MiLB 4/24
by sethbeno on Apr 24, 2025 11:23 AM EDT
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PrintThis should be an exciting day with several top arms going. Dylan Bundy vs Matt Barnes is the early favorite to be the top duel (definitely the most anticipated) and my favorite pitching prospect (Wheeler) looks to keep it rolling. As always, add any omissions and feel free to correct any errors.
AAA: Shelby Miller, Mike Montgomery, Jordan Lyles
AA: Zach Wheeler, Danny Hultzen, Trevor Rosenthal, Sonny Gray
A+: Carlos Martinez, Jameson Taillon
A: Dylan Bundy, Matt Barnes, Alex Meyer
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Doing it AGAIN!
Thru 4 Innings;
0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 SO
ERA now 1.71
by Jersey Transplant on Apr 24, 2025 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Tropeano on the hill today
Hoping to see continued dominance.
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by DrewRusse on Apr 24, 2025 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Pulled after 2 IP
Not sure why… he gave up 3 R / 2 ER, but struck out 5 and walked only 1.
Injury? Pending promotion? Manager has itchy trigger finger?
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by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm told he was pulled because of high pitch count in 2nd inning
Just as a precaution I guess
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by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple of dbacks
Pat Corbin & Anthony Meo.
by dbacks25 on Apr 24, 2025 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Couple of dbags
Andrew Brackman, Alex Cobb, Barrett Loux
by sourstuff on Apr 24, 2025 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonifacio
3-4, 2 doubles
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by doublestix on Apr 24, 2025 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
and the 11:12
BB:K ratio is pretty impressive. Even if it’s in Low-A.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 24, 2025 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Montgomery
7 ip, 7 h, 3 r, 1 bb, 6 k
95 pitches
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by doublestix on Apr 24, 2025 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Lansing Lugnuts; Aaron Sanchez & Nicolino pitched today
Sanchez
3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 7 SO (Impressive!)
Nicolino
3 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 SO
by Jersey Transplant on Apr 24, 2025 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
Sanchez for season
12 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 8 BB, 17 SO
Nicolino
12 IP, 10 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 13 SO
Each has pitched 3 innings per start.
- All info based on my math being accurate & MiLB.com stats being accurate
by Jersey Transplant on Apr 24, 2025 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
still not sure how much we should be taking from these numbers
by mrkupe on Apr 24, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez have a shot at rotation?
Duh, no doy.
by Mike Kaluk on Apr 24, 2025 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
In a few years...
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by JD Sussman on Apr 24, 2025 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pat Corbin
7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 5 K
Play ball!
by tmannino on Apr 24, 2025 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
I like this kid a lot
Really impressive stuff, I think #3 starter is a very reasonable outcome for him
by kyuss94 on Apr 24, 2025 4:03 PM EDT via Android app up reply actions
not trying to piss on the corbin parade
But I think #3 is an absolute ceiling projection…
by St.Steve on Apr 24, 2025 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Zack Lutz
recalled today by the Mets…marginal prospect
Play ball!
by tmannino on Apr 24, 2025 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
Shelby Miller vs Iowa
5 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 60/91 strikes.
by rdf8585 on Apr 24, 2025 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
Strikeouts
Brett Jackson twice, Dave Sappelt, Luis Valbuena, Wellington Castillo, Travis Wood
by sourstuff on Apr 24, 2025 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah pretty good outing
Though I’d rather see him 6+ innings out of 91 pitches rather than 5.
by rdf8585 on Apr 24, 2025 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't have his best stuff today. It was good to see him battle and do well
He’ll have better days for sure
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by JD Sussman on Apr 24, 2025 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
do you know how hard he was throwing?
It seemed like there was a report in ST about his velocity being off a little… also a report that he changed his workout regime and had lost quite a bit of weight
by rdf8585 on Apr 24, 2025 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
watched hte game without velo
Sorry, I don’t.
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by JD Sussman on Apr 24, 2025 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Talked to a guy at the game
Sitting 91-93, which is still down a little bit. Curve was supposedly sharp, though.
by RynoRooter on Apr 25, 2025 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting to think
Drafted as a very raw but very high upside power arm (do you guys remember how many people thought he was going to completely bust back in the day?) . . .seems to be taking the Adam Wainwright route.
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Mateo
1-3, HR, 2 walks
switch hitting 2B.
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by doublestix on Apr 24, 2025 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
Hultzen
5.2IP, 2H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 5K
2.08 ERA on the year.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Obviously the stats are very strong
But I’m surprised at how many he has walked.
by kyuss94 on Apr 24, 2025 4:04 PM EDT via Android app up reply actions
agree
something to watch, maybe some jitters/being a bit gun shy jumping into pro ball?
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
We should keep in mind though that he was placed aggressively in AA to begin his professional career. I would bet we’d see much prettier control numbers if he were placed in AA, Barnes-style. Everything else Hultzen’s doing looks great.
by PissedMick on Apr 24, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He's surprised me the other direction as well
Not just with his K rates, but especially his ability to get swings and misses, as illustrated here.
I thought his command would be better, but I surely did not expect Hultzen to have the lowest contact rate in Double A. Honestly, I think I’ll take this version of him over the one I anticipated getting.
by dnc on Apr 24, 2025 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
He’s turning into more of a swing and miss pitcher than I thought too. I think some of it is a function of the walks too - a bit of wild effectiveness. I anticipate the walks and the Ks will come down slightly as he feels more comfortable pitching in the zone. He strikes me as the guy who thinks it’s more important to pitch deep into games than to rack up the Ks. I wish I had something solid to back that up with, but just a feeling after seeing some interviews.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Great data
Makes Paxton look not so bad when thinking about his last 2 starts. Hultzen is definitely turning into a beast. Walker is insane - throwing tons of strikes with a crazy low contact %.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
His BB% is slightly misleading I think
120 strikes / 52 ball ratio (before this start) isn’t Dylan Bundy, but it’s still pretty great.
He’s also one of the most efficient pitchers in AA (along with Walker), averaging 2.73 P/PA, which puts him in the top 10.
by valencia on Apr 24, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Franklin
Big day: 3-6, 2 2B Hitting .320 on the year. Haven’t checked the error department, but he could get the call around soon (June? maybe sooner?) to AAA if he stays over .300.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
I'd be shocked if they promote him sooner than that
Given his injury struggles last year I think they have to give him at least a half season of positive at bats at Double A before moving him up. It’s not like they’re slow playing the kid, he’s been pushed plenty.
by dnc on Apr 24, 2025 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He needs to work on his right side
.925 OPS from the left, but only .660 from the right. Also, I think he has like 6 errors on the year, which needs to go down.
by valencia on Apr 24, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point I feel he should just give up the switch-hitting.
He could probably do a lot better if he focused on one side.
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by Marinerfanjake on Apr 24, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Splits
Right: .274/.304/.364 22ABs, 1K, 1BB
Left: .340/.397/.528 53ABs, 11K, 5BB
Not bad from the right. Probably not compelling enough though. Nice to have in his back pocket for opposing managers to think about, but I think you’re right. Lefty power hitting SSs certainly aren’t falling out of the stands.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably should gave it up after he got drafted
I’ll never understand the fetish with switch-hitting
by valencia on Apr 25, 2025 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
RE: "I’ll never understand the fetish with switch-hitting"
Buh?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 25, 2025 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
raul alcantara
i can’t even type his line, it was so bad…
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 24, 2025 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
At least Dusty Robinson is still hitting well in Burlington
.296/.383/.662 with 6 HR’s through 19 games and the K/BB ratio isn’t too bad at 15/9. He’s 22 in Low-A which isn’t that impressive but he has some athleticism.
by OkayJay81 on Apr 24, 2025 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i really love how he's gotten off to a fast start
but i really hate how people are calling for the “derek norris era” to start. it’s only been three weeks!! the dude’s only 23 and in his first year at AAA, let him breathe a little there before calling for him to join the major league club.
