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Their Grade Now

Let's do some group thinking. Post prospects in the comment section who has seen their stock raise/drop this year and let the rest of the community decide what grade he should be right now. This should be fun.

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C+

Better control, a lot better results in the minors, a bit old and could be considered AAAA pitcher by detractors.

by playingwithfire on Jul 28, 2025 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Despite being a bit old, he has put up some very solid ratios in AAA, striking out over 9/9IP, and seems to have finally figured out how to command the strike zone. His fastball and curveball are both plus pitches. He seems to me to be a late bloomer. Although he has been roughened up in his first 2 starts, his 3rd in the big league was promising. I think he will be a league average starter once he learns not to beat himself.

by slitheringslider on Jul 28, 2025 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Age isn’t the concern with pitching prospects that it is with hitters. Good stuff and minor league pedigree combined with recent minor league dominance give him a good chance of being a mid-rotation starter. That’s worth a B.

Purcey’s a month younger than Dustin McGowan.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

That should read, “draft pedigree”. As a former first-rounder, he’ll get every chance to stick that the Jays can give him.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Health is a concern with Purcey as well.

Purcey is also going to be out of options soon. So while he may be given opportunity this season and next. If he can’t stick he may see himself on the waiver wire. Josh Banks was released quickly despite being a 1S pick.

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by achengy on Jul 30, 2025 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Better results, still young, power still not really here, still strikes out too much.

by playingwithfire on Jul 28, 2025 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Biggest point is still young. xbh ratio is fine despite the homers lacking. Reports of improved defense

by blee1134 on Jul 28, 2025 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Bouncing back nicely from a miserable campaign last year. Has a sweet lefty swing but is still a bit of a 1-tool player, his only plus skill has been his ability to hit for average. Was bad/terrible at base running and defense coming out of high school and has shown steady improvement for a year and a half and is now seen as average to above average at both skills with room for further improvement. Still not a great natural athlete but playing more instinctive now with a pretty good arm in the outfield. At the plate Sulentic still has a mediocre BB/K rate but it is not terrible and has hit a decent amount of doubles but is still lacking in power for a corner outfielder.

Now that he is hitting again Sulentic is at least worth keeping an eye on but unless he can start to show more power or improve his plate discipline he still profiles as not much more than a 4th outfielder. The positives are that he is still young and has demonstrated a strong work ethic during his struggles so there is still a decent amount of potential there.

by DiegoAsFan on Jul 28, 2025 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

The guy still has a ton of talent. Ok, he’s 19 and struggling in AA. Is it troubling? A little, but talent is talent, and the kids still got tools, and a pretty good track record before this season.

by jseiner on Jul 28, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Maybe even a C+. I like his improved BB/K ratio this year, and the improved SB%. But he is showing a severe lack of power with only 12 XBH in almost 300 at bats. Youth is his best attribute right now.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Still young and projectable. I’d cut some slack for a 19 year old in AA.

jseiner and I agree on this one.

by METSMETSMETS on Jul 30, 2025 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+/B-

Tabata failed to show any power and couldn’t even adjust to the new conditions in Trenton. He didn’t even hit for average. I doubt any meaningful power will show up, but I think he’ll be able to hit .280 in the majors, at least. I honestly think Tabata should focus on being more of an extreme-contact guy, a la Ichiro, instead of hitting for power, because he would then be more valuable in the majors. He just doesn’t have the frame for 30 homers. That said, he is still young and he could get much better.

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by bobbymcnally on Aug 11, 2025 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B+. Secondary pitches are developing, he’s throwing strikes more consistently. Still needs work but the much talked about potential may be materializing.

by toonsterwu on Jul 28, 2025 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who's unconvinced about him?

In AA this year, he had a 44:42 K:BB in 76 IP. His last 41 IP has been the first time in his entire career where he struck out more a large amount of batters. I’m not saying he doesn’t have potential, but I want to see a lot more

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by OldProspects on Jul 28, 2025 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

What OldProspects said

by playingwithfire on Jul 28, 2025 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what grade to give him...

...But I think Samardzija could be one of those guys that proves how deceiving minor league stats can be. Sometimes I think people forget that the minors are meant to prepare a player for the majors, not simply to put up big numbers. I know I’ve seen countless prospects put up huge numbers in the minors and then struggle in the majors because they were either just throwing a high-90’s fastball by minor league hitters or crushing minor league fastballs. Once they reached the majors, they were outmatched.
In the Shark’s case, his bad numbers might have just arisen from the fact that he was working on his off-speed stuff, which wasn’t very good and was getting crushed. Now granted, this is pure speculation on my part, but it would make a lot of sense to explain his weird progression (statistically) up the minor league levels.

by joltinjoe on Jul 28, 2025 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I think a solid B or a B+ sounds about right at this point. We’ll know more at the end of the season though. But he seems like a sure thing for at least a decent bullpen arm right now, but I hope he starts next year.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

That fastball isn’t to be ignored. He can probably survive the bigs with that great fastball and bad breaking ball. He could be great when he improves that breaking pitch.

by METSMETSMETS on Jul 30, 2025 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Power has been there all along, but now average has started to climb

by jvidri9 on Jul 28, 2025 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Need to find a position. Bat is good and all.

by playingwithfire on Jul 28, 2025 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with a B for Carter

He is one of the best power hitters in the minors right now, and a decent age for his level I think it’s a good bet that the power will translate as he moves up. The average is low but he has been very streaky, I think at the end of the season it will be decent for a power hitter. The K’s are obviously too high but there is time to work on it, and with his power some K’s are to be expected.

Carter’s defense is the big wild card right now if he can stick anywhere on the diamond his stock improves, and it especially goes up if he stays at 3B. I’m not sure how seriously the club is taking the 3B experiment, if they really think he can handle it or if it is just a long shot to help fill orginizational need.

by DiegoAsFan on Jul 28, 2025 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

No position and horrible strikeout rate. Great power at .260 average in the Cal league doesnt project well…imo.

by tt68 on Jul 28, 2025 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1

Ryan Howard strikes out a lot too… and Carter has progressed a lot faster than Howard did. I gave him a B+ a few weeks ago.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 28, 2025 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

Howard is an exception to the rule.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could see him having...

A Chris Davis like rise next year if he can put it all together.

B+

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

freaking amazing hitter.

by METSMETSMETS on Jul 30, 2025 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-. I’m tempted to drop him even more, but this seems to be a case of a guy forcing patience and thus hurting his natural instincts. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

by toonsterwu on Jul 28, 2025 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Tools are still there, just not having a great season. If it continues next year though I think he will drop all the way down to a C at the end of the ‘09 season.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Doesn’t seem like there’s much to get excited about, does there?

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+.

Doing what people expected last year in AA, but at this stage, he needs to show more improvement. Potentially inching towards a move to the pen, where as a power pen arm, he could build a long career. That said, I think you give him until the end of the year, and maybe early next year.

by toonsterwu on Jul 28, 2025 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Some thought his offensive numbers were a product of friendly hitting environments in A+, but the kid has continued to mash in AA. Small sample size, but the bat definitely looks for real. With Buster Posey drafted, Sandoval will have to make his mark at a different position (1B? what about Big V?) or move to another organization.

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 28, 2025 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

I’ve been very impressed with Pablo’s offensive ability from what I’ve seen of him in person. His bat is legit and he’s adequate behind the plate.

by SBcaptain2 on Jul 28, 2025 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Yeah I would give him a B+ at this point. Maybe an A- if he continues his hot hitting in the less than friendly Dodd Stadium.

