Question About Uncommon Position Changes
So having watched Tiger collapse at Pebble this past Sunday, I got to thinking about other major collapses in professional sports. This inevitably led me to thinking about Rick Ankiel's famous "collapse" in the 2000 NLDS. I know that he floated around the minors for a few years, even making it back to the majors for a bit 2004. But in 2005, Ankiel made the full time switch to outfield and made it back to the majors in 2007.
This is the point where my thinking went into and entirely different direction. I know that position changes happen quite frequently while players are in the minors, but it seems to be primarily from either SS to 3B or 2B, or infield to outfield. This makes sense for the most part, because at least athletically most position players should be able to be serviceable at a new spot. But what about pitchers? They are an entirely different beast, and i feel the Ankiel is an exception, not the norm.
This led to a flurry of questions: How often are pitchers able to switch from pitching to playing a position successfully. What about vice versa? How often are position players put in a position pitch and succeed? Are there any big name cases either way? Also, currently in the minors, are there any pitchers who could succeed as an everyday player? And for position players, are there any currently who would be better served trying to make it as a pitcher?
I had all these questions and no real idea how to go about answering them. So I brought it to the one place where i feel I can best trust the collective knowledge. If anyone has any answers to some of these questions I would greatly appreciate the information.
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not very often, but does happen
but does happen from time to time.
Historically, just off the top of my head: Babe Ruth (obviously), Smokey Joe Wood was on his way to a HOF pitching career before he blew out his arm. He then had a run as a solid hitting OFer. Johnny LIndell started his career as a pitcher, then started as an OF on the great Yankee dynasty in the 40s, and he ended his career by returning to the mound for two seasons (I bet he’s the only one that went pitcher to hitter, back to pitcher). The great Don Newcombe, after arm troubles ended his career, attempted a comeback as a 1B (and actually played in Japan as a 1B for a few years).
Recently: Ankiel is the obvious, Brian Bogusevic made the move and may start in the OF this year for Houston. Joe Savery made the majors as a pitcher and is now trying to make it back as a OFer. Both Dontrelle Willis and Micah Owings received free agent interest this offseason as position players.
I’m sure there are more
by ScottAZ on Feb 15, 2026 8:59 AM EST reply actions
Every year
there are a handful of players that are very good as position players and pitchers. Just looking at the top of the recent drafts, Mike Moustakas was in the low 90’s with his arm. Matt Wieters was a reliever in college, Joe Savery was in that draft as well. Buster Posey pitched some for FSU, Aaron Hicks was looked at as a 1st round talent on the mound and still could end up there.
Every season there are a fe guys that have arm strength enough to be looked at on the mound but can hit as well. Typically these guys start off as hitters if there is enough potential with the bat. It is harder to hit after a long layoff from hitting that it is to get the arm strength to convert to the mound. Catchers, SS, 3B and OF are the most likely to convert to pitching due to the need for arm strength.
Matt Bush is a recent example of this as well as Sergio Santos. Joe Nathan and Tim Wakefield were both drafted as shortstops. Hell, Mark McGwire pitched in college.
Hitting a ball at a pro level is extremely difficult and players like Ankiel who can do it consistently as well as pitch at that level are extraordinary.
The only current MLB pitchers that I think could have had hitting careers are Livan Hernandez and Carlos Zambrano. I may be missing some but those are the two that jump out at me. There are quite a few position prospects who could end up on the mound and be useful relievers but we won’t know until it happens. Pedro Baez and Aaron Hicks are leading candidates in my mind who are decent hitting prospects currently.
Sorry for rambling.
by Matt Garrioch on Feb 15, 2026 9:54 AM EST reply actions
Micah Owings
could he handle the bat well enough over a full season to pull it off?
by insane_sanity on Feb 15, 2026 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think he could
Better than Zambrano or Hernandez. He was a bigshot power hitter in HS (set HR record, I believe).
by cookiedabookie on Feb 15, 2026 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Kenley Jansen
IIRC he was converted from either a catcher or infielder to a now a sleeper elite RP.
Santos also came to mind initially and was mentioned by Matt above
by BigG'S on Feb 15, 2026 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Brooks Kieschnick
Maybe he doesn’t quite match the criterion you set forth, but he was a relief pitcher, DH, outfielder, and pinch hitter for the Brewers in the early 2000s. Jack of all trades. Master of none.
by mini_tb on Feb 15, 2026 11:07 AM EST reply actions
Rangers example
Matt West was a third base prospect that couldn’t hit. The Rangers put him on the mound in Spring Training and he dominated the Northwest League to a tune of 36:1 K:BB in 26 IP thanks to an incredibly random plus Fastball/Slider combo
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by MonkeyEpoxy on Feb 15, 2026 11:16 AM EST reply actions
Tim Wakefield
1b/3b -→ knuckleballer for life
by insane_sanity on Feb 15, 2026 11:47 AM EST reply actions
Stan Musial
Was originally signed as a pitcher, but moved to the outfield in the minors.
by cookiedabookie on Feb 15, 2026 11:57 AM EST reply actions
I remember a couple of Dominican guys in
Julian Tavarez - He said in a interview that scouts went to see him as SS but they didn’t like him so he then went on the mound and signed.
Fransisco Liriano - He signed as an OF but the Giants moved him to the mound right away.
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by DominicanDandy on Feb 15, 2026 2:07 PM EST reply actions
Jurickson Profar
starred as a two-way player in the LLW and was seen as a better prospect on the mound but he wanted to hit and the Rangers wanted him to hit so far a good choice.
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by DominicanDandy on Feb 15, 2026 2:11 PM EST reply actions
Adam Loewen just did it.
Couldn’t find the strike zone as a pitcher, but did log over 160 Major League innings. Due to arm problems he switched to the outfield a couple years ago and even hit 306/377/508 last season in AAA before getting a small cup with the Blue Jays.
by Boxkutter on Feb 15, 2026 5:20 PM EST reply actions
James McDonald
was drafted as an outfielder and played there for a bit for the Dodgers.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Feb 15, 2026 6:21 PM EST reply actions
Anthony Gose
I remember when the Phillies drafted him, he was seen as a much better LHP prospect than he was an OF prospect. He signed pretty much with the stipulation that he’d be tried as an OF first. So far so good.
Still, if he can’t solve his problems with the K, it wouldn’t surprise me if he became a back end of the bullpen pitcher - he was supposed to be able to hit mid-to-upper 90s with his fastball.
by djromano on Feb 16, 2026 12:17 AM EST reply actions
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