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Today is the signing deadline for 2009 draftees. I'm travelling today, so use this thread to discuss things as they happen.

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Nats apparently offer Strasburg 17 million

plus easily obtainable incentives to take him to 20 million. If this is true, there might be some late night posturing, but it would be pretty hard for the kid to turn down 20 million. This one looks like it’ll get done. A side note, seems like Strasburg’s irritated some of his potential new teammates. Not sure if anyone read what Ryan Zimmerman had to say, but it wasn’t very complimentary.

Tate - Pads picked him, so they better pony up the cash.

Ackley - Haven’t heard much on this front.

by MightyMoose on Aug 17, 2025 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Strasburg

He’ll sign. Boras doesn’t have anything to gain by letting him sit out a year. It won’t get done until 11:59, but I’d be shocked if he isn’t a National by Tuesday.

by jar75 on Aug 17, 2025 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Jon Heyman said the Nationals’ offer was around $12.5 million.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/08/17/nationals.strasburg/

That won’t get it done.

by woobie on Aug 17, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think about it

What does Strasburg or Boras gain by not signing a contract? Unless he has found a new loophole that will get Strasburg declared a free agent, he’ll only be hurting his return. He’s already been selected 1.1, and it’s not like a big spending team is in line for next year’s top pick.

Will the Pirates give Strasburg his $25M+? Will the Royals? Both teams are willing to spend money, but I doubt either will give Boras more than the Nats will this year. So, by not signing he’ll lose a year of development, risk injury and will probably get a worse offer because of less leverage.

by jar75 on Aug 17, 2025 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re

and Bryce will be in the mix next year

by rmarx01 on Aug 17, 2025 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

deal in place

with tate. deal was done last week, but pads were asked to hold off announcing signing until deadline

by ScottAZ on Aug 17, 2025 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I think his signing was a foregone conclusion as soon as he left UNC football camp.

Are we hearing anything new on Everett Williams yet? He wanted a nice chunk of change to sign, but it didn’t sound like the sides were that far apart, and with Tate done I assume they’ll get something done.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heard

pads nabbed both williams and keyvious Sampson. williams deal was done last week but hasn’t been announced. sampson deal finished yesterday but not announced yet

by ScottAZ on Aug 17, 2025 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards close w/ Shelby Miller

Reportedly in STL for physical, maybe they are going to give him the 4 million he was seeking. Anybody else think this kid might be a fast-riser through the system?

by St.Steve on Aug 17, 2025 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless I'm overlooking someone....

I think Miller automatically is the Cards #1 prospect with Wallace gone. Which puts him in position to potentially move fast, with good performance and development of a 3rd pitch(change up?).

by Kerm on Aug 17, 2025 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

#1

i think he will be #1 for the cards. other contenders would be jaime garcia, daryl jones and wagner mateo. injuries to jones have hurt his stock. garcia is coming off TJ…looks good so far but most dont think he has as high of a ceiling as miller. however, he he is much closer to the majors than miller which might give him an edge is some people’s eyes. given the lack of first hand scouting reports, publications would likely put miller over the younger mateo.

by dmb60614 on Aug 17, 2025 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wagner Mateo is unlikely to get off the island and into the USA for at least a year, so he’ll be playing in the DR. If that’s true, I can’t believe that he’ll be able to do anything there to make him the #1 prospect, since the level of competition is so low.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller inked

2.9 MM

http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/3367647243

by Kerm on Aug 17, 2025 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And down goes another slot-money domino

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by PaulThomas on Aug 17, 2025 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By all accounts I’ve read, Miller isn’t expected to be a fast riser through the system. Great velocity and arm strength, but a ways off with his command and secondary pitches.

by StickRat on Aug 17, 2025 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda

Bailey had better feel for his secondary pitches coming out of high school . . .hammer curve and a passable idea of a change for his age. Miller’s secondary stuff grades out a notch below that, but he does have the great arm strength. The other things can be taught, or so the idea goes . . .and sometimes, it really does work out that simply.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA doesn't really agree with that

They projected his curve to be plus and described his changeup as having potential. They also emphasized that the fastball didn’t just have velocity, but also movement and deception

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by OldProspects on Aug 17, 2025 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I find it hard to feel bad for owners who have been found guilty of collusion to keep salaries down and consistently shuffle their revenues to make it appear they are losing money.

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Aug 17, 2025 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

collusion

I’m sorry - when were they found guilty of collusion? Did I miss something?

by rmarx01 on Aug 17, 2025 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's happened more than once

A few times in the 80s, but none very recently I don’t think.

by thejd44 on Aug 17, 2025 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

….someone is either very young, or lived in a cave for 30 years or so…..

