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Which Team Do You Think Had The Best Draft?

I know that this post is a bit pre-mature, but with most of the early round picks signed, or at least expected to, I thought that doing a poll would be interesting. Mark Appel's case is a bit unique, but it's hard to imagine him thinking that he could get more money in next year's draft when he would be senior, so I think it's fair to assume that he will sign. I hate doing this, but I need more words, so just ignore this bit and go to the poll o o o o o o o oo o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
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Which team do you think had the strongest 2012 draft?

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I think Houston

They did a good job of getting Correa and McCullers. I liked the Twins early picks, too - they got the best talent in Buxton and I liked the Berrios pick. Pirates getting Appel is great, considering how little draft budget they had.

by Gunnarthor on Jun 27, 2025 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I recognize my potential homerism here

But the Padres got three potential TOR starters and then built from there. Unlike other clubs, they didn’t piss away six of their top 10 picks on guys who will become fan favorites during their third seasons in the Texas/Southern/Eastern League, and they were still drafting and signing guys with at least one above-average tool deep into the mid-30s.

by realitypolice on Jun 27, 2025 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I loved San Diego's draft

Well, at least the top of it. Don;t know much beyond the top guys.

by MjwW on Jun 27, 2025 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top 3

1: Pittsburgh: Mark Appel-RHP, Barrett Barnes-OF, Wyatt Mathisen-C, Walker Buehler-RHP
-This is probably going to surprise people but I have the Pirates at number one. They only had one extra first round pick so they didn’t get as much talent as some other teams. But I absolutely love that they quite possibly got the best RHP in this draft with the 8th overall pick. Now they may not sign him but they’ll get the 9th pick next year because of it and a bigger bonus pool. I love that they didn’t take a lesser player like Heaney or Dahl just to get a signable guy.
I also like Barnes as an outfielder with speed and power, Mathiesen as a catcher with a solid bat and potential behind the plate. If they can sign Buehler to go with Adrian Simpson, they’ll have a pair of nice projectable RHPs in their system too.
Not signing Appel or Buehler will bump this draft down but getting Appel signed nets Pittsburgh a helluva prospect at 8th overall. Signing Buehler nets them a good prospect and the 9th overall pick next year. I think the Pirates played the draft well. Much better than my Cardinals who just dished out 1.6 million to James Ramsey…ugh. Strategy is as important as numerous picks to me. That’s why Pitt is number one.

2: Toronto: Marcus Stroman-RHP, DJ Davis-OF, Matt Smoral-LHP, Anthony Alford-OF
-No team picked up more potential starters than the Blue Jays. Toronto loaded up on raw, high ceiling high schoolers and sprinkled in a very good college pitcher in Stroman. Davis, Smoral, Alford, Nay, Gonzales, and DeJong could all wind up either in the every day batting order or in the rotation. Stroman could start or be a shut down closer. My concern is the level of rawness this class has. Reminds me of the 2007 Blue Jays draft which featured Justin Jackson, Eric Eiland, John Tolisano, and Kevin Ahrens. 5 years later that draft yielded little help from the high school ranks for Toronto.

3: Houston: Carlos Correra-SS, Lance McCullers Jr-RHP, Rio Ruiz-3B,
-Jeff Luhnow, known more for going after college guys, came away with 3 very good high school prospects. Correra has the ability to become one of the best SS in baseball. McCullers at least has a closer’s profile if he can’t stick in the rotation. Ruiz has very good potential as well. Outside of these three, though, the Astros draft featured a lot of high floor, low ceiling college players that Luhnow loves. I’m not sure Fontana sticks at SS and Rodgers may not have enough stuff to be a big league starter. Not getting Virant signed hurts their draft.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 27, 2025 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Fontana was one of the better defensive SSs in college last season.

Don’t know why you would think that he couldn’t stick there.

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by bone31crusher on Jun 27, 2025 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Average tools

Average arm and range. He can make the plays around him but you could see in the postseason that he may not be a great fit at short. Then again another Gator SS didn’t have the best tools and he became a pretty solid major league SS. Of course I’m talking about David Eckstein.

