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Slade Heathcott Attacks Catcher

    If you followed the 2009 draft at all, you may remember that part of the reason Texas high school outfielder Slade Heathcott lasted until the 29th overall pick, despite excellent tools, was due to concerns about his makeup, unsettled life, and volatile personality. 
    It seems he still has some work to do on anger management.
    Playing for Charleston in the Sally League last night, he got hit by a pitch last night in a game against Greenville and reacted by attacking the catcher.
    Ironically, as Baseball America's Ben Badler points out, Heathcott had just been profiled in the Charleston Post and Courier in a positive article discussing his off-the-field troubles and how he's worked to overcome them. Yankees officials have been saying for some time that Heathcott, who came from a difficult (to say the least) family environment, has made a lot of progress with his maturity level and that they weren't worried about him long-term, especially given his intensity on the field.
     Heathcott was hitting .312/.396/.504 for Charleston, making significant progress refining his tools. We'll have to see what the long-term fallout is for his career.

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that catcher

could definantly use a few beginning boxing classes.
and that’s a pretty crappy tattoo on heathcotts arm.

by notsukao on May 14, 2025 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

why scare quotes?

that not qualify as a fight?

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 14, 2025 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because baseball "fights" generally result in a bunch of guys standing around.

This is an exception, hence the comment. Personally, I’d love it if more guys got into it, but they don’t. Makes the whole thing seem pointless.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 15, 2025 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

HOW'S YOUR WIFE DOING?

I’ve read in more than one place that during a baseball fight the appropriate thing for a veteran to do is to run up to one of his buddies on the opposing team, grab him by the collar and yell “How’s the wife doing? How ’bout the kids?” Then they talk while in mock shoving match.

by KSM on May 15, 2025 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Jacobs

Was that who had Heathcott in the headlock? I would not mess with Brandon Jacobs.

Someone get Heathcott tested for steroids. That was ridiculous.

by delmonfan on May 14, 2025 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes it was

He is a hard man.

Brandon Jacobs of Lowell > Brandon Jacobs of NYG

by Lesterfan on May 14, 2025 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh? steroids?

where does that come from? prior bad blood between the teams, likely some shit talked before the game, heathcott is a messed up individual. baseball players got into fights long before steroids or whatever existed.

by larry on May 14, 2025 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roid rage he meant I'm guessing

since he got set off by virtually nothing.

Brandon Jacobs became one of my favorite prospects after that.

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by Pelferized on May 14, 2025 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looked like Roid Rage to me

As scared as Heathcott I am after watching that, and he seemed like a meth-crazed madman, Jacobs had him in a headlock and looked like he wasn’t even breaking a sweat.

Heathcott pushed the catcher into the ump - he’s looking at a big suspension.

by delmonfan on May 14, 2025 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

 Read an interview about him and see how effed up his life was due to his parents. You people criticizing him are pathetic. Yes it was a bad thing to do but jesus christ people act like baseball fights never happen. Is the catcher going to get a pass for saying whatever sh*t he obviously said?

World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.

by Drizzzy on May 14, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, the catcher does get a pass

If the catcher said something, I’m sure the home plate ump heard it too, so I’m sure he’ll get a punishment. But give me a break…

It is professional baseball. Players are required to put up with trash talk from fans and sometimes opposing players. That is part of the game.

I bet you didn’t give Elijah Dukes or Delmon the same benefit of the doubt.

by delmonfan on May 14, 2025 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are responsible for your actions.

Period.

This includes whatever the catcher did. But don’t equate the two events. If the catcher threatened Heathcott or conspired with the pitcher to intentionally hit Heathcott with a baseball for some reason, then they’ve committed a similar level of assault. If they didn’t, and all the catcher did was jaw at him, then Heathcott overreacted.

Don’t defend someone just because he had a shitty upbringing. He may be the victim of his parents’ abuse, but he is still his own human being and fully capable of making decisions that effect his own future.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 15, 2025 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is a pitcher who hits a batter

responsible for his actions as well? Just curious. I’d put throwing an object 90 MPH at someone and hitting someone with a fist on the same level.

by TCapone30 on May 15, 2025 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not disagreeing.