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by haverecords on Aug 17, 2025 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re

I was talking about recently - I assumed KBR was talking about the Barry Bonds ordeal, and I don’t think that was finalized as “guilty”

by rmarx01 on Aug 17, 2025 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Why would you assume I was talking about Barry Bonds when I stated “I find it hard to feel bad for owners who have been found guilty of collusion to keep salaries down and consistently shuffle their revenues to make it appear they are losing money.”? The Barry Bonds accusations have NOTHING to do with keeping salaries down.

Sometimes the best defense is just to admit when you are wrong (i.e. When I was wrong about Santana’s defense).

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Aug 17, 2025 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re

The last time I heard talk of collusion was when Barry was crying about it - that’s why I assumed that’s what you were talking about, and I didn’t think the teams were found guilty then. It had nothing to do with you saying “to keep salaries down”. That was because Barry’s an ass!

by rmarx01 on Aug 18, 2025 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Bonds filed a lawsuit, I really doubt it would have come to trial yet

Point is, there’s no way the teams could have been found liable (not “guilty”, it’s not a criminal offense) such a relatively short time after the events in question. The suit probably would have been filed late last year, which given the state of the California and federal courts would probably put the trial date at about early 2010.

That said, I don’t know if there WAS a complaint of collusion filed. If anyone knows, feel free to chime in.

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Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
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by PaulThomas on Aug 19, 2025 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 17, 2025 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

But the ill informed and uneducated need their pantomine villian so they can boo and hiss when he comes on stage

by DeJay on Aug 18, 2025 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Lefties

Word seems that Purke and Matzek might be a tough sign at this point.

by Dfarth on Aug 17, 2025 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Purke

I read that he went for a physical over the weekend so as to prevent any hold-ups to deadline talks. You’re hearing that he and TEX are still far apart?

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough to say

Apparently Keith Law said on Friday that the two sides were still far apart and I haven’t read anything that disputed that. Purke is a tough one because he can be draft eligible as a Sophomore - so, if he doesn’t sign, he’s only waiting two more years for a pay day. Having a quick career as a college baseball player is probably pretty appealing to a kid that age…

by Dfarth on Aug 17, 2025 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soph eligible

I didn’t know that about Purke at all. Very interesting. He has much more leverage than thought then. If his mechanics are as questionable as advertised it might be best to let him reassure/be exposed in college for two years anyway. I wouldn’t want to overpay for a guy with that sort of consensus.

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for that matter

I’m sure Purke and his people are aware of teams being concerned about possible serious injury . . .which is why I really think a deal will get done. Does he really want to take that much of a gamble?

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a gamble

I mean, how much do you pay for him if so many scouts imagine him ending up a bullpen arm?

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Who has said he is a bullpen arm?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2025 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Various scouts

are of the opinion that his mechanics will not allow hom to remain a starter without injury. Hence bullpen. I believe KLaw, for one among pundits, has also put this out there. I’ve only seen video, and I’m no expert, but the mechanics aren’t great. Just one potential outcome.

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keith Law is hardly a scouting guru

While Purke could end up in the bullpen, it’s hardly a forgone or even likely conclusion.

by deezle on Aug 17, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Law sources

Yeah, the part where I said one possible outcome probably means I don’t consider it a foregone conclusion either.
And I mention Law, who in this instance is really speaking for his scouting sources, as one of the more high profile folks proposing it based on the low 3/4 delivery Purke is sporting. Sorry the idea perturbs people so much. I’ll try to go make those nasty old scouts take it all back so you guys feel better. What exactly is at stake here? A bunch of scouts are wrong? Gee, that never happens.

And actually, Law knows a heck of a lot more about scouting than most pundits of his ilk.

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think too many people see him as a bullpen guy

Major injury risk, yes, bullpen guy, no. His overall repertoire is very solid for a prep pitcher, especially a lefty . . .you don’t turn those guys into relievers. More likely is that his mechanics get something between a tweaking and an overhaul.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tweak

I don’t think you tweak that arm angle. It’s an overhaul (with all the attendant risks), leave him alone and hope he stays healthy, or pull an Aumont due to a health consideration which develops post-draft. Bottom line, Purke is deemed a health risk. Forget the bullpen distraction. Do you pay a health risk Porcello money? Slice it any way you want but it still comes down to a lot of money for a strapped franchise to pay out to a guy with consensus issues.

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Callis answering questions

at BA’s draft blog:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1589

by gogotabata on Aug 17, 2025 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heathcott signed

$2.2 million . . .which is a HUGE pile of money for a guy in his draft position.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 11:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

waste...

i have seen heathcott play numerous times at all the various showcases here in arizona, including Team USA tryouts. I wasn’t impressed at all, and the kid seems like a cocky little asshole as well.

by ScottAZ on Aug 17, 2025 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your guess as to the first rounder most likely to not sign?

