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First Day Winners and Losers of the 2009 MLB Draft



Who does everyone consider the biggest winners and losers from Day 1 of the draft?

 

 

Right now my 4 "winners" are:

Nationals- Hard to have a bad draft when you draft Strasburg.

Colorado- Matzek and Wheeler in the First Round, Brothers in the Supplemental... NICE, but be ready to break out the checkbook for Matzek. Even is MAtzek doesn't sign, Brothers and Wheeler are a nice first day.

Texas- Purke and Scheppers. Going to be another expensive draft for Texas.

Toronto- Good mix of youth, signability and college players with upside. Best draft out of the teams not going to have to break the bank.

 

"Losers" are harder to determine.

 

Phillies first selection seemed to be a major reach...

Pitt is well Pitt... Sanchez? If you are going to waste the #4 pick, atleast shoot for mid round talent not late round talent

 

Needless to say, If you don't like my "Winners and Losers" then defend your team and tell us why and give your own "Winner and Losers" instead. A little bit of friendly draft chatter is always welcome.

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Mariners

Hard not to love the Mariners draft so far.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2025 11:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kind of thought the Mariners reached at 27.

by WrenFGun on Jun 10, 2025 11:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

Ackley’s going to be pricey, and they had a 1S pick as well…I’m guessing money was a factor.

I really don’t like what Houston’s doing so far…Mier at 21 is iffy

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by rswanzey on Jun 10, 2025 11:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a fan of Barron at 33

Meh on Franklin at 27, solid nothing spectacular

Love Pythress at 51, Seager at 53 and that Ackley guy at #2. Hard to miss when you get the best postion player in the draft.

I would give them a solid B+ and depending on their second day a chance to be an “A” draft

by laxtonto on Jun 10, 2025 11:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rangers

How can they not be favorite? You get two guys rated top 10 at the #14 and #44 spots.

Colorado also had a great draft.

by Coolbean04 on Jun 10, 2025 11:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Texas

the first two picks get the buzz, but I really liked Mendonca and Erlin. Mendonca K’s a bit more than I would like and his power numbers are a bit inflated, but Texas is a hitter’s paradise and he has the glove to stay at third. Erlin is a bit undersized, but I really like his potential

by mtk52983 on Jun 10, 2025 11:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some winners and losers

Winners:

Blue Jays - Really nice blend of talent. Jenkins is a safe pick, Paxton brings upside with his power arm, and Barrett is a personal favorite. If everybody signs then this is about as good as it gets for a team without a massive budget and a mid-first round pick.

Twins - Lots of great arms. I’m still confused how these guys managed to get this much talent without a bunch of picks.

Kansas City - How can we not have them in the winners column? Myers will be expensive, but given that they only had two first day picks I’m guessing that the budget includes plenty of breathing room for a guy that they really like. They didn’t like passing Crow last year and they should have a deal done easily with him this year. They just had a field day despite having only two picks . . .now that’s how you get things done.

In the middle:

White Sox - Tons of good talent, but some questions. Thompson and Holmberg (especially) will be expensive. Phegley’s bat is sweet and I’m guessing they’ll give him every opportunity in the world to stick at C, but we’ll see if that works.

Dodgers - Loved the Garrett Gould pick. The rest of the guys I’m eh on.

Losers:

Indians, although not for the talent But if the rumors are true that they’re immediately converting Alex White into a reliever and are thinking of turning Jason Kipnis into a second baseman . . .ugh. I think I liked it better when they were calling these guys Adam Miller and Trevor Crowe.

Cubs - Brett Jackson is a tough guy to bet your draft on. LeMahieu is a respectable pick. Kirk was an overdraft as an easy sign . . .maybe the Cubs have a couple of signability targets in mind for today? But for now, not too impressed.

by mrkupe on Jun 10, 2025 11:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed on all

also think the Tigers did a good job.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 10, 2025 11:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know about that

I don’t really like the Oliver pick- we don’t need more relievers.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jun 10, 2025 11:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Relievers

Nonsense. Everyone always needs more relievers. It’s not like the Tigers have the best bullpen in baseball.

by SBcaptain2 on Jun 10, 2025 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't draft them

Certainly not with a second round pick when your farm system is devastated. You convert starters that aren’t going to make it. We’re paying premium money for a guy who could be a good closer or setup guy, but that’s his best case scenario.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jun 11, 2025 12:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oliver

Oliver has had a decent breaking ball in the past. It’s not absurd to think he can regain his feel for it. He should get a chance to develop as a starter.