The question is, as always, intent. Shit happens in this game and more than one player has been drilled by an errant pitch. But anybody who deliberately throws an object at you at high speeds is trying to cause harm. That’s just about the definition of assault.

It is forgiven because… “it’s just a game”. Do that in real life and see where you end up. Just saying.

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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 15, 2025 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

he thought he was deliberately hit.

and he had good reason to think so. should that mean you start a fight? of course not. but it’s not like this is the first time in the history of baseball someone has taken exception to being hit.

and roid rage is a myth.

by larry on May 14, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's stupid

guy was obviously being thrown out in his POV, why go after the pitcher, when the catcher is in on it too…if you intentionally want to hit someone, someone is going to pay …

by Longhorn on May 16, 2025 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love that players still act like 1,000’s of people are not going to watch something like this. Escobar throws a double axe handle and a great half volley kick to someone’s kidneys, then he steps back and acts like he wasn’t in the fight.

by NMUWildcat027 on May 14, 2025 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Great fight, don’t know the backdrop of the whole issue, but IDK if the whole reaction was warranted. I will never mess with either 1) Heathcock 2) Jacobs

by Cesar V on May 14, 2025 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Well I'm glad we aren't

jumping to conclusions without knowing the entire story, facts and situation. Oh wai…

World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.

by Drizzzy on May 14, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I bet you think this would be justified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78wwGbijFXw

World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.

by Drizzzy on May 14, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I love how he’s standing in the middle of the diamond surrounded by the opposing team for a few seconds. I can only imagine what was going through his head at that point.

by rmarx on May 16, 2025 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

How can you say this without knowing the back story here?

Like others have pointed out, baseball fights happen. It’s not like Heathcott has a habit of fighting.

Is something wrong with every MLB player that has also taken objection to being hit with a pitch?

by deezle on May 15, 2025 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some things not clear

1) was the pitch going at his head? If so, his actions become significantly more justified. If not, the reaction wasn’t even remotely justified.

2) I am guessing the catcher and Heathcott have some sort of a history together…but who knows maybe Heathcott is just nuts.

by Jack203 on May 14, 2025 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The way he went straight for catcher

I think the catcher must have said something to him - probably told him they were going to hit him.

by cookiedabookie on May 14, 2025 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

You can tell by the catchers reaction that theres more to this than we know. If this was a psychotic meltdown temper tantrum like you are all saying the catcher would have been like what the f was that. I’ve played hockey my entire life.. when you get sucker punched and you dont know why theres a moment of “whoa whats going on here this guy is psycho.” The catcher got hit immediately turned around and swung back. So in my opinion there has to be a bit of a backstory. Also if you ask me the guys like Escobar that run into a fray and start stomping on people are the ones with real character issues.

by MikePrz on May 14, 2025 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

not that im trying to act like what im saying is right. its just my .02

by MikePrz on May 14, 2025 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%
Also if you ask me the guys like Escobar that run into a fray and start stomping on people are the ones with real character issues.

I’m shocked everyone is discussing Heathcott but ignoring Escobar. He’s the one that should be seriously punished, IMO.

by deezle on May 15, 2025 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

f-in A

what a punk that guy is

by PrincetonCubs on May 15, 2025 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realize he'd destroy me with half a punch.

That said:

1. Redneck.

2. Redneck tattoos.

by SenorGato on May 15, 2025 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Maybe the Yankees could do what the Rays did with Delmon Young,...

and trade him for a prospect who turns into a semi-stud starter.

by SenorGato on May 15, 2025 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

29th round pick.

Do you think anybody would take him? 30 teams had ample time to take him. They knew his talent and still ignored him due to makeup issues. It’s pretty telling.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 15, 2025 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

No, FIRST ROUND PICK, 29th overall

by John Sickels on May 15, 2025 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

29th overall pick

So teams basically had one chance to pick him. I’m sure his strong commitment to LSU dissuaded some cash strapped teams from popping him in the first. No one is denying he wasn’t a first round talent, but throw in the potential character concerns and that isn’t a risk many teams would take in the first.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on May 15, 2025 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops. Read that all wrong.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 15, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suspend him for at least 10 games and mandatory counseling

What he did was pretty terrible but at least he didn’t club the catcher with the bat. We don’t know what was being said between him and the catcher but regardless, you can’t act in the manner in which he did. I think by giving him a reasonable suspension with mandatory anger management counseling, baseball and the Yankees would be doing this young man a favor by helping him conquer his personal anguish.