I also wasn’t that impressed with his bat.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 27, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You prefer the players the Pirates got to what the Astros got? For real?

If you are just saying you think the Pirates did better relative to the picks they had, that is a different question than the OP’s I think.

by auclairkeithbc on Jun 27, 2025 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Phillips?

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by OremLK on Jun 27, 2025 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Although not especially likely

it’s at least possible that the Pirates could sign Appel and Buehler. The Bucs have saved about 600K on their draft pool to this point. They could also spend an extra $330K without giving up a pick (although they’d have to pay the tax). This means that if they get Appel for even close to slot which isn’t absurd since Devin Marrero is the highest draft pick to go overslot so far, then Pittsburgh could actually offer Buehler something close to the $1M signing bonus that he reportedly is looking for.

by KentuckyPirate on Jun 27, 2025 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houston had the best draft imo.

But I’m going to be a homer here and say the Indians. I think they played the system very well, and with no extra picks, I think they maximized every pick basically.

by JP_Frost on Jun 27, 2025 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Houston killed it no doubt.

Not only with the big 3 (Correa, McC, Rio!) but with Fontana (underrated IMO) and Phillips. Phillips JUST turned 18 and was starting to show a lot more than he did previously. I like their college Pitchers too.

San Diego did very, very well as well. Fried looks like he could become Kershaw (still a lONG ways a way from that..) and they got 2 other guys who could be very good as well.

I liked the Jays draft (as always) they went for high upside HS and picked who they wanted.

by TexanStro on Jun 27, 2025 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a combination

They got arguably the best pitcher in the draft at 8th overall, they have a backup plan in Walker Buehler, they also came away with two strong hitting prospects in Barnes and Mathisen

As I said, I give the Pirates credit for having a good strategy for this draft. However, they got a tremendous talent in Appel to go with that strategy.

Again, Toronto and Houston got more talent, but Pittsburgh did very well with the picks they had.

I like to look at more than just the amount of early round picks a team has to gauge how well a team did in the draft. It’s really no fun at all to point to a team like Toronto with 4-5 first round picks and say they did well. Of course they did well. They should have done well. They should have gotten 4-5 of the top 100 players in the draft.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 27, 2025 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

That was supposed to be a reply to auclairkeithbc in the string I had going.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 27, 2025 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going off consensus of mocks

The Astros drafted 9 players in most of mocks top 100-125. And They Have signed 6 of them. So I think they took the BPA whenever it made sense to do so.

The top 5 picks for the Astros were particularly good. Correa was the perfect 1.1 representing talent and value. After that the next 4 picks represented either BPA or top 50 ranked 2012 draft eligible players.

I could not be happier with the draft. The Astros laid the template for the new draft.

My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.

by Shamus on Jun 27, 2025 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

they laid the template for teams with 1:1...

not many other slots where you can go arguably BPA for a ton under slot…nowhere else in the draft does a team have that leverage b/c the slot numbers fall so fast after 1

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by billybeingbilly on Jun 27, 2025 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to parrot everyone else

But you have to go with the ‘Stros here. Saving $2M on Correa over Buxton was genius. I have a feeling this will start a trend where most years the top pick will not get the top bonus. Obviously, the occassional Strasburg/Harper year will occur, but most often I think the top team will have 2-5 guys they like comparatively, and take whoever is willing to give them the most room to be aggressive later. I think it’s a great strategy.

by dnc on Jun 27, 2025 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Question....

How many here had Correa as the #1 player?

by mr. maniac on Jun 27, 2025 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I actually think

Appel, Gausman, Correa, and Buxton are all very close. Almost too close to call (possibly all within 10 slots in the top 100). I can see the argument for Zimmer and Zunino being in there as well although I don’t really agree.

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by OremLK on Jun 28, 2025 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had him at 4

Behind Buxton, Appel, and Gausman

by cookiedabookie on Jun 27, 2025 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not I

I had him #2 behind Buxton. Felt fairly confident that one of the two would fall to the M’s. Was very disappointed when that didn’t happen.

by dnc on Jun 27, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had him @ #1

With Buxton/Appel sort of close.

by auclairkeithbc on Jun 28, 2025 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

So this pretty much confirms my thoughts...