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by camwoody on Jul 29, 2025 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

I’m a big fan of Pablo, but B+ is too high right now. There are still questions about his defense, and his bat at 1B wouldn’t be nearly as valuable. Connecticut is a very hard park to hit in in April and May, but it plays fairly neutral as the weather warms up. I want to see 100 more at-bats in AA before I raise his grade. Still, fantastic breakout year for Pedro. As a Giants fan and early member on the Sandoval bandwagon, I hope to see him in the big leagues this september.

by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2025 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Needs to show that his constantly improving minor league contact skills can translate to the big leagues. He’s walking more, striking out less, and hitting for more power in his second run at AAA, and there’s no reason for him not to be playing for the Mariners right now. He could easily be putting up a .300/.400/.600 line in Tacoma if it weren’t for bad BABIP luck.

The only reason he doesn’t keep the B+ is because I don’t trust the M’s to give him the ABs he needs to make the next step.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Good stats at AAA, but hasn’t made transition in brief stings in the Majors.

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by Zonis on Jul 29, 2025 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You think...

that his “brief” failure to make that transition is enough reason to drop him from a B+ to a C+? Doesn’t seem very reasonable to me.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Erbe

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by Metty5 on Jul 28, 2025 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B-

Big improvement in K/BB this year, but the gopheritis is concerning.

High risk/high reward.

by dkdc on Jul 29, 2025 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

He is still young for Hi A eventhough he repeats it this year. He’ll never have great command, but he certainly has the stuff where even a small increase in command will generate large improvements. I see him as a big league #3.

by Birdfan01 on Jul 31, 2025 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Is still atrocious from the stretch? I recall multiple scouting reports years ago indicating that the guy is money until somebody gets on base, at which point he just totally falls apart. His peripherals with runners on this year look passable, but still aren’t anything to write home about.

Personally I think he’s most likely to end up as a quality pen arm, but he’s just so damn young that it’s hard to peg that projection on a kid with his build and arm.

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

bases empty:
304 batters faced, 53 H, 6 HR, 82/21 K/BB
men on:
174 batters faced, 45 H, 12 HR, 32/15 K/BB

That should be fixable. David Hernandez had the same problem and is much better this year.

by dkdc on Aug 1, 2025 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Reddick

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by the pinstripes on Jul 28, 2025 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B or B-

Has shown power and base stealing ability. If he does well in AA (out of the Cal League now) for the rest of the season…. and can put up similar numbers in AA as he did in A+, I could even see an argument made for a possible B+. Not sure how great his defense is though. He gets extra points because when he was drafted in my DMB League, the auto censor on the message board changed his named from “Reddick” to “Redthingy”.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there's a decent argument he's already a B+

though I think you’re right that a B is better. He hits for solid power and doesn’t strike out a lot; if he can keep his batting average around .300, then I think there’s a case to be made that he’s as good a hitter as Mat Gamel (Gamel walks somewhat more, Reddick strikes out somewhat less, and has somewhat more power). I don’t know how good of a fielder he is, but a better fielding Gamel with more speed seems to deserve some discussion at least for a B+

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

David Hernandez

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by the pinstripes on Jul 28, 2025 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B

Always struck out a lot of people. His control is a bit iffy, but he still looks like a very good pitcher

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by OldProspects on Jul 28, 2025 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Agreed.

Elite strikeout numbers can’t be ignored, but limiting walks is the key for Hernandez.

by dkdc on Jul 29, 2025 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dominic Brown

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by the pinstripes on Jul 28, 2025 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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what we know now: has shown very good plate discipline w/ 47/59 bb to k ratio to go along w/ 16 steals.
the future: being 6’5” and only 200 or so pounds he should fill in and add power. only 7 hr’s in 375 ab is somewhat dissapointing. i expect this to change.

i’d give him a B

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by the pinstripes on Jul 28, 2025 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+, buy now

i’ve seen him play 3 times this year, and while he hasn’t been the best player on the field (michael taylor and mike durant have flat crushed the ball at lakewood), he projects to be a delmon young type impact player in the high minors. most phillies hitting prospects don’t really start hitting homeruns until AA, because their A and A+ parks are pitcher friendly parks in pitcher friendly leagues, and i don’t think that’ll be any different for brown, but two years from now, in 2010, in AA, he’s gonna tear the cover off the ball (20 HRs, .320 avg, not to mention 20 SBs).

there’s not a doubt that brown is the top OF prospect in the organization. it’s not collier or taylor, gose or golson.

by variablesdont on Jul 28, 2025 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Rowell

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by JT12340 on Jul 28, 2025 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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Rowell gets a C. Scouting reports on him aren’t very good in just about every way possible, and the numbers have gone from decent to sucktacular.

Right now, his age and pedigree are basically all he has going for him. And while those will give him opportunities galore, I’m skeptical at this point that it’ll all translate into a useful major leaguer in the end.

by mrkupe on Jul 28, 2025 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Tool and pedigree still here, could still come out of nowhere anytime.

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

A dissapointing year for Billy, but he’s still hitting at ~90% of the league average where he’s one of the youngest players in the league.

He has the tools and has hit at lower levels, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he looks a lot better his second time through the Carolina League. He’ll have to find a way to hit LHPs, though.

by dkdc on Jul 29, 2025 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

I’m defidentaly in the minority on Rowell, but I still like him. I’ve seen him play a couple times this year and while his numbers don’t suggest it, he has a great fluid swing. Furthermore he has a lanky frame that will certainly begin to fill out, remember he is still just 19 in Hi A. On the flip side his defense is terrible, no range, bad hands, but he does have a strong arm. I think down the line he will be an Aubrey Huff like player, where he can play 3B, RF, 1B, but none of them well, and may end up splitting time at all three and DH

by Birdfan01 on Jul 31, 2025 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C

He’s been overrated all along.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Defense is still a major question mark. Elite batting eye (53BB:49K in 87 games) and constantly improving power.

After putting a .279/.390/.397 skipped a level to AA and putting up a .343/.436/.489.

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by achengy on Jul 28, 2025 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Everything you said, plus the fact that he is no better than a platoon guy right now. But he is doing well. I like him, just wish he could hit LHP.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 28, 2025 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

would like to see him moved up

by god allah star on Jul 28, 2025 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

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by Boxkutter on Jul 28, 2025 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I don’t get why people are so excited about him. He looks to me like somewhere between a Carlos Gomez or a Jacoby Ellsbury - in three years

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by OldProspects on Jul 28, 2025 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

unlike Gomez, Revere’s shown pretty good plate discipline (23:27 BB:K ratio), and Gomez hit .275 at the same level only at only 6 months younger than Revere’s current .399 performance.

by Grudyfan on Aug 2, 2025 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another B

I’d like to see some more walks and something other than gap power before proclaiming him anything but the next Jeremy Reed.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point...

A Luis Polonia (career .293 hitter with 300+ SBs) upside isn’t bad. Good, not great.

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 29, 2025 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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B+. Kid can clearly hit and he’s got elite speed. Solid eye at the plate too.

I think he’d be a good candidate to skip the FSL next year.

by mrkupe on Jul 28, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with everything you say

I gave him a B, but I could see him getting a B+. He has shown nice doubles and triples power so far, and his SB/CS ratio has improved lately. I can’t see giving him an A or A- yet though. To me, those are reserved for “sure thing” prospects, and with Revere still in LoA, he is far from a sure thing. He is one of the best lead-off hitting prospects out there though.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

The man is hitting an unreal .404. He has great contact ability and is line driving the ball all over the place. Mix that with his elite speed and we have the next great leadoff hitter.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2025 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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I’m very tempted to say A-, but I still have concerns about how his power will hold up at higher levels. He also needs to improve his defense . . .if he’s a left fielder then I’d have a hard time projecting him as anything more than a slightly above-average player in the best case right now.