I’d go with Kyle Gibson. Sounds like the Twins won’t reach much for him in terms of going over slot, and Gibson wants to get paid some serious cash. I think this gulf is too wide to be breached. Did the Twins guess wrong by assuming that Gibson would give a discount? They had to have an idea of what kind of money he wanted.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that Gibson’s a good guess, but I’d say Matzek’s an even better one.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gibson

With Matzek, both sides know that he’s going to get a ton of money. There’s never been any doubt of that, it’s just a matter of how much we’re talking about. I think at the end of the day Matzek signs a deal that makes him the highest paid player among prep players this year, with incentives that can boost his contract’s value beyond that of Porcello’s deal. It’s an obvious and easy solution, but it means this deal is only going to get done after a few more pieces fall into place.

WIth Gibson, it’s a fundamental difference in philosophy. GIbson thinks he has top five level talent and wants to get paid accordingly. The Twins really don’t want to exceed slot in the first place, which leaves both sides somewhere in the area of a million dollars apart. Unless Gibson comes down significantly from his demands (and there’s no reason to think he will), I don’t think a deal is getting done.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In terms of Gibson

Of course we don’t know what he actually thinks, but I’m sure his agent understands that even if Gibson is a top-5 talent (which sounds reasonable to me), his health is going to force him to take a discount. I think if the Twins are smart, they’ll go somewhat over-slot this time to get a guy who could be worth much, much more than a #22 pick normally is

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by OldProspects on Aug 17, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

health

Gibson and his agent might think that his arm was a fluke injury that’s unlikely to reoccur, though. I’m not saying that they’re right or wrong, only that they might feel that way (and they might be justified, we don’t have enough information).

If he doesn’t sign, he can always head to indy ball, where his workload won’t be nearly as heavy. He’d go pretty high in next year’s draft as well and would probably be in line to make more money than he currently stands to receive.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We were both wrong

Both Gibson and Matzek signed. The correct answer was a) Matt Purke, or (b) Levon Washington.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 18, 2025 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gibson

Slot is $1.287 Mil and the Twins have yet to go over slot. I would guess Gibson is looking for in the neighborhood of 2.25-2.5 mil.
If the Twins don’t get it done, they will have let a potential ace go for less than what they paid Carl Pavano for the last 2 months of a season in which they probably won’t make the playoffs. That is not how to build from a farm system, that is just plain poor management.
They went over slot for Jeff Manship, who recently made his big league debut, in 2006, giving the 14th round pick a $500,000 bonus. Maybe the fact that going over slot has worked for them will make them realize it’s worth it for an elite talent.

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by garrioch13 on Aug 17, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got to agree with you. I don’t think around $2.5M is too much for Gibson. The only caveat would be if the Twins suspect his injury could be chronic due to a medical examination they had done. Otherwise, they’d be dumb to pass Gibson up. They’d be very unlikely to get somebody anywhere near as good with the #23 pick next year.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

But the Twins just don’t really go overslot. If anything, they like going UNDER slot. They did go over significantly to get Manship, but even that amount of cash would probably be only be like 40 percent of what the divide is between the Twins and Gibson. In other words, we’re not just talking about the Twins doing something that they rarely do . . .we’re talking about them doing something that they have NEVER done.

I’m sure they knew and still know that Gibson was going to cost them more than slot, but I’m guessing they thought something like $1.5-$1.7M would get the deal done . . .and Gibson wants at least half a million more than that (rumor has it at $2.5M, maybe he goes down a bit from there). It’s a massive difference, but frankly, if the team needs to cut some corners next year to get the deal done, I think they have to take the gamble and get Gibson signed.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they picked him

They must have known that they’d have to pay him to get him.

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by OldProspects on Aug 17, 2025 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure

I don’t think they thought they were going to have to give him double the slot money to sign him, though. The Gibson camp seems pretty firm on how much he’s worth . . .often you see serious concessions made in the last couple of days before the deadline, but it doesn’t look like we’re seeing that here. We’ll see.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To back up your point, we must remember that nobody knew if, or how quickly, his injury would heal when the Twins drafted him. So maybe they were gambling that he’d still be battling it by the time the deadline rolled around, and thus be likely to accept less money.