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 24, 2025 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
'bring him up'
A think a lot of sentiment has to do with OAK fans knowing that Suzuki is likely gone by August, and would like to see Norris do an apprenticeship of sorts while Kurt is still in the clubhouse (OK, at least that’s my thinking on why they should bring him up).
by dbreer23 on Apr 24, 2025 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i see a lot of people
wanting suzuki gone now (which isn’t unwarranted because he’s absolutely sucking and looking completely lost at the plate) and wanting derek norris to take over catching duties. normally i would agree about getting rid of suzuki, hell, i was advocating it over the offseason, but since our catching depth all of a sudden took a 180 with converting donaldson over to 3B and releasing powell, i’m more hesitant about getting rid of zooks.
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 24, 2025 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
We also have to watch Kurt hit
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by hero66 on Apr 24, 2025 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This will be fun
The only contact on Bundy was from Swihart - a groundout.
Barnes is also: 1IP, 1H, 0ER, 0BB, 2K.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bundy 3 IP 4 K, nothing else
Barnes 2 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 4 K
by rdf8585 on Apr 24, 2025 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i think Bundy gets to go 4 tonight
He has to give up a hit at some point, right?
by dkdc on Apr 24, 2025 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
One day
You’re going to have to do a debrief on the 3IP philosophy. I think I get it, but I don’t.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Long story short
3 inning bursts is a better way to manage pitch counts throughout the season than shutting a pitcher down early?
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Barnes update
strikes out the side in the 4th.
4IP, 2H, 0 ER, 2BB, 9K
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
5 ip 3 h 2 bb 9 k
i think 7 of the 9 k were swinging
by rdf8585 on Apr 24, 2025 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
How soon before you think he gets the bump to A+? Any chance he goes to Portland?
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Final line 4 IP 6k's 0 hits 0 walks
That brings his professional total to 13 IP 0 hits 1 walks 21 k’s
If I had to bet he’s getting promoted after the game
by oriolekid on Apr 24, 2025 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually hate him he's so good.
Jerk
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He better not
I just bought tickets for his next start
by kempsc on Apr 24, 2025 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop saying that
He has at least two more starts before Frederick.
by ADLC on Apr 24, 2025 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That walk is hilarious,
like a beauty mark on an otherwise flawless visage.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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A source with the Shorebirds tells me that Dylan Bundy sat 94-98 with his fastball all four innings. Never touched 99 though.
by rdf8585 on Apr 25, 2025 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Barnes
needs a shout out here too:
his final is posted, but overall 21IP, 9H, 0ER, 4BB, 34K
I know folks are inclined to call out the low A assignment, but I think he’s showing he’s a special pitcher nonetheless. I’m eager to see him against higher comp. He could be the steal of the draft at #19.
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Way too early to call a college pitcher pitching in A- for 4 games the steal of the draft in my opinion.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
he was already called one of the steals of the draft for the past 9 months. This just seems to corroborate those suggestions, no?
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
requirements to be called a "steal of the draft"
A) If the guy ends up producing more value at the major league level than originally anticipated
OR
B) If the guy is traded for a player who produces more value at the major league level than the first guy was originally anticipated to produce
Until one of those two things happen, it’s all arbitrary.
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
And anyone claiming a "steal of the draft" before they have even played a season of minor league ball...
is jumping the gun, no?
People can say they think that he was a great value at that pick, which I will agree with, but 20 innings against seriously inferior competition is not going to prove anything to me.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OK OK
I’m not trying to define “steal of the draft.” He was a great value pick, I think that was already surmised. Simply trying to say that the guy is living up to that moniker which has been thrown against him.
It’s easy to dismiss his numbers and say “it’s inferior competition.” But his numbers still seem to me to be exceptional - enough to say “is he really being underrated/overlooked.” Are there some recent top 10 college arms that have been assigned to low A and what do their numbers look like? I’ll do a bit of searching, but just wondering if you know of anything off the top of your head.
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It's easy to dismiss the numbers for a reason.
I’d like to see what Hultzen could do in A- against 20-year-olds.
by PissedMick on Apr 25, 2025 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Paxton wasn't this good last year in A-ball
Barnes is 104/12 strike/balls and 36% contact (don’t have last start). Paxton was missing the same amount of bats but didn’t have the ridiculous command Barnes is showing.
We have to see how well Barnes’ stuff and command can hold up in the higher As, but so far he’s clearly the front runner for steal of the draft.
by valencia on Apr 25, 2025 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say Paxton, I was talking about a similar polished college pitcher from the 2011 draft.
Barnes was started at a lower level than his contemporaries. That he is mowing them down in that level is encouraging, but has to be viewed in the right context. At this point, I’d say Bundy, Bauer, or Lindor look to be the frontrunners for ‘steal of the draft’, as each one looks like they have a chance to be the best player selected.
by PissedMick on Apr 25, 2025 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Ba-whhhhhat?
I don’t think anyone would say someone that went top 10, or top 5 would be a “steal.” By definition, anyone not going #1 overall could be a “steal.”
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So someone who went #10 overall can't be a steal
But someone who went #19 can be?
By your logic here, we should simply look for the guy with the best major league career who was drafted lowest and had the smallest signing bonus. He will, by your definition, be the ‘steal of the draft.’
Putting these arbitrary limitations on it is getting ridiculous. No one is saying Barnes isn’t, can’t be, or wont be a very good pitcher. We are simply saying that we want to see results at a level appropriate for his polish and skill.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Again
I’m not trying to define “steal of the draft.” That’ll mean different things to different people (expectations vs actual performance; someone falling lower than expected; someone signed for less $$ than someone of similar talent, etc). But I think it should be easy to eliminate certain criteria from being a “steal.” Going top 8 in the draft and paying a significant signing bonus is probably one of them. So no, Lindor, Bauer and Bundy could never be considered “steals.” Barnes at least represents a ~$5m savings over similarly signed top 5 pitchers, at least making an argument for a “steal.” Is he THE STEAL OF THE DRAFT??!!! I’ve said it’s too soon to tell.
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
“By your logic here, we should simply look for the guy with the best major league career who was drafted lowest and had the smallest signing bonus. He will, by your definition, be the ‘steal of the draft.’”
Ummm…yes?
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by OldProspects on Apr 25, 2025 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And that's fine, if that's the definition (which is what I would use too)
And with that being the case, Barnes likely isn’t it either.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and btw
Since you categorize Barnes as on a similar level as Hultzen, Bauer, etc., it should be noted that the signing bonus for the Sox was $1.5m, as opposed to the larger signing bonuses for Hultzen ($6.35m) and Bauer ($3.4m with a 4 year deal). So if they are in fact similar polished college pitchers, I’d say saving ~$5m by drafting a similar guy at 19 overall is a “steal.”
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Similar as in 'polished college pitcher from the 2011 draft'
Hey, look! I quoted myself.
The point is that the level of competition Barnes is facing isn’t as advanced as he is. Of course he’s doing well. He better be.
by PissedMick on Apr 25, 2025 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
RE: same ol' argument
FILL FILL FILL FILL FILL FILL
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. I actually see your argument here as an improvement.
by PissedMick on Apr 26, 2025 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I was actually referring to you
putz.
by Woodland League on Apr 26, 2025 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And I was making fun of you.
