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Prospect Retro: Ryan Sweeney

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Oakland Athletics outfielder Ryan Sweeney (AP Photo/Ben Margot)


Prospect Retro: Ryan Sweeney

Per reader request, here is a prospect retro for Oakland Athletics outfielder Ryan Sweeney.

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Ryan Sweeney was drafted by the Chicago White Sox in the second round in 2003, out of high school in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Iowa high schools don't play a spring schedule, and his cold-weather background likely cost him the first round. Scouts rated him as a relatively refined hitter considering his lack of experience, citing good strike zone judgment, bat speed, and untapped (but substantial) power potential. He also had a good arm and ran well for a 6-4, 200 pounder. The Sox sent him to Bristol in the Appalachian League after he signed; he hit .313/.387/.448 in 19 games, then was moved up to Great Falls in the Pioneer League, where he hit .353/.389/.412 in 10 contests. I gave him a Grade B- in the '04 book, though I also pointed out that I am sometimes biased in favor of Midwesterners and Iowans.

The White Sox gave Sweeney an aggressive assignment for 2004: Winston-Salem in the Carolina League, at age 19. He held his own, hitting .283/.342/.379, not showing much power but making a lot of contact with a 40/65 BB/K in 515 at-bats. Scouts praised his hitting mechanics and zone command, but there were mixed opinions about when/if/how his power would develop, though of course he was young for the competition. He also grew an inch, listed at 6-5, 200. I gave him a Grade B, cutting him some slack for the lack of power due to his youth.

The Sox remained aggressive with him in '05, sticking him in Double-A, where he hit .298/.357/.371 for Birmingham, with just one homer but a 35/53 BB/K in 429 at-bats. The lack of power remained notable, but there was little change in his BB/K ratio despite playing Double-A at age 20. He also drew notice for improved outfield play in right. I gave him another Grade B, but was concerned that the White Sox were pushing him too rapidly and that it could short-circuit his development.

Still on the fast track, he moved up to Triple-A for 2006 at age 21. He hit .296/.350/.452, showing greater power with 13 homers and maintaining his excellent contact rates. He got into 18 games with the White Sox, hitting .229/.229/.229. Once again I gave him a Grade B, and was hopeful that the power would stick, though I saw him as a future 15-homer hitter, not a guy who could slug 30.

Sweeney remained in Triple-A for 2007 but was less effective, hitting .270/.348/.398. He hit .200/.265/.333 in 15 games for the Sox. Concerned about the performance slippage despite repeating the league, I lowered his rating to a Grade C+ in the '08 book. That might have been too aggressive: B- would have been a better rating in retrospect. He was traded to Oakland just before the book went to press.

Sweeney hit .286/.350/.383 in '08 for the Athletics, losing rookie status. Last year he improved slightly to .293/.348/.407.  He is off to a good start this year at .307/.350/.387, with a 103 OPS+ through 42 games. In his career he's a .287/.342/.397 hitter, 96 OPS+.  His right field defense is well-regarded.

Sweeney has proven he can hit for a good batting average in the majors as well as he did in the minors. He doesn't draw tons of walks, but he doesn't strike out much either. The question remains the same as it has always been: can he add additional power and emerge as a more traditional corner outfielder?

The jury is still out. He's still big and strong, and the fact that he makes such easy contact gives him a chance; many surprise-outburst type players have similar profiles at this age. But there are also plenty of examples of players who don't  develop the expected power.

Historical Comparisons:

Sim Scores through age 24:  Sam West, Coco Crisp, Rich Coggins, Alexis Rios, Terry Moore, Happy Felsch, Johnny Rucker, Bobby Bonilla, Derrick May, and Ken Landreaux.

PECOTA Comps: Matt Murton, Derrick May, Alex Ochoa, Magglio Ordonez, Jeff Abbott, Jacob Cruz, Pedro Valdes, Jeff Francouer, Juan Rivera, and Tommy Gregg. Garret Anderson is 11th.

There is some hope for more power here, as the Rios, Ordonez, and Anderson examples show.  Keep in mind that Sweeney is still just 25, two or three years away from his prime power window. My personal guess is that he will hit for more power eventually, but that my 2007 projection of 15-homer power at his peak is where he'll end up.