by SBcaptain2 on Jun 11, 2025 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tigers

Outside of Casey Crosby who is beng groomed as a starter, I can’t think of another lefty that can come out of the bullpen throwing as hard as Oliver. Fu-Ti Ni is a situational lefty, without Oliver’s hard stuff. Oliver could be a better version of Seay with or without a curve. Oliver has enough movement on the fastball. With Matlack as the minor league pitching coordinator when he signs they should find out soon what the best options are for him.

by KalineCountry on Jun 15, 2025 3:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im tempted to list the Yankees as "Losers"

Seemed like they cheaped it. Not impressed at all with their draft. Read somewhere that they put the scouting staff on a budget for the draft this year.

by alskor on Jun 10, 2025 4:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Biggest Loser:

MLB Network. What awful coverage. And the draft tracker went down on MLB.com. FAIL

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 10, 2025 11:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1000

they liked EVERY pick lol..and the scouting reports were so off it was laughable.

by jsmall404 on Jun 10, 2025 11:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I liked the idea

Actual scouting reports with grades for attributes was a nice touch, and obviously a lot of people agree to disagree (often significantly so) on these things. But some of this stuff was pretty nuts . . .how can they say that Shelby Miller basically has no changeup and then give him a 40 grade at present on it?

by mrkupe on Jun 10, 2025 11:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right

or that brett jackson is a 5 tool player whe he hasnt hit more than 10 HR and stolen 10 bases in any one year as a college player haha

by jsmall404 on Jun 10, 2025 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I liked that at least 8-9 players were

“THE BEST PLAYER IN THIS DRAFT”

Except Strasburg. They probably criticized him more than anyone.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 10, 2025 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw c'mon now.

Drunk Bud is always good for 3 hours worth of chuckles.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 11, 2025 2:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Braves

I am surprised more people arent hammering the Braves for taking Minor.

Am I just mad that we didnt a higher upside players? From outsiders looking in, isnt Minor a terrible pick for us?

by jsmall404 on Jun 10, 2025 11:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's hard to look terrible...

…right after the Pirates reaching for Sanchez like that.

by Vlad on Jun 10, 2025 11:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

I almost feel the Braves reached just as bad! Both of those guys were back end of the 1st round/supp guys.

by jsmall404 on Jun 10, 2025 11:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not impressed

Is there a big budget crunch in Atlanta these days? I was totally shocked. That’s not to say Minor is a bad pitcher, just not somebody I’d draft in the top 10. One of the available prep pitchers would have been the stereotypical Braves pick, imho.

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by Lyle on Jun 10, 2025 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope, it sucked

Hale was an interesting later pick . . .but he might not be an easy sign.

by mrkupe on Jun 10, 2025 11:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

goldstein on minor pick
The Braves take Minor. It’s indefensible. You don’t want to take a high school kid, that’s cool. You think he’s better than Alex White, who I’m not even that high on, and you’re nuts.

Number 7 picks who profile as No. 4 starters make no sense.

everyone’s right, it was a terrible choice. i don’t get this save a couple million on the draft but overpay much more for free agents mentality

by son.of.sourman on Jun 10, 2025 12:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Braves had Minor in their top 5, so I don't care what the media thinks...

The Braves are kinda good at the whole scouting thing…

Guy #1: Damn, these oysters are going to make us horny as hell...
Girl #2: Oh yeah, I forgot oysters are hermaphrodites.

by bwellnjonesco on Jun 10, 2025 1:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The point is

Clark apparently really really likes Minor, so it may not be the case of a money driven choice like it seems on first blush. Not saying I buy that necessarily, but that’s the word on the street.

by aCone419 on Jun 10, 2025 2:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

What do you think Clark is gonna say “I wasnt given the money to sign someone who was actually worth the 7th pick” lol

Come on, we all know he wasnt the 7th more talented kid in the draft.

And I dont like the whole “well the braves know what they are doing” arguement.

Mccann and Chipper are the only all star Caliber players we have produced in a LONG TIME…jury is still out on Hanson obviously.

by jsmall404 on Jun 10, 2025 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree

and further, the braves know what they’re doing, so this pick is a good one is not exactly a logical argument. especially when the consensus among all of the experts and writers is that minor was not even close to the best guy available at that spot.

in reality, it’s the economy and the owners and unwilling to pay a little more this year. we saw that all over the first round. but i think it’s stupid because overall it’s not a big difference in money, especially when a weak farm system leads teams to pay excessive amounts for free agents.

by son.of.sourman on Jun 10, 2025 3:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look

I am not saying I know this to be the case or that it means the pick will work out splendidly or objectively “correct,” but Clark walks to the beat of his own drummer. It’s not inconceivable that he actually just really loved Mike Minor.

by aCone419 on Jun 11, 2025 9:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was before the season!