You may need to create another account to get someone to back you up on this.
by PissedMick on Apr 26, 2025 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
36% contact rate
If that’s from minorleaguecentral (they’re showing 35.8%), it’s not accurate, since they don’t have pitch by pitch data below AA. In fact, they’re really shouldn’t be publishing it at all, it’s wholly inaccurate.
Have to use a common sense test. 36% contact means he’s missing bats on 2/3 of swings. That’s just never going to happen in professional baseball
by MjwW on Apr 25, 2025 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured it was inaccurate
But as long as the methodology is sound, you can compare A pitchers to each other and get a general feel how each one is doing.
by valencia on Apr 26, 2025 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No, you really can't at all.
It takes a sample size of 3-10+ pitches and combines it into one true outcome. You’re better off looking at stat lines than trying to figure out anything from a completely incorrect contact rate.
by bdlugz on Apr 26, 2025 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, exactly
Especially since for swinging strikes, they’ll attribute 3 swinging strikes, and for called strike outs 3 called strikes, which is not truthful at all. Also, it means fouls are never recorded at all.
It’s completely inaccurate, and Minor League Central should not even be publishing it (for levels where it’s scored like this. For most AA games and AAA games, it’s accurate and its great data). It has no value, and can only mislead.
by MjwW on Apr 26, 2025 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I’d also like to see Barnes against AA hitters. That’s kind of the whole point of this discussion.
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's where it got stuck in my head!
John: (1/20/12)
2) Matt Barnes, RHP, Grade B+. Has the build and stuff of a rotation anchor, and improved every year in college. Still some rough edges and he won’t get to the majors as fast as Trevor Bauer or Danny Hultzen, but he could be a real steal at 19th-overall in the ’11 draft."
So I’m not trying to debate “real steal” vs “steal of the draft,” just more trying to judge whether he’s being crapped on a bit bc everyone says “any decent college arm should have a 0 ERA over 21IP….and btw, SSS!!!” Can we at least say that he seems to be pitching very well, which also has been confirmed by in-person scouting reports that have been posted?
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And I'm not trying to take anything away from him.
He looks great by all accounts, and no earned runs over 21 innings is an impressive stretch no matter how you look at it.
It will be impossible to really see what his talent level is until he is challenged though, and he isn’t challenged at A- (as he shouldn’t be, and that is my main point). He definitely shouldn’t have dropped to 19 in my opinion, and I think he’ll be a great value there, but the “steal of the draft” got me.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he's not going to be that bad all year
but i still feel like he was over-hyped last year, particularly power wise (seems like a lot of people were writing about his power development last winter), off of his hot April.
by toonsterwu on Apr 24, 2025 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
don't understand the logic
if you’re basing your power on his horrid Spring this year.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 25, 2025 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
disagree...
…I never thought he was going to be a “power” guy anyway. The guy can hit for avg and is solid defensively at the position. He’s not overhyped. He’s right where he should be in his development, if not slightly ahead of it.
by rblythepittsteel on Apr 25, 2025 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Carlos Martinez
4IP, 3H, 1ER, 1BB, 5K
Not sure if he’s done since he threw 1 inning the other day during a rain out.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
5IP, 4H, 1ER, 1BB, 6K
Mahtook was 1-2, same with Riccio Torrez out of ASU. Wunderlich also 1-2 with a 2B.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Shhhhh he's good!!
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see him
getting his control back on line. 20:6 K:BB in 17 IP, 12 hits allowed, just three XBH (all doubles).
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely gauche,
but seeing Bundy, Taillon and Martinez all kill it for my dynasty team’s farm on the same day is highly rewarding.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
And Hultzen too, of course
Contentment for one day at least.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
your forgot to mention Jose Fernandez
all he is doing is throwing a no hitter through 5
by Bravesin07 on Apr 24, 2025 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
He's up near the top of the comments
Someone gave him the shout out right away.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He's done
8IP of no hit ball, 2BB. 8K.
Bundy, even with the hype, is in a different league than Bradley. But is there a gap between bradley and JF? Seems like it’s non-existent…
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you talking about?
Your judging all this off a few box scores. Call me silly but long term I would rather have Bradley than either of them. If you don’t agree that’s fine but Bradley is certainly in the same league as Bundy.
by docisking on Apr 24, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
i think bradley and bundy are certainly in the same class, fernandez is likely in the 1b to their 1a class. STUDS abound in this year’s draft class.
by jwa1417 on Apr 24, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
you could have asked first. I was actually going off stuff, tape and make up. I think all three are excellent. I just happen to think Bundy is a bit better. But I don’t think there’s a huge gap. So no, not just a few box scores. Why would you rather have Bradley?
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
.
i’m interested to hear how anyone can differentiate between the two of them at this point. unless you’re an area scout down in oklahoma who has seen them for years, i don’t see how you could definitively say either one is preferrable going forward right now.
i can see the argument for bradley because the d-backs have taken the reins off and he’s throwing more innings than bundy to this point, but bundy’s numbers are otherwordly compared to archie’s. it’s a great debate that will blow up the boards here for the next couple of years for sure
by jwa1417 on Apr 24, 2025 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen decent amount of tape on Bradley and Bundy
never in person. I just like Bundy’s delivery a bit better. I think he rotates the upper body more in sync, putting less load on the front of the shoulder. By no means do I wish any harm to Bradely - in fact, there’s many successful pitchers that come open early. It’s just something I don’t foresee being a problem with Bundy. So small advantage Bundy. Sorry, I shouldn’t have said “in another league.” I meant results-wise, but really it’s not much at this points and pitching in 3 inning spurts is different mentally than managing a start. As far as Fernandez, I haven’t seen as much tape on him, but some. Mainly, even after a few starts, I’m really impressed with the results - enough to wonder if he really is the B&B league. He probably isn’ to their level, but like you said - prob a 1b to their 1a.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think bundy will be a minor leaguer long enough to blow up the boards for a couple of yeras
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Apr 25, 2025 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
How about the contact rate differences?
Bundy: 28.6%
Bradley: 41.4%
Yeah, Bundy’s sample size is small, but if he keeps doing what he’s doing Bundy looks like another Strasburg compared to Bradley, who’s on par with Snydergaard at this point.
by valencia on Apr 25, 2025 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
no offense to Syndergaard
But I like Bradley significantly more than him.
As for Dylan Bundy . . .the term “special” gets used far too liberally, but it’s totally justified in this case. Legitimate polish and top of the rotation stuff.
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradley, who’s on par with Snydergaard at this point
in terms of contact rate? sure. but overall? you must be joking.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 25, 2025 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Why's that?
Bradley (age 19.92): contact: 41.4%, 2.44 Strike/Ball, 55.8% GB%
Snydergaard (age 19.92): contact 42.6%, 2.45 Strike/Ball, 67.9% GB%
Of course it’s small sample size, but they look virtually identical so far
by valencia on Apr 25, 2025 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I was under the impression
that Bradley already has a plus curve while Syndergaard has a curveball that flashes above-average but mainly relies on his fastball at the moment.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 25, 2025 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Was the Bradley grade from prior to the draft or in pro ball?
Because it is much easier to show a plus curve with the big seams on an amateur baseball than the small ones on the pro baseball. Just because there were reports of his curve being plus in the past doesn’t mean it has fully translated.
by nixa37 on Apr 25, 2025 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
the curveball is plus
depending on who you ask in the org, they’ll say it’s the best curveball in the organization
others will say Bauer or Skaggs of course
by blue bulldog on Apr 25, 2025 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
These (contact) numbers are garbage!!!
There is no pitch by pitch data from below AA, so all this is using the stupid BB=4 balls, K=3 strikes and BIP=1strike!