But the bat is pretty freaking awesome for a kid his age, there’s no doubt of that.

by mrkupe on Jul 29, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has a .437 BABIP

And a 16% LD rate. I’m not saying he won’t develop - I think he will be a good player - but he isn’t Ichiro yet

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BABIP

The guy’s hitting like .400 and hasn’t hit a single ball out of the park - you think his BABIP might be really high?

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly?

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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What I’m confused by is the way you seem to act like it’s a bad thing.

.400 is .400 anyway you slice it.

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the question is if it's sustainable

His GB rate is 63% and his BABIP is .437. That means he is getting a lot of hits off of groundballs. You can get away with that sort of thing in A ball if you’re fast enough and lucky enough, but I have serious doubts whether that will continue into the upper levels and certainly not in the major leagues. I’m not saying that a .400 batting average is bad, or that Revere is bad - simply that he isn’t anywhere nearly as good as his numbers now make him seem. To take the batting average on face value seems to me to be a recipe for disappointment.

My other major concern with him is power. I have no formal analysis behind this, but his XBH seem odd - how many batters get XBH almost 10% of their ABs but no home runs? Last year, he has more triples than doubles, and even this year he has a 2:1 doubles:triples ratio. Instinctively, this seems very strange. What this means I don’t know, but I’m very wary of saying anything about his power until I see him in higher levels, so we can see how much of this is real power and how much is speed.

With the negatives aside, I do think he is a good player. He doesn’t strike out and seems like he could hit .300 in the majors with excellent speed. That’s value. Whether he becomes a Juan Pierre or a Jacoby Ellsbury remains to me an open question, and I’d be very surprised if he becomes more than that.

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frederick Freeman - 1B - ATL

Just curious to see what you all think of him now…

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by ejruiz on Jul 28, 2025 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Solid B

His performance has been fantastic, not to mention he is still only 18. The rare low minors masher who doesn’t have a problem with K’s. Could be up to B+ if he stays as hot as he’s been the past month, but that would be asking an awful lot.

by aCone419 on Jul 28, 2025 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

VERY impressive season for a kid his age. Great power and approach at the plate. If he could just hit lefties a little better, I would have him at an A-. Ya ya, I am overrating him a bit, but the kid has really ‘wowed’ me thus far. He still seems a little under the radar.

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 28, 2025 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Dont like the Ks, but LOVE the HUGH power this kid has. He definitely looks like a 30-40 HR potential kid.

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 28, 2025 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

I really don’t see 30-40 HR potential from him.

by aap212 on Jul 29, 2025 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

You are thinking about the lefty reliever, haha.

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 29, 2025 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanton

I think that he is most likely the next Russell Branyon. He will hit homeruns but it will be difficult for him to hit .230.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 29, 2025 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 more HRs tonight...

26 on the season. Did I mention he is only 18?

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 29, 2025 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

27 HRs...

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by Dewey Finn on Jul 31, 2025 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zach McAllister

good numbers, velocity reportedly up from low to mid 90s.

by number_twentyone on Jul 28, 2025 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nick Barnese

What do you think of him.

by Bravesin07 on Jul 28, 2025 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he's terrific

Strikes out a load of people and solid control. B+?

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by OldProspects on Jul 28, 2025 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Mostly a sinker guy now. Throws 91-93, projectable, but doesn’t have the breaking pitch yet.

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by Tyler on Jul 28, 2025 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Want to see him at higher levels though.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response

Definitely a B

by mrkupe on Jul 29, 2025 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B flat

Needs to develop some more pitches. The life on his fastball is encouraging for someone as young as he is.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Real power, real patience, but has had nearly 1000 AB’s in AA.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grade: Probably better than Ross Gload

Don’t know too much about him to comment, just a Royals fan venting.

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vince Mazzaro - RHP - Oak

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Jul 28, 2025 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jul 28, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Leadin the Texas League in ERA, and has good numbers, and is still quite young. Still, its his first good year in Pro Ball, though interesting that it came in Double A.

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by Zonis on Jul 29, 2025 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Besides of lack of track record and still suspect offspeed stuff, this year has been unreal, still, with this Oakland pitching crowd, when will he get a chance, and is that going to be in the rotation?

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

I think he’s way overshadowed right now but could turn into a solid steady strong #3 in a rotation.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ross detwiler

Carlos Quentin's time has arrived.

by Team Moneyball on Jul 28, 2025 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

L

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jul 28, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

But that B- is pretty much all on pedigree, and the hope that he rebounds. C+ might be more accurate.

by aCone419 on Jul 28, 2025 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Oh man, was I high on him, I thought I find the next Tim Lincecum to make an impact right away. All the right situations, terrible rotation candidates, NL East hitting, good college pedigree…

the only reason he’s a C+ is because of pedigree.

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Good stuff, good control, good stats; I don’t see any reason why he can’t be a very good pitcher.

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

smoke + mirrors + back-end rotation talent = thompson, 2008

I'll warm up with you anytime

by ufoboy90 on Jul 29, 2025 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just curious

which thompson are you grading? This year’s Thompson, the guy who has consistently shown front end stuff, or previous incarnations?

by toonsterwu on Jul 30, 2025 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Front end stuff? Thompson is decent but at best I would project him to be a backend starter (and that is a GOOD thing).

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 30, 2025 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"stuff"

prior to this year, thompson was a high 80’s fastball guy with raw secondary stuff.

This year, he’s been running it consistently in the low-mid 90’s and his breaking ball and changeup have gotten better. Maybe I should’ve been clearer about front end. I’m not saying ace level stuff. I tend to think, numerically, that “2/3” starters are front end, and I think this year’s version of Thompson has “2/3” front-end stuff. Whether or not he can continue that is certainly debatable, but his stuff has been real good this year, on par with a personal favorite of mine, another “2/3” projection in Sean Gallagher.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2025 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

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by OldProspects on Jul 28, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

Seems like the easiest grade of those here. A whole bunch of positives, but not quite refined enough for the A range.

by aCone419 on Jul 28, 2025 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Needs to keep an eye on the walks, and his upside may only be a #2, but there’s not much to dislike here.

by dkdc on Jul 29, 2025 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Not a huge fan at all. Seems like someone who will put up great numbers in the minors but will be merely average in the majors.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Based upon?

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a bad fielding 3B

with only above average power who doesn’t walk very much. Also even this year, his power has been dropping each month. In April, his isolated power was .304. In May, it dropped to .282. By June, it was .181 and in July it’s been .093. I’m not quite as down on him as KBR: even when his batting average comes down to earth I think he’ll still be a very good hitter, but not a sensational one. I’d say a B+

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by OldProspects on Jul 28, 2025 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I should have mentioned about Gamel’s disappearing power. For Gamel to truly receive an A-, he would have to mash in the majors as a corner OF (he isn’t staying in the infield) and I doubt he does. I do think he will have a good career but will not even be close to a star. However, that is just my opinion.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 29, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

One of the better hitting prospects out there, but lack of a defensive position knocks him down from an A- to a B+.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds right to me

don’t forget, even when he wasn’t hitting scouts have been gushing about his talent with the stick

I'll warm up with you anytime

by ufoboy90 on Jul 29, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

Clearly becoming elite…

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

Now the Athletic’s top prospect

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by Zonis on Jul 29, 2025 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

Me trading him was a mistake a year ago. A’s did have some terrible pitcher development track record back then with namely Italiano on the DL and a bunch of other highly drafted HS arms failing.

