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What a man does for pay is of little significance. What he is, as a sensitive instrument responsive to the world's beauty, is everything!----H.P. Lovecraft
Let your soul stand cool and composed before a million universes---Walt Whitman
Very off-topic here, but this has been on my mind lately.
For those humans blessed and cursed with a measure of introspection, there are two basic responses when faced with the magnificent desolation of the Cosmos, with the manifold wonders, the intricate beauties, and the comfort-stripping terrors therein.
There is the Lovecraftian response of horror at the insignificance of mankind's place in the Universe, both on the individual and species level. Lovecraft felt that the deepest human emotion was Fear, and he wrote most of his fiction around this theme.
At the opposite pole, there is the Whitmanian response of awe and splendor, Whitman seeing unbounded Love and infinite creativity as the core nature of the Universe. This response infused all of his poetry, giving his work a mystic-yet-material sensibility.
I lean to Whitman, but I have enough Lovecraft in me to make myself miserable at times. We all fight this battle between Fear and Love within our hearts. But life is short and fragile, and wasting time wallowing in fear just adds entropy. Shall I add to the misery and suffering of the universe today, or shall I subtract from it and add some Love? That is the choice we all face when we get up in the morning.
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doesn't matter
It doens’t matter. If it’s not one thing, it’s another. lol.
by John Sickels on May 13, 2025 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It is too easy to be negative...
You see so many people, including on this site, who love to focus on the negative as opposed to the positive. Personally with things that have happened in my life in the past few years, from having cancer to losing some of the people closest to me, I have come to realize that life is pretty amazing. Sure there are things that we all don’t like, but instead of bitching about them why not make a change? You hate your job; get a new job. You hate your spouse; leave your spouse. You hate Paul Thomas; well….that is unavoidable.
I guess when you have had to consider your mortality in this world, you learn that for most part fear is a hindrance that stops you from realizing true happiness. Most people don’t sit and think about the things they regretted doing; they think about the things they regretted passing up. I have always found that by putting love first, you will live a fuller life undoubtedly be happier.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on May 13, 2025 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
well said
We have a choice everyday to either live in fear or love. Celebrate the small things in your life, those are the things that tend to matter the most.
PPPPPPUNTO 4 MVP 2010
by punto4mvp on May 14, 2025 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
sounds to me
at least from those quotes, that although they come from different perspectives, the prescriptions that follow from their philosophies are remarkably similar. Being open to experiences and compassionate towards others.
by son.of.sourman on May 13, 2025 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
Fear and Wonder
I fear dying because I don’t want to miss any of the wonder. To me, the two are forever linked. Life is so beautiful, even with all its pain and misery, that I can’t bear the thought of losing it, fading into nothingness and never having consciousness again. I don’t even like sleeping sometimes because of this. I want to be conscious.
Then, when it’s time to get up in the morning I just want to sleep more, of course.
Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam
by t ball on May 13, 2025 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
If you have exciting dreams...
You can sleep without missing out on the wonder!
by oplaid on May 13, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Existential Depression
I suffer from it, makes living life hell. I wish I could be like other people who are ignorant and only worry about petty problems. My mind is too intelligent for its own good. Blah
by Lurkingoutside on May 13, 2025 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
Live to love
I have rarely experienced great fear. On that side of the spectrum(which is useful) I am guided away from shame. I see so much of what constant fear or doubt do to a person and I don’t follow suit.
On the other and more powerful side in my personality I am guided by my passions. I try and bring up my friends and family. Positivity breads happiness and other like people. And vice versa living with fear.
Following joy may not be a perfect road for everyone but the experience is less tragic than being afraid to travel it. I think most people are much closer to either spectrum if they really thought about it. Each thought, one way or the other, leads to similar thoughts. The thoughts become a perspective of the world you see and eventually that perspective becomes your personality and way of life.
My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.
by Shamus on May 13, 2025 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Or...it is all inconsequential..
I’m not that concerned with the vastness of the cosmos, nor our (in)significance.
But, there is not a black and white choice between fear and love. For one, fear often coincides with love, as the threat of losing what one loves is the source of most (if not all) fear. But, there are many other ways of orienting ourselves towards the world around us than those two possibilities.
by turambar85 on May 13, 2025 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
Don't worry... Be happy
Simplest solution is to watch American Beauty. There is so many amazing things in our world how can you not be happy?
As for our insignificance in the grand scheme of the cosmos we’ll never experience that on a personal level as we are too concerned with our own lives.
It’s not like some deity is going to personally appear in front of us to remind us we are only one of six billion and we don’t matter. Of course we matter just in our small segment in our world. But imagine this: let’s say some network does a Story about you after you die. In some lame grim world people may think ‘who cares’. But the truth is someone who you never knew would probably feel bad you had passed. Now imagine how the people who know you would feel. That’s pretty powerful.
Sure out of 6 billion And the universe as a whole we don’t mean much. But I bet mean a lot more to those we know and don’t know than we realize.
Carlos Quentin's time has arrived.
by Team Moneyball on May 14, 2025 2:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Each and every one of the 6 billion
is significant. Each person stands or falls based on his or her choices. It is a contest between good and evil and we decide where we stand individually. What we do is important and either aids good or helps evil.
DESPAIR ABOUT OUR POSITION IGNORES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL.
We can impact our own lives and the lives of others by the actions we take.
by dbacks watcher on May 14, 2025 8:54 AM EDT reply actions
Love is the only end
Fear is easy. And boring. Loving in the face of fear is the existential equivalent of nutting up.
by ToddyBaseball on May 14, 2025 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
Love and fear...
That isn’t even a proper dichotomy, though. We don’t say that we can love OR fear in the exclusive sense. The reasonable alternative to love it hate or bitterness….and to fear is courage or fortitude.
What would loving in the face of fear mean? What is the reference of your love? The thing feared? The fear itself? The former doesn’t annihilate the fear, as often fear is directed towards the potential loss of love. The latter doesn’t eliminate the fear, either, as it becomes the object of your affection as a source of trial.
by turambar85 on May 14, 2025 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The Love-Fear continuum
Wasn’t this what Patrick Swayze’s charlatan of a character was trying to peddle in Donnie Darko?
I agree with what turambar85 says. Fear may inform your love, or vice-versa, but they don’t exist as a dichotomy.
by B.S.Blues on May 16, 2025 9:48 AM EDT reply actions
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