A contact rate of ~45% means every time a batter swings, he makes contact less than half the time (MLB average, just to give a reference point, not make a comparison, is 81%).
by MjwW on Apr 25, 2025 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Drew Vettleson with a big game
4-4 2B HR(2)
Now hitting .333 with a .397 obp. Also has 5 SB on 7 attempts
Same Game:
Jeff Malm 3-4 2 2B
Now hitting .322 with a .385 obp
Ryan Carpenter 6IP 5H 1R 2BB 3K 1HR
No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.
And at the #5 pick in the Draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: Someone that is hopefully not Trent RIchardson!
by thedudeofdudes on Apr 24, 2025 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
Aww you beat me to it.
Was making sure no one else had posted Vettleson’s line yet.
Leader of Drew Vettleson fanclub
by Marinerfanjake on Apr 24, 2025 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Taillon
Taillon: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO
s.zielinski
by steve_z on Apr 24, 2025 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
Any idea
where to find his pitch counts? I’m just curious what kind of limit the Pirates have him working on so far. Gotta love her performance so far, though…
by KentuckyPirate on Apr 24, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
usually on the gameday
or the box score
just go to the team site, then go to the roster drop down bar, click minor league affiliates, then it’ll give you the scores and game recap buttons
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 24, 2025 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it does have it on gameday
but that’s only available during the games. The box scores from the team site has batters faced but not pitch count which is annoying…
by KentuckyPirate on Apr 24, 2025 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
weird you're right
normally it has pitch counts too. well, beats me
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 24, 2025 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
"Gotta love *her* performance so far, though…"
Is there something we should know, KP?
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
18.2 IP
12 H, 4ER, 3 BB, 24K on the year.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 24, 2025 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I could not find his pitch counts or any MiL pitch counts anywhere
s.zielinski
by steve_z on Apr 24, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Other Pirates prospects highlights
Marte heating up? 2-3 with 2 BB and a 3B
Hanson: 2-4 with a 2B
Carvajal: 2-4
s.zielinski
by steve_z on Apr 24, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Joah Bell
1-2, pulled from the game because of an undisclosed injury
Pirates Luck ™
s.zielinski
by steve_z on Apr 24, 2025 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
JOSH Bell...
I probably wasn’t as high on Bell as everyone else seemed to be but it is early and injuries cannot be helped. Lord knows with how well the Pirates are hitting now, they need as many help with bats as possible out of this system.
by rblythepittsteel on Apr 25, 2025 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
See Over Rated FanPost thread for more views on Bell
by Jersey Transplant on Apr 25, 2025 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
finisshed
2-3, BB, K
.274 on the year.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Altuve just homered to right-center field
His reaction:
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
plus
a BB and another SB. It’s great to see him up his walk rate in the early going.
by sethbeno on Apr 24, 2025 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
no HR yet
but Middlebrooks has a 3B and a BB so far tonight.
by rdf8585 on Apr 24, 2025 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
Middlebrooks
Boston is already out of it (lets face it)…wonder when he will get the call. June?
by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 25, 2025 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
today's thread (4/25) isn't posted yet...
but have no fear…Middlebrooks went yard already today
by jwa1417 on Apr 25, 2025 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Jace Peterson
3-4, SO, BB
Mistakenly found its way into the Norris thread
by BigG'S on Apr 24, 2025 8:40 PM EDT via Android app reply actions
plus two stolen bases and a walk
big night so far
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 25, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Cubs
Most games are done.
Iowa got controlled by Shelby Miller, 4-0.
Brett Jackson: 0/3, 2 bb, 2 K’s, SB. The 2 K’s look bad, but he had been relatively good at not striking out the last week or so (3 K’s over last 26 AB’s). Going to happen, particularly against top pitching that can take advantage of holes in his swing.
Luis Valbuena: 2/4, 1 2B, 2 K’s. I imagine he might get a look in the bigs later this summer.
Anthony Rizzo, 1/4, E.
Welington Castillo: 2/4, 1 K.
Adrian Cardenas: 0/4.
Josh Vitters: 1/4, 1 K. Showing an improved approach this year, but production isn’t there yet.
Travis Wood: 6 ip, 7 h, 2 bb, 2 R (1 unearned), 8 K’s, 1 HBP, 4:4 GO/FO. Bad spring cost him a big league shot, bad luck in Iowa is making his ERA high, but overall, solid start. That said, we knew he could perform in AAA.
Tennessee lost to Chattanooga, 7-5.
Jae-Hoon Ha: 3/5, 1 R, 2 2B, 2 K, E. Like a lot of Cubs bats, he can be streaky. Slow start to year, but more interesting is whether or not he is the top CF defender that some have made him out to be. Error hurt Rhee in the first.
Dae-Eun Rhee: 5 ip, 9h, 7 R (2 unearned), 1bb, 5 K’s, 2 HBP, 5:5 GO/FO. 2 bad starts, but the defense hurt him in the first. Settled down afterwards and had a decent 4 innings afterwards.
Peoria beat Lansing, 6-2 and the Sanchez/Nicolino piggyback (I’m assuming).
Zeke DeVoss: 1/4, 1 2B, 3 K.
Pin-Chieh Chen: 2/4, 1 R, 1 K, 1 E.
Kyler Burke: 6 ip, 3 h, 1bb, 4 K’s, 1 balk, 2:9 GO/FO.
Benjamin Wells: 3 ip, 5 h, 2 R, 2 K’s, 4:1 GO/FO.
Burke/Wells are a piggyback tandem. Burke may be one of the more fascinating arms in the system, but he’s also coming up on minor league FA status, so this is a huge year for him. Stuff wise, the indications are that he has a plus fastball that hits mid-90’s, a plus breaking ball, and is working on his other pitches. He definitely has the size and frame to be an intriguing starting arm, but time is of the essence. Wells ERA is bad, but his sinker is showing well (very good GO/FO ratio and he’s getting a ridiculous amount of GB’s), the walks are done, the K’s are slightly up, and indications are that his breaking ball is better than last year. For April, I’m fairly pleased.
Daytona is on-going.
by toonsterwu on Apr 24, 2025 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
didn't realize Daytona was done
Got blown out by Lakeland, 13-5.
Matt Szczur: 2/3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 2 BB. Very good day for Szczur. Haven’t been too many of those this year so far. Walk rate is up a lot - seems like the players got a message from up top.
Rubi Silva: 2/5, 1 R, 1 RBI, 2 K. Cuban is in his age 22/23 season. Very good offensive tools to work with, some pop in the bat. Like many Cubs, his walks are up in the early-going, but unlike others, he’s been producing offensively (granted, likely a lot of luck). Still, the tools are interesting, but the question is what position? He’s dabbled at 2nd when Torreyes isn’t there, but otherwise, is in a corner role, with Szczur manning CF.
by toonsterwu on Apr 24, 2025 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
greatly encouraged
by Szczur’s greatly improved BB rate. I think you’re right—clearly he’s had some instruction about his approach, hopefully the hits will come back as he adjusts
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 25, 2025 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
sure feels like
the entire system got some marching orders about discipline. Ha’s walk rate is up as well. For some of our guys, I’m not expecting consistent offensive production because we have a lot of “instinct” guys, and trying to find that balance isn’t always easy.
I mean, Richard Jones went up a level and maintained his K and BB rates, something I didn’t really expect, to be honest.
Very curious about how Junior Lake will be offensively when he gets back.
by toonsterwu on Apr 25, 2025 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Love seeing that Szczur has a 13.4 BB% in the early going of the season.