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I'd be surprised if he added power

Dude just doesn’t have the swing for it and makes waaay too much weak contact for me.

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by hero66 on May 26, 2025 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

He is what he is. Pretty good. Not sure there’s anything else to see here.

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by alskor on May 26, 2025 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweeney is stubborn and unwilling to change his approach

“I like playing here,” Sweeney said. “It’s relaxed, and I haven’t had one person say anything about my swing or try to change anything. I’ve made minor adjustments, but with the White Sox, everyone would tell me to change my swing every single day.”

How does Sweeney see himself as a hitter?

“More of a gap-to-gap guy,” he said. “When I’m going good, I’m spraying the ball all over the field. If I’m going bad, I’m pulling everything. When I was younger, I was always taught to hit the ball the other way and react to the inside pitch. I’ve always hit up the middle and away a lot better than pulling the ball, but I pull when I need to.”

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/05/21/SP011DI7H3.DTL#ixzz0p5acrLo0

by Asfan4ever723 on May 26, 2025 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, Sweeney won't change is approach

He has the build of a power hitter. He has power potential. But he has the swing of a slap hitter.

Until he changes from Slap hitting to a solid swing, he will remain what he is.

by Zonis on May 26, 2025 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

A slap hitter? When I think of slap hitters, I think of Ichiro - THIS doesn’t look like a “slap hitter” swing to me:

by oakballnack on May 27, 2025 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you notice

that he has no “loading” phase in his swing. That is he doesn’t negatively rotate his hips or move his hands back into a launch position before he starts his swing. He just moves forward from a neutral position in his stance… he gives himself no opportunity to build rotational velocity. Nor does he have much separation between the rotation of his hips and his shoulders.

His swing looks max effort-ish solely because of how he “pull the nob” and leans back when his bat head is passing through the zone.

Like Rick Bosetti my goal in life is not to do well but to piss on things.

by mudie on May 27, 2025 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch the Utley clip

for an example of a hitter who does a good job loading.

Like Rick Bosetti my goal in life is not to do well but to piss on things.

by mudie on May 27, 2025 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem, as people here are pointing out, is that Sweeney doesn't use that swing NEARLY enough

Because most of the time he’s trying to inside-out pitches he should be hitting 400 feet.

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by thejd44 on May 27, 2025 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This what Sweeney will be

Play well above average defense in any OF spot.
Hit around .280-300 avg
League avg bat
Project for a .730-.750 OPS
This is assuming he stays a similar player as he is now in his age 25 season.
I see him as a similar player projection to mark kotsay version in oakland with hopefully less injuries.
It will be interesting to see if they move Sweeney back to CF in 2011 if rajai davis proves he’s not the long term choice, Corey Brown continues to struggle in AAA, and losing Grant Desme to retirement

by MagicMike23 on May 27, 2025 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. That's exactly what I think of when someone says "slap hitter."

That’s a slappy swing. Doesn’t load much at all. No weight change. Comes down with no force on his step. Its only because the pitch is so low that he finishes up a bit and makes it look more normal. That’s a pretty bad swing for a MLB OFer.

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by alskor on May 27, 2025 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coco Crisp!

Wouldn’t have guessed that comparison.

Does his swing and approach to hitting mean he’s never going to hit for power? It’s a pretty large assumption that he’s never going to change his hitting approach (intentionally or unintentionally), and the discussion about his future decisions seems largely based on one quote where all he does is express that he’s happy people don’t bug him about his form. Seems to me there are three equally-likely outcomes down the line: he stays exactly the same forever; he gets more comfortable hitting ML pitching and naturally starts hitting the ball harder; he gets bored/frustrated/greedy/etc. and decides he wants to start hitting for more power, so he adapts his swing and/or hitting approach.

by SagehenMacGyver47 on May 27, 2025 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, he won't ever hit for power with his current swing/approach

And since the team he’s currently on isn’t asking him to change, it’s reasonable to think he won’t hit for power as long as he’s playing in Oakland.

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by thejd44 on May 28, 2025 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  


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