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

If he had a 95-96mph fastball he’d be the best pitching prospect in the game with his #’s.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feliz's numbers are right with his

If not better.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739

by BudLight on Aug 1, 2025 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And everyone loves Feliz

He’s just further away.

by aap212 on Aug 1, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How so? They are both a AA

and they have remarkably similar stats. I would say you are likely to see both in the majors next year.

by tt68 on Aug 1, 2025 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feliz

Still has work to do on his secondary stuff. His FB is so good he’s using mostly that in AA still.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 9, 2025 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

I still think he’s a reliever, but impressive numbers so far.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adrian Cardenas- 2B OAK

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Jul 28, 2025 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+

Average 2B defense, combined with a very good bat. He goes to an organization that, as of late, has put a lot of empehsis on developing fielding skills, so he might be able to stick at 2B. Question is if his bat will carry him if he ever does fall to 3B, but he can probably hold his own there. Quite possibly the top 2B Prospect in the minors.

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by Zonis on Jul 29, 2025 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

About the best 2B spec out there, Bright future. Defense a question, how will Oakland work out Cardenas and Weeks?

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Need to see more especially if he can stick at 2B. I can see him being Renteria like offensively.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Coghlan - 2B - Marlins

Selfish reason here, I just drafted him. But he is hitting well, has shown good plate discipline, decent pop for a middle infielder, and has shown plus speed. I think Coghlan is the reason that they should move Uggla to 1B where his defense will play better.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 28, 2025 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right

He’s a little bit like a faster 2B version of Russell Martin - a very solid player at a shallow position who could, if everything works out, become one of the better players at the position simply by being good at a lot of things. I’d probably go B+

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

He’s heading off to the Olympics, so he won’t see AA this year, but he’s passed all of his tests so far.

by dkdc on Jul 29, 2025 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Donaldson

Spectacular 2007 playing in a too-low level, after being taken #48 overall out of Auburn. He stunk (badly) for Ryne Sandberg’s Chiefs before being traded to Oakland, where he’s taken a liking to the California league in his brief time there (.362/.439/.638 in 58 AB).

by BobbyMac on Jul 28, 2025 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B-

I’m probably giving him a bit too much credit, but I still like him and am not at all surprised by his A+ resurgence.

by aCone419 on Jul 28, 2025 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Defensive questions means he’s gotta mash to be a solid prospect. He’s shown signs of a plus bat at catcher, but he’s struggled equally as much. There’s a lot of upside here, as he has all the talent to be an all-star catcher, but needs to catch up with the skills.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

but with the (good for him) caveat that I think he’s equally valuable to the A’s at catcher or third base. So maybe a B- value-wise.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 29, 2025 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

C..Maybe C+ as a 3b

by blee1134 on Jul 29, 2025 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

I’m really optomistic about him and think he could be the best player we got in this whole deal.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it'll be Gallagher

but as for Donaldson, I’ll go C+. The reports all year were that his defense was improved to the point where he might be considered average (which is a big improvement). The offensive reports were that he was making good contact but not getting hits. In saying all this, you still need to produce, so as of now, Donaldson should probably slide down a bit.

Now, if Josh finishes strong, then maybe he gets considered as a B/B- at the end of the year. As of now, you still gotta produce, so I would slide him down to a C+.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2025 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Small sample sizes in the Cali league need to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vin Mazzaro SP

maybe a B

i get varying info on this guy. he’s putting up a 2era in AA Texas League at 21 yrs old. has a low 90’s sinker, tops 94mph. But BA says his off speed stuff is inconsistent. i read he throws a knuckle curve and changeup

by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 28, 2025 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Struggling Pitchers

Luke Hochevar
Nick Adenhart
Franklin Morales
Homer Bailey
Thomas Diamond

by gunkdog on Jul 29, 2025 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Diamond

This is his recovery year from TJ. So I take his results with a grain of salt. His curveball is miles ahead of where it was and his fastball is coming back slowly. He is probably a reliever down the line and no longer one of the Rangers’ top prospects. But, I am happy to see him back out there and think he has a bright future as a bullpen arm.

"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos

by SaltyDawg on Jul 29, 2025 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neftali Feliz

"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos

by SaltyDawg on Jul 29, 2025 1:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A

He will be the second best pitching(behind Davis) heading into next year. He has everything going for him…except having to pitch in Texas

by tt68 on Jul 29, 2025 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops...

I meant Price

by tt68 on Jul 29, 2025 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

Great pitching prospect, but I don’t think he is worth a straight A yet. Maybe this time next year if things go well.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derek Holland

Look Him Up

"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos

by SaltyDawg on Jul 29, 2025 1:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B right now

But a B+ if he keeps dominating the rest of the year. Dutch is firmly one of the Rangers’ 5 best pitching prospects, having passed Kiker as the top lefty in my mind.

by naropean on Jul 29, 2025 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is this guy?

I’ve never heard of him before

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006 draft pick

out of community college. Signed days before 2007 draft.

Lefty with a mid-90s FB, a good slider and a developing change. GOldstein compared him to John Danks.

by FirebatM3 on Jul 29, 2025 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Thanks!

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Of course i love this guy, and think he’s the number 2 pitcher in the Rangers system so it might be biased, but to be honest the only reason alot of people will be afraid to grade him high is the lack of high regard preseason. He was given 4-5th round money to sign in 07, pitched well in short-season, has continued to improve his stuff and in his first full season he’s just totally dominated A and A+ levels. His stuff is really good for a lefty with velo up to 95 and has been said to touch 97 and a really hard slider. It seems like his stuff has just gotten better and better as the year has gone on and his K rate has increased as well. Maybe im a little to excited about this guy, but right behind Feliz he’s the 2nd best pitcher in the system in my mind

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Holland is my 2nd favorite pitching prospect in the Rangers org as well, which is saying a lot given their depth. He hasn’t skipped a beat moving from the MWL (extreme pitchers league) to the Cal league (extreme hitters league).

by jibs on Aug 1, 2025 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

‘Tweener status keeps me from giving him a higher grade. If he can prove he can play major league CF defense, he’s a solid B.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Guy can flat-out hit. His power was down for a month or so after the wrist injury but it’s back now.

I like prospects with good all-around games—they’re typically underrated in favor of players with one elite skill even though they’re as good overall.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 29, 2025 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re

I think he K’s to much for the not-tremendous power he provides.

But I do love him

by blee1134 on Jul 29, 2025 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

The guy just produces. His one outstanding tool is this guys determination without one tool being below avg.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

It’s hard not to like his control but there are a lot of reasons to worry about a 22 year old who can’t even strike people out in the A levels. That being said, he could be interesting

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nolan Reimold

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jul 29, 2025 4:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B-

No change from last year. His K/BB improved significantly this year, but he’s repeating a league he’s too old for.

Low ceiling of average big league regular, but he’s not far from that ceiling now.

by dkdc on Jul 29, 2025 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree

He is definitely improving but he is definitely getting older.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jul 29, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Will most likely platoon with Luke Scott in LF starting next year.

by Birdfan01 on Jul 31, 2025 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

I’ll admit to not being his biggest fan coming into the season. I didn’t like the lack of power or the poor SB% last season in the Cal League, but there really isn’t anything not to like this year. Good BB/K numbers (not great, but good), good doubles, triples, and HR power, good batting average, and great defense. If he keeps this up, he could be an A- by the end of the season, especially if he gets promoted and continues to do all this.