I think he’ll be just fine once he gets that .250 BABIP to a reasonable level.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
some FSL
Cesar Puello 2-4
Wilmer Flores 1-4, HR (2), K
Levi Michael 2-3, 3B, BB
Daniel Santana 2-4, 2B
Oswaldo Arcia 1-3, BB, K
Angel Morales 2-4, 2B, K
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 24, 2025 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
Still only 20...
nice to see a pretty good start out of wilmer
by gobruins12345 on Apr 25, 2025 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Alen Hanson
Just a friendly reminder that he’s still raking. 2/3, 2B
by Ryne Alber on Apr 24, 2025 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Finished 2/4
pulled in the 9th. Was a pinch hitter so didn’t seem like an injury.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 24, 2025 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Surely it wasn't for
A defensive replacement, right?
by Ryne Alber on Apr 24, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking at the box score
It was 12-2 or 14-2 when those guys came out, plus it’s probably freezing in WV right now so maybe they just didn’t want anyone pulling a hammy or anything at that point?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell was pulled...
…because of an undisclosed injury. He injured himself running the bases after he hit a single.
s.zielinski
by steve_z on Apr 24, 2025 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is that
whatever fear would dictate that a manager pull a star player to prevent injury actually came true in this instance? Only with the Pirates…
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
B.J. Hermsen (not Taillon's opponent)
5.0 IP - 7 H - 1 ER - 2 K’s, 1 BB….
a little disapointed only the 2 k’s after what he did in his last start but still ok start.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 24, 2025 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
"B.J. Hermsen (not Taillon's opponent)"
I don’t believe you…
by KentuckyPirate on Apr 24, 2025 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd have been disappointed
if the Ks were that high again as it would be a good sign he’d sold his soul.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Trevor Rosenthal
Personal favorite. 5 IP, 0 ER, 3 H, 5 SO, 1 BB so far. Still pitching.
by Ryne Alber on Apr 24, 2025 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
can he start for St. Louis next year? or more of a reliever for the Cards?
you think?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 24, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He needs to make a lot of progress
Both with his control and his secondary pitches. If he can do that consistently, I think he could be up by midseason. But I am pretty optimistic with him.
by Ryne Alber on Apr 24, 2025 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan Lyles
No hitter vs Albq through 5
5IP, 0H, 0 ER, 2BB, 5K
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
So far
7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K
Not sure if done or not
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Tired out
Started the inning at 87 pitches, gave up 1B, line out, 1B, 1B, 3B. Relieved with a man on third.
Final pending the runner on third: 7.1IP, 6H, 3ER, 2BB, 6K 3.12 ERA on the year
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Run scored
7.1IP, 6H, 4ER, 2BB 6K in the books
3.46 ERA on the year.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucks
Guess they should’ve pulled him.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Should note
The 11-1 GO-AO ratio. That improved cutter seems to be playing really well in the PCL. His GO:AO ration sits at 2.69 on the year, with a .255 BAA. Excellent numbers.
by Woodland League on Apr 25, 2025 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Singleton homered again
Power numbers really starting to pick up.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
He tripled as well
He is a double away from the cycle
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
All off Sonny Gray
for what it’s worth. I love Singleton as a prospect.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 24, 2025 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently there is a 15mph wind blowing balls back in as well.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction: 25mph
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ooo Sano like. lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 24, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, that's what's causing the heavy wind?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Corpus Christi often has a strong wind blowing in from RF
If I remember right. As a ballpark it tends to depress LHB power numbers.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So I guess Woodland League is standing out there
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Doing what he can
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I stop when Singleton gets up though
ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well thanks!
Cause he just hit his second homer of the night.
4-4, 1B, 2B, and two homers
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Zack Wheeler
5IP, 3H, 0ER, 6BB, 3K, 1WP, 5GB-3FO
by psiogen on Apr 24, 2025 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh
his BB% was looking good until this one…
by sethbeno on Apr 24, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Deolis Guerra, 2.0 IP, 1 Hit, 5 K's in relief 0 BB's
time to move him up to the international league yesterday.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 24, 2025 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
Oscar Tejada 3-4, HR
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 24, 2025 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
Noticed the other day
that he’s been moved to LF. Really has to hit now.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw some of it
looked like he was getting a ton of first strikes and then had the Yank’s chasing quite a few breaking balls outside the strike zone for K’s.
by RedHopeful on Apr 24, 2025 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
STUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUDSTUD
finally looking comfortable, was pitching with great pace and command the entire game. used the entire arsenal to the yanks dismay tonight
by jwa1417 on Apr 24, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Big time stud tonight
His last AB to Jeter was awesome. 1-2, cutter just off the plate. Jeter held off. Came back 2-2 with the same pitch in the same location. Got him swinging haplessly this time. Great sequence and command.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Darvish velocity chart...
That is a thing of beauty
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes;!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
by laxtonto on Apr 25, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who knew
that his breakout game would come against the mighty Yanks after struggling against some poor lineups earlier this month? Not me….
by rdf8585 on Apr 25, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
He had the bases loaded with no outs and Granderson up
K’d him, then got A-Rod to GIDP to get out of the inning unscathed. I sensed at that moment that it was going to be the turning point of Darvish’s early career. He obviously has talent in spades, and now he is going to have confidence. When he starts attacking hitters instead of being a little timid and feeling out the new environment, look out.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Watched the game...
…and the arsenal was brought out tonight. Looked like he was using 5 or 6 of those pitches he has. Confounded the Yankees hitters all night. Guy is the real deal. Imagine where he will be midway through the season!
by rblythepittsteel on Apr 25, 2025 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
truth
great little piece by Parks on Darvish last night. i’m sure he will expand on this at some point before his next start, but this is prospect porn.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=16647
by jwa1417 on Apr 25, 2025 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Starling Marte
2/3, 3B, 2BB <— Both unintentional. Craziness.
Robbie Grossman 0-5, K, Struggling so far this year but still walking.
Tony Sanchez 0-3, BB, K
Jeff Locke 6IP, 3H, ER, BB, 6K
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 24, 2025 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
wow
It wouldn’t surprise me if that is the first time he’s ever walked twice in a game.
by sethbeno on Apr 24, 2025 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he was just
day dreaming about the Avengers and that shit just sorta happened.
by sourstuff on Apr 24, 2025 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Both unintentional
quite possible
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 24, 2025 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I would really like if Locke could become a #4
and be counted on for quality starts from the left side most every time out. Not asking much, just maybe a sub-4.50 ERA guy who can give 6 IP every fifth day.
He had a decent year last year (bad cup of coffee notwithstanding), but his main bugaboo was a high walk rate. This year early he has a 21/3 K/BB, which is way more important than the other numbers he’s putting up.
If he can be counted on for decent innings over the next 4-5 years behind Cole, Taillon and whoever else steps up over the next few years, that would be very nice. One can dream.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly my thinking
The Pirates have plenty of guys who can fill that #4 and #5 role. Rudy Owens is quietly having a nice year.
Line so far. 19 IP, 13H, 6ER (on 5 HR - probably a mix of unluckiness and bad pitching) 13K, 0BB
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 24, 2025 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I stuck my neck out for Owens last year
and looked sorta stupid. But I still like the package he could bring if he ever gets a consistent feel for his command like he did the 2nd half of 2010. He has the kind of stuff from the left side that gets you to the big leagues and keeps you there if you can command it properly.
Here’s to hoping one or both of those two make the Lance Lynn leap. They’re both a few months younger…
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I had him in my top fifty pitchers list, John said it was reasonable, but looked stupid after last year.
by cookiedabookie on Apr 25, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone seen Locke this year
The numbers look like the above often enough to interest me, but when I saw him last year he was completely average looking across the board. #4 seems about right.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm also a dude
who loves Charlie Morton. I seriously think the Pirates should just find Dave Duncan and pay him whatever it takes to AT LEAST come to Spring Training as a consultant or work with a few guys in the offseason. I mean, Morton’s nasty sinker and good curve mixed with some confidence & pitchability plus a little bit of consistency would be the same cocktail that Dave Duncan served up with guys like Pineiro, Lohse, McClellan, etc.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Myers
2-3, BB 2B
playing RF, assist to 2B.
by Woodland League on Apr 24, 2025 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Kyle Waldrop
2/3
.346/.470/.519 10/7 BB/K on the season(16 games). For a raw guy he’s making some adjustments.