Still, I think that it would be very stupid (unless they know something more about his arm than we do) for the Twins to not spending the extra $500K to get the deal done. That’s such a small amount in the overall scheme of things, and the Twins draft so consistently high that they rarely get a chance to land a top 5 talent.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems being the operative term

I don’t really understand how these negotiations take place, but it strikes me as resembling a game of chicken.I don’t know how much we can really get from the reports of player or team demands

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by OldProspects on Aug 17, 2025 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

chicken? sometimes

Lots of different factors come into play . . .how much the team thinks the player is worth, how much the player likes his alternatives, how much money a team have left in its draft budget, what comparable players have gotten, etc. The waiting mostly comes from the last part of the equation.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

levon washigton not signing?

http://twitter.com/tborays/status/3364979362

by rdf8585 on Aug 17, 2025 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

[sings]

Levon… Levon likes his money… he wants a lot they say…

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by PaulThomas on Aug 17, 2025 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

washington

Looks like he wanted a lot more money than the Rays thought. Somewhat surprising as one of his best attributes as a potential first-rounder appeared to be his signability despite his representation.

I have to be honest, I really don’t see this guy being a major loss for the system.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not only that

but they supposedly aren’t signing Kenny Diekroeger either, according to Marc Lancaster (h/t mlbtr).

I guess that would set them up for a bangup 2010 draft with the extra picks.

by toonsterwu on Aug 17, 2025 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consequences

If the Rays are indeed not going to sign Washington or Diekroeger, will they attempt to sign someone like Austin Maddox with the extra cash?

by jar75 on Aug 17, 2025 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps

How much would it take, though? He’s an okay prospect but there are reasons why he dropped as far as he did. The Rays probably have an idea of how much they think he’s worth . . .would they go beyond that figure to get a deal done?

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the money will probably move somewhere. Maddox had a poor spring, but he does have a lot of power potential and a premier arm. Without their top two picks, I think that they probably will sign someone who they had originally written off. Whether that be Maddox, Floro, Dennis, et al. is yet to be seen.

by jar75 on Aug 17, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

Is it safe to say that the Rays sort of botched their draft this year?

by Slizeezyc on Aug 17, 2025 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

It’ll obviously hurt if they leave both 1 & 2 on the table and don’t get another way over slot guy, but they did sign some talented players. Luke Bailey for $750K is a bit of a steal, and I’d say he was the best player that they drafted. Malm, Glaesmann and James are good prospects. They also get both picks back next year, which will lessen the blow a bit.

by jar75 on Aug 17, 2025 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on Bailey

I think he was their best pick and he’s a great risk for that money. Not a Levon Washington fan either.

by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2025 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

They got top 2 round caliber players with Malm and Bailey. They also get comp picks and can get comparable players in next years draft. I like Washington and believe he will be a good ballplayer. He has great speed, a nice swing and looks like it comes easy to him.

The funny thing is he is not eligible to play next year for the Gators. He’ll be going to a JC or playing Indy ball. I think he over-played his hand.

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by garrioch13 on Aug 17, 2025 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Botched is too strong of word. They had a middle of the pack draft without signing their 1 and 2.

Problem is, they can’t afford to have middle of the pack drafts and sustain long term success. Not signing their first two picks is completely unacceptable.

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by Tyler on Aug 17, 2025 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they can survive doing so one year

If this becomes a trend then yes they are screwed. Its similar to the rangers and purke this year. If we don’t sign him it will hurt but not be crippling. We can kinda afford to go one year without a top draft pick without creating a huge hole in our farm system.

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by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2025 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They had the #30 pick

If they got a middle of the pack return, plus an extra 1st and 2nd round pick next year, that would be rather impressive. Considering they have a ton of young talent, both in the majors and minors, that would suggest that they have more, not less, room to maneuver.

Your argument assumes that the Rays don’t have enough money to keep the players that they currently have. It seems to me that they have two alternatives; one is to deal their stars for prospects before they become free agents. The second is that it’s possible that the owners will actually pay for their top players, either because he’s committed to having a strong team, or because Tampa fans will come to see a serious team

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by OldProspects on Aug 17, 2025 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have the utmost respect for Andrew Friedman and the front office.

I think they are easily one of the Top-3 front offices in all of baseball and firmly in the discussion for being the best, but this is still a mistake.

Next year they will have 4 picks in the first two rounds and that’s awesome, but there are limitations. There is no protection for either of the compensation picks, which means they have to sign that pick, making it more likely they’ll reach for a pick (a la Drew Storen) rather than taking the best player available. Perhaps they can get a player of Washington caliber at the end of the first round, but maybe not. However it’s highly unlikely they get someone as talented as Diekroeger.