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by Boxkutter on Jul 29, 2025 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andrew Lambo

I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?

by the pinstripes on Jul 29, 2025 9:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B-

The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.

by mckeeno on Jul 29, 2025 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response

Solid B. Good looking bat at a low level with significant defensive issues.

by mrkupe on Jul 29, 2025 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Daniel Cortes

I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?

by the pinstripes on Jul 29, 2025 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Response

Cortes gets a B. Still projects as a guy with the build to eat lots of innings using good, not great, stuff.

by mrkupe on Jul 29, 2025 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Sounds right. BA said he had the best fastball and curveball in the Royals’ system last year (if I remember right) so I wouldn’t undersell his stuff. Decent strikeout rate and below-average control in his first try at AA, so he’s going to need to do some work to reach the majors before 2010.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's about right.

Great stuff, not so great command.

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by doublestix on Jul 29, 2025 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jhoulys Chacin

I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?

by the pinstripes on Jul 29, 2025 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+

Tempted to give A-.

by wobatus on Jul 29, 2025 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Jul 29, 2025 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

too high, too fast

I'll warm up with you anytime

by ufoboy90 on Jul 29, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ed Cegarra

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 10:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If nobody else wants to talk about him, I will

I really like Cegarra, probably more than I should. He pitched in A ball last year when he was 18 and got knocked around. In retrospect, though, he didn’t do terribly, especially considering his young age; He had a 37:16 K:BB in 58 IP though his ERA was 5.12. This year, at 19, he returned to A ball and for his first 9 starts, decimated the opposition. He struck out 53 and walked only 5 in 54 IP and had an ERA of 2.67, at which point he was promoted to A+ ball. There, he’s done a bit less well. His control is still excellent, but his strikeout numbers have tumbled to a pitiful 33 in 69 IP. I still like him, though. In a few games of his which I’ve followed on-line, he started off excellently but collapsed late as they kept him in too long. He has good stuff and excellent control, and in the one time when he played against age-appropriate hitting, he did excellently. I give him a B-

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by OldProspects on Jul 29, 2025 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamie Romak

The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.

by mckeeno on Jul 29, 2025 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

James McDonald

If he wasn’t behind Kershaw he would get a lot more attention. I give a B+/B, his AO/GO ratio scares me a little.

by goose102977 on Jul 29, 2025 11:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+

The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.

by mckeeno on Jul 29, 2025 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response

Still looks like a B+ to me

by mrkupe on Jul 29, 2025 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sean west

coming back from arm surgery and his numbers are good in high A. read today that he is the only “untouchable” marlin prospect

by znyfan on Jul 29, 2025 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+/A-

It’s pretty close

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by mckeeno on Jul 29, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

I don’t see how his stock has improved significantly. He hasn’t answered any of the defensive questions, and he still looks kinda like Jason Kendall without the power or speed.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

I know catching prospects who can hit are scarce, but people aren’t confident in his catching ability and he doesn’t have a ton of power or patience. He’s a good prospect, but he’s not sniffing A-.

by aap212 on Jul 29, 2025 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

that the defensive questions and lack of power keep him from A- territory, but I think a 23:29 BB:K in 170 AB is a pretty impressive show of patience for a 21-year-old catcher in AAA. Jason Kendall’s career looks pretty attainable. He’s a solid B+ in my eyes.

Even though I don’t agree, I think the case for an A- can be at least argued. If a Grade A prospect is a guy who’s a near lock to be a major leaguer, and has star potential, wouldn’t Anderson fit those qualifications? 21-year-olds who hit well in AAA are as certain to reach the majors as anyone, and a .300/.370/.450 catcher with average defense should sniff an all-star game or two. Who was the last catcher to put up good AAA numbers at 21?

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The lack of upside...

Is what bothers me. He’s a very good prospect because he’s a near-certain major leaguer, but his upside is something like LoDuca or Pierzynski—a solid player, not remotely a star.

by aap212 on Jul 29, 2025 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I can see that.

There’s not a lot of reason to project him for power, and that will hurt his value as a hitter. LoDuca and PIerzynski have six all-star games between the two of them though, and that wouldn’t be bad company to be in. There just aren’t that many catchers with bats that are better than league average. The average catcher in ‘08 has hit about .260/.330/.390.

Fun fact: LoDuca didn’t have a 100 AB season in the majors until he was 29, and Pierzynski’s first was at age 24. It’s pretty unusual for a catcher to hit well in AAA at 21, and I have a hard time putting a definite cap on Anderson’s ceiling because of that.

by DrunkIrish on Jul 29, 2025 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-?

I don’t know what to think

by playingwithfire on Jul 29, 2025 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

Way too early to tell on him.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 29, 2025 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

link to stats

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Marcus%20Lemon&pos=SS&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=502017

by FirebatM3 on Jul 29, 2025 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Though I wouldn’t argue with a B- at this point. He may not stay at short, but I’ve enjoyed seeing him break out offensively this past month. The recent lack of walks is a bit concerning. I still don’t know who I favor between him and Jose Vallejo.

by naropean on Jul 30, 2025 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Id have to think his offensive #’s put him here even if his D may not keep him at Short. His bat would be good enough for a LF or 2b or 3b, especially with the recent power surge. The kid just turned 20, and his plate discipline is exceptional. Id still say I like Vallejo more, but Lemon is right on his heels and likely to pass him if he continues to hit like he has. I definitely this guy has a chance to be an above average hitter at a number of different positions, and once he gets nailed down into being able to play one position well enough, his stock will rise

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neil Walker

He was a B before the season. He’s got solid power numbers (14 HR’s 22 2B’s .434 SLG%) for a 22 year old in AAA, and reports say his defense has been pretty good, but batting .239 with a .274 OBP? How much has his stock dropped?

by jseiner on Jul 29, 2025 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-

Was a B+ last year and has only gotten better. A legit A-, I think.

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by koolkerns101 on Jul 29, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

Had a real good start tonight against Mat Gamel and Huntsville. His biggest issue is he super blocked by Price, Davis, Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Niemann, Sonnanstine, et al. Man they should be looking to trade Sonnanstine and Niemann.

by tt68 on Jul 29, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B+. Personal guess is that he’s a No. 3 pitcher, splitting the difference between those who see him as a frontline candidate and those think he’s more of an back-end innings eater type with a repertoire of average pitches and good control, albeit with pronounced gopherball tendencies. But there’s some upside there and he’s young enough to have a reasonable chance at making good on it, so B+.

I don’t see anything about Hellickson other than his absurd BB/K ratio in A ball this year that screams truly elite pitching prospect to me, with regard to peripheral statistics and scouting reports.

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colby Rasmus

Still an A to me.

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by WayneCampbell08 on Jul 29, 2025 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+

Don’t think a lot has changed from last year, but he is showing enough skills to keep from falling back.

by aCone419 on Jul 29, 2025 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has come close to an .800 OPS

in both June and July. He needs time, but he is showing improvement at the plate. I think that is a fair grade and next year is the biggest year of his pro career to date.

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by SaltyDawg on Jul 30, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

James Simmons

Solid B, maybe B+ if he continues?

by Rupert Pupkin on Jul 29, 2025 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B+

Not a top-end pitcher, but he is as sure a thing to be an average MLB starter (or better) as you will ever find in a prospect. That’s quite valuable.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 29, 2025 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I have to agree with the B+ as I can’t see him not making it to the show, although I don’t think his ceiling is too high once he makes it.

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by Baltimo on Jul 29, 2025 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Simmons is the definition of a solid B grade pitching prospect. Solid chance to contribute, probably nothing special but a useful arm that can eat innings.

I think some will go B- and I can see the case for that (a little too hittable for a Double A finesse pitcher to project well at higher levels, perhaps), but I think he has a decent chance at being able to maintain his peripherals against better competition given some experience.

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re

Just because he’s a control specialist doesn’t mean he’s a finesse guy.

He’s also one of the younger starters in the Texas League.