(He only walked 10 times last season).
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
Was saying the same yesterday
Waiting to see how the power develops next.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Greensboro Grasshoppers( Marlins' Low-A)
Pitched a combine No-no.
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Maikel Franco
3/5, 3B, HR(3)
Nice sleeper.
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
My man
Starting to control the strike zone better as well.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Castellanos
3/5, BB
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
Tyler Collins
3/5, 2 2B, BB, K
XandyMan Coming for you!!!!1
by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
Dixon Machado
2/4, 2B, 2BB, K
Has already tied his XBH output of last season which was 3.
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
Noah Perio
3/5, 3 2B
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Jake Marisnick
1/5 HR(1)
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:26 PM EDT reply actions
Has anyone seen him much?
Any particular thing he’s struggling with in his slow start
by gobruins12345 on Apr 25, 2025 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
just glanced at his stats
slow start might just be a BABIP mirage
by Lucretius on Apr 25, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilmington Blue Rocks vs Salem Red Sox
Hitting:
Cuthbert: 2/4, K (He hit his 1st HR but the game got suspended over the weekend if not his numbers would be back to normal)
Jackie Bradley Jr: 1/4, 2B, BB, K (Good start of the season so far)
Xander Bogaerts: 2/5, 2B, K
Michael Almanzar (remember me?): 2/3, 2B, BB, K (There is nothing here but at least a hot start to open the season)
Pitching
4.2 IP, 4H, ER, BB, 10K, 3-2 GO-FO
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Nick Ahmed
4/5, BB, 2 SB(8)
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
Edward Slacedo
2/6, HR(3), 2K, E(5)
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
Springer 4/4 with 2 triples
Nice rebound game after striking out in every AB yesterday.
I’m a believer, he’s struggling a bit right now but he’ll adjust. A+++ makeup/work ethic.
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by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 11:40 PM EDT reply actions
Much too early to worry
And strikeouts are just gonna be part of the package I expect. I’m sticking with my Mike Cameron comp.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I can see him hitting for a slightly higher average than Cameron though. Maybe more like .260-.270 instead of .250.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Cameron
hit .256-.267 in 4 of his first 5 full seasons in the bigs. Turning out like him would be a GREAT result for Springer, especially if the defense is at the same level.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's definitely
a measure of how good I think Springer can be. Expecting the glove to be as good as Cameron’s is tough, but I do expect great CF defense.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I basically agree on all counts
I’m extremely high on Springer, but not sure how advanced his defensive skills are.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 25, 2025 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Al Skorupa
is a good source. Got really good video in Springer’s draft year, and always gave his defense good reviews. From what I’ve seen his range and instincts grade out well.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we need to shy away from pegging his future batting average too highly til he's not striking out 5 times in a game
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Meh
It’s April 25th. Nothing I’ve seen statistically about any player truly changes his stock. He strikes out five times in one game, then gets hits in all four ABs the next. That’s just baseball—volatile sport night in and night out.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 25, 2025 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
tl;dr
NEED MORE DATA.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 25, 2025 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Gattis
3 for 5 with two homers, walk, strikeout. Who’s catching at Double-A for ATL?
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
Bethancourt
IIRC. More importantly, who’s in LF at Double-A for ATL?
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 25, 2025 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Gattis is still probably at least 2 years away from being MLB ready defensively at C. At this point they really just need to find a position he isn’t terrible at, push him up more aggressively, and evaluate what they have offensively. The only way I can see him playing C in the majors is in the AL as 1B/DH type who plays about a game a week at C.
by nixa37 on Apr 25, 2025 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Jonathan Singleton
4/4, 2 HR(3)
Ummmm could we see him make his big league debut in the 2nd half of the season?
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
My early read on the Jeff Luhnow Astros front office
Is that they take things slow and methodical and try to develop players the right way, similar to the Rays. I could see Singleton forcing the issue but he will have to REALLY be killing it to make it up before September.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 24, 2025 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
A little off topic
But I’m very impressed with what the Astros FO has been doing. There is really no reason for them not to be the consensus worst team in the MLB this year…but they’re not. I don’t know if they’re getting lucky or if their personnel guys are onto something scouting-wise or market inefficiency-wise, but their team is surprisingly competitive.
Guys like Altuve, J.D. Martinez, Schafer, who were not really rated, underrated and left for dead as a prospect all look good so far. I heard that they have 0!!! players in their system from the entire 2007 draft, not even 5 years after the fact. I don’t know how that starting rotation or bullpen is going to compete as the season rolls on, but count me impressed for the short-term patchwork and long-term minor league rebuilding they’re undertaking right now.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 24, 2025 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It is nice as an Astros fan to at least be heading in the right direction.
Finally.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Apr 25, 2025 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Schafer
was a top-50 prospect at one time.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 25, 2025 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct
that’s why I didn’t use “underrated” for all 3…I figured “left for dead” fit Schafer, who was highly regarded, got rushed and struggled, then got banned for 50 games, then struggled again over several years. He hadn’t posted an OPS over .688 since 2008.
He is striking out an awful lot, but he’s only 25 and quite frankly, these are the kinds of chances the Astros need to be taking. The natural ability is there. With his defense, his floor is a 4th OF, but if he’s something more then that, then bravo for the buy low.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Schafer is the reason I liked the Bourn deal for the Astros
I didn’t understand some of the crap they took from experts for that deal. Schafer has the tools to be a great CF and at the very least is valuable to a team like the Astros while he’s cost controlled. Basically he’s a guy that’s got the tools to develop into a legit first division regular and is good enough currently to not embarrass you in the mean time.
by nixa37 on Apr 25, 2025 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
classic change of scenery guy
now, if the Phillies could do that with Brown and the Blue Jays with Snider, then all could be good in the world.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 25, 2025 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Not so much a bounce back
He’s been spraying line drives all year and was OPSing .900+ coming into today, just with only one bomb. To see him hit two yesterday really has me excited, especially with one being off of Gray. I think he could turn into a Joey Votto-like hitter.
by kyuss94 on Apr 25, 2025 8:54 AM EDT via Android app up reply actions
I'm not as familiar with Singleton as I would like...
Votto-like is seriously high praise, does he have that kind of an offensive ceiling? We’re talking triple crown contention with numbers like that.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Odubel Herrera
2 for 5 with a double, K
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
WMB
1/2, 3B, 2BB.
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 24, 2025 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
Youkilis should be traded fairly soon. Or moved to RF.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 25, 2025 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I cannot imagine Youk in right field
I just tried to do it and I can’t. Baseball-reference tells me he has 8.2 innings experience there, but I don’t believe it.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
No one is going to offer
anything for him at this point. Boston also has a history of being patient so I expect Youk to be given quite some more rope. Naturally, if he’s still fighting the mendoza line this time next month, BOS might be forced to do something.
by RedHopeful on Apr 25, 2025 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Jiwan James
2 for 4 with a double. Hitting well over .300 but also striking out at 30%+
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
Kobernus
2 for 4. Contact no problem and 11 of 14 on stolen bases.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
Danny Mateo
1 for 3 with a homer, two walks. Could be ready to move more quickly after three years of short season.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
Jared Mitchell
1 for 2 with two walks. Four walks, no strikeouts in last three games after four game stretch of nine strikeouts and no walks last week. Fascinating start to the year. Can’t wait to see where the season takes him.
by charles wallace on Apr 24, 2025 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah I'm on Jared watch too.