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by Tyler on Aug 17, 2025 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the reason you think they had a middle-of-the-pack draft this year

I assume, at least, is because they still managed to sign some substantial talents. According to BA, they signed three of the top pre-draft 100 talents, and 5 of the top-200, without (effectively) using either their first or second round picks. That’s pretty impressive

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by OldProspects on Aug 17, 2025 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

other interesting note

gatorsports.com (via Baseball America) is reporting that Washington actually doesn’t meet the academic requirements to play at Florida next year.

This explains much.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Jacob Turner?

I haven’t heard much about him since the draft. The only thing I saw recently was speculation that he wanted $7-8M and the Tigers were balking. Anybody have an update?

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's in town for his physical

With Andrew Oliver and Joshua Fields (6th Round SS). Would not be surprised to see all three sign at the deadline.

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 17, 2025 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ANOTHER Josh Fields?

You can’t be serious.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Aug 17, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frick

Knew I got that wrong.

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 17, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stassi signs with a's

1.5 million
http://twitter.com/kingclip/status/3366756297

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by harendaman365 on Aug 17, 2025 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

from gammons
There are rumblings that the commissioner’s office wants to hold off the announcement of some of the bigger deals so they do not impact others. GMs say the Padres have had a $6.7 million deal with OF Donavan Tate done for five days. The Tigers reportedly have had RHP Jacob Turner done at $6.7 million, and second pick LHP Andrew Oliver done at $1 million. The Giants are very close at $3.4 million with RHP Zach Wheeler. The Yankees have signed OF Slade Heathcott. Oakland (USC SS Grant Green, 13th pick) and St. Louis (RHP Shelby Miller, the 19th pick) are considered locks to get done. There are conflicting reports on Colorado signing LHP Tyler Matzek, and Texas signing LHP Matt Purke (rumors had $4 million despite Tom Hicks’ bankruptcy). Cleveland and North Carolina RHP Alex White seemed deadlocked, but there was still time and the Indians could go to near $2 million. Tampa Bay and OF Levon Washington seemed far apart, as well.

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by flipgatey3 on Aug 17, 2025 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Callis vs Law

What about a basketball game with these two, not betting on much there.

by Slamdog on Aug 17, 2025 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tate

reportedly signed to a deal worth 6 million.

by MightyMoose on Aug 17, 2025 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tanner Scheppers?

Any word on Scheppers? I know the shoulder problem was diagnosed after the draft. Any updates on his situation and/or condition?

by StickRat on Aug 17, 2025 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since Scheppers played in an Indy League Last Year

He doesn’t have to sign today. Expectations are the Rangers will turn their attention to him after the rest of the picks are dealt with.

by Dfarth on Aug 17, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scheppers

I would think with the shoulder concerns, and the Rangers money problems, they will take their time and not sign him until late winter/early spring.

by Kerm on Aug 17, 2025 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kentrail Davis signs

Brewers agreed to terms with supplemental first-round pick Kentrail Davis.

Davis was handed a $1.2 million signing bonus, the highest sum of money given to a supplemental pick this year. He was selected 39th overall.

Little surprised the crew forked over that much.

by St.Steve on Aug 17, 2025 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This 22nd rounder

Got just about $1 million.

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by Baltimo on Aug 17, 2025 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer

by Baltimo on Aug 17, 2025 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dumb!

Kid has a huge velo jump from the previous year and blows his arm out not long after. they basically just bought a 1 million dollar lottery ticket. good luck with that

by GoldenSpikes24 on Aug 17, 2025 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me

Or is BA’s blog all of the sudden dry for over 2 hours?

by threesixteen on Aug 17, 2025 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably not much to report

Everybody probably decided to walk away from negotiations for a while to eat dinner and think things over.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A good day to be a Pirates fan......

Kind of weird post-92. Pirates have signed their picks that really matter. Anything left is gravy…… Actually Schoenfeld and Inman were gravy.

by haven on Aug 17, 2025 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess that would make Miguel Sano the cherry on top of the cake?

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely forgot about Sano

Yeah, Pirates fans would have to be stoked about that.

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by Orodawg on Aug 17, 2025 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jacob Turner signs

according to sources out of DEEtroit. 5.5 million plus incentives. Nicely done Tigers.

by MightyMoose on Aug 17, 2025 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly it’s a major league contract with a gauranteed $5.5M paid out over 6 years, and performance incentives that could take it all the way up to $7M.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a fan

I actually think the tigers screwed themselves by giving him a ML contract

by Jimothy on Aug 17, 2025 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See Also

Rick Porcello…

Probably not a wise move on the ML contract, but he has #1 stuff

by backtocali on Aug 18, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Padres announced they signed Tate over the PA at PetCo during the game

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tate

It’s being reported as $6.5M spread out over 4 years. They also signed Keyvius Sampson for $600,000.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 17, 2025 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orioles Signed Givens

Surprising.