I’d go B, mayyyyyyybe B+

by blee1134 on Jul 30, 2025 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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Average fastball, fringe-average breaking stuff, above-average changeup, plus-plus command. The statistics back my assertion up - he’s a strike-thrower who’s going to give up his share of hits but compensates with good control and pitching savvy.

Age doesn’t make nearly as much of a difference with pitchers performance-wise as it does with hitters, as has been stated many times before. The areas where it DOES make a difference are projectability and command/control. Simmons isn’t projectable and he’s most likely about as good as he’s going to get as far as control goes. He could improve his breaking pitches . . .but then again, he’s had years to do that already and he hasn’t, so the track record suggests that he most likely will not do so in the future.

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B. Numbers are great for a kid but very far away and with iffy plate discipline.

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

The power at such a young age is amazing and his eye at the plate is getting much better as the season goes along. He can easily become a much better prospect than F-Mart in a 1 1/2.

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by Pelferized on Jul 30, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...but only 15 k's and

7 home runs in 150 at bats is very impressive for a kid that age.

by tt68 on Jul 31, 2025 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to be concerned yet...

If pitchers in his league can’t strike him out much and he’s batting 330 with big power, it’s not like he’s demonstrated that he needs to learn to wait for his pitch. See how he reacts to pitchers that can fool him before we rush to judge his plate discipline.

With that said, his walk totals do force us to keep an eye on it.

by aap212 on Aug 2, 2025 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Easily become a much better prospect than Fernando Martinez?

Don’t buy it. Either you think F-Mart sucks or that this guy is a generational talent.

by mrkupe on Aug 4, 2025 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B. Grade A arm with a C+ idea of what to do with it right now. Almost certainly a reliever in the future which makes grading him a little difficult . . .maybe he’d tighten his command out of the pen?

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

I think he does have the potential for an A but I’d take him being a krod as a reliever over a mediocre starter.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm liking him more

I think I agree with you on the B, though I could be convinced about a B+. His numbers are actually pretty comparable to Jeffress’, though I think Jeffress is still better. Rodriguez is one year older, and is somehow striking out even more people ( just under 13 per 9 innings), with also mediocre control. This may be disturbing, but his control is actually improving. Two years ago, he walked more than a batter per inning. Last year, he cut that down dramatically to 5.7/9IP. His improvement hasn’t been as dramatic this year, but for Rodriguez, 5 BB/9 IP does represent progress. And that’s with his K rate going up significantly. His control certainly isn’t good, but it’s almost borderline passable. Considering it really wasn’t two years ago, I’m fairly confident.

Except for one thing: his AA stint. He continued striking people out there, but his control simply disappeared. That he has more or less returned to sanity since his return to A+ is slightly encouraging, but his inability to do anything in AA is still mystifying. Which is a very long way of reiterating what I said at first which is I agree with you on the B

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by OldProspects on Aug 1, 2025 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Hmm . . .B+ I think. Looks like a future very good player to me but maybe not in the true star range. Have to see just how much power he shows in the future, and that might depend on how his body matures.

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 30, 2025 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

He looks like a solid hitter; reasonable power, doesn’t strike out too much, draws an okay number of walks. He’s fast, but not as fast as he used to be and his SB totals dropped significantly this year. Could be a very good outfielder

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B+ . . .which is a substantial downgrade from a guy that I adored 2 years ago. Good post-hype sleeper for next year, when he should be sufficiently recovered from injury and in position to make a run for somebody’s third base job.

by mrkupe on Jul 30, 2025 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-

Elite, I put A- only because he hasn’t shown what he can do yet at a higher level.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 30, 2025 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Took the words out of my proverbial mouth.

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by BudLight on Jul 30, 2025 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

Needs to get the flyball rate down. Great increase in velocity.

by colerocks on Jul 30, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gio Gonzalez - LHP - Oak

Got off to a rocky start. Picked it up and has looked good. Ks still there, ERA a bit high but seems to be a B+ to me.

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by Syphon on Jul 30, 2025 3:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what's interesting?

His numbers this year are almost identical to what they were 2 years ago. His strikeout rate and his walk rate are identical. The only difference is that his HR rate has improved. I think I agree with the B+ but I don’t really understand what’s going on with him (in contrast to with the other players, where of course I know exactly what will happen)

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C

A K/9 below 6 as a 20 year old in A ball who also gives up too many home runs. Very good control, and has gotten a lot of ground balls this year, but still at best a decent prospect

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-/C+

Right on that cusp there. Still-developing stuff, and his sinker has good life. Never going to be the type to strike out a ton of guys, but he’s pitched to weak contact well.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg Halman

B-? Crazy talent but WAY too many k’s.

by jvidri9 on Jul 30, 2025 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree

His K rate at this pace will keep him from being a consistent hitter in the MLB. He cannot be rushed anymore so that he can have the chance to work on his swing and plate discipline. If rushed, will look something like a lesser Corey Patterson.

by tdot mariner fan on Jul 30, 2025 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Valaika, IF, Reds

Started strong, struggled after promotion, but has now rebounded after that initial struggling

by biggentleben on Jul 30, 2025 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B/B-

The bat looks solid, I could see a .270/.340/.450 line from him, which at SS isn’t too bad at all. Playing half his games in Cincy…the SLG could easily rise to .470 or better.

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by gatling on Jul 30, 2025 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

To answer my own, I’d rate him a solid B as a middle infielder. I think his value is obviously higher at SS, but I believe defensively that he will ultimately end up at 2B

by biggentleben on Jul 30, 2025 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Osterbrock, LHP, Twins

Had a chance to see this guy recently live. He has dynamite stuff, if he is only in low A. He’s 21, got a nice 6’5 frame, and he’s been putting up numbers worthy of attention in any league - 40 1/3 innings, 3.12 ERA, 0.94 whip, and a 5/52 bb/k ratio…

I’m unclear where he’d stand. Anyone else got a good estimate?

by biggentleben on Jul 30, 2025 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Trumbo

I’m kind of surprised no one had brought his name up yet.

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by The Congo Hammer on Jul 30, 2025 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C+

Showed a lot of power for the first time as a 22 year old in A+. Doesn’t walk. If his power holds up in AA, then he could be a poor man’s Chris Carter

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

F

Because he’s a Communist.

Wait, no. Wrong Trumbo.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2025 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahah

Wow is that an obscure reference. Full points for that one

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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I’m split between B/B+ . . .awesome raw stuff with multiple good pitches. Much better pitcher than his ERA would indicate. Could stand to walk a few less guys and you do worry a bit that maybe he could end up being the type of guy who should be better than he is, but eh, I think his weaknesses are mostly derived from his youth.

Going over it now, I think he’s a B+. One of the better arms in the minors.

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm trying to decide between a B+ and an A-

Logically I agree with you that he’s still just a B+. But on the other hand ,you have a terrifically talented pitcher who’s striking upwards of 12 batters per 9 innings with decent control. How much better can you get?

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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The control numbers aren’t very hot . . .44 in 87 innings last year, and 32 in 68 innings this year. If you pushed him too hard I suspect he’d struggle right now, no matter how good his stuff is.

Plus, obviously . . .the kid has a 4.63 ERA for a reason. I think he’s probably better than that, but I think I’d want to see him start to put everything together before buying in too much.

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

And I agree, but I suspect that by the end of next year, an A- grade would have looked awfully smart.

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by OldProspects on Aug 1, 2025 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Maybe. But it could look pretty dumb too.

by mrkupe on Aug 4, 2025 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Lotzkar

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by OldProspects on Jul 31, 2025 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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Love him . . .but still needs more innings to see what he’s really got. One of my top breakout candidates for next year. Looks like a B

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B+? He started out good in the Cal League and has only gotten better . . .look at those post-ASB stats!

