hitting .365/.470/.519 in a tuneup. Promoted to Sarasota in the Florida State League, he hit .277/.386/.399, not much power but he did draw 31 walks in 188 at-bats. A similar guy now with that kind of college track record and plate discipline would get a Grade A- from me.
Thomas began 1990 in Double-A, hitting .323/.487/.581 with 112 walks and 74 strikeouts in 353 at-bats. Realizing they had something special on their hands, the Sox promoted him to Chicago and he hit .330/.454/.529 in 60 games, exceeding rookie qualifications. By any standard he's be a Grade A prospect.
As you know, Thomas was a devastating hitter through most of the 1990s and is still effective when healthy even now. Someone asked what kind of prospect he was, so here's the answer: he was a terrific hitting prospect and the fact that he wasn't a great fielder or as toolsy as Jeff Jackson, Don Harris, Paul Coleman, or Tyler Houston didn't end up mattering one bit.
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I love that Frank Thomas card. It was hilarious to see this giant man in an Auburn uniform apparently playing against a little league team. Worst border/card design ever for Topps, by the way. Quite a career by any measure.
by TC Chris on May 3, 2025 1:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Disagree....
The 1987 “wood” borders I thought were far worse.
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by Boxkutter on
May 3, 2025 3:40 PM EDT
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I loved those
1987 was the year I started collecting cards so those bad boys have sentimental value.
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by King Billy Royal on
May 3, 2025 4:09 PM EDT
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Had his rookie card (upper deck)...
but my brother sold it. I was kind of pissed when I found out. Frank is so huge, he’s almost as tall on one knee as the guy he’s tagging.
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by parrot11 on
May 3, 2025 7:14 PM EDT
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His 1991 Upper Deck card is worth a quarter
I wouldn’t be too upset.
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by thejd44 on
May 4, 2025 10:32 PM EDT
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As I recall
Thomas played tight end for the Auburn football team a little too
by nms on May 3, 2025 3:12 PM EDT 0 recs
it's funny
how if you look around at these current / recently retired HOFer, very very few if any of them were 1st overall (well A-rod is.) many even went a lot later than first round.
baseball drafts are probably the most unpredictable result wise.
by RollingWave on May 4, 2025 6:28 AM EDT 0 recs
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It’s hardly surprising though considering there is just one player that goes no.1 overall and 1000+ guys that go after that.
by The Big Hurt on
May 4, 2025 5:39 PM EDT
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Another side note to obvious greatness
In 1990, Frank Thomas started his professional career at AA-Birmingham. Along with him hitting .323/.487/.581, he was selected to the Southern League’s All-Star Team. He started at a level many consider one of the toughest minor leagues in all of the minors, batted well over .300, was on base nearly 50% of the time, and was selected to the Southern League’s All-Star Team. Looking back on it, he was a for sure Grade A prospect and potential Hall of Famer.
The 1990 Southern League’s All-Star Game was held in Chattanooga, Tennessee, the home of Cincinnati’s AA-Affiliate Chattanooga Lookouts. I was 15 years-old at the time and Thomas was just then starting to get some notice. He was joined on that team by Jeff Conine, Brian McRae, Scott Erickson, and Scott Brosius. I did notice while watching warm ups there was something that made Frank Thomas stick out over the others on the field. (Although, his size did make him easy to find.) I, too, am a card collector and was collecting that year (fortunately). I started my collection in 1982 and had been following card values since 1986. During 1990, I had gotten plenty of doubles of the 1990 Score 1990 Topps Thomas rookie. Leaf made its return to the card collecting. The 1990 Leaf Frank Thomas was highly sought after at the time. A pack of 1990 Leaf of the time was anywhere between from$6 to $8. Within a year of its release, the ‘90 Leaf Frank Thomas was book price in Beckett was approaching $100. Just another side note to obvious greatness.
Side Bar: I agree with that the 1987 and 1990 boards are just bad, but I tend to lean toward the 1986 cards. In my opinion, Topps started going down hill from the release of the 1986 set. Coupled with poor design and over production, made Topps the old grandfather of baseball cards in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s.
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by paw75 on May 4, 2025 8:47 AM EDT 0 recs
Can I just say that I find it appalling
that a great number of people, especially people in Chicago (where I live), don’t think Frank is a Hall of Famer.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on May 4, 2025 10:32 PM EDT 0 recs
For real. He was probably the best hitter in baseball for an entire decade. That makes you HOF in my opinion
by yondaime4 on
May 4, 2025 11:31 PM EDT
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PTI
According to Michael Wilbon, the Chicago based PTI reporter, Frank Thomas is a first ballot Hall of Famer and a first ballot jerk. I found it really interesting that a Chicago reporter who has inside knowledge of the Chisox would feel that way about him.
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by King Billy Royal on
May 5, 2025 10:27 AM EDT
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It doesn't surprise me
Thomas never got along with the Chicago media. Often it seemed like a collective media effort to drag Frank’s name through the mud on a weekly basis while Sammy Sosa was deemed a diety by these same hacks.
It goes to show that all it takes is a wink and a smile for the media to act as if you’re the nicest guy on the block. Frank wasn’t much of a media talker, so he was a pariah. A lot of writers in this city came up with “Frank is a selfish player” rhetoric, which doesn’t even make any sense when it comes to baseball because his “selfish” .400 OBP and .550 SLG won the Sox a lot of games.
Every account of fan interaction with Frank, including one with my own father, was completely positive. This isn’t to say he’s always been the perfect guy to fans, but there are certainly many worse athletes out there who haven’t been villified like he has.
And, you know, at least Wilbon admits he’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer. A lot of the Chicago media uses their bias against him to fuel their belief that he isn’t deserving.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on
May 6, 2025 1:28 PM EDT
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Thomas was a nice guy
at Auburn. I actually had a class with him there and he showed great respect to the teacher and appeared to do his work. He was a good tight end at Auburn but was injured some and saw his future in Baseball
I once talked to a Reds scout about him and he said they shied away from him because of some personal issues. When I asked about it, they said attitude and there were some other things that wouldn’t go over too well in Cincy like having a white girlfriend. Hard to believe that 20 years ago those things were big issues but they were.
by Duman on May 23, 2025 11:29 AM EDT 0 recs







