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Minor League Notes, May 20th, 2011

Minor League Notes, May 20, 2025

**Tampa Bay prospect Matthew Moore had a fine start for Double-A Montgomery on May 15th, fanning eight in 5.1 innings, allowing one earned run on three hits and a walk. This gives him a 3.54 ERA on the year, but with an excellent set of components: 56/11 K/BB in 41 innings, just 31 hits. Home run troubles in his first few starts elevated his ERA, but he's made three starts now with 16 innings of work without being tagged again. Scouting reports on his stuff remain as positive as ever, and I still see him as a Grade A prospect.

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**San Diego Padres prospect Keyvius Sampson is breezing through the Midwest League, currently 6-1, 2.20 in eight starts for Fort Wayne, with a 49/16 K/BB in 41 innings and just 23 hits allowed. His command will wobble occasionally, but the K/IP and H/IP ratios testify to his quality stuff: low-to-mid-90s fastball, strong changeup, improving curveball. Best of all, he's been healthy so far after labrum and elbow problems cut his '10 season short. If he remains healthy the rest of the year, his talent and performance levels will merit a place on the Top 50 Pitching Prospects list.

**Baltimore Orioles prospect Wynn Pelzer had a fine start yesterday for Double-A Bowie, fanning five in five innings, allowing four hits and one walk, giving up one run. He now has a 3.38 ERA with a 34/22 K/BB in 40 innings, 33 hits allowed. Pelzer was acquired from the Padres last summer for Miguel Tejada. Although many scouts think he profiles best as a reliever, the Orioles are using him as a starter for now, hoping he can refine a changeup to go with his 92-96 MPH fastball and hard-breaking slider. His other issue is command, as you can see from his higher-than-ideal walk rate, and at age 25 he isn't young for Double-A. Still, Pelzer has the arm strength for success, and at worst he'll get a shot in a bullpen eventually if the changeup doesn't come around.

**Many scouts rated Colorado Rockies prospect Tyler Matzek as the top high school pitching prospect in the 2009 draft, though he lasted until 11th overall due to his bonus demands. Although he posted a 2.92 ERA in Low-A last year, he also walked 62 guys in 89 innings, and command was a big question for him heading into 2011. It's turned from a big question into a massive problem: he's walked 36 in 27 innings for High-A Modesto, also giving up 26 hits for a dismal 9.22 ERA. Matzek has fanned 31 so he's kept his strikeouts high, but the walks are killing him. The trouble seems to be a combination of factors, with mechanical problems and a loss of confidence snowballing into a disastrous season. Matzek is still just 20 years old, and as long as there is not an underlying issue with his arm, he has plenty of time to rebound. However, hopes that he could fast-track to Colorado were seriously misplaced.

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John, what are your thoughts on Jennings?

He is showing moe power than ever.

by mr. maniac on May 20, 2025 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Many scouts rated Colorado Rockies prospect Tyler Matzek as the top high school pitching prospect in the 2009 draft, though he lasted until 11th overall due to his bonus demands.

I don’t believe that it’s true that Matzek fell solely due to his salary demands. While it is almost certainly true that at least 1 team passed on him due to his demands and hijinx, I’m positive that both the Giants and the Tigers thought that Zack Wheeler and Jacob Turner were actually better pitching prospects than Matzek.

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by Fla-Giant on May 20, 2025 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well....

He said “many scouts”, not that he was the consensus top high school prospect, so I didn’t read it that the sole reason he fell was his bonus demands.

And to give you your due, i know that Detroit definitely was on Turner from the get-go, they definitely had him as the #1 high school arm.

by drwmsu1 on May 20, 2025 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. My objection was for the “He fell to the #11 spot due to salary demands” part. I’m not arguing the part about many scouts rating him the top HS pitcher in the draft.

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by Fla-Giant on May 21, 2025 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why is that objectionable?

Ten teams passed on him for him to get to 11, and you’ve only named two. Something similar could well happen with Bundy this year, and the fact that two teams might believe Guerrieri and Bradley are superior talents in contrast to general consensus doesn’t have anything to do with the effect of Bundy’s alleged demands on his draft position.

by blackoutyears on May 23, 2025 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moore pitched last night.

His line was 6-4-1-1-2-9. 5 GO/3 FO. His problem has been his inability to go beyond the 5th or 6th inning, it seems. Despite his improvement in BB rates, few hits allowed and the fact that he has a good strike rate, he always throws a lot of pitches. Last night he threw 96 pitches, 62 for strikes. He often throws 90+ in 5 innings.

by bobr on May 21, 2025 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

That's really nitpicking at this point

He has plenty of time to learn to be more efficient. So long as he keeps throwing strikes, it’s good progress.

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by Jeff Reese on May 21, 2025 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

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To add to your point, very few MLB pitchers consistently pitch 7+ innings. If he can give the Rays 6 innings on avg, that’s probably plenty for the first year or two at least.

by Dfarth on May 21, 2025 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

my own lesson learned

Bob’s argument is one I used quite frequently when I was (unduly sanctimoniously) preaching that Chad Billingsley was overrated as a prospect because he always labored too much, never got deep in games, and it was going to limit his value as a big-leaguer.
Turns out:
The Dodgers were pushing him on throwing his offspeed stuff in hitters counts and therefore artificially driving up his pitch counts some;
All those scouts were right that he was going to fill out a bit more and be able to take a heavier load; and
Only six guys have worked more innings in the NL since the start of the 2008 season.

I’m not saying Moore’s pitch counts absolutely aren’t a problem looking forward, but I’m less inclined to believe they’re a problem than I was five years ago too.

by realitypolice on May 23, 2025 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turner vs. Moore

Just did one of these on Turner (very positive) and now Moore (also very positive). Looking at your 2011 pitcher rankings, if you remove the graduates from the mix that would put Moore at #1 and Turner at #2 among AL pitching prospects going into this season. Is that still how you have it?

by Dalman on May 21, 2025 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I wasn't impressed with the trade

When the O’s got Pelzer, I thought there were better names out there. But a solid 4th-5th starter or quality MR isn’t a bad projection. And it seems like his odds of failing are pretty low.

by ADLC on May 21, 2025 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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