On the other hand, his stuff rests much more solidly in the “good” rather than the “great” range. It’s not hard to see him becoming a #3 starter, but I’m still unconvinced as to why I should expect more than that.

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that what people were saying about Brett Anderson last year?

I think Alderson is fringing into A- territory, although a B+ wouldn’t be outrageous.

The Giants have some really nice young pitching—now if they could only draft a hitter who knows what the term “walk” means.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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2007 Anderson grades out better than 2008 Alderson. And the only people who were saying Anderson had a ceiling of #3 starter were those who were obsessed with the velocity of his fastball. Just about everything else about the guy grades out as plus if not better. That is not the case with Alderson.

by mrkupe on Jul 31, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zach McAllister

I say a B would be good.

by Bravesin07 on Jul 31, 2025 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

um

you said that once already….in this thread! :p

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by biggentleben on Jul 31, 2025 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

He’s an interesting pitcher. Are you concerned that his strikeouts have dropped so much since making A+? His control is good enough that I’m not TOO concerned, but I might be tempted to go for a B-

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

Maybe it’s just me, but I see a lot of room for failure for Mills.

I mean, he’s 22 and at high A, and he still strikes out a whole lot. there’s a real shot at 25-30 HR pop at the most, but i don’t see an OBP climbing over .350. I also see a large chance that he doesn’t see the bigs.

by METSMETSMETS on Aug 1, 2025 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Solid B I guess. There’s nothing really to complain about here, but he hasn’t exactly “MASHED!” like some were suggesting he would. For a guy who is pretty much all bat, the bat is pretty good but not great.

by mrkupe on Aug 1, 2025 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not sure they are talking about the same guy.

The Beau Mills in the Indians organization is hitting 289/369/499/868 and is still 21 until later this month. As good as they are, those numbers don’t tell the whole story. He had a terrible April and his OPS has been over 900 since. He also leads the league in RBIs although he has batted 2nd most of the year. His numbers with men on base and scoring position are exceptional. It is just his 1st full year in the minors and he does strike out more than desireable but I think I would go A-/B+ depending how you look at his defense.

by sdtribefan on Aug 1, 2025 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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I feel like 200 percent more confident in Grade B now that sdtribefan suggested A-/B+.

by mrkupe on Aug 1, 2025 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really admire a man with confidence!

It is even more amazing when it is entirely unjustified.

by sdtribefan on Aug 2, 2025 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that the nature of confidence?

More seriously, I like Mills. I think he’s a good prospect and I can understand the argument for a B+, but I agree with mrkupe about the B. He’s a good hitter, but I don’t see the sort of power you’re hoping for from a big league 1B. You’re right that he’s been hitting better since April, but his walk rate has declined every single month, and his strike-out rate has gone up since the start of the year. His power has picked up, but his real problem in April was batting average, which seems to be a function more of an unusually low BABIP than any serious improvement over the past few months. I don’t know about his numbers with men on base and I’m not sure how much that means, but I do think he has a reasonable chance to be a Casey Kotchman-type hitter and maybe significantly better

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confidence or ?

Seriously, OldProspects. I really don’t disagree with what you say but I would be more concerned if his numbers came from the California League rather than Carolina. I certainly agree his walk rate is down and strikeouts are up. Most of the other hitting numbers are up as well and his OPS is really solid all year. I think he is 2nd in the league in HRs as well as #1 in RBIs. I based my rating largely on John’s rating of Mills over the winter. Still, he has the big step to AA to go but his numbers aren’t bad for a 21YO in A+.

by sdtribefan on Aug 4, 2025 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, techincally

Mills is 2nd in homers in his league and 2nd in RBIs, but he’s also 4th in ABs. Jamie Romak has only 1 more homer than him, but it took him 131 less ABs to get that. Eric Campbell has one less homer than Mills, but also 177 less ABs. If you use the HR/Air stat, then Mills is tenth in the league - good, but not terrific for a 21 year old 1B prospect in A+ ball. His Slugging percentage is 6th in the league, and his OBP is 13th. His stats certainly aren’t bad in any sense of the word, but they’re not A- good, and even B+ is a bit of a reach.

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by OldProspects on Aug 6, 2025 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Wieters

Is there such a thing as A+?

by dkdc on Aug 1, 2025 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A little high.

He’s not the best prospect ever. He’s certainly as much an A as you can get though.

by DrunkIrish on Aug 1, 2025 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A

but did he get demoted? Isn’t the Eastern League a AA league?

Another question, why hasn’t he been in a Futures game?

by METSMETSMETS on Aug 1, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The Carolina League is High-A.

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by Tyler on Aug 1, 2025 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's joking

about getting an A+ grade, not being in A+ level.

I want a job of explaining other people’s jokes

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

An accompanying question:

Does the fact that the Giants haven’t moved him to A+ yet make you want to give him a lower grade?

by DrunkIrish on Aug 1, 2025 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was looking at him the other day...

And wondered why they hadn’t moved him up. But it seems from the scouting reports he needs work on his secondary stuff, so they may have him in A ball to keep the pressure off.

B+ On the fastball and performance. If he gets promoted and does well this would probably move to an A-.

by tt68 on Aug 1, 2025 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they’re just not in a hurry to move him up. They don’t need him right away and want him to take his time to develop. On the other hand, if Augusta missed the playoffs (they’re currently leading the 2nd half race) he could end up in San Jose for the Cal League playoffs as the Little Giants won the first half division title.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 7, 2025 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Justin Ruggiano

I expect a few varying opinions..

by METSMETSMETS on Aug 1, 2025 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B

Could be a solid major league outfielder. He has 20 HR power, can steal 20 bases, walks a solid amount of times, and if that batting average holds in the majors then he could be an above average hitter. There are reasons for concern, though: he strikes out a lot and the reason his batting average is so high is his BABIP is regularly over .400. He could just be an unusual player, though. I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten a chance yet in the majors to see what he can do, but my guess is he will be an average to an above average major league outfielder

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

I think what you cited is his absolute upside. A B prospect has to be more likely to be a full-time starter, I think.

by aap212 on Aug 3, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

B-/C+ is appropriate. He’s a very useful player, but might K too much to be a regular.

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by Tyler on Aug 3, 2025 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by doublestix on Aug 4, 2025 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Fourth / platoon outfielder. Upside is Matt Murton. Actually, pretty much is the same player as Matt Murton already. Also, Durham tends to inflate power stats for righties.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2025 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C+

Don’t see much more than a 3rd OF on a lower tier team or a 4th OF/platoon on a good team.

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by doublestix on Aug 4, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-

Could be very good, but will probably be only a decent starter

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hector Rondon

I am curious if he is on many posters radar.

by sdtribefan on Aug 1, 2025 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went back and forth on picking him up in my league

and waited a bit too long. He’s an interesting prospect, but I’m not entirely convinced how good he is going to be. B?

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

His stats are excellent, but I want to see what he does in A+ and especially AA

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the grade

But his stats arent just “nice” - theyre SICK.

Totally dominant. Reminds me of Kershaw’s stop in the Midwest League. Kershaw had better rates for most everything, but Duffy is walking two less men per 9 than Kershaw did. Obviously, Kershaw was a much better prospect with much better stuff and Im not saying Duffy is now or is ever going to be anything like him - I just want to illustrate how dominant Duffy has been and how much it has flown under the radar:

H/9
Duffy - 7.04
Kers - 6.66

HR/9
Duffy - 0.57
Kers - 0.46

BB/9
Duffy - 2.44
Kers - 4.62

K/9
Duffy - 11.06
Kers - 12.39

They both had crazy good short season stops in their first years - and in fact, Duffy had a higher K rate than Kershaw!