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 25, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course
There’s like an 89% overlap in the players you and I follow from what I can tell. lol
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely!!
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by DominicanDandy on Apr 25, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Christian Villanueva
2 for 4 with a strikeout.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Ariel Pena bounce back
6.2IP 5H 2R 2ER 1BB 8K with 1 HRA.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
Tolleson
1.1IP 1H 0R 0BB 2K. 15:0 K:BB in 8 IP to start the season.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
studly
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 25, 2025 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I know it's major league baseball
but I love watching Tommy Milone pitch.
by sourstuff on Apr 25, 2025 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He started the game with under 50 IP
But has recently crossed the threshold. He can be grandfathered into the discussion here.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
isn't it 50 IP in one year?
or is it career?
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 25, 2025 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Cumulative I believe
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
I was kidding about him being grandfathered into the discussion. I don’t know if there are any hard and fast rules on what can be discussed here, but if there are I certainly am not any sort of arbiter, so disregard anything I say.
Milone is the man. Dude can obviously pitch.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
oh i didn't care about the whole grandfathered part haha
yeah, he’s been proving me wrong and i’m loving it. i really didn’t think he was anything too special coming into the season.
Snoochies
by guessatomo on Apr 25, 2025 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a lefty who is smart and has excellent command
Rumor has it, with that skillset you can pitch until you’re 49.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
With this new lead
I hope they let him go for the CG SHO
by sourstuff on Apr 25, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Read through this whole thread to FINALLY see a Milone mentioning
(if he wasn’t listed here somewhere) I was going to bloody up the thread with Milone for Mayor Oakland 2012!!!
campaign….
I’m into politics. (sadly)
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 25, 2025 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Oscar Taveras
0-2 after he came in as a replacement, game still in extra innings. After the hot start, he’s 2/15 with 2 2bs, no walks (and only one on the year) in the last few games. back to earth?
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 25, 2025 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
Imagine that lol
People coming back to Earth
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 25, 2025 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
if he ends the season > 340+ at AA at his age, it might be time to knock him up to the top 5 prospects next year. But now that he looks human, with a terrible K/BB ratio and uncoventional swing that will probably have holes exposed….
His stock is probably where it started in the beginning of the year. Which would be why I didn’t get excited over a 2-3 weeks of stats. Admittedly, if his K/BB ratio was 1/12 instead of 12/1 last week, I might have.
by Jack203 on Apr 25, 2025 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I know this is hopeless
. . . to you “walk obsessed” folks but, when Taveras is second in the TL in total bases and, second in XBH’s and, he doesn’t turn 20 in June . . . I think that is FAR more significant than his walk rate.
I think when a lot of evaluators questioned how he would handle the Florida State Leaguye and, he jumps up to AA BALL and more than “handles” it … he is excelling in it . . . i would tend to think that might raise his stock some. BA had him at 74. I don’t think I am going on a limp to think thare a few less than 73 prospects as good as this guy.
As far as coming “back to earth”, you guys do realize that he is actually SUPPOSED to have some struggles in AA ball right? Even if he is a great hitting prospect, he is 19. I will never, ever understand the bizarre tendency to hitpick this guy . . . tears up the MWL: people have problems with it… Freaking great baseball swing: People have problems with it … Rolls into AA ball, tears it up: people have problems with it. All I see is a guy who hits, and hits, and hits.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 25, 2025 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
yabbut
two weeks of hotness isn’t tearing up AA ball, not yet at least.
granted, if he finishes with his current line, .306/.315/.583, I’ll be pretty impressed with that performance by a 19-year old in the Texas League, and he’d easily make my top 30. do you not find the lack of walks at all concerning, though? I really don’t think this falls in the category of nit-picking.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 25, 2025 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I really, really
. . . think it does. By the way, I’m glad a guy who tears up the TL at 20 could sneak into your top 30 LOL. I like him around 8th or so. I never find a lack of walks concerning so i’m the wrong one to ask. There are lots of ways to become a good basball player and, walking is just one of them. Besides that, he has a decent batting eye.
I love the concept of “hotness” by the way. It kinda reminds me of what people were saying about his performance last season . . . comical. I can feel it coming. Who’s going to start talking about huis babip or his grounball rate or his swing or his defense or his whatever… anything to avoid just talking about what a great, young hitter he is!
Ok, gotta run
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 25, 2025 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
the lack of walks are a little concerning
the lack of singles are more concerning. SSS though. But guys that don’t walk and hit mostly XBH concern me. A lot. It’s like they expand their zone and destroy mistakes. As they get up the ladder pitchers are able to make them keep expanding their zone. And the mistakes are a lot less.
SSS
But casejud really loves OT so he won’t hear any negative on him until the honeymoon is over then … Lol, just teasing case.
by pedrophile on Apr 25, 2025 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He hits a ton of singles pedro
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 25, 2025 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No one here dislikes OT from what I've read...
But you need to realize there are reasons to at least temper expectations. I get that you really like him as a prospect, but he’s not all puppies and rainbows.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He is
This is what some of us do. Some hem and haw and express doubt, use thier judgment and just say what they see. I’m telling you that he is “all puppies and rainbows”.
Do you want me to haul out the list of 19-20 year old ballplayers who were good players in AA ball? And yes, I was higher than most everyone on Jon Singleton last season, my good Fella.
Oscar was tremendous at a very young age, in a very tough league last year. Many here expressed doubt of how he’d do in High A - I did not. To me it was plainly obvious he would have great success.
Here the yopung man is… RIPPING AA PITCHING… and people ar still quibbling with the swing, the walk rate, etc. I love you all but, I am not buying ANY of that shit. :)
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 26, 2025 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
So what I read there is, regardless of the legitimacy of our concerns
Nothing will change your mind because you’re already convinced he can do no wrong.
Okay, I’ll make a mental note to never ever discuss OT with you in the future, because it will be the equivalent of banging my head against a wall.
by bdlugz on Apr 26, 2025 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
"never ever discuss OT with you"
Bless you for reaching the inevitable conclusion relatively quickly.
by charles wallace on Apr 26, 2025 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, thats fine I suppose
That is up to you but, I don’t suppose I’m having to much luck convincing you that he is a future All-Star big leaguer am I. There are two sides to that coin eh?
I’m all for keeping an open mind and, I change my mind on prospects on a daily basis but, I can be pretty stubborn once I believe in a player. I guess I just don’t understand why people don’t see how good he is.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 26, 2025 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see anyone convinced that he can't be an all star
It’s just that everyone else seems to think there’s a range of possible outcomes for him that includes some less rosy conclusions, whereas you seem to think All Star is his floor.
by dnc on Apr 26, 2025 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, sort of
we can have doubts about how even the very TOP prospects will do in the major leagues.
I’m just mainly trying to argue that he is one of the very best players in the minor leagues, right now. Not the 74th best or, the 50th, or the 30th. I think there are only a handfull of more talented players.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 27, 2025 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow... fail
You’re spending way too much time worrying about 15-20 spots on a prospect list that’s completely opinion based.
by bdlugz on Apr 27, 2025 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
We are spending too much time looking at prospects here dude LOL. Our relative nerdiness isn’t really at issue is it?
I do a numbered list for a reason Buddy. The difference between the 8th best guy and the 34th or the 74th, is fairly major . . . unless you think there are 73 future All-Stars currently in the minor leagues. That would be truly amazing!
Some of us do this to recognize the future stars bd, even if it is opinion based, its still a challenge of our abiklities to see things before they happen.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 27, 2025 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we have a different approach to how these lists work...