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 17, 2025 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

wasn’t the late talk that they had broken things off. I think it’s a good signing. I think some places say he’s more athlete than baseball player right now, but he’s an up the middle guy, something the Orioles could really use.

by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Givens signs

$800,000

 . . .well, that was anti-climatic.

by mrkupe on Aug 17, 2025 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Well, O’s got a boost this year.

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Twins Sign Gibson

1.6 mil.

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Damn, Beat Me.

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Giants Get Wheeler

3.3

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 17, 2025 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TEN MINUTES TO SIGN GREEN

GOTTA get this done Billy.

Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
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by hero66 on Aug 17, 2025 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did BA Go Down?

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I think that, and MLBTR

Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst

by hero66 on Aug 17, 2025 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWO MINUTES TO SPARE!

GREEN SIGNS!

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by hero66 on Aug 17, 2025 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green signed

According to KTRB 680, Oakland.

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by Orodawg on Aug 17, 2025 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

860*

Deadline has come

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by hero66 on Aug 18, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for $2.75M at that

Now THAT is a spicy meatball

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Win.

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 18, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, you lost

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Aug 18, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goddamnit

I was looking forward to watching him pitch at UO

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by Orodawg on Aug 18, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

guess he got smart and realized that was a ton of money, even if it wasn’t his ’record setting" demands (what was it … 11 mil or something that he was demanding?)

by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

As a Pirate fan, what a bitter realization that is. As good as Tony Sanchez has been, is there any doubt that he was drastically overpaid? Tyler Matzek at $3.9M definitely could have been fit into the Pirates’ budget.

by jar75 on Aug 18, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I hear you on that, in principle. However if it had taken until 11:59 PM to finally know that Matzek would sign for $3.9 instead of the $11M or whatever else he was asking for, they may not have had time to make legit offers to Van Rosenberg and the rest of the HS crew they did sign.

by jibs on Aug 18, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see the point

But this is why you go best player available. Initial demands mean very little (wasn’t Alvarez demanding $11M+ last deadline?). Even if he couldn’t be talked down, that’s what compensation is for, and he left enough talent unsigned where it would have been easy to use the money elsewhere. I don’t think that there’s any question when you look at some of the signings (see: Grant Green for $2.75M) that Neal misread the market and overpaid for Tony Sanchez.

This doesn’t mean he’s a bad player, and I hope he continues to hit well.

by jar75 on Aug 18, 2025 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is an argument

That Green wouldn’t have signed for $2.75M if he was drafted No. 4 overall. Maybe he would’ve, but he would’ve had more leverage on his side.

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

He would have more leverage, but would he be any more willing to walk away from $2.75M simply because he was drafted higher? I find that hard to believe. The main point is that Tony Sanchez was chosen because Neal thought that his other options would be vastly more expensive (thus not worth financial commitment), but, outside of a handful of players, he seems to have predicted poorly.

by jar75 on Aug 18, 2025 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i feel the same way as a brave fan

could have had a legit prospect for a little more. fucking douche move

by son.of.sourman on Aug 18, 2025 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on the other hand

The Braves evidently feel that Minor is a “legit” prospect. They wouldn’t have drafted him otherwise. And they are those who think he’ll pitch better in pro ball.

Still, after having seen all the bonuses roll in, one thinks that they might have misread this a bit. Alex White could have been had for slot and we know the Braves liked him. Or they could have reached a little for a guy who was a better fit for their developmental program but still could have been had under slot. One guy who comes to mind is Madison Younginer, a guy from a southern state with excellent stuff but will need time.

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matzek Signs

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 18, 2025 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ackley signed

9.5M major league deal

by jibs on Aug 18, 2025 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

:O

Aaron Fitt reports Strasburg signs. MLB deal worth $15.67 million over 4 years.

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 18, 2025 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

not bad for the nats to hold at that point. early today, i really thought we were looking at 20+.

by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2025 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously, that's not terrible

Maybe we’ll be putting off a hard slotting system for a few more years.

by jdr on Aug 18, 2025 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the

winner from tonight was Stan Kasten. This ought to get him a lot of love from the league offices for holding fairly firm. He didn’t go crazy, started at 10, then 12, ended at 15. If the rumors are correct and he wants out from DC, he ought to be able to find a nice solid landing spot.

by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2025 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

You have to think that this will give him some leverage next year, assuming they draft Harper, as I can only imagine that his advisors would want to start with what Strasburg got.

by ajake57 on Aug 18, 2025 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah you lost

Its like everyones browser wants them to feel better about their user and puts up their comments first

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by CB30 on Aug 18, 2025 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strasburg signs

15 mil

Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst

by hero66 on Aug 18, 2025 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch for both parties

I think … granted, deep Rangers system and an extra pick next year, so there was some leverage

by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2025 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Purke may have signed

Saw a post that said he didn’t sign, but now Goldstein says that he may have. Probably best to just wait for confirmation.

by jibs on Aug 18, 2025 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Now Goldstein says he didn’t sign

by jibs on Aug 18, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

STARSBURG TO DC BABYYYYy

No typo.