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by King Billy Royal on May 15, 2025 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

The title should probably read

“Slade Heathcott attacks Catcher only after Pitcher and Catcher attempt premeditated head shot”

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on May 15, 2025 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you sure it was premeditated?

Sometimes a ball just gets away from a guy. Also, if the pitcher tossed it, it doesn’t mean the catcher knew he would.

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by King Billy Royal on May 15, 2025 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

There had to be some sort of issue prior to the AB

No way he would explode like that out of nowhere

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by hero66 on May 15, 2025 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know?

I am not saying that he didn’t have an issue, but at this time we don’t really know the circumstances. Speculating as to why he did it, isn’t really fair to the pitcher and the catcher. It is more important to judge what he did and to get him some help. Besides, getting beaned is part of the game and the pitcher hit him in the back, which is where you are supposed to bean guys according to managers. He should have either let his pitcher even the score, or charge the pitcher and not take a cheap shot at a still crouching catcher.

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by King Billy Royal on May 15, 2025 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

the teams had words last time they met.

there were prior issues here. whether they were intentionally trying to hit him is only known by the players. but it’s not like heathcott had no reason to think it was intentional.

by larry on May 15, 2025 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're supposed to bean guys in the back

Not in the shoulder blade where he can duck into it and possibly take it off the face or head. He even stood there like he knew it was coming, no attempt to get out of the way.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on May 15, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looked to me like he hit him in the back

Perhaps I am wrong, but that is what I saw. Besides, if he didn’t even try to get out of the way than he is partially responsible. People need to stop blaming the victim in this situation.

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by King Billy Royal on May 15, 2025 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

They should stop blaming Heathcott.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on May 15, 2025 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should stop blaming Heathcott.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on May 15, 2025 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since you are a Yankee fan I think I know why you feel that way

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by King Billy Royal on May 15, 2025 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arguing against the premeditation theory...

is that the Catcher sits in his crouch after the pitch instead of popping up to guide the batter to 1B. He clearly has no idea Heathcott is going to react like that - nor does he make the obvious assumption that he’s going to charge the mound.

Anyone who has played catcher or watched a lot of baseball can tell you the first thing a catcher does after an intended HBP is to jump up and keep the batter from charging the mound. I’m thinking this was a pitch that got away… though that doesn’t preclude previous bad blood or Heathcott having reason to think it was intentional.

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by alskor on May 15, 2025 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

I made a similar point that he attacked a crouching catcher. I find it weird that so many people on this site are always quick to excuse the attacker and instead blame the victim for the actions.

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by King Billy Royal on May 15, 2025 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair there is plenty of blame to go around here.

A good number of young men embarrassed themselves in that brawl. I’d hand out lots of suspensions, though I do believe Heathcott deserves the worst of it for inciting this.

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by alskor on May 15, 2025 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

don’t see why it was automatically suggested that it was Slade that started it

by Longhorn on May 16, 2025 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhh

Maybe because he clocked the catcher out of nowhere?

by delmonfan on May 16, 2025 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Premediated head shot"

I assume that if Kevin Youkilis reacted that way after Joba buzzed him multiple time (back when Joba could pitch), you’d adopt the same stance?

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by nuthinboutnuthin on May 17, 2025 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

escobar

escobar appears to have kicked slade at least once

What is the youngest you can die of old age?

by ralu25 on May 15, 2025 4:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Also

at 58 seconds into the clip, you see some Sox players laughing about it. Seems like it was planned to provoke the guy. Kind of shitty on all fronts.

by TCapone30 on May 15, 2025 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny

There is some seriously circular logic on display here.