Duffy (Ariz Royals/Age 18): 37.1 IP, 24 H, 0 HR, 17 BB, 63 K
Kershaw (GCL Dodgers/Age 18): 37 IP. 28 H, 0 HR, 5 BB, 54 K

You know… I could make the case for B+. I think Id have to hear scouts really question his stuff to dissuade me. If he maintains near this level of performance at AA I think we’re looking at one of the best pitching prospects in baseball this time next year.

by alskor on Aug 10, 2025 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but Kershaw not only has much better stuff

but at the end of that year, at age 19, he also showed he could survive AA. Not do brilliantly, granted, but survive. Those two factors made him considered an elite prospect, I think.

I see your argument about a B+, but I feel like there are a number of pitchers who do terrifically in A ball, and it's difficult to differentiate between them until they get to higher levels. For example, this year: Nick Barnese (granted at A- ball), had 10.72 K/9, 3.5 BB/9, 0 HR/9, and 7.01 H/9. Arguably a little less impressive than Duffy's or Kershaw's stats, but certainly in that same league. Ed Cegarra - 8.83 K/9 but a ludicrous 0.83 BB/9 (for a K/BB over 10), 0.67 HR/9 and a 7.67 H/9.

I’m not arguing that any of these prospects aren’t good - I think they all have a hell of a lot of potential actually. But the likelihood of even one of those prospects being in Kershaw’s league is pretty slim, and we won’t have a solid grasp of how good they really are until we seem them face tougher competition.

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by OldProspects on Aug 10, 2025 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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B+ . . .nice stuff, good numbers across the board, nothing to complain about at this point. Has a solid chance to be in the conversation as one of the top couple of pitching prospects in the game by this time next year.

by mrkupe on Aug 4, 2025 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

If his fastball jumps a couple ticks like scouts expect it to, he could be a great prospect in a year or two. He’s basically 87-93 now, with the 92 and 93 coming with two strikes when he pumps it up for a strikeout.

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by doublestix on Aug 4, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Julio Teheran

he just pitched again last night. What grade might he garner in the book?

by colerocks on Aug 3, 2025 10:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What was his grade last year?

I’d say the same so long the scouting reports are similar. He’s still only like 17 right?

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by doublestix on Aug 4, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still all hype at this point

Only 9 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 9 K. Not enough info. He’d still remain a C+ to me until he proves more.

by Jay212033 on Aug 5, 2025 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck Lofgren

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Instead of a letter grade...

Can you just say Sigh. I think that’s about how everyone who’s followed him feels, for one reason or another.

by aap212 on Aug 3, 2025 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

He’s still 22 years old, a lefty with very good stuff, who’s striking out his share of people at AA. Obviously his control leaves quite a bit to be desired (more than 5 walks per 9IP), but only last year his control was decent, and the year before even good. It doesn’t seem like he’s entirely a lost case just yet. I think I’d give him a B: he has a chance to be excellent, will more likely be good, through probably it won’t work out.

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by OldProspects on Aug 3, 2025 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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I can’t really see much room for anything other than C+ at this point, to be honest, and I really liked the kid a few years ago.

His raw stuff has rarely been as good as advertised, he doesn’t have true out pitches, and his numbers are pretty much awful. He strikes out a decent number of guys but is also walking a ton of them as well, and he’s repeating the league. Home run rate has gone up as compared to last year, another bad sign.

He’s young enough to not be considered a total lost cause, but he’s also headed in the wrong rather than the right direction. Hell, he’s got a 5.50 ERA!

You’re going to have to convince me why Lofgren is going to be any more than a bullpen arm if he even makes the majors. Maybe he just can’t gel with the ballpark/coaching in Akron and needs a demotion or even a promotion to get out of a rut? I don’t know.

by mrkupe on Aug 4, 2025 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why sigh

Your description of him, the variability and unpredictability-even for a pitching prospect-is why sigh.

If I had to give him a letter grade, B-.

by aap212 on Aug 4, 2025 2:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds real reasonable to me!

He is definitely young enough to improve and he certainly has the arm but there are warning signs even though he has bounced back somewhat in relief.

by sdtribefan on Aug 4, 2025 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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I think he’s a B. Numbers are quite good for a guy who was considered pretty raw coming into this year. Throws tons of strikes for a guy with a power fastball. Still not sure where he’s going to slot in best but obviously performance is trending up.

by mrkupe on Aug 4, 2025 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+

I like how his K rate has gone up in AA. I think he has a solid chance to be a very good pitcher

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by OldProspects on Aug 4, 2025 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michel Inoa RHP A's

What do you give a guy who hasn’t thrown a pro pitch?

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by vignette17 on Aug 4, 2025 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Inc.

I think it’s pretty tough to grade a guy purely off scouting reports, especially at such a young age. I doubt anybody here has actually seen him in pitch in person, I know I have never seen him throw a pitch so with no visual evidence and no statistical evidence I wouldn’t really want to slap a grade on Inoa.

by DiegoAsFan on Aug 4, 2025 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Number 100

Inoa seems like the kind of guy you rank number 100 on a top 100 prospect list. It seems clear he’s one of the best prospects in baseball from the reports we’ve all heard, but he needs to play Stateside to be ranked really high.

As for a letter grade, pull one out of your nether regions. Any trajectory is possible at this point. The upside is just extremely high.

by aap212 on Aug 4, 2025 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give him an X!

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by BudLight on Aug 4, 2025 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Julio Borbon

Holding his own offensively in AA, playing stellar defense and stealing a lot of bases.
B in my book.

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by BudLight on Aug 4, 2025 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh

I’d say B-. Speed guys who are supposed to be top of the order hitters that don’t take a lot of walks…well I’m just not a fan of those type.

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by doublestix on Aug 4, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B

I think he makes up for his lack of walks with the positives of contact hitting for avg, excellent defense at CF, excellent baserunning with steals, and (from what I’ve heard) strong make-up, and raw (though largely untranslated) power. If we look at him as a guy who hits 9th in the lineup as opposed to leading off, which is how I imagine he’ll break in to the Rangers lineup at some point next year, then I think he warrants a solid B right now. With walks and lead-off capability, a B+.

I wouldn’t mind if he turned out to be Juan Pierre. He’s a lot better than Ramon Nivar.

by naropean on Aug 5, 2025 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sean Doolittle

I say B-/C+

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by hero66 on Aug 6, 2025 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A tick higher

A solid B- sounds about right to me.

by aap212 on Aug 6, 2025 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andrew McCutchen, OF, Pirates

I’d say B/B+ ... good walk rate, but hasn’t shown much power since April.

by woobie on Aug 7, 2025 1:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

21 in AAA

With a significantly above-average strike-zone judgement. A super-solid K/BB ratio. He doesn’t have power yet and his base running needs work. But he plays above-average defense. I’d say he’s a rock solid B+.

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by Tyler on Aug 7, 2025 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B+ sounds good

He’s been over-hyped in many circles, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns into a prime Marquis Grissom type player—and that’s a very good player.

by aap212 on Aug 7, 2025 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J.P Arencibia

I think I’d give him a B but not far from B+

Hey fish, leave those kids alone!

by The Congo Hammer on Aug 9, 2025 8:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Triunfel

B+. He may be in a hitter-friendly Cal-League but he is still showing some HR power and a lot of speed, people seem to be down on him just because of the attitude issues but I still think he’s a fine prospect.

Hey fish, leave those kids alone!

by The Congo Hammer on Aug 9, 2025 8:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Montero, C, A (NYY)

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by bobbymcnally on Aug 11, 2025 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dellin Betances, RHP, A (NYY)

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