Since then we have lost Hernandez(#4) and Locke(#7) also Tyler Flowers was traded, Hanson, Medlen and Schafer will all lose there prospect status so our system is definitely not Top 5 anymore and with this draft it won’t get any better.

by Jay212033 on Jun 10, 2025 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was saying that Mike Minor was one of the top 5 guys on Atlanta’s drafting board.

Guy #1: Damn, these oysters are going to make us horny as hell...
Girl #2: Oh yeah, I forgot oysters are hermaphrodites.

by bwellnjonesco on Jun 11, 2025 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This draft

has been horrible for the Braves! A soft tossing LHP with the #7 pick WOW! With only 1 pick in the 1st 3 rounds they should have at least been able to spend a little more and got a guy with more upside. All I see is Chuck James 2.0! I know many of you are going to say let the guy pitch professionally first nut a 3.53 career ERA just makes me want to puke!

by Jay212033 on Jun 10, 2025 2:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also

People keep saying trust in Roy Clark but many of his 1st Rd pks since 1991 have not turned out so well:

  2008… Brett DeVall, LHP… 40, He’s doing well so far in the Minors
  2007… Jason Heyward, OF… 14, Could be a great one, injury prone
  2006… John Johnson, OF… 24, K Prone
  2005… NONE —
  2004… NONE —
  2003… Luis Atilano, rhp 35
  2002… Jeff Francoeur, of … 23
  2001… Joseph McBride, lhp… 24
  2001… Joshua Burrus, ss… 29
  2000… Adam Wainwright, rhp… 29, One of the best 1st Rd pk since 91 but not with the Braves now
  2000… Scott R Thorman, 3b… 30
  1999… NONE —
  1998… NONE —
  1997… Troy Cameron, ss … 29
  1996… A.J. Zapp, 1b… 27
  1996… Jason Marquis, rhp… 35
  1995 … Chad Hutchinson, rhp… 26
  1994 … Jacob Shumate, rhp… 27
  1993… NONE —
  1992… Jamie Arnold, rhp… 21
  1991… Mike Kelly, of… 2

by Jay212033 on Jun 10, 2025 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

....

Roy Clark has only been the scouting director since 2000.

by aCone419 on Jun 11, 2025 9:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and he still plays

a pretty mean banjo.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 13, 2025 1:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can’t judge a draft’s success by the first round picks.

Guy #1: Damn, these oysters are going to make us horny as hell...
Girl #2: Oh yeah, I forgot oysters are hermaphrodites.

by bwellnjonesco on Jun 11, 2025 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any thoughts on grant green?

i wouldve taken leake or matzek, but he seemed to be the BPA at that point.
wasnt too thrilled w/ justin marks but chosen right around where most mocks/ranking projeted him to go.
 If chris dominguez fell to 92 that wouldve been ideal, damn giants lol.

where do you think SS ryan jackson goes today?

by Asfan4ever723 on Jun 10, 2025 11:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At this point

I’m beginning to wonder if Jackson just doesn’t go back to Miami for his senior year. He really couldn’t hit worse than he did this year, which means his stock won’t drop, and he could probably improve it a lot by being at least a passable hitter. He’d be very attractive to teams in the first couple of rounds next year as a senior sign who provides a lot of value with his glove.

by mrkupe on Jun 10, 2025 11:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point

He really should go back for his senior year.

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by Lyle on Jun 10, 2025 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think the Astros are losers, but...

they certainly aren’t winners. This draft doesn’t inspire me like last years, that’s for sure. Mier is a solid, not spectacular pick. Had he gone to the Twins at 22, no one would have fussed about it. He’s a HS SS in the last third of the first round with good upside, that’s not a bad pick. The more I learn about Bushue, the more I like him. He’ll fit right in with Jordan Lyles and Ross Seaton, he’s below them right now, though, of course. I don’t like the Telvin Nash pick. Seriously, he was the top guy on their board there? However, I also like Meyer. He fits in with Nick Arenado, could sit behind the plate or play third base well… he could be tested as a shortstop… maybe.

by byronlhsdrmr on Jun 10, 2025 11:43 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't see the big fuss over Mier

He didn’t seem like a first rounder to me, although many had him going in the first round.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 10, 2025 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His bat is better...

and with added strength he’ll develop power. Bobby Heck said he thought Mier was the “best baseball player” in the draft. I have seen some conflicting reports about his speed some say below average with plus instincts (mlb), while others (PG) says he is an above-average runner.

by byronlhsdrmr on Jun 11, 2025 12:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah it should be.