“Slade’s crazy!”
“He’s not crazy, he was provoked.”
“How do you know?”
“Only a crazy person would attack like that unprovoked.”

by EinNH on May 15, 2025 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

idea

Totally unsubstantiated idea:

What if someone on the Greenville team read that article Friday morning and decided, “hey, let’s buzz Heathcott with a pitch in the first inning and see how healed from his past he really is”.

by John Sickels on May 15, 2025 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

re

I know I’m wrong but… I honestly can’t accept that someone [Slade] would act like that unless they were expecting the provocation. I’m curious to see his side of the story. It won’t excuse his behavior, but he was probably getting taunted all game… A little anecdote from a similar story about myself.

I played travel soccer growing up and am from a predominately Jewish area. One season when I was in high school, our opposition was calling me and my teammates a Jew and other discriminatory terms. Towards the end of the game one player was taunting me and he just happened to get the ball and was dribbling down the sideline and a cracked him in his jaw with my right elbow and knocked him out cold. I subsequently asked his teammate, “Who he was calling fucking Jews.” I got a red card and was suspended. When the league brought me in to discuss what I did and more specifically why I was making racial slurs about Jews. I explained to them the situation and my suspension was lifted.

What I did was immature, inappropriate and the taunts don’t excuse my actions. Similarly, if Slade was being taunted about something that was very personal to him, while not excusing his actions, it would at least put them in context.

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by JD Sussman on May 15, 2025 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

The guy pointed a gun at his dad! Why are we giving him so much benefit of the doubt here?

One of the articles mentioned that there was bad blood between the teams from their series three weeks ago. Wouldn’t the simpler explanation be a routine retaliatory hit?

by delmonfan on May 15, 2025 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Said the same thing to my friend

kind of wondered if they were ragging on him before the game because of the article, trying to get in his head, and then it escalated into the beaning

by PrincetonCubs on May 15, 2025 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it causes him to get himself ejected...

… why not?

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by nuthinboutnuthin on May 17, 2025 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats was dumb

he pushes the catcher twice and then wraps up his legs, and thats about it. looks like the catcher was the only one who got a punch in, though it didnt look like it connected all that well. also I’m with everyone else on that tattoo.

by pack_fan on May 15, 2025 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Reactions

Man, these are too funny. It’s good to see that completely blind fan loyalty is at play here. “How can you say that without knowing the backstory?!” is my favorite so far.

by whonichol on May 16, 2025 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

As a high school coach I've never had anyone charge a mound

But I have had guys that get hit that get really mad. Even if there are runners on and it’s a curveball. They just have anger issues and I could see one or two of them snapping if they had no cares in the world.

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by 306008 on May 17, 2025 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Heathcott's Blow Up

Over the past year or so, I’ve spoken to a number of contacts about Heathcott, as well as scouted him in person.

Last season, no contacts I spoke to were really on Heathcott as “a guy”. For those who aren’t very familiar with scout lingo, “a guy” is the term used for future major leaguer. This year, I’ve been told he has improved in all aspects and now looks like a big league regular at his peak.

I’ve also heard differing views about Heathcott’s makeup which have ranged from “He’s crazy” to “Don’t let the tattoos fool you, he’s a good kid.” One thing NOBODY argues is how hard Heathcott plays the game of baseball.

I’ve also heard a little about the back story and that the catcher and Heathcott had previously exchanged words. In addition, I scouted the pitcher who hit Heathcott (Celestino) and can honestly say the kid’s aim just isn’t that good.

With that said, Heathcott is the 1st round pick here. He received over 2 million dollars to represent the Yankees organization on and off the field. In this instance, Heathcott represented himself and the organization in a very poor way and torpedoed whatever trade value he has after doing so much to recover it over his first 100+ plate appearances. The kid snapped. And from somebody who has worked some in mental health, that’s a bit scary. As much as I am not a Yankees fan, a 2+ million investment should return more value.

Vazquez, Escobar, and Celestino are three guys whose careers will probably end with this fight being their claim to fame. Escobar acted especially sleezy, but the kid signed for less than a few thousand and might find himself back in the DSL, or exiled from the org. altogether. The Red Sox have very little invested there so oh well. Cut losses and move onto the next guy.

That’s the difference in a nutshell. Whether fair or not, Heathcott IS held to a higher standard because he received the big bonus. With that kind of money comes responsibility.

by ScoutingTheSally on May 19, 2025 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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