Are we so eager to pronounce that the Astros has a great draft when, with the #1 pick, they didn’t take the best player? Given the huge dropoff in terms of value from the #1 pick (and normally #1 talent, except for a few exceptions) and the fact that late first round picks are not close in value to the #1 pick, are we so sure the Astros nailed the draft?

A few years from now, Buxton could be the #1 prospect, Correa could be solid, and one of two of the overslot guys (Ruiz, McCullers, etc..) could be solid/okay. If that is the case, I think many would criticize the Astros for not taking Buxton.

Of course, this doesn’t really matter if the Astros thought Correa was #1. But from the responses, most of you didn’t.

by mr. maniac on Jun 28, 2025 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But I don’t think there was a huge difference in value between the top 4-6 players in this draft, so if one allows you to add significantly better talent at later points in the draft because he signs for less, that is a good thing. Right now, I’d rather have Correa/McCullers/Ruiz than Buxton and one of McCullers/Ruiz or just Appel.

by cookiedabookie on Jun 28, 2025 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct.

But if you think they didn’t take the better player, and the better player turns out to be much better, you have to be disappointed.

Just food for thought.

by mr. maniac on Jun 28, 2025 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So your argument?

Is that if player X turns out to be better than it was a bad draft? That’s a valid point, and in 3-4 years or more we might be able to make that judgment. But you can say the same thing every single year, but the same argument can be made that if Buxton burns out and Correa is the best player the astros had the best draft regardless of the rest of the players.

When we do these immediate after-draft reviews we are judging it based on the information we have in hand. In this case, it appears that Houston is walking away with better players than their draft position at multiple spots.

by ADLC on Jun 28, 2025 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you are missing my point.

I’m not bringing up hindsight. I have done draft studies before, and the difference between the #1 pick and the #2 pick is around 3 WAR.

How would it feel, several years from now, to know your team had the top pick but didn’t take the best player, and it turns out the best player IS the best player?

I’m just trying to see the thought behind ranking them as a great draft when they didn’t take the top guy (if your opinion is that Correa was not the top guy).

Is there haul of prospects still nice if you don’t have Correa #1? Sure. McCullers, Ruiz, etc.. are nice extra guys. It still is hard to call the draft “great” or the best if they didn’t take the top talent.

by mr. maniac on Jun 28, 2025 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the Rays have a bad draft the year they took Beckham #1?

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by King Billy Royal on Jun 28, 2025 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

Some certainly thought Beckham was the best, others thought Alvarez, and others thought Posey.

by mr. maniac on Jun 28, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who was your #1

To me Correa was a good as anyone. I can say that at draft time, I wanted them to get Correa. So I reckon that makes Correa #1 for me.

My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.

by Shamus on Jun 28, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you should have no problem rating there draft best.

My point is that it is hard to rate a team as having the best draft when they had the top pick but didn’t take the best player.

by mr. maniac on Jun 28, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

#1 for me

by CaptainCanuck on Jun 28, 2025 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I did

The kid just hits and hits, has speed and power, and he’ll stay in the infield. I’ve seen Tulo comps, which of course are optimistic, but I think Correa becoming something like Ryan Zimmerman or Tulo is more likely than Buxton becoming an all-star. I’ll take an all-star SS or 3B over an all-star OF.

by rlwhite on Jun 28, 2025 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pirates

by Noah McKinnie Braun on Jun 28, 2025 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

oops

notice how i didn’t actually type anything, my bad.

Was going to say that if the Pirates can sign Appel then they have to be considered a top-3 draft IMO

by Noah McKinnie Braun on Jun 28, 2025 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Top 10 drafts. In rough order.

Just by overall talent, not giving extra points for talent relative to draft order. (Which is a perfectly valid way to look at it as well.)

HOU
TOR
SD
PIT
MIN
STL
CHC
SEA
BAL
BOS

by abbreviatedman on Jun 28, 2025 12:23 PM EDT via Android app reply actions  


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