What I was saying is that even if it doesn’t develop like the Astros hope, if his glove is as good as advertised, he doesn’t have to hit to be worth the pick.

Tools Whore

by Tyler on Jun 11, 2025 12:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Royals have to be an option

Came away with two 1st round-caliber picks with Crow and Wil Myers, and Crow was very good value at 12 considering where most publications had him ranked (usually around 6th or 7th overall). Definitely like them better than Toronto.

by deezle on Jun 10, 2025 11:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Winners and Losers

After day 2, I have to say I really like the Rays draft. They went upside on day 1, then backfilled with C Luke Bailey (rd. 4) and 1B Jeffrey Malm (rd. 5) on day 2, both of whom were talked about as potential 1st/2nd rounders. They even found quality guys in round 9 (Kevin James) and 11 (Alex Koronis, whom JS took in his shadow Twins draft).

Biggest losers to me look like my hometown Orioles — they way overdrafted for Hobgoblin at 5, and kept taking mediocre pitching all day today. The only picks I like on that board are Mychal Givens in the 2nd and Rice ace righty Ryan Berry in the 9th. I can see this entire draft being a bust for them.

by AndrewTorrez on Jun 10, 2025 5:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know I'll sound like a homer...(which I am)

Because the O’s are my team. But I LOVE their draft so far. While Hobgood was said to be a reach by guys like Law, point is that he still has big upside and is less expensive. He’s got all the intangibles, he’s got a mean streak (a real bulldog) and the difference between him and a guy like Matzek isn’t big enough to warrant all that extra money.

Givens to me was a good pick.

The pitchers they took are all high risk- high reward guys. Guys who were great two seasons ago (Henry), and then for whatever reason didn’t do well last year.

As an O’s fan, I’ve read all of the analysis on their first 10 picks, and I LOVE 9/10 of them

by maneatingbaby on Jun 10, 2025 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From an outsider’s perspective, I was pretty meh on the Orioles draft. Hobgood was a shockingly bad pick, imho. (Not as bad as the Pirates, but pretty close). Ryan Berry was a brilliant selection in the 9th round. Henry and Tolliver seem like reaches to me.

I’d have rolled the dice on Matzek, if I ran the Orioles. But then, I don’t have to live with the consequences of not signing him.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 10, 2025 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But what the hell would the excuse be for not signing him?

Not enough revenue? Saving up for Tex? We have the money. . .

I think Jordan saw Hobgood as a high upside guy with tremendous character, and although maybe not as good of an arm as Matzek or Wheeler, taking a comparable pitcher would be well worth it as we’d avoid drawn out negotiations, save some money and eliminate the possible risk of losing a player.

I’m not buying the over-slot argument as the first two days are now over, and the O’s shouldn’t have to overpay for many of their selections. I disagree with the philosophy, but whatever.

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by Baltimo on Jun 11, 2025 3:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But what the hell would the excuse be for not signing him?

Not enough revenue? Saving up for Tex? We have the money. . .

I think Jordan saw Hobgood as a high upside guy with tremendous character, and although maybe not as good of an arm as Matzek or Wheeler, taking a comparable pitcher would be well worth it as we’d avoid drawn out negotiations, save some money and eliminate the possible risk of losing a player.

I’m not buying the over-slot argument as the first two days are now over, and the O’s shouldn’t have to overpay for many of their selections. I disagree with the philosophy, but whatever.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 11, 2025 3:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cardinals

The Cardinals weren’t the biggest winners but they were winners. Getting Shelby Miller was an absolutely fantastic pick. He is everything their farm system is missing.

Then I think they got a guy who could be a middle of the rotation starter down the road in Robert Stock. Stock will start at catcher first but he has the stuff to be a pretty good starter.

Joe Kelly was a signability pick.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 11, 2025 11:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Kelly was an excellent pick. He and Miller make the draft for the Cardinals. I think you’ll get more value from Kelly than from Stock, who, I agree, will be pitching within 2 years - just not all that well.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 12, 2025 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kelly and Stock

Kelly has a long way to go to be a useful reliever.

I saw Stock pitch against Cal and for a 19 year old, he looked damn good. Ran his fastball up to 95 with an above average change and effective curve.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 14, 2025 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs


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