You tend to work on much more certainty than I like. You’re convinced the guys you put 1-10 will be incredible players, 11-30 will be pretty good players, etc. I don’t only do lists only on upside - I rank based on relative floor, closeness to the majors, what their ceiling is, and the odds they reach that ceiling.
I rank Tavares around 30-40 because although I like his ceiling, he’s still young and has a enough question marks to make me question whether he ever hits his ceiling, which I do agree is very high. He’s not proven above A ball for long enough for me to say without a doubt he can hit advanced pitching, because the pitching hasn’t had time to adjust to his swing yet. I think that if he reaches his ceiling, he could very well be a dynamic, game changing player - we aren’t different on that aspect of him. You just seem to think he’ll hit that with100% certainty and I don’t.
by bdlugz on Apr 27, 2025 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This
It’s not just the ceilings, and floors; it’s also the likelihoods of reaching those.
by MjwW on Apr 27, 2025 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Slight edit needed bdlugz
“Okay, I’ll make a mental note to never ever discuss anything with you in the future, because it will be the equivalent of banging my head against a wall.”
That will be more beneficial to you.
by dnc on Apr 26, 2025 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
True
Expanding the moratorium per dnc’s advice is highly advisable.
by charles wallace on Apr 26, 2025 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think this is the case at all...
Freaking great baseball swing
Yes, he has a quick swing and great plate coverage, but he’s got a big leg kick and a swing that is so hard he almost looks off balance. There is a ton going on in that swing, and he could see difficulty repeating it successfully. I believe he is also a front foot hitter.
With that said, what he has done for the first couple of weeks is VERY impressive and is worth paying attention to, but it hardly answers every question about him and his swing.
To go along with the swing (which I feel will be exploited eventually), the inability or unwillingness to take walks is definitely concerning, no matter how well he is hitting for a 2 week stretch.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize that Total Bases is completely tilted to favor guys who don't walk, right?
by PissedMick on Apr 25, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, no I don't exactly
Total bases get runners in so i don’t know what your point is.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 25, 2025 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Total Bases doesn't count walks.
So a guy who hits 100 singles, 40 doubles, and 20 HR while walking 80 times over 600 PAs is going to have fewer Total Bases than a guy who hits 120 singles, 35 doubles, and 18 HR while walking 20 times in 600 PAs.
The first guy’s a .308/.400/.500 hitter with 260 Total Bases, while the second guy is a .298/.322/.452 hitter with 262 Total Bases.
It’s not a good stat.
by PissedMick on Apr 26, 2025 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
No offense
. . . but, that is absurd. I am well aware of the importance of getting baserunners on but, getting total bases to drive them in is important too. If you don’t think getting a lot of total bases is a good thing, I don’t know what to tell you Pal. I didn’t say that total bases is the only stat that matters.
"Does it make your life easier to just throw a quick, racist term at somebody? A man who has seen the things I’ve seen… experienced the loss and pain that I’ve experienced… I transcend race, hombre." - Kenny Powers
by casejud on Apr 26, 2025 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Matt Adams
Noticed he hadn’t been starting this week. Hyper-extended his elbow on Saturday but expected back later this week.
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
Ventura
4.2 ip, 4 h, 1 r, 1 bb, 10 k
my goodness this kid is impressive. 26 K’s in 16 innings this year.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
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by doublestix on Apr 25, 2025 1:09 AM EDT reply actions
liking the inning count too
They’re letting him work through a lineup multiple times, which should really help his development along.
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
touched 99
He should just settle in at 92-97 thats plenty….they say he pitches better when he isn’t trying to light a radar gun up.
(but being a Twins fan, I wound’t mind seeing him trying to keep rearing back and nailing 100)
lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/photo-logan-morrison-bryan-petersen-share-tub-drink-043548597.html
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 25, 2025 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Billy Hamilton
2-5 R 3B SB K…also, his favorite move in Street Fighter is Guile’s Sonic Boom.
by sourstuff on Apr 25, 2025 1:21 AM EDT reply actions
I have him in a dynasty league
should I look to deal him while he’s riding high on this crazy, crazy wave or should I hold onto him until he makes it to the bigs? Relevant: the league is 5×5 plus OPS and holds. There’s a sort of sliding scale re: SB and OPS that I’m usually concerned with.
If he’s a SS in the majors who can OPS ~.700 or better and steal 70+ bags, that’s almost literally priceless.
If he’s an OF in the majors " " " ", that’s a good 3rd OF
If he’s an OF and doesn’t OPS more than .675 and doesn’t hit leadoff, he’s basically Tony Campana with plate appearances (not that those would be guaranteed).
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm holding him
and I’m in a dynasty with the same categories. I truly expect that when he’s ready, Phillips will be moved to 3rd - the OF isn’t in his future.
by RedHopeful on Apr 25, 2025 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
For now, I can't justify trading away a possible cornerstone SS
I mean, I know the chances he gets moves or sputters out at some point are decently high at this point, but I’ve been in dynasty leagues for a long time and the last SS I kept for more than one season was Derek Jeter. I would love a dude that I could stick there and not worry about his production.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, I'd hold.
I’m a SS junkie, and have an overpriced Tulo right now, so my minors have Profar and Machado, figure one of them can take over that spot in a year or two.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd obviously rather have one of those two
I was having serious questions about whether to deal Hamilton thinking he’d come back down to Earth and maybe never carry this much hype. But I doubt I’d get too much for him anyway, and with MiLB guys I’d rather hold them too long than quit on them too early
Coincidentally, I drafted Trout a few years ago in the minor league draft portion of my league…and guess who I dropped? Eric Hosmer. So yeah.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, we've all made dumb decisions in fantasy...
I think Hamiltons speed alone will allow him to maintain a reasonable average, and you’re looking at 70+ steals a year from him. That’s a ton of value even if there is never any power and he doesn’t become more patient.
He may not be a top 5 SS, but there should be value there unless something goes wrong.
by bdlugz on Apr 25, 2025 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Guile’s Sonic Boom.
I’m waiting for the night that M. Bison is catching. I don’t know if I run on him…
by charles wallace on Apr 25, 2025 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
for many a catcher, the day that Billy Hamilton stole a base on him was the most important day of his life
But for Billy Hamilton, it was a Tuesday.
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
mike trout
3-4, 2B, 3B, 2RBI, 2BB. Up to .419 BA.
by rdf8585 on Apr 25, 2025 1:35 AM EDT reply actions
I wonder when he will be demoted to the Angels...
lol kids killing it.
Bring on the OREO Line!
by angelskid2210 on Apr 25, 2025 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
my man crush
is now borderline obsessive.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Apr 25, 2025 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else
expect him to get the call soon? Management has got to be feeling the pressure on doing something as the Angels have gotten off to a very lackluster start.
by RedHopeful on Apr 25, 2025 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
They built that roster
Like the dude in my fantasy league who doesn’t pay attention to his team 3/4 of the season.
Should we sign a bunch of free agent OF and 1B, given that our current talent is in the OF and 1B? Sure, why not? They already have 4 OF that either play or get paid like starters (Bourjos, Hunter, Wells, Abreu). The smart thing would just be to deal with Abreu as a sunken cost and see if you can’t convince Wells to consider starting at DH 1-2 times and OF 1-2 times a week. No one is taking them off your hands and they’re not helping you win.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Apr 25, 2025 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
"convince" Wells
No need to convince him, he gets paid either way.
by mrkupe on Apr 25, 2025 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrelton Simmons
Last night: 3-5, 2B, 2R, RBI
Last 3 games: 7-14, 3 2B, 3 R, 7 RBI, BB, SO
by nixa37 on Apr 25, 2025 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
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