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 18, 2025 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so ... off the top

is it only purke and levon washington from the first round that didn’t sign?

by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2025 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What about Crow?

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by hero66 on Aug 18, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He Gets Later Deadline

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by cwhitman412 on Aug 18, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's get Green/Stassi/Krol today.

 Imma happy man.

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by Syphon on Aug 18, 2025 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Think it gives up a top 5 - 10 draft easy

and without a 2nd rounder.

Got Green, Stassi, Krol, and Leyland.

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by hero66 on Aug 18, 2025 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roller would have been icing on the cake.

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"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.

by Orodawg on Aug 18, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am too

*dances

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"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.

by Orodawg on Aug 18, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay

Matzek signs
Purke does not
Jays lose Jake Barrett (OUCH) and Greek guy

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did Scheppers ever sign?

Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
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by hero66 on Aug 18, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matzek signing bonus

$3.9M . . .sounds like the Rockies called his bluff and won

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jake Marisnick

any word on him?

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by Savoy on Aug 18, 2025 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just glad

That Scott Boras decided to refrain from ruining the business of baseball forever tonight.

by jibs on Aug 18, 2025 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how dare he do his job....

the job that he is the best in the world at

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Aug 18, 2025 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damn him for representing his employers (the draftees) to the best of his ability.

How dare he get them what they wanted — signed with major-league teams for the best deals he could negotiate.

Almost all of his high draftees signed — I think the only one who didn’t was LeVon Washington with Tampa Bay, if reports are accurate.

by asinwreck on Aug 18, 2025 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really? that Strasburg deal is a killer

He got the Nationals to pay Strasburg serious money for his first few years while stopping them from buying out his arbitration years. That was an utterly amazing deal that Boras pulled off, maximizing his client’s future earnings potential while still getting him a massive bonus. THIS is a precedent-setting deal, and not one teams are going to like to see

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

will Strasburg become a FA after 4 years or will the Nats still have “team control” over him, while Strasburg will have Arbitration Rights? Basically including the 4 year contract how long will he be under team control?

by SouthAtlanticLeagueFan on Aug 18, 2025 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

explanation

He gets paid pro-rated league minimum for this year
Then he gets the remainder of that $15.whatever over the next 3 years
Then, because he does not have 6 full years of service time yet, he will not become a free agent
He is under the Nationals’ control for three years after that $15.whatever, but will be arbitration eligible

Really, the more you think about it, the more you realize that Boras just totally wrecked the Nationals in these negotiations. It’s not $50M, but it stands to be a TON of money, unheard of money for a guy on his initial contract out of the draft

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well....

that’s if he pitches and pitches well. That’s no certainty.

by loop on Aug 18, 2025 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I agree with you there

This is really only precedent setting for now in the scope of the bonus. Health and performance still need to be displayed before we can assume that the total value of his team-control years will be astronomically past any other players.

I mean, if Lincecum goes year-to-year in arbitration he could end up making some insane money. Say if Strasburg misses time with injury or just simply isn’t as effective as expected, Lince could make up the $13M difference in their bonuses over 3 arbitration years.

by jibs on Aug 18, 2025 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he's just an average pitcher

By the time he’s eligible for arbitration, he’s going to be getting at least $6-8M/year for each of those years.

If he pitches well and makes on average $10M for each of those years, he hits $45+M for the duration of the contract.

Sure, if he ends ups getting hurt he won’t make nearly as much as he would otherwise . . .but as long as he doesn’t get hurt, this deal looks good for him. It basically says “instead of making league minimum for my first three years, you’re paying me $5M/year” . . .which of course takes a good chunk of the cost efficiency of drafting a Strasburg (or any amateur pitcher) and throws it right out the window.

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Approximate surplus value of Stephen Strasburg after this contract

If he is worth an average of:

1 WAR a year (5th starter): $3.2M
2 WAR a year (4th starter): $22.1M
3 WAR a year (above-average): $41M
4 WAR a year (star): $59.9M
5 WAR a year (ace): $78.8M
6 WAR a year (perennial Cy Young candidate): $97.7M

I’d say the Nationals didn’t exactly “lose” with this contract. Keep in mind that the above figures have already subtracted out Strasburg’s signing bonus and an approximation of his expected salaries in arbitration.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 18, 2025 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lose, no

However, it’s definitely a concession of a lot of the value inherent in a cost-controlled drafted player, to an extent that we have not seen before.

It’s clearly not a bad deal for the team - if it was, they wouldn’t have given it to him. But if Strasburg is anything like the pitcher that he’s expected to be, the value of this contract is going to be massive.

by mrkupe on Aug 18, 2025 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, that's where I think you're wrong

I think Strasburg’s average level of performance is over 2 WAR a season. That’s including injuries, flameouts, etc in the possible outcomes.

Even at the 2 WAR level, he’s getting paid only like 40% of his surplus value. That’s basically par for the course.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 19, 2025 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah no

First off, we don’t have the details yet. Most contracts have split rates for the majors and the minors, although sometimes the rates are the same.

Second off, unless Strasburg literally goes straight into the Nats’ rotation and is never sent down, the contract will probably expire while he’s still under the reserve clause, resulting in him getting minimal money for another season (probably a nominal raise from whatever the previous year’s salary was).

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by PaulThomas on Aug 18, 2025 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is it any different to giving him a straight $15m bonus?

With Boras as his advisor the Nats were never going to be able to buy out his arbitration years down the road anyway. Considering it is generally thought that Strasburg could step into a MLB rotation tomorrowI don’t see how this is any different to giving him a lump sum at the beginning and paying him the major league minimum, expect that this way the bonus has less real time value.

by DeJay on Aug 18, 2025 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because what you make in arbitration is based on what you made the previous season

So if someone goes into the first year of arbitration but already got paid like they were in the first year of arbitration, then their pay scale will look like the second year of arbitration even though he’s in the first year of it.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 18, 2025 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

Hadn’t considered that. But if all goes to plan Strasburg would probably expect to earn more than the $7.5m value of the major league contract in his first year of arbitration.

by DeJay on Aug 18, 2025 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And because a player's salary can't drop to less than 80% of the previous year in arbitration

it means that Strasburg will be getting good money right out of the gate in arbitration, even if he completely sucks.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 18, 2025 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

With $15M already to his name, there’s little reason for Strasburg to not go year-to-year on his re-ups, which is almost definitely the way to maximize his salary.

Good job by the Nats to get him signed, but he’s going to be getting paid something close to what he’s worth very soon.

by mraver on Aug 18, 2025 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who didn't sign?

I’ve heard Purke, Paxton and Barrett - are those confirmed?

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by OldProspects on Aug 18, 2025 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woot

With the A’s signing Krol and Green at the deadline, my Royals shadow draft has everybody signed through the 10th round and 18 of the first 20 rounds.

1. Grant Green SS Oak
3. Wil Myers C KC
4. Jeremy Hazelbaker OF Bos
5. Ryan Schimpf 2B Tor
6. Khris Davis OF Mil
7. Ian Krol LHP Oak
8. Gavin Brooks LHP NYY
9. Tyson Van Winkle C Az
10. Jeremy Barnes SS Phi

Anybody know if Matt Thomson signed with the Tigers? I know they had a lot going on.

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by JM Barten on Aug 18, 2025 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My picks for the Sickels mock draft look pretty good right about now.

14. Chad James.
44. Jared Mitchell
62. Zack Von Rosenberg
93. Billy Bullock

by Andy Seiler on Aug 18, 2025 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like mine as well

4. Tyler Matzek - $3.9M
49. Marc Krauss - $550K
53. Luke Bailey - $750K
84. Chris Dominguez - $411.3K

That’s a lot less money than I expected to pay.

by jar75 on Aug 18, 2025 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My picks for the Sickels mock draft look pretty good right about now.

14. Chad James.
44. Jared Mitchell
62. Zack Von Rosenberg
93. Billy Bullock

by Andy Seiler on Aug 18, 2025 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

krol getting late 1st rd $ 925,000?

seems like an overpay by a couple hundred thousand

by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 18, 2025 2:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but it's only a couple hundred thousand

So whatever. That couple hundred thousand probably came from all the deadline-salary-shedding-savings anyway.

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by walk off bunt on Aug 18, 2025 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

After trading Holliday and Cabrera, and dumping Springer the A’s had some money to play with. Does seem like a slight over pay but if that is what it took to get it done then so be it.

by DeJay on Aug 18, 2025 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not my money

Don’t care.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Aug 19, 2025 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan M. Schimpf

He’s a sixth round pick: not listed as signed, but who is the second baseman playing for the Doubledays and rookie team for the last 17 games?

by bankertuck on Aug 